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2012-08-26 03:33:03 PM

eddiesocket:
Riiight. Nothing says "personal use" like 18 plants and 12 baggies with 2 grand in cash lying around.
In addition, they were growing it in the kid's room.
So we've got two upstanding citizens, dealing drugs out of their children's room and you compare that to drinking wine with dinner. I'm really hoping you're not a parent.


Never underestimated the ability of potheads to rationalise things away. 'Cos it's harmless, see?
 
2012-08-26 03:33:30 PM

nanim: /can't imagine any kid wanting to live in an overly-lit, smelly, noisy-fan basement either


Drug ops aside, teenage boys farking love living in basements. So very cave like. Not to mention it's way easier to get away with having your girlfriend over late if you live down there.

/why yes, my high school boyfriend DID live in his parents basement despite having a perfectly acceptable upstairs bedroom available.
 
2012-08-26 03:34:16 PM
That'll teach Dad to steal bacon of of Junior's plate.
 
2012-08-26 03:36:17 PM

Witness99: eddiesocket: Witness99: eddiesocket: They weren't just growing pot for their own use. They were high-level dealers, who probably let all sorts of shady characters in that house. No doubt the kid felt unsafe. He made the right call. Pretty much as a rule, if your own child feels compelled to call the cops on you for any reason, you've failed as a parent.

Let's see, we have two college educated, professional, six figure income citizens who grow enough pot for personal use (comparable to those who have a couple glasses of wine at night). No priors, not a burden on society, providing for what was it...5 kids between the two of them?

And you think they have "shady characters" traipsing through the house, or even more laughable that kids can distinguish when the authorities should be involved? In this particular case, dumb, disgruntled teen took out his revenge against what probably is a privileged upbringing, in a way that will have repercussions continue to come long after he matures and gains sophistication of how the world works.

Riiight. Nothing says "personal use" like 18 plants and 12 baggies with 2 grand in cash lying around.
In addition, they were growing it in the kid's room.
So we've got two upstanding citizens, dealing drugs out of their children's room and you compare that to drinking wine with dinner. I'm really hoping you're not a parent.

And I don't think having 2K cash in the house can be automatically assumed "drug money" for this particular couple.


------

... or for ANY family that isn't a bunch of minimum-wagers. I probably have 2 grand under the couch cushions.
 
2012-08-26 03:38:08 PM
Discovering one has a rat in one's midst is typically expensive and often heartbreaking. No need to fret. Toss the kid in the marines, there he can indulge his authoritarian fetishes without qualm nor limit.
 
2012-08-26 03:50:56 PM

lewismarktwo: eddiesocket: Witness99: eddiesocket: Witness99: eddiesocket: They weren't just growing pot for their own use. They were high-level dealers, who probably let all sorts of shady characters in that house. No doubt the kid felt unsafe. He made the right call. Pretty much as a rule, if your own child feels compelled to call the cops on you for any reason, you've failed as a parent.

Let's see, we have two college educated, professional, six figure income citizens who grow enough pot for personal use (comparable to those who have a couple glasses of wine at night). No priors, not a burden on society, providing for what was it...5 kids between the two of them?

And you think they have "shady characters" traipsing through the house, or even more laughable that kids can distinguish when the authorities should be involved? In this particular case, dumb, disgruntled teen took out his revenge against what probably is a privileged upbringing, in a way that will have repercussions continue to come long after he matures and gains sophistication of how the world works.

Riiight. Nothing says "personal use" like 18 plants and 12 baggies with 2 grand in cash lying around.
In addition, they were growing it in the kid's room.
So we've got two upstanding citizens, dealing drugs out of their children's room and you compare that to drinking wine with dinner. I'm really hoping you're not a parent.

And I don't think having 2K cash in the house can be automatically assumed "drug money" for this particular couple.

When I smoke pot for personal use, I like to keep it in 12 separate baggies and ten separate containers.

So you just mix all your beer and liquor together in one container? That's pretty efficient.


Sigh. No facepalm big enough for that profoundly pathetic false equivalency.
 
2012-08-26 03:54:46 PM
To a cop, busting people for dope is better than sex. If they tell you any different they are lying SOBs.
They know that pot is harmless, (any intelligent person realizes this) but causing the grief gives then their jollies.
Fark 'em.
 
2012-08-26 03:56:35 PM

AbbeySomeone: WTFDYW: jst3p: eddiesocket: They weren't just growing pot for their own use. They were high-level dealers, who probably let all sorts of shady characters in that house. No doubt the kid felt unsafe. He made the right call. Pretty much as a rule, if your own child feels compelled to call the cops on you for any reason, you've failed as a parent.

Want to know how I know you have no idea what you are talking about?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  
THIS

Dumbassery or high trollin'?

The little bastard that phoned them in should be left in 'protective care' until his 18th birthday.
Child endangerment charges are BS unless they had faulty wiring in the grow room and a fire was possible. They would need the extra income that the weed brought just to support all those kids.


Do you realize we are in agreement?
 
2012-08-26 04:02:11 PM

MBooda: At first I was smoking my home-grown ganj, and I was all...

...but then my teen narked me out, and I was all...


Dad. Looks. Pissed.
 
2012-08-26 04:05:10 PM

gambitsgirl: MBooda: At first I was smoking my home-grown ganj, and I was all...

...but then my teen narked me out, and I was all...

Dad. Looks. Pissed.


Nice to see you GG. Haven't seen you post for a long time. Hope you are doing splendidly.
 
2012-08-26 04:18:31 PM
Enjoy foster care, Alex P. Keaton.
 
2012-08-26 04:22:44 PM

WTFDYW: gambitsgirl: MBooda: At first I was smoking my home-grown ganj, and I was all...

...but then my teen narked me out, and I was all...

Dad. Looks. Pissed.

Nice to see you GG. Haven't seen you post for a long time. Hope you are doing splendidly.


Hi, you. Other than totally hating being out in the world that has a sun in it I'm pretty ok :).

Son is sick so I'm stuck inside and thought I'd catch some headlines.

How's it been? Did I miss anything in the past year? Lol.
 
2012-08-26 04:25:08 PM
Oh dear I'm not as unclean as I was 5 minutes ago. THANK YOU dolphkhan!!!!
 
2012-08-26 04:33:54 PM
dolphkhan? dolphkhandolphkhandolphkhan? can you see me in here? *echos*
 
2012-08-26 04:35:40 PM
Yeah, I probably would've done it too. Pot smells like absolute ass; I don't want my house (let alone the place where I sleep) smelling like pot. Vote in someone who'll change the law, or get over it.
 
2012-08-26 04:36:02 PM
I'm betting on the kid ending up in the nastiest military school money can buy until his ass turns 18. That's what I'd do - only because I don't think in an orphange he'd get the full range of suffering the little shiat really deserves.

And I'd make sure it was run by this guy.

www.timothysexton.com
 
2012-08-26 04:36:40 PM
Lotta hate for the kid.

So tell me, then.

What the hell was he supposed to do? Keep quiet and pray he didn't get charged as an accessory, shot by rival drug-dealers, or get busted because he got so much as a weed leaf on his shoes?

Face it. The kid was in a catch-22. He didn't make the right decision because there was no right decision.
 
2012-08-26 04:41:25 PM
Pot growing parent "Son your grades suck, I'm taking away the Xbox."
Kid "Pot"
Pot growing parent "Here's your Xbox"
 
2012-08-26 04:43:38 PM

Ed Finnerty: Son. Your mother and I are, like, really disappointed, man.


www.channel4.com

We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas.
 
2012-08-26 04:53:28 PM

MrGiggles: Lotta hate for the kid.

So tell me, then.

What the hell was he supposed to do? Keep quiet and pray he didn't get charged as an accessory, shot by rival drug-dealers, or get busted because he got so much as a weed leaf on his shoes?

Face it. The kid was in a catch-22. He didn't make the right decision because there was no right decision.


the right decision is to join the family business. loyalty is more important than self-preservation. 

/something about getting fed from a bitten hand..
 
2012-08-26 04:54:13 PM

gopher321: Yeah, that sounds like it wasn't just a home grow for their own consumption - who cares about that? Sounds more like they were dealing. Maybe the kid was scared some local punks would show up at their doorstep at 2am with a shotgun.


Or he was pissed at them for taking away his Xbox. Whichever.


When the cops say, "18 plants", what that means is 3 flowering plants, 3 immature plants that aren't large enough for flowering yet, and a dozen little seedlings in a sprouting tray. Based on my own research, theirs sounds like a typical set-up for home consumption. You have to keep multiple plants at every stage because plants fail sometimes. Even when fully mature, Indoor growing produces much smaller plants than outdoors. The outdoor plants I used to encounter as a young man in Kentucky would be 8 feet tall, but the pics I see of indoor grows look more like shrubs, harvested at anywhere from 2' to 5' tall, depending on the breed.

/Not legal here yet, so still wasting money buying mine. Maybe soon, though.
 
2012-08-26 04:59:12 PM

lewismarktwo: eddiesocket: Witness99: eddiesocket: Witness99: eddiesocket: They weren't just growing pot for their own use. They were high-level dealers, who probably let all sorts of shady characters in that house. No doubt the kid felt unsafe. He made the right call. Pretty much as a rule, if your own child feels compelled to call the cops on you for any reason, you've failed as a parent.

Let's see, we have two college educated, professional, six figure income citizens who grow enough pot for personal use (comparable to those who have a couple glasses of wine at night). No priors, not a burden on society, providing for what was it...5 kids between the two of them?

And you think they have "shady characters" traipsing through the house, or even more laughable that kids can distinguish when the authorities should be involved? In this particular case, dumb, disgruntled teen took out his revenge against what probably is a privileged upbringing, in a way that will have repercussions continue to come long after he matures and gains sophistication of how the world works.

Riiight. Nothing says "personal use" like 18 plants and 12 baggies with 2 grand in cash lying around.
In addition, they were growing it in the kid's room.
So we've got two upstanding citizens, dealing drugs out of their children's room and you compare that to drinking wine with dinner. I'm really hoping you're not a parent.

And I don't think having 2K cash in the house can be automatically assumed "drug money" for this particular couple.

When I smoke pot for personal use, I like to keep it in 12 separate baggies and ten separate containers.

So you just mix all your beer and liquor together in one container? That's pretty efficient.


POT LEGAL 12 SEPARATE BABBIES WOULD BE FINE.
BUT *ILLEGAL* MEANS YOU SHOULD ACT LIKE A CRIMINAL AND ONLY BUY A NUG AT A TIME. AND ONLY SMOKE IN THE BATHROOM WITH THE WINDOWS SHUT
 
2012-08-26 05:07:34 PM

eddiesocket: lewismarktwo: eddiesocket: Witness99: eddiesocket: Witness99: eddiesocket: They weren't just growing pot for their own use. They were high-level dealers, who probably let all sorts of shady characters in that house. No doubt the kid felt unsafe. He made the right call. Pretty much as a rule, if your own child feels compelled to call the cops on you for any reason, you've failed as a parent.

Let's see, we have two college educated, professional, six figure income citizens who grow enough pot for personal use (comparable to those who have a couple glasses of wine at night). No priors, not a burden on society, providing for what was it...5 kids between the two of them?

And you think they have "shady characters" traipsing through the house, or even more laughable that kids can distinguish when the authorities should be involved? In this particular case, dumb, disgruntled teen took out his revenge against what probably is a privileged upbringing, in a way that will have repercussions continue to come long after he matures and gains sophistication of how the world works.

Riiight. Nothing says "personal use" like 18 plants and 12 baggies with 2 grand in cash lying around.
In addition, they were growing it in the kid's room.
So we've got two upstanding citizens, dealing drugs out of their children's room and you compare that to drinking wine with dinner. I'm really hoping you're not a parent.

And I don't think having 2K cash in the house can be automatically assumed "drug money" for this particular couple.

When I smoke pot for personal use, I like to keep it in 12 separate baggies and ten separate containers.

So you just mix all your beer and liquor together in one container? That's pretty efficient.

Sigh. No facepalm big enough for that profoundly pathetic false equivalency.


Please explain in detail why it is a false equivalency.
 
2012-08-26 05:09:04 PM

MrGiggles: Lotta hate for the kid.

So tell me, then.

What the hell was he supposed to do? Keep quiet and pray he didn't get charged as an accessory, shot by rival drug-dealers, or get busted because he got so much as a weed leaf on his shoes?

Face it. The kid was in a catch-22. He didn't make the right decision because there was no right decision.


Some laws really do need to be changed.
 
2012-08-26 05:29:57 PM

Langdon_777: MrGiggles: Lotta hate for the kid.

So tell me, then.

What the hell was he supposed to do? Keep quiet and pray he didn't get charged as an accessory, shot by rival drug-dealers, or get busted because he got so much as a weed leaf on his shoes?

Face it. The kid was in a catch-22. He didn't make the right decision because there was no right decision.

Some laws really do need to be changed.


Parents need to teach common sense and family loyalty. Would you instruct the child to report his mom going down on the dad or taking it in the ass? Because we used to have laws against that and things even more ridiculous."Law" should not be the end all be all. While it's smart to abide by whatever current law in your jurisdiction is, a smart teen would be taught the history of how and why certain laws have come about.
 
2012-08-26 05:35:51 PM

Witness99: Langdon_777: MrGiggles: Lotta hate for the kid.

So tell me, then.

What the hell was he supposed to do? Keep quiet and pray he didn't get charged as an accessory, shot by rival drug-dealers, or get busted because he got so much as a weed leaf on his shoes?

Face it. The kid was in a catch-22. He didn't make the right decision because there was no right decision.

Some laws really do need to be changed.

Parents need to teach common sense and family loyalty. Would you instruct the child to report his mom going down on the dad or taking it in the ass? Because we used to have laws against that and things even more ridiculous."Law" should not be the end all be all. While it's smart to abide by whatever current law in your jurisdiction is, a smart teen would be taught the history of how and why certain laws have come about.


Family loyalty is overrated. Way overrated. People will screw you regardless of who you are.
 
2012-08-26 05:39:53 PM

Witness99: Langdon_777: MrGiggles: Lotta hate for the kid.

So tell me, then.

What the hell was he supposed to do? Keep quiet and pray he didn't get charged as an accessory, shot by rival drug-dealers, or get busted because he got so much as a weed leaf on his shoes?

Face it. The kid was in a catch-22. He didn't make the right decision because there was no right decision.

Some laws really do need to be changed.

Parents need to teach common sense and family loyalty. Would you instruct the child to report his mom going down on the dad or taking it in the ass? Because we used to have laws against that and things even more ridiculous."Law" should not be the end all be all. While it's smart to abide by whatever current law in your jurisdiction is, a smart teen would be taught the history of how and why certain laws have come about.


step-children. STEP CHILDREN. 
farm6.static.flickr.com
 
2012-08-26 05:46:13 PM

lewismarktwo: eddiesocket:

When I smoke pot for personal use, I like to keep it in 12 separate baggies and ten separate containers.

So you just mix all your beer and liquor together in one container? That's pretty efficient.

Sigh. No facepalm big enough for that profoundly pathetic false equivalency.

Please explain in detail why it is a false equivalency.


I'm waiting...
 
2012-08-26 05:46:14 PM

bhcompy: Witness99: Langdon_777: MrGiggles: Lotta hate for the kid.

So tell me, then.

What the hell was he supposed to do? Keep quiet and pray he didn't get charged as an accessory, shot by rival drug-dealers, or get busted because he got so much as a weed leaf on his shoes?

Face it. The kid was in a catch-22. He didn't make the right decision because there was no right decision.

Some laws really do need to be changed.

Parents need to teach common sense and family loyalty. Would you instruct the child to report his mom going down on the dad or taking it in the ass? Because we used to have laws against that and things even more ridiculous."Law" should not be the end all be all. While it's smart to abide by whatever current law in your jurisdiction is, a smart teen would be taught the history of how and why certain laws have come about.

Family loyalty is overrated. Way overrated. People will screw you regardless of who you are.


Well that's surprising to me. I would think that people, young people included, would have a little more concern, compassion and understanding for family members.

FFS, these parents (as far as we know), weren't beating the kids, sexually molesting them...if they truly were involved in the professions mentioned in the article then they must have been extremely busy...and quite frankly, I don't blame them for smoking pot. They devoted themselves to being good citizens, paying taxes and raising five children, now teens. I'm not a parent, but that sounds pretty challenging to me.
 
2012-08-26 05:53:06 PM

AbbeySomeone: WTFDYW: jst3p: eddiesocket: They weren't just growing pot for their own use. They were high-level dealers, who probably let all sorts of shady characters in that house. No doubt the kid felt unsafe. He made the right call. Pretty much as a rule, if your own child feels compelled to call the cops on you for any reason, you've failed as a parent.

Want to know how I know you have no idea what you are talking about?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  
THIS

Dumbassery or high trollin'?

The little bastard that phoned them in should be left in 'protective care' until his 18th birthday.
Child endangerment charges are BS unless they had faulty wiring in the grow room and a fire was possible. They would need the extra income that the weed brought just to support all those kids.


Not sure which you are referring to with the troll comment.
 
2012-08-26 05:56:23 PM

MrGiggles: Lotta hate for the kid.

So tell me, then.

What the hell was he supposed to do? Keep quiet and pray he didn't get charged as an accessory, shot by rival drug-dealers, or get busted because he got so much as a weed leaf on his shoes?

Face it. The kid was in a catch-22. He didn't make the right decision because there was no right decision.


You watch too much tv.
 
2012-08-26 05:57:40 PM
Have fun in the foster system. Especially when you have to admit why you are there.
 
2012-08-26 06:04:49 PM

lewismarktwo: eddiesocket: lewismarktwo: eddiesocket: Witness99: eddiesocket: Witness99: eddiesocket: They weren't just growing pot for their own use. They were high-level dealers, who probably let all sorts of shady characters in that house. No doubt the kid felt unsafe. He made the right call. Pretty much as a rule, if your own child feels compelled to call the cops on you for any reason, you've failed as a parent.

Let's see, we have two college educated, professional, six figure income citizens who grow enough pot for personal use (comparable to those who have a couple glasses of wine at night). No priors, not a burden on society, providing for what was it...5 kids between the two of them?

And you think they have "shady characters" traipsing through the house, or even more laughable that kids can distinguish when the authorities should be involved? In this particular case, dumb, disgruntled teen took out his revenge against what probably is a privileged upbringing, in a way that will have repercussions continue to come long after he matures and gains sophistication of how the world works.

Riiight. Nothing says "personal use" like 18 plants and 12 baggies with 2 grand in cash lying around.
In addition, they were growing it in the kid's room.
So we've got two upstanding citizens, dealing drugs out of their children's room and you compare that to drinking wine with dinner. I'm really hoping you're not a parent.

And I don't think having 2K cash in the house can be automatically assumed "drug money" for this particular couple.

When I smoke pot for personal use, I like to keep it in 12 separate baggies and ten separate containers.

So you just mix all your beer and liquor together in one container? That's pretty efficient.

Sigh. No facepalm big enough for that profoundly pathetic false equivalency.

Please explain in detail why it is a false equivalency.


Well as a ex-weed dealer a long time smoker I can say 12 baggies is not necessarily intent to distribute. If you are a connoisseur then having 12 different kinds of weed in 12 different baggies is normal. The same weed in 12 different baggies says something else. Though I often have 3 containers of the same weed. One is a travel container, one is a home/frequent use container and the third is a bulk container only opened to refill the other two.
 
2012-08-26 06:06:27 PM

Witness99: Well that's surprising to me. I would think that people, young people included, would have a little more concern, compassion and understanding for family members.

FFS, these parents (as far as we know), weren't beating the kids, sexually molesting them...if they truly were involved in the professions mentioned in the article then they must have been extremely busy...and quite frankly, I don't blame them for smoking pot. They devoted themselves to being good citizens, paying taxes and raising five children, now teens. I'm not a parent, but that sounds pretty challenging to me.


And we don't know the whole story. Obviously they've been doing this for a while, so the kid had ample opportunity. This is probably the kid getting back at the parents for something, as mentioned in this thread.

As far as family, one of my parents killed themselves while I was very young and the other ran out with another person that hated me and my sibling a few years later, leaving us without any parents. My inlaws are constantly fighting with my wife's aunts and uncles over the ailing family patriarch. When he was in ICU with a dire heart issue half of them wanted the doctors to pull life support while at the same time their kids were heading to his house to grab his stashes of money and other valuables(which I had already placed in a safety deposit box), but they still do things with each other because "you can only trust family". I could go on. Yea, fark family right in the ass.
 
2012-08-26 06:23:25 PM

bhcompy: Witness99: Well that's surprising to me. I would think that people, young people included, would have a little more concern, compassion and understanding for family members.

FFS, these parents (as far as we know), weren't beating the kids, sexually molesting them...if they truly were involved in the professions mentioned in the article then they must have been extremely busy...and quite frankly, I don't blame them for smoking pot. They devoted themselves to being good citizens, paying taxes and raising five children, now teens. I'm not a parent, but that sounds pretty challenging to me.

And we don't know the whole story. Obviously they've been doing this for a while, so the kid had ample opportunity. This is probably the kid getting back at the parents for something, as mentioned in this thread.

As far as family, one of my parents killed themselves while I was very young and the other ran out with another person that hated me and my sibling a few years later, leaving us without any parents. My inlaws are constantly fighting with my wife's aunts and uncles over the ailing family patriarch. When he was in ICU with a dire heart issue half of them wanted the doctors to pull life support while at the same time their kids were heading to his house to grab his stashes of money and other valuables(which I had already placed in a safety deposit box), but they still do things with each other because "you can only trust family". I could go on. Yea, fark family right in the ass.


"Family" is what you make it. You've heard the saying "can't choose your family, but can choose your friends.". Actually, you can choose everyone in your life who is important to you.
 
2012-08-26 06:23:33 PM
I just thought he was a waaay misguided kid, who has basically screwed up his next 20, err 40 maybe even 50 years - but that's cool.

May the War Drums continue and our ignorant young head the call.
 
2012-08-26 06:29:20 PM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: MasterAdkins: I would love to know what was going though the kid's head.

My friend's brother threatened to turn in his parents at 5 years old for smoking pot. BTW, his Dad has MS.

He works for a Republican think tank now.

/wish I was joking


I wish they'd gotten him help while there was time. You can still fix most broken 5-year-old brains.
 
2012-08-26 06:30:45 PM

Witness99: "Family" is what you make it. You've heard the saying "can't choose your family, but can choose your friends.". Actually, you can choose everyone in your life who is important to you.


The problem is that family is more dangerous, because people have some innate and unreasonable trust of family
 
2012-08-26 06:32:02 PM

Langdon_777: I just thought he was a waaay misguided kid, who has basically screwed up his next 20, err 40 maybe even 50 years - but that's cool.

May the War Drums continue and our ignorant young head the call.


OTOH, did his parents prep him? Or were they too busy. I dont blame this boy, I think there's plenty of derp to go around. I feel bad for the whole family.
 
2012-08-26 06:35:47 PM

Witness99: Langdon_777: I just thought he was a waaay misguided kid, who has basically screwed up his next 20, err 40 maybe even 50 years - but that's cool.

May the War Drums continue and our ignorant young head the call.

OTOH, did his parents prep him? Or were they too busy. I dont blame this boy, I think there's plenty of derp to go around. I feel bad for the whole family.


*sigh* yeah
 
2012-08-26 06:39:01 PM
Oh, man, a couple of professionals growing their own, how horrible.

As to the money? A couple of grand among a family that size is pin-money.

The kid who reported 'em is a moron, hopefully he has no real higher education ambition or is a hell of a ball player or smart. But I think if he was smart he'd have figured out a better choice.

And THIS friends is why I own a large gun safe.
 
2012-08-26 06:45:30 PM

Arthur Jumbles: MasterAdkins: I would love to know what was going though the kid's head.

I would love to know what was going through the parents' heads.... I can't imagine doing something so stupid. Of course, they were potheads so quickness of thought shouldn't be expected.


The average pothead is more useful to society than the average Drug Warrior.

Really. Do the math.
 
2012-08-26 06:50:36 PM

MrGiggles: What the hell was he supposed to do?


"Um, Stepmom and Dad, I'm not comfortable living here. I'm gonna go move in with my Mom and/or other relative."

And scene.

Bringing authorities into your relationships with your closest relatives should always be avoided if at all possible.
 
2012-08-26 06:55:16 PM

bhcompy: Family loyalty is overrated. Way overrated. People will screw you regardless of who you are.


Sorry you were dealt such a shiatty hand. That's just not the case for everyone though.
 
2012-08-26 07:09:20 PM

FirstNationalBastard: SandMann: Good luck paying for college, kid.

And good luck having a social life.

You think anyone's going to invite him to the good parties knowing that he narced out his own parents?


Good is a relative term.

Not everyone enjoys hanging around with a bunch of people who purposefully ingest/inject things to make them functionally brain damaged.

/I don't care what you do doesn't mean I want to hang around you while you do it.
 
2012-08-26 07:36:03 PM

eddiesocket: Witness99: eddiesocket: They weren't just growing pot for their own use. They were high-level dealers, who probably let all sorts of shady characters in that house. No doubt the kid felt unsafe. He made the right call. Pretty much as a rule, if your own child feels compelled to call the cops on you for any reason, you've failed as a parent.

Let's see, we have two college educated, professional, six figure income citizens who grow enough pot for personal use (comparable to those who have a couple glasses of wine at night). No priors, not a burden on society, providing for what was it...5 kids between the two of them?

And you think they have "shady characters" traipsing through the house, or even more laughable that kids can distinguish when the authorities should be involved? In this particular case, dumb, disgruntled teen took out his revenge against what probably is a privileged upbringing, in a way that will have repercussions continue to come long after he matures and gains sophistication of how the world works.

Riiight. Nothing says "personal use" like 18 plants and 12 baggies with 2 grand in cash lying around.
In addition, they were growing it in the kid's room.
So we've got two upstanding citizens, dealing drugs out of their children's room and you compare that to drinking wine with dinner. I'm really hoping you're not a parent.



There are an awful lot of angry "potheads" in this thread who are threatening all kinds of things to this kid. Anything from "not getting invited to parties" to "beaten to a bloody pulp". They're also assuming that there's no possible way that this kid had shady characters coming into his house or that he might've felt unsafe.

Nope, just a knee-jerk reaction of "snitches get stitches" and then they WONDER why they can never seem to hold the moral high ground long enough to get any legislation passed in their favor?

How long do you think the gay rights (LGBT ect..) would've lasted if they were threatening to beat to a pulp any parents who disowned their gay kids? Or implied that anyone who wasn't gay wasn't going to have a happy or fulfilling social life?

Thankfully they didn't do that. They took the "high" road, as it were, and it's paying off big dividends for them.

/can't say the same for the pro-weed folks.
 
2012-08-26 07:45:50 PM

lewismarktwo: Please explain in detail why it is a false equivalency.


I don't think I really need to detail the differences between solid and liquids.
 
2012-08-26 07:46:05 PM

buzzcut73: Apos: Ahhh...The subject of Snow's Informer song!

I hate you now. Hope you're happy.


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2012-08-26 07:51:50 PM

cuzsis: eddiesocket: Witness99: eddiesocket: They weren't just growing pot for their own use. They were high-level dealers, who probably let all sorts of shady characters in that house. No doubt the kid felt unsafe. He made the right call. Pretty much as a rule, if your own child feels compelled to call the cops on you for any reason, you've failed as a parent.

Let's see, we have two college educated, professional, six figure income citizens who grow enough pot for personal use (comparable to those who have a couple glasses of wine at night). No priors, not a burden on society, providing for what was it...5 kids between the two of them?

And you think they have "shady characters" traipsing through the house, or even more laughable that kids can distinguish when the authorities should be involved? In this particular case, dumb, disgruntled teen took out his revenge against what probably is a privileged upbringing, in a way that will have repercussions continue to come long after he matures and gains sophistication of how the world works.

Riiight. Nothing says "personal use" like 18 plants and 12 baggies with 2 grand in cash lying around.
In addition, they were growing it in the kid's room.
So we've got two upstanding citizens, dealing drugs out of their children's room and you compare that to drinking wine with dinner. I'm really hoping you're not a parent.


There are an awful lot of angry "potheads" in this thread who are threatening all kinds of things to this kid. Anything from "not getting invited to parties" to "beaten to a bloody pulp". They're also assuming that there's no possible way that this kid had shady characters coming into his house or that he might've felt unsafe.

Nope, just a knee-jerk reaction of "snitches get stitches" and then they WONDER why they can never seem to hold the moral high ground long enough to get any legislation passed in their favor?

How long do you think the gay rights (LGBT ect..) would've lasted if they were threatening to beat ...


And the thing is, I like pot. I smoke it on occasion. I think it should be legal. I also think that if you're dealing out of your kids' bedroom (or even getting farked up around them) you're a bad parent.
 
2012-08-26 07:54:23 PM
I like to garden, and my kids enjoy it too. Theyve seen cannabis in the back since they were children, and never had any twisted notions about it hammered into their mind, it's just another plant like bell peppers or mint in the garden. They are ignorant to the relaxant effects, and I intend for it to stay that way until they are the proper age to be discussing addictions and the darker sides of human behavior.

There have often been cannabis plants in my garden over the years, among several other vegetables, edible plants, ornamentals, etc. It will piss a lot of people off, but my kids have watered my garden plenty of times over the years. They know when a cannabis plant is looking sad, even, and will alert me, just like other plants. I imagine if I told her someone called the police on their mom and dad for cannabis, she would be incredibly confused by it and the madness attached to cannabis growth, and probably think the kid quite foolish.
 
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