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2012-08-26 01:44:08 PM  

lucksi: Both are scheduled for formal arraignments in the Bucks County Court of Common Pleas on Sept. 21. They remain free on their own recognizance.

White people get treated differently, no?


If the family was brown or black there's no way they would have been released on their own recognizance. Bail would have been set ridiculously high.
 
2012-08-26 01:51:31 PM  

MasterAdkins: I would love to know what was going though the kid's head.


Probably mad that his parents wouldn't buy him the latest iphone because his current one is 6 months old. Most 20-somethings I know living with their parents would do the exact same thing.
 
2012-08-26 01:52:32 PM  
Weren't you people ever teenagers?

It's possible the kid just heard a teacher say drugs are bad in school and thought, "I better call the cops on my parents then", but if that's your first theory then you are pretty naive.

I would give it a 90% chance the teenager was unfairly (in his mind) and severely punished for something; probably was beat up by murder-faced Dad. In fact, I think it's a very good possibility that the kid was smoking a joint, and his hypocrite parents punished him for it.

And no, many teenagers aren't going think through the consequences of narking. Some will realize it'd be a bad idea, will bide their time, and unleash holy revenge as soon as they can... or get over it. Many will, as teenagers do, go for the instant gratification.
 
2012-08-26 01:57:10 PM  
While I don't think pot should be illegal in any sense, I do have to say having your kids live in the grow room...really? Although, it is a basement and many (mine included) have a small room for laundry or storage, abducted its not impossible the plants were locked up in something like that.

But still... I wouldn't want my teenage kids to have access to that. They might steal it...
 
2012-08-26 01:57:10 PM  

Apos: This is how Weeds should have ended three seasons ago....


Then we would have never had those great plot lines like the youngest Botwin masturbating to naked pictures of his mom when she was younger.
 
2012-08-26 01:58:06 PM  
FTA: felony charges of manufacturing marijuana and conspiracy to manufacture marijuana


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Manufacturing tomatoes

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Manufacturing basil


/I love drug law drama
 
2012-08-26 01:59:15 PM  

Flying Lasagna Monster: Apos: This is how Weeds should have ended three seasons ago....

Then we would have never had those great plot lines like the youngest Botwin masturbating to naked pictures of his mom when she was younger.


I'd somehow blocked that scene from my mind. Still, last season had Michelle Trachtenberg, so that was a plus.
 
2012-08-26 01:59:21 PM  

eddiesocket: They weren't just growing pot for their own use. They were high-level dealers, who probably let all sorts of shady characters in that house. No doubt the kid felt unsafe. He made the right call. Pretty much as a rule, if your own child feels compelled to call the cops on you for any reason, you've failed as a parent.


Let's see, we have two college educated, professional, six figure income citizens who grow enough pot for personal use (comparable to those who have a couple glasses of wine at night). No priors, not a burden on society, providing for what was it...5 kids between the two of them?

And you think they have "shady characters" traipsing through the house, or even more laughable that kids can distinguish when the authorities should be involved? In this particular case, dumb, disgruntled teen took out his revenge against what probably is a privileged upbringing, in a way that will have repercussions continue to come long after he matures and gains sophistication of how the world works.
 
2012-08-26 02:02:09 PM  

keepitcherry: lucksi: Both are scheduled for formal arraignments in the Bucks County Court of Common Pleas on Sept. 21. They remain free on their own recognizance.

White people get treated differently, no?

If the family was brown or black there's no way they would have been released on their own recognizance. Bail would have been set ridiculously high.


hate to say it, but if they were brown or black, they wouldn't have a narc for a son. They'd have a lookout on a bicycle on the corner of the block.
 
2012-08-26 02:03:02 PM  
Her FB photos aren't as exciting as I had hoped for.
 
2012-08-26 02:04:00 PM  

Turd_Ferguson: Barbara Bush is rolling over in her grave right now.


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R.I.P.
 
2012-08-26 02:04:40 PM  
I would love to interview this kid.
 
2012-08-26 02:06:29 PM  
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That dude looks ripped.

Torn, even.
 
2012-08-26 02:08:05 PM  

Prof. Frink: Guess who now will have to take out a shiatton of college loans in a few years?


Funny thing is, if the situation was reversed, he'd still have to take out a shiatton of loans. No federal aid allowed if you have a drug record.
 
2012-08-26 02:09:10 PM  

Turd_Ferguson: Barbara Bush is rolling over in her grave right now.


You know, I know people used to make fun of her looks, but damn...

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She was GORGEOUS when she was younger.
 
2012-08-26 02:09:22 PM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: MasterAdkins: I would love to know what was going though the kid's head.

Probably mad that his parents wouldn't buy him the latest iphone because his current one is 6 months old. Most 20-somethings I know living with their parents would do the exact same thing.


I feel sorry for the the rare shiat bags that you happen to know
 
2012-08-26 02:09:49 PM  
What a square.
 
2012-08-26 02:14:01 PM  

Amos Quito: [bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com image 300x240]


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That dude looks ripped.

Torn, even.


I was thinking more along the lines of Meatloaf.

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2012-08-26 02:15:24 PM  
Not enough information to make a judgement call. First reaction was that the kid was disgruntled about something. After some reflection I don't think growing pot in the basement is a good plan for two professionals with five kids, just from a practical point of view. They were doing something that was illegal (no matter how you feel about it) and that's risky. If nothing else they were maintaining an attractive nuisance.
 
2012-08-26 02:17:56 PM  
This is what happens when you try to compete with US backed Sinola Cartel.
 
2012-08-26 02:20:27 PM  

Witness99: eddiesocket: They weren't just growing pot for their own use. They were high-level dealers, who probably let all sorts of shady characters in that house. No doubt the kid felt unsafe. He made the right call. Pretty much as a rule, if your own child feels compelled to call the cops on you for any reason, you've failed as a parent.

Let's see, we have two college educated, professional, six figure income citizens who grow enough pot for personal use (comparable to those who have a couple glasses of wine at night). No priors, not a burden on society, providing for what was it...5 kids between the two of them?

And you think they have "shady characters" traipsing through the house, or even more laughable that kids can distinguish when the authorities should be involved? In this particular case, dumb, disgruntled teen took out his revenge against what probably is a privileged upbringing, in a way that will have repercussions continue to come long after he matures and gains sophistication of how the world works.


Riiight. Nothing says "personal use" like 18 plants and 12 baggies with 2 grand in cash lying around.
In addition, they were growing it in the kid's room.
So we've got two upstanding citizens, dealing drugs out of their children's room and you compare that to drinking wine with dinner. I'm really hoping you're not a parent.
 
2012-08-26 02:20:38 PM  
I'd love to see a follow up in about a year, after he's been through a few foster homes and has had some time to think.
 
2012-08-26 02:20:52 PM  
I would guess it has something to do with the family dynamics. The dad moved the Carol lady and her 3 kids in a year after he divorced. If my father got a new family within a year, and made me live in the basement, I might be a little upset too.
 
2012-08-26 02:22:51 PM  

BMFPitt: I'd love to see a follow up in about a year, after he's been through a few foster homes and has had some time to think.


Hopefully they have some uncles or grandparents who won't deal drugs out of their kids' bedroom.
 
2012-08-26 02:22:53 PM  
This is what you get when hippies sell out and become fascists.
You can't run with the fox and hunt with the hounds.
 
2012-08-26 02:27:34 PM  

flynn80: This is what happens when you try to compete with US backed Sinola Cartel.


More like the Pfizer, Bayer, and GlaxoSmithKline cartels
 
2012-08-26 02:29:19 PM  

Bob16: People really need to read Spenglers "The Decline Of The West" to understand this conflict that seems to be going on between Boomers and their kids.

Especially the part about cultural subjugation.


Yes! (and nicely referenced :)
 
2012-08-26 02:33:38 PM  
TFA: The marijuana growing operation was located in the same basement as a bedroom shared by two of the couple's five children from previous marriages. Medvedik has two children, ages 17 and 15 at the time of his arrest in late May. Shanfeld's children were 14, 12 and 10 at the time of her arrest.

The Brady Bunch: The Next Generation.
 
2012-08-26 02:41:07 PM  
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N00bs.
 
2012-08-26 02:43:19 PM  

digitalrain: Turd_Ferguson: Barbara Bush is rolling over in her grave right now.

You know, I know people used to make fun of her looks, but damn...

[s3.hubimg.com image 260x325]

She was GORGEOUS when she was younger.


I never realised - what a waste :(
 
2012-08-26 02:43:34 PM  

WTFDYW: jst3p: eddiesocket: They weren't just growing pot for their own use. They were high-level dealers, who probably let all sorts of shady characters in that house. No doubt the kid felt unsafe. He made the right call. Pretty much as a rule, if your own child feels compelled to call the cops on you for any reason, you've failed as a parent.

Want to know how I know you have no idea what you are talking about?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  
THIS


Dumbassery or high trollin'?

The little bastard that phoned them in should be left in 'protective care' until his 18th birthday.
Child endangerment charges are BS unless they had faulty wiring in the grow room and a fire was possible. They would need the extra income that the weed brought just to support all those kids.
 
2012-08-26 02:46:34 PM  
What a turd. Birthdays are going to be different now and I'm sure thanksgiving will have a nasty twist to it as well. They might be christian so those holidays are out too.
I hope his moral superiority is well served by this the little jerk. Sanctimonious little prick that he is.
 
2012-08-26 02:50:15 PM  

Marcintosh: What a turd. Birthdays are going to be different now and I'm sure thanksgiving will have a nasty twist to it as well. They might be christian so those holidays are out too.
I hope his moral superiority is well served by this the little jerk. Sanctimonious little prick that he is.


Right, it couldn't possibly be the drug dealing parent's fault. Nope. No way.
 
2012-08-26 02:52:48 PM  

eddiesocket: Marcintosh: What a turd. Birthdays are going to be different now and I'm sure thanksgiving will have a nasty twist to it as well. They might be christian so those holidays are out too.
I hope his moral superiority is well served by this the little jerk. Sanctimonious little prick that he is.

Right, it couldn't possibly be the drug dealing parent's fault. Nope. No way.


You might want to come down off that moral high-horse. It might cause a nose-bleed.
 
2012-08-26 02:54:20 PM  

merrymarch: I would guess it has something to do with the family dynamics. The dad moved the Carol lady and her 3 kids in a year after he divorced. If my father got a new family within a year, and made me live in the basement, I might be a little upset too.


That's a reasonable guess.

Especially if the kids thought dad only wanted their custody to avoid paying child support to mom.

/can't imagine any kid wanting to live in an overly-lit, smelly, noisy-fan basement either
 
2012-08-26 02:55:09 PM  

eddiesocket: Witness99: eddiesocket: They weren't just growing pot for their own use. They were high-level dealers, who probably let all sorts of shady characters in that house. No doubt the kid felt unsafe. He made the right call. Pretty much as a rule, if your own child feels compelled to call the cops on you for any reason, you've failed as a parent.

Let's see, we have two college educated, professional, six figure income citizens who grow enough pot for personal use (comparable to those who have a couple glasses of wine at night). No priors, not a burden on society, providing for what was it...5 kids between the two of them?

And you think they have "shady characters" traipsing through the house, or even more laughable that kids can distinguish when the authorities should be involved? In this particular case, dumb, disgruntled teen took out his revenge against what probably is a privileged upbringing, in a way that will have repercussions continue to come long after he matures and gains sophistication of how the world works.

Riiight. Nothing says "personal use" like 18 plants and 12 baggies with 2 grand in cash lying around.
In addition, they were growing it in the kid's room.
So we've got two upstanding citizens, dealing drugs out of their children's room and you compare that to drinking wine with dinner. I'm really hoping you're not a parent.


Well, I do appreciate your concern for the children (sincerely). And while not a parent, I was a teen once. I've been around long enough to see the gray areas, especially those that exist in law enforcement.

I do not believe they were dealers, based on the fact they had 18 plants (probably in various stages of growth)...most alcohol drinkers have well more than that amount of "high" on hand. I'm not a pot smoker or dealer, but I honestly don't know how anyone could run a "grow operation for dealing" with 18 plants. But iwasnt there...who knows, maybe they were charging their shady friends for hits.
 
2012-08-26 02:55:12 PM  
Obviously that's just a bad camera angle for the father. He couldn't possibly be angry. Absolutely everyone in the grow business is a cheerful happy unicorn loving happy person! I read it on the internet, so it must be true.
 
2012-08-26 02:55:27 PM  
Well someone doesn't get to go to college now.
 
2012-08-26 02:57:09 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Amos Quito: [bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com image 300x240]


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That dude looks ripped.

Torn, even.

I was thinking more along the lines of Meatloaf.

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"You disobeyed my orders son! Why we're you ever born?.."
 
2012-08-26 02:57:58 PM  

eddiesocket: Witness99: eddiesocket: They weren't just growing pot for their own use. They were high-level dealers, who probably let all sorts of shady characters in that house. No doubt the kid felt unsafe. He made the right call. Pretty much as a rule, if your own child feels compelled to call the cops on you for any reason, you've failed as a parent.

Let's see, we have two college educated, professional, six figure income citizens who grow enough pot for personal use (comparable to those who have a couple glasses of wine at night). No priors, not a burden on society, providing for what was it...5 kids between the two of them?

And you think they have "shady characters" traipsing through the house, or even more laughable that kids can distinguish when the authorities should be involved? In this particular case, dumb, disgruntled teen took out his revenge against what probably is a privileged upbringing, in a way that will have repercussions continue to come long after he matures and gains sophistication of how the world works.

Riiight. Nothing says "personal use" like 18 plants and 12 baggies with 2 grand in cash lying around.
In addition, they were growing it in the kid's room.
So we've got two upstanding citizens, dealing drugs out of their children's room and you compare that to drinking wine with dinner. I'm really hoping you're not a parent.


And I don't think having 2K cash in the house can be automatically assumed "drug money" for this particular couple.
 
2012-08-26 03:04:09 PM  

insertsnarkyusername: Well someone doesn't get to go to college now.


insertsnarkyusername: Well someone doesn't get to go to college now.


Someone might have given themselves a free ride.... a friend of mine got kicked out his home when he told his parents he was gay. That, and the fact he was smart enough to document everything, was enough for him to be declared independent for the purpose of the FAFSA.
 
2012-08-26 03:19:23 PM  
Reminds me of this:
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We love you very much. If you were Jeffrey Dahmer, we would still love you.
 
2012-08-26 03:19:33 PM  
This happened to a friend of mine and his wife. The teenage daughter wanted to date a guy that they didn't approve of - she is 13. The guy was a bad character all around. She decided that this would teach them.
 
2012-08-26 03:19:37 PM  

Witness99: eddiesocket: Witness99: eddiesocket: They weren't just growing pot for their own use. They were high-level dealers, who probably let all sorts of shady characters in that house. No doubt the kid felt unsafe. He made the right call. Pretty much as a rule, if your own child feels compelled to call the cops on you for any reason, you've failed as a parent.

Let's see, we have two college educated, professional, six figure income citizens who grow enough pot for personal use (comparable to those who have a couple glasses of wine at night). No priors, not a burden on society, providing for what was it...5 kids between the two of them?

And you think they have "shady characters" traipsing through the house, or even more laughable that kids can distinguish when the authorities should be involved? In this particular case, dumb, disgruntled teen took out his revenge against what probably is a privileged upbringing, in a way that will have repercussions continue to come long after he matures and gains sophistication of how the world works.

Riiight. Nothing says "personal use" like 18 plants and 12 baggies with 2 grand in cash lying around.
In addition, they were growing it in the kid's room.
So we've got two upstanding citizens, dealing drugs out of their children's room and you compare that to drinking wine with dinner. I'm really hoping you're not a parent.

And I don't think having 2K cash in the house can be automatically assumed "drug money" for this particular couple.


When I smoke pot for personal use, I like to keep it in 12 separate baggies and ten separate containers.
 
2012-08-26 03:20:35 PM  

Coco LaFemme: gopher321: Yeah, that sounds like it wasn't just a home grow for their own consumption - who cares about that? Sounds more like they were dealing. Maybe the kid was scared some local punks would show up at their doorstep at 2am with a shotgun.

That's the only reason I could understand narc'ing on your parents, or anyone you had ties with. Now, if the parents were cooking up some meth in the basement, that's a whole other story.

On a slightly related note, the drug laws in this country really, really need to change. I don't do drugs, so this isn't for my benefit, but it's positively asinine that weed is illegal, and put at the same level as PCP, heroin, and crack. It's a farking plant. More people die from getting drunk and falling in the shower, than smoking too many joints. I'd rather sit next to someone who was higher than a kite, than sit next to a drunk or someone chain-smoking Marlboros.


Just come over to my place and you can do both!
 
2012-08-26 03:26:00 PM  
I had 3 plants yield around a quarter pound one time. So they were probably going to harvest around a pound and a half give or take. Growing it indoors can give you more crops per year so yeah they were obviously selling the pot. I only grew it for my ex who was blowing $400 a month on the crap.
 
2012-08-26 03:26:43 PM  

gja:
biatching out your parents? Get used to sleeping in the car kiddo.


As far as I can see, the word is "parent", not "parents".

FTFA: Shanfeld, a chiropractor, and Medvedik, a software engineer, were arrested after one of their teenage sons called police to report his parents were growing marijuana in the basement. ... Medvedik has two children, ages 17 and 15 at the time of his arrest in late May. Shanfeld's children were 14, 12 and 10 at the time of her arrest.

If they have children that age from previous marriages, it seems unlikely that they also have teenage children themselves. I suspect that there is a lot we don't know about relationships within the family.
 
2012-08-26 03:29:22 PM  

eddiesocket: Witness99: eddiesocket: Witness99: eddiesocket: They weren't just growing pot for their own use. They were high-level dealers, who probably let all sorts of shady characters in that house. No doubt the kid felt unsafe. He made the right call. Pretty much as a rule, if your own child feels compelled to call the cops on you for any reason, you've failed as a parent.

Let's see, we have two college educated, professional, six figure income citizens who grow enough pot for personal use (comparable to those who have a couple glasses of wine at night). No priors, not a burden on society, providing for what was it...5 kids between the two of them?

And you think they have "shady characters" traipsing through the house, or even more laughable that kids can distinguish when the authorities should be involved? In this particular case, dumb, disgruntled teen took out his revenge against what probably is a privileged upbringing, in a way that will have repercussions continue to come long after he matures and gains sophistication of how the world works.

Riiight. Nothing says "personal use" like 18 plants and 12 baggies with 2 grand in cash lying around.
In addition, they were growing it in the kid's room.
So we've got two upstanding citizens, dealing drugs out of their children's room and you compare that to drinking wine with dinner. I'm really hoping you're not a parent.

And I don't think having 2K cash in the house can be automatically assumed "drug money" for this particular couple.

When I smoke pot for personal use, I like to keep it in 12 separate baggies and ten separate containers.


So you just mix all your beer and liquor together in one container? That's pretty efficient.
 
2012-08-26 03:30:48 PM  

eddiesocket: Witness99: eddiesocket: Witness99: eddiesocket: They weren't just growing pot for their own use. They were high-level dealers, who probably let all sorts of shady characters in that house. No doubt the kid felt unsafe. He made the right call. Pretty much as a rule, if your own child feels compelled to call the cops on you for any reason, you've failed as a parent.

Let's see, we have two college educated, professional, six figure income citizens who grow enough pot for personal use (comparable to those who have a couple glasses of wine at night). No priors, not a burden on society, providing for what was it...5 kids between the two of them?

And you think they have "shady characters" traipsing through the house, or even more laughable that kids can distinguish when the authorities should be involved? In this particular case, dumb, disgruntled teen took out his revenge against what probably is a privileged upbringing, in a way that will have repercussions continue to come long after he matures and gains sophistication of how the world works.

Riiight. Nothing says "personal use" like 18 plants and 12 baggies with 2 grand in cash lying around.
In addition, they were growing it in the kid's room.
So we've got two upstanding citizens, dealing drugs out of their children's room and you compare that to drinking wine with dinner. I'm really hoping you're not a parent.

And I don't think having 2K cash in the house can be automatically assumed "drug money" for this particular couple.

When I smoke pot for personal use, I like to keep it in 12 separate baggies and ten separate containers.


LOL

Ok, well, if you plan to get college financial aid, you shouldn't do that. The only reason I don't smoke pot (as opposed to drinking alcohol) is that the farked up laws made it illegal and debilitating to me.

Now, as a professional deep into my career at age 40, I suppose I could smoke pot. But I don't, simply because I don't want the legal hassle.

My advice to you is change the laws and don't put yourself in jeopardy. I feel for this couple only because I know the political history of pot versus alcohol, and it's a shame to see people serving their communities go down on technicalities.
 
2012-08-26 03:31:13 PM  
17, 15, 14, 12, and 10. Who would think having five kids in this age range, part of a mixed(step) family, living in your house while you're growing the herb, would be a bad idea? Khrist, I'm a very vocal anti-drug war and pro-legalization advocate, but com'n, that is farking stupid. Just begging for this exact scenario to happen.
 
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