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2012-08-26 08:29:43 AM  

doglover: batcookie

You know you wanna hear about my knuckle children. I name them, you know. Here's a picture. That's Allen, Alicia, Andre, Ashley, Alfred, Allana, (several million names later) and Zoffery.


Again, if it's a choice between that and someone talking about the ADORABLE WAY little Timmy pissed all over himself yesterday... Yeah, the knuckle children are preferable.

wambu: MadAzza: The world does not have to cater to me because I have a vagina.

But I assume it's OK when it does?


Can't speak for her, but personally I get very pissed when I'm treated differently in any way based on the fact that I have a vagina. So no.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2012-08-26 08:31:24 AM  

ShannonKW: You can't put this sort of thing on HR. It's a fault of poor (basically gutless) management


Fine. We were sent shiatty temps. ;) I can recall one case who was especially boorish. His was a position that had a good amount of face time with the public, and the fellow simply could not behave in line with proper business etiquette. He was often an HR issue, but was dealt with by the department manager in lieu of putting another task on HR's busy schedule. Though I live in an at-will state, he was kept around until he broke his own employment levee. I can imagine how he slipped past the radar at first, but it was soon clear that he was a problem. Getting rid of him was harder than evicting a bad tenant.
The thrust of my post to which you responded was really centered around the frustration I've had in the past with co-workers that could not grasp what proper behavior in the workplace is. Sure, we all goof off at times, but the subject in TFA is a personality that is all too common, even in public-facing positions. It oughtn't be so difficult to weed them out, particularly when they are underperforming. Often, management has several hoops to jump through before becoming able to make a move or bring it to HR for reasons I haven't always known, though in one instance a complicated system was in place to prevent a terminated employee from being able to lawyer up and come knocking with demands and documents.
Mostly, though, why is it so difficult for people to, ah, act right?
It's times like these I must pause to reflect and remind myself that not everyone was born with the same grace and civility as I.
The prior line is a joke.

KiplingKat872: He was the councilman. It was his office.


And the calls were coming from inside the lobby!

doglover: Here's hoping you learn about shades of grey


Grey is my favorite color. I felt so symbolic yesterday. If I was Picasso, I would buy myself a grey guitar and play.
 
2012-08-26 08:31:31 AM  
What about my condom coming off during intercourse, but I don't think I got any sperm in my lover's ass? Would that be OK?
 
2012-08-26 08:32:51 AM  

doglover: NickelP: How do you do this anyways? Is this something that happens when you put a magnum xxl on your small wiener? I've broke condoms but never had one just 'fall off'.

I had a girl who would squeeze hard enough to pull them off when she really got into it. It was a shock when it happened the first time.


I had to do a double take when I noticed your Fark handle.
 
2012-08-26 08:35:53 AM  

SDRR: What about my condom coming off during intercourse, but I don't think I got any sperm in my lover's ass? Would that be OK?


Sounds shiatty for you if your condom came off in her ass....
 
2012-08-26 08:37:23 AM  

SDRR: What about my condom coming off during intercourse, but I don't think I got any sperm in my lover's ass? Would that be OK?


Only if you are gay.
 
2012-08-26 08:45:00 AM  

433: Tact, manners, decorum, professionalism. One might think that human resources would press applicants to display any of the aforementioned qualities, but in every office with a chair I've occupied, it's seemed that the process of bringing on new hires involves panning for gold dust with a rusted sieve.


Inflexibility, pedanticness, pomposity. If you're always blaming problems on the people HR or the temp agency sent you, maybe the problem is *YOU.* 

In my experience as a temp, the office often wouldn't have needed a temp if the permanent employees had done their jobs competently.
 
2012-08-26 08:45:07 AM  

MadAzza: The idea behind "talking about sex = sexual harassment" is inherently sexist.


No, because if a female talks about sex to male coworkers they could just as easily claim it was sexual harassment. They generally don't... but usually either because they don't mind it, or they don't want to appear weak.

In the past, perpetrators of sexual harassment have typically been male, but that's because males dominated the workforce both in numbers and position in the hierarchy. The general idea now is that the workplace is not the locker room or the pub: it's not the appropriate place to discuss your intimate life, no matter who you are. I've never heard of a harassment policy that allows female employees to do anything males cannot.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2012-08-26 08:45:41 AM  

SDRR: I don't think I got any sperm in my lover's ass? Would that be OK?


Maybe, maybe not. Have you any STI's, open cuts, wounds, or sores? Does your partner have any acne, ruptured cysts, or ingrown hairs around his or her anus? During intercourse, did you play a little too rough without using enough/reapplying lubricant and rupture or tear any epithelial tissue in your partners rectum? The latter is extremely important to be careful of even if you did not lose your rubber in your lover's rectum.

Because it could be OK.
 
2012-08-26 08:55:08 AM  
It sounds like he needs a tighter fitting condom.
If he were coworker of mine I would be asking him why his condom coming off during sex because condoms come in all sizes. I'd bring in some of the more snug fitting brands and leave them on his desk.
 
2012-08-26 08:55:20 AM  

433: Grey is my favorite color. I felt so symbolic yesterday. If I was Picasso, I would buy myself a grey guitar and play.


Well played. Pass me a bottle, Mr. Jones.
 
2012-08-26 09:01:27 AM  
This thread is full of win lol!
 
2012-08-26 09:03:17 AM  

No Such Agency: MadAzza: The idea behind "talking about sex = sexual harassment" is inherently sexist.

No, because if a female talks about sex to male coworkers they could just as easily claim it was sexual harassment. They generally don't... but usually either because they don't mind it, or they don't want to appear weak.

In the past, perpetrators of sexual harassment have typically been male, but that's because males dominated the workforce both in numbers and position in the hierarchy. The general idea now is that the workplace is not the locker room or the pub: it's not the appropriate place to discuss your intimate life, no matter who you are. I've never heard of a harassment policy that allows female employees to do anything males cannot.


Are you farking joking? See my last post. The workplace is somewhere you spend at least 8 hours a day with other people. People *Gasp* occasionally like to talk about personal stuff. If you aren't doing it in an intimidating way who cares? For the most part now you have a boys club that jokes about shiat like a condom falling off then a female walks up and everyone shuts the fark up because they don't want to get in trouble. I like women in the work place, they make it much funner, and I work with and have worked with some amazing women. To pretend female and male harassment policies don't differ is just dishonest. Maybe 'officially' but in reality if you are a male you have to watch every little thing you say around a female at work that deals with sex. As a female, you could pull your panties down and go to town with a stapler in front of another coworker. If he complained his boss (assuming its a man) would be like "so is she fat or are you gay?" Maybe this makes me a sexist but if a male told me about the whole condom falling off thing I am coming back with small dick jokes and bsing/teasing him, and we both laugh. If a female tells me that I am saying something real short like 'well that sucks' and walking the fark away.
 
2012-08-26 09:03:59 AM  

KiplingKat872: It's when my female co-workers all on "diets" and talk incessantly about food that I want to shoot myself in the head, but then every office has a male work outfreak who needs to tell you how many reps he did that morning, and all the sports talk gets really really boring too.

Both sexes can be incredibly tedious at times.

 

The gabbiest, most tedious coworker I ever had was a man. Whenever I hear men complain about women's conversations I think they must be deaf to all the endless talk about golf that they engage in.
 
2012-08-26 09:23:52 AM  
Sexual harassment threads always bring the he-man woman haters out from under their rocks.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2012-08-26 09:28:00 AM  

superdude72: Inflexibility, pedanticness, pomposity


One of these is a word.

superdude72: maybe the problem is *YOU.*


I suspect I actually lean towards "maybe not," though perhaps I ought to go in for a check-up, as I haven't seen a cube or a wheeled, high-backed ergonomic adjustable chair in five years or so. I don't see it fit to over-examine and nitpick my post when it ought to be clear that I was lamenting the seeming lack of a sense of appropriate behavior in a professional environment and how difficult it can be for employers to shake wheat from chaff. I might be wrong, but I doubt I'm alone when I say that I find it unpleasant to work around vocal assholes playing inappropriate games of grab-ass. Time and place for everything? I'll spend some time today wondering if the problem is me. I think I'd be fair at identifying the variables and resolving a f(x) where 433=farkup.

No Such Agency: The general idea now is that the workplace is not the locker room or the pub: it's not the appropriate place to discuss your intimate life


I dig it, but who will remain to remind the more sensitive skirts that their buttocks look great, particularly so when they arrive to work in heels? Who will offer to rub their shoulders and sideboob midday when their fragile constitution weakens around the noon hour due to undue strain shuttling case files up and down the flight of stairs between departments? Who? Who will remain in place to bolster their self-esteem by delivering properly times compliments concerning their appearance, which they are careful to maintain so the boss is not disappointed with their presentation? I fear for them, as it seems as though the good times are over One day I expect a woman to arrive at work wearing pants!
 
2012-08-26 09:39:15 AM  

doglover: NickelP: How do you do this anyways? Is this something that happens when you put a magnum xxl on your small wiener? I've broke condoms but never had one just 'fall off'.

I had a girl who would squeeze hard enough to pull them off when she really got into it. It was a shock when it happened the first time.


This happened because you have a small, short dick, not because of some chick's squeeze. You need to buy smaller condoms son. If the lady in the article would have mentioned this to the perp he would have stopped talking to her and whimpered off.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2012-08-26 09:42:58 AM  

theorellior: Well played. Pass me a bottle, Mr. Jones.


Thank you, but, I think that something wrong may be happening in TFA and I, Mr. Jones, do not know what it is!

Graffito: I'd bring in some of the more snug fitting brands and leave them on his desk.


Good idea!, though, to ensure that he is clear on your intent and concern, quietly slip him several and lead him to the bathroom so you can escape prying eyes and tilted ears and have the private conversation without embarrassing him in front of his other coworkers. Some people are visual learners, you know, and others just need it properly explained in a smaller classroom. You're right on. I think you have good ideas. It's likely that your community has a need for someone to perform similar services for disadvantaged segments of the population. Do that, and I bet you'll end the day feeling good about yourself and what you gave to those you serviced.
 
2012-08-26 09:48:10 AM  

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: NickelP: How do you do this anyways? Is this something that happens when you put a magnum xxl on your small wiener? I've broke condoms but never had one just 'fall off'.

Get in too much of a hurry and don't put it on all the way.

/or so I've heard


Well... Even when its on all the way, it aint on all the way..... Just saying....
 
2012-08-26 09:59:11 AM  
Calls shenanigans on that...
www.trippedmedia.com
 
2012-08-26 10:10:46 AM  

NickelP: As a female, you could pull your panties down and go to town with a stapler in front of another coworker. If he complained his boss (assuming its a man) would be like "so is she fat or are you gay?"


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-08-26 10:23:02 AM  
NickelP:
To pretend female and male harassment policies don't differ is just dishonest. Maybe 'officially' but in reality if you are a male you have to watch every little thing you say around a female at work that deals with sex. As a female, you could pull your panties down and go to town with a stapler in front of another coworker. If he complained his boss (assuming its a man) would be like "so is she fat or are you gay?"

Um, troll much? You pretty much just told me I'm full of crap, then reiterated what I said. The policy is the same for men and women... that's what "officially" means. How men and women typically respond to situations may be different.

Also, "personal stuff" at work is generally fine, when it's "hey I bought a sweet new motorcycle this weekend"/"my kid got in so much trouble at school"/"That new Batman movie sucks"... not "Let me tell you about my sex life".

Sheesh, so much butthurt derived from the conviction that women are out to steal your testicles.
 
2012-08-26 10:24:22 AM  
She probably brought it up.
"how was your weekend?"
"crazy, rubber fell off."
 
2012-08-26 10:25:33 AM  

MadAzza: The idea behind "talking about sex = sexual harassment" is inherently sexist. It's based on the myth that women are lesser, delicate creatures who need to be protected from discussions about sex (but only when those discussions are instigated by or include men).


If you think all of your male coworkers actually enjoying hearing graphic details about your threesome or bar hookup last night, you're probably going to be the subject of a settlement someday. Yep, happens between men too. You ought to look up male-male sexual harassment and female-female sexual harassment cases, and I'm not even talking about gay come-ons. The technical name for sexual harassment is actually "hostile work environment" when is basically whenever you have very sharp differences in comfort zones; one person overshares and one undershares and when they meet or just sit too close to each other bad things happen. Doesn't have to be the boss, although that's the slam dunk, and it certainly doesn't have to be male-to-female.

NickelP: Are you farking joking? See my last post. The workplace is somewhere you spend at least 8 hours a day with other people. People *Gasp* occasionally like to talk about personal stuff. If you aren't doing it in an intimidating way who cares? For the most part now you have a boys club that jokes about shiat like a condom falling off then a female walks up and everyone shuts the fark up because they don't want to get in trouble. I like women in the work place, they make it much funner, and I work with and have worked with some amazing women. To pretend female and male harassment policies don't differ is just dishonest. Maybe 'officially' but in reality if you are a male you have to watch every little thing you say around a female at work that deals with sex. As a female, you could pull your panties down and go to town with a stapler in front of another coworker. If he complained his boss (assuming its a man) would be like "so is she fat or are you gay?" Maybe this makes me a sexist but if a male told me about the whole condom falling off thing I am coming back with small dick jokes and bsing/teasing him, and we both laugh. If a female tells me that I am saying something real short like 'well that sucks' and walking the fark away.


Aside from having apparently obtained most of your ideas from Mad Men or the modern holdovers of the era, you have absolutely GOT to know who you're talking to thought, because men have filed sexual harassment claims over situations where they were too timid to get out of uncomfortable situations, or where coworkers just won't shut up no matter how many times they're asked. Doesn't even have to be bosses. It doesn't matter if it's all just the boys and you're angels around the girls, you'll get fired if one of them isn't really into it anyway.
 
2012-08-26 10:29:38 AM  

NickelP: GF named my left testicle thundercles: at my old job, the girls liked to run up behind me and slap my ass while i was leaning over a counter doing paper work. i usually would come home from work with scratches bruises and bite marks every day. once i smacked a a girl on the arm and although she was laughing and smiling and slapping back, i got called into the managers office later that week. really dumb double standard. i quit that job.

I had a female coworker tell me and a group of other employees about her sexual escapades with the boss. During this entire thing she called another coworker a whore for the most part. The chick that got called a whore (who was but thats another story) got pissy and told a senior manager about it. Long story short nothing happened to the chick bragging about getting railed by the owner and since apparently I was the only male in the room I got yelled at for not reporting sexual harassment and just minding my own bussiness???? WTF???


The proper response to both situations above is "It sounds like you're saying I was sexually harassed and have a good case." You'll see the whites of HR's eyes and they won't bother you again.

/apologies for typos in previous post, still hung over
 
2012-08-26 10:36:09 AM  
foxyshadis:
Aside from having apparently obtained most of your ideas from Mad Men or the modern holdovers of the era, you have absolutely GOT to know who you're talking to thought, because men have filed sexual harassment claims over situations where they were too timid to get out of uncomfortable situations, or where coworkers just won't shut up no matter how many times they're asked. Doesn't even have to be bosses. It doesn't matter if it's all just the boys and you're angels around the girls, you'll get fired if one of them isn't really into it anyway.

Well said, if I work with you and you're not my good friend, I don't want to hear your (probable lies) about your sex life, or even anything a little too private. If you're my good friend, you know our comfort level well enough to know what to say and what not to say.
 
2012-08-26 10:39:08 AM  

batcookie: doglover: If you can yammer on incessantly about your born kids, I can tell you about my unborn ones.

It's called equality, and you wanted it.

Actually, the equality that would be best would be both parties to shut up about each. I get so annoyed when ANYONE talks about their kids. More so than talking about who they're farking this week, actually.

MadAzza: Oh, for fark's sake.

FTA: (The city manager) claimed Marchione talked about his sex life including a "detailed discussion about his condom coming off during sex and his fear that he impregnated the woman; although he went on to state that he didn't think he got any (sperm) in her."
"Just because he didn't grope anyone and didn't physically do anything doesn't mean it wasn't harassment," said (council member) Gusse.

And you sat there and listened to it. Why did YOU not walk away, or simply tell him to stop?

The idea behind "talking about sex = sexual harassment" is inherently sexist. It's based on the myth that women are lesser, delicate creatures who need to be protected from discussions about sex (but only when those discussions are instigated by or include men).

It further assumes that women are too weak to say, "Shut up, jerkbag," to men whose conversation offends their delicate sensibilities, and that these helpless women need the protection of a paternal figure - the state (i.e., government representative, office or agency), via their employer's human resources department.

It's Victorian, it insults all women, and it pisses me off. I don't need the government's or my employer's protection from a guy acting like a guy. Furthermore, a guy has every right to act like a guy. The world does not have to cater to me because I have a vagina. My vagina doesn't render me mute, or helpless. I am not thrown into a quivering state of feminine horror when a man talks about sex in front of me. Or if he tells me I have nice tits.

Knock it off, sisters - or stay out of the workplace. Men are sick of catering to you, ...


Preach it, Sister! I wish I could vote the "smart" button more than once for your post.

Oh, and welcome to my favorites.
 
2012-08-26 10:42:33 AM  

MadAzza: Knock it off, sisters - or stay out of the workplace. Men are sick of catering to you, and I'm sick of them assuming I think like you.


I love you so much now. And not in a sexual way.
 
2012-08-26 10:54:03 AM  

Oh_Enough_Already: Fair enough, but any man who went to HR to complain about you doing so would either be A) Laughed out of the office, or B) Charged with harassment himself for talking about what you talked about in front of him.

So, you know, there's that.


Which means you just won the workplace harassment suit lottery. What's the problem?

Anyway, your concept of "HR" as anything but a whole department dedicated to preventing lawsuits is about 30 years out of date. The only situation I've ever seen your scenario happen is when the owner of the company is HR.
 
2012-08-26 10:55:26 AM  

Oh_Enough_Already: KiplingKat872: In the spirit of full equality, I expect all men to welcome conversation about my menstrual cycle, including days and flow consistancy.

There is such a thing as a time and place for everything, as well as TMI. Discussing the physical details of your sex life with people who have expressed no interest, from your co-workers to people on the train, is just creepy.
The internet has made a lot of people assume that everyone is intetested in the deepest most down and dirty details of their personal lives, but that just does not translate into the real world. If my best friend wants to discuss what is happening in the bedroom, cool. But I am really not interested in what my co-workers sex lives are like, male or female.

As for how she handled this, he was the council member and she worked in his office, meaning he wasn't a co-worker. He was her boss. That puts a different spin on this situation.

And maybe she did ask him to STFU and he didn't. Someone with that level of trouble with common discretion usually does not respond to polite requests.

Fair enough, but any man who went to HR to complain about you doing so would either be A) Laughed out of the office, or B) Charged with harassment himself for talking about what you talked about in front of him.

So, you know, there's that.


No, he wouldn't. Not in any of the places I have worked since I left the food service industry. I would be yanked into my manager or HR's office and given a talking to about appropriate behavior. If I persisted, I would face penalties. Where I work now (a university) I could be fired.
 
2012-08-26 10:58:22 AM  

Oh_Enough_Already: KiplingKat872: In the spirit of full equality, I expect all men to welcome conversation about my menstrual cycle, including days and flow consistancy.

There is such a thing as a time and place for everything, as well as TMI. Discussing the physical details of your sex life with people who have expressed no interest, from your co-workers to people on the train, is just creepy.
The internet has made a lot of people assume that everyone is intetested in the deepest most down and dirty details of their personal lives, but that just does not translate into the real world. If my best friend wants to discuss what is happening in the bedroom, cool. But I am really not interested in what my co-workers sex lives are like, male or female.

As for how she handled this, he was the council member and she worked in his office, meaning he wasn't a co-worker. He was her boss. That puts a different spin on this situation.

And maybe she did ask him to STFU and he didn't. Someone with that level of trouble with common discretion usually does not respond to polite requests.

Fair enough, but any man who went to HR to complain about you doing so would either be A) Laughed out of the office, or B) Charged with harassment himself for talking about what you talked about in front of him.

So, you know, there's that.


Hell, when I yelled at someone in another department it wound up on my yearly review. You think I could violate work place protocol by insisting on talking about my menstral flow and get away with it?
 
2012-08-26 11:01:07 AM  

spazzhappy: NickelP: How do you do this anyways? Is this something that happens when you put a magnum xxl on your small wiener? I've broke condoms but never had one just 'fall off'.

Rather easy if you think about it... After climax, it's not uncommon to quickly lose your erection. As that happens, sometimes the penis shrivels up like a scared turtle and when you pull out *slip* it's off and still in the ol' baby-maker..


This. Always pull out as soon as you're done, guys, never mind about leaving her on the brink.
 
2012-08-26 11:07:52 AM  
This entire thread is stupid.
 
2012-08-26 11:08:09 AM  
This is kinda like the issue Im dealing with at work now. For the longest time the men and women I worked with were all just the "guys" Crack a joke about someones sexuality, mom, dating life whatever and laughs were had by all. Then against my wishes the boss hired a clients relative and she is a bible thumper. Now everyone is walking on eggshells. Hell one time she complained to me because a couple of the guys called each other girls and she thought that was "mean". But I have had to shut her down a few times because she has been bugging people about going to her church. She was bugging me for details about this girl I was dating and I pretty much told her that is not an appropriate workplace topic. 
Ive tried to give her duties soooooo easy even a first day person cant fark em up but she manages. One day she farked up something so simple I told her to pay attention and pull her head out of her ass. She then went on to explain to me how a womans body is a sacred thing yadda yadda. I just looked at her and said its a metaphor and walked away while she droned on.
 
2012-08-26 11:08:20 AM  
Ages ago, I had the pleasure of working with a slim, lovely Jewish princess whose name was "Charmin." Seriously. This coquettish ditz told me all about her sexual frustration; how her hubby was always too tired, and all the titillating things she'd tried to get him interested.

I was just getting interested myself, when she mentioned hubby was a cop. Shut down that impulse in a hurry!
 
2012-08-26 11:14:08 AM  
I dont wanna hear about erectile disfunction nor trans vaginal meshes over my morning cheerios, but such is the state of decorum in america today
 
2012-08-26 11:20:28 AM  

MadAzza: Oh, for fark's sake.

FTA: (The city manager) claimed Marchione talked about his sex life including a "detailed discussion about his condom coming off during sex and his fear that he impregnated the woman; although he went on to state that he didn't think he got any (sperm) in her."
"Just because he didn't grope anyone and didn't physically do anything doesn't mean it wasn't harassment," said (council member) Gusse.

And you sat there and listened to it. Why did YOU not walk away, or simply tell him to stop?

The idea behind "talking about sex = sexual harassment" is inherently sexist. It's based on the myth that women are lesser, delicate creatures who need to be protected from discussions about sex (but only when those discussions are instigated by or include men).

It further assumes that women are too weak to say, "Shut up, jerkbag," to men whose conversation offends their delicate sensibilities, and that these helpless women need the protection of a paternal figure - the state (i.e., government representative, office or agency), via their employer's human resources department.

It's Victorian, it insults all women, and it pisses me off. I don't need the government's or my employer's protection from a guy acting like a guy. Furthermore, a guy has every right to act like a guy. The world does not have to cater to me because I have a vagina. My vagina doesn't render me mute, or helpless. I am not thrown into a quivering state of feminine horror when a man talks about sex in front of me. Or if he tells me I have nice tits.

Knock it off, sisters - or stay out of the workplace. Men are sick of catering to you, and I'm sick of them assuming I think like you.


Best. Profile. Read, Ever.
 
2012-08-26 11:29:40 AM  

vudukungfu: It's based on the myth that women are lesser, delicate creatures who need to be protected from discussions about sex


only if you don't think there are men out there who are too timid or passive to act on problems that they would be wholly in the right to try solving, and shouldn't have to deal with in the first place
 
2012-08-26 11:50:57 AM  
Seems a rule at every gangbang that the smallest cock is the one sporting a Magnum.
 
2012-08-26 11:54:55 AM  
Every thread like this one makes me more grateful that I've worked at home for decades. I wouldn't want to put up with the shiat that many have described here.

"Excuse me, I have work to do" is a cop-out.

"Your behavior is inappropriate" invites defensive rationalizations and conflict.

"I don't want to hear that stuff" should be sufficient.
 
2012-08-26 12:11:16 PM  

MadAzza: Oh, for fark's sake.

FTA: (The city manager) claimed Marchione talked about his sex life including a "detailed discussion about his condom coming off during sex and his fear that he impregnated the woman; although he went on to state that he didn't think he got any (sperm) in her."
"Just because he didn't grope anyone and didn't physically do anything doesn't mean it wasn't harassment," said (council member) Gusse.

And you sat there and listened to it. Why did YOU not walk away, or simply tell him to stop?

The idea behind "talking about sex = sexual harassment" is inherently sexist. It's based on the myth that women are lesser, delicate creatures who need to be protected from discussions about sex (but only when those discussions are instigated by or include men).

It further assumes that women are too weak to say, "Shut up, jerkbag," to men whose conversation offends their delicate sensibilities, and that these helpless women need the protection of a paternal figure - the state (i.e., government representative, office or agency), via their employer's human resources department.

It's Victorian, it insults all women, and it pisses me off. I don't need the government's or my employer's protection from a guy acting like a guy. Furthermore, a guy has every right to act like a guy. The world does not have to cater to me because I have a vagina. My vagina doesn't render me mute, or helpless. I am not thrown into a quivering state of feminine horror when a man talks about sex in front of me. Or if he tells me I have nice tits.

Knock it off, sisters - or stay out of the workplace. Men are sick of catering to you, and I'm sick of them assuming I think like you.


I always say, Thank you; I grew them myself.

/former Piledriver/Welder
//current Brewer
///Boys. Go fig.
 
2012-08-26 12:32:16 PM  

batcookie: doglover: batcookie

You know you wanna hear about my knuckle children. I name them, you know. Here's a picture. That's Allen, Alicia, Andre, Ashley, Alfred, Allana, (several million names later) and Zoffery.

Again, if it's a choice between that and someone talking about the ADORABLE WAY little Timmy pissed all over himself yesterday... Yeah, the knuckle children are preferable.

wambu: MadAzza: The world does not have to cater to me because I have a vagina.

But I assume it's OK when it does?

Can't speak for her, but personally I get very pissed when I'm treated differently in any way based on the fact that I have a vagina. So no.


If you gentlemen feel compelled to perform heavy lifting for me because that's how your mama raised you, thank you; you're very kind. Do not take that to mean I can't do it myself. I love when you open doors for me, and I'm really not that crazy about changing tires. You'd think it would make men happier to discover they don't have to do their job and half of someone else's.
 
2012-08-26 01:04:39 PM  

ShannonKW: One of the the most common signs of biased journalsism in recent years is this "calling for" trope.

Don't like somebody? Chances are some other prissy, entitled, twat doesn't like the cut of his jib either; and if she complains about him, you have your chance to author an article that will make it look like all the world has is against him...

Did that dude just piss on your miniature schnauzer after it crossed his property line for the umteenth time? Did the granny across the road exclaim, "I've never seen such vulgarity in all mah born days! Someone should call the police!" You can headline it as:

COMMUNITY CALLS FOR APPREHENSION OF SUBURBAN DEVIANT FOLLOWING EXHIBITIONIST/BESTIALITY INCIDENT

I can't speak for the rest of you farkers, but I can't remember the last time I cared what anybody was "calling for". It's got to the stage that whenever I read about "calls" being made for some stern action in the face of "inappropriate" behavior, I automatically interpret it as meaning that some tender-hearted waster has been offended, and he hopes others will be offended too because he lacks the balls to do anything about it himself.

/pet peeve


I started noticing this about 10 years ago on Democracy Now, when every other story was Amy Goodman claiming the leftist attenion whore du juor was "calling for" such and such.

"Cindy Sheehan calls for pull out from Iraq"
"Al Sharpton calls for jail time of Duke Lacross team"
"Cynthia McKinney calls for investigation into court bailiff"

Every time I heard one of those stories, I would think, who gives a shiat what this moron is "calling for" and what does that even mean!?
 
2012-08-26 01:21:35 PM  

doglover: NickelP: How do you do this anyways? Is this something that happens when you put a magnum xxl on your small wiener? I've broke condoms but never had one just 'fall off'.

I had a girl who would squeeze hard enough to pull them off when she really got into it. It was a shock when it happened the first time.


This!
 
2012-08-26 01:37:27 PM  
I fell asleep right after I posted, then woke up this morning to some very nice responses to my rant.

Thank you!

Off I go to to pick up some OT ...
 
2012-08-26 01:47:27 PM  

ShannonKW: One of the the most common signs of biased journalsism in recent years is this "calling for" trope.


This.

Also, asking for someone else to resign has to be the single most pussy move anyone can ever make.
 
2012-08-26 02:13:30 PM  
I'm actually the most high-brow in my office when in the office. The shiat that comes out of my female coworkers mouths...
 
2012-08-26 02:48:19 PM  

NickelP: Aside from involving sex, it is no different than if he told any story that they found offensive, and it doesn't sound like he was trying to intimidate them with it.


"Intimidate" isn't the word I'd use. Sounds more like he was gauging his female co-worker's interest in his penis and what he does with it. If she doesn't shut down the convo with an obvious "Do not talk to me about your penis and what you do with it," Perv Man will accelerate his efforts because he thinks he's turning her on. Then things will get out of hand and they'll be lucky to live through it.
 
2012-08-26 03:50:46 PM  

MadAzza: Oh, for fark's sake.

FTA: (The city manager) claimed Marchione talked about his sex life including a "detailed discussion about his condom coming off during sex and his fear that he impregnated the woman; although he went on to state that he didn't think he got any (sperm) in her."
"Just because he didn't grope anyone and didn't physically do anything doesn't mean it wasn't harassment," said (council member) Gusse.

And you sat there and listened to it. Why did YOU not walk away, or simply tell him to stop?

The idea behind "talking about sex = sexual harassment" is inherently sexist. It's based on the myth that women are lesser, delicate creatures who need to be protected from discussions about sex (but only when those discussions are instigated by or include men).

It further assumes that women are too weak to say, "Shut up, jerkbag," to men whose conversation offends their delicate sensibilities, and that these helpless women need the protection of a paternal figure - the state (i.e., government representative, office or agency), via their employer's human resources department.

It's Victorian, it insults all women, and it pisses me off. I don't need the government's or my employer's protection from a guy acting like a guy. Furthermore, a guy has every right to act like a guy. The world does not have to cater to me because I have a vagina. My vagina doesn't render me mute, or helpless. I am not thrown into a quivering state of feminine horror when a man talks about sex in front of me. Or if he tells me I have nice tits.

Knock it off, sisters - or stay out of the workplace. Men are sick of catering to you, and I'm sick of them assuming I think like you.


Amen sister.
 
2012-08-26 05:20:26 PM  

NickelP: How do you do this anyways? Is this something that happens when you put a magnum xxl on your small wiener? I've broke condoms but never had one just 'fall off'.


Happened to a friend of mine 30 years ago, resulting in a pregnancy and an abortion.

The condom rolled itself back up during sex, and came off the same way it went on.

I'd never heard of it before, either.
 
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