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(Huffington Post)   A visitor to Denali National Park spent eight minutes taking some great pictures of a bear. Unfortunately the bear then turned him into a "food cache"   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 166
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2012-08-25 11:55:21 PM
I hiked that same area last year and didn't see one freakin' bear! Some guys have all the luck.

Not this guy.
 
2012-08-25 11:55:36 PM
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2012-08-25 11:59:05 PM

AcneVulgaris: farking bears! How do they work?


s-ec-sm.buzzfeed.com 

/hot, like bear sex
 
2012-08-26 12:01:14 AM
That asshole!! His blood is filthying up my park. There hasn't been a very serious bear / person encounter in over 20 years. The idiot obviously didn't listen to his backcountry lecture. When I was working there I'd see asshole tourists try to pet moose calves and try to hold porcupines.
 
2012-08-26 12:02:04 AM
Was he delicious?
 
2012-08-26 12:02:08 AM

lordargent: BarkingUnicorn: Legal liability. Belief that an animal which tastes human flesh develops a liking for it. Helps the tourists feel safe.

Humans, much like other carnivores/omnivores, taste a little bitter.

// except for vegetarians


You've tasted both?

I don't share the belief. But it is widespread. Killing an animal that killed a human is demanded by much of society. The "taste for human flesh" thing is how they justify their demand.
 
2012-08-26 12:02:18 AM
Oh man, it would be farking great if he kept taking pics while the bear ran up to him. Best. anigif. ever.
 
2012-08-26 12:03:33 AM

Lsherm: Bathia_Mapes: It pisses the hell out me that this bear is dead because this stupid hiker got too damned close, even though he knew better. He's no better than the idiots who feed bears a Yellowstone which acclimates them to not only being around humans, but ends up with them invading campsites in search of food.

Clearly he DIDN'T know better.


FTFA: "Prior to receiving a permit to hike in the area, all backpackers in the park receive mandatory bear awareness training that teaches them to stay at least a quarter-mile away from bears, and to slowly back away if they find themselves any closer. Investigators confirmed that the hiker had received that training."
 
2012-08-26 12:03:39 AM

joshiz: Why do they have to kill the bear? He was just being a bear and it doesn't bring the hiker back.


The only thing I can think of is that they now have a taste for human meat.
 
2012-08-26 12:04:47 AM

Chinchillazilla: I'm putting in my will that if an animal kills me, please don't kill it. That's stupid.


Your cats are reading this and nodding.
 
2012-08-26 12:06:20 AM
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Never Feed a Marshmallow to a grizzly bear like this.
 
2012-08-26 12:07:00 AM

joshiz: Why do they have to kill the bear? He was just being a bear and it doesn't bring the hiker back.


The bear isn't afraid of people. They try to relocate the bears that have had too much contact with people, but this one decided that people are food. That's an entirely different way of dealing with the threat of people.
 
2012-08-26 12:08:45 AM
It's sobering to reminded every now and then, that while we are the dominant species on this planet, we are NOT at the top of the food chain.
 
2012-08-26 12:10:17 AM

lewismarktwo: Oh man, it would be farking great if he kept taking pics while the bear ran up to him. Best. anigif. ever.


I admit I was kinda hoping that too. I wonder, since it happened on Federal land, could you get them with a Freedom Of Information request?
 
2012-08-26 12:10:23 AM

TheOther: Chinchillazilla: I'm putting in my will that if an animal kills me, please don't kill it. That's stupid.

Your cats are reading this and nodding.


While I'm sleeping, my cat occasionally tenderizes my face at though it were a Kobe steer, presumably in anticipation of my demise.

He'll feed til the food's no good and move on to another sucker family.
 
2012-08-26 12:11:36 AM

some_beer_drinker: AcneVulgaris: farking bears! How do they work?

i dont want to fark any bears. i heard they were dangerous.


With the proper protection, it's actually quite safe.

It's the otters you gotta watch out for.
 
2012-08-26 12:14:06 AM

gadian: joshiz: Why do they have to kill the bear? He was just being a bear and it doesn't bring the hiker back.

The bear isn't afraid of people. They try to relocate the bears that have had too much contact with people, but this one decided that people are food. That's an entirely different way of dealing with the threat of people.


Why in the hell should the bear be afraid of food? When did humans stop thinking their food? It's about time to tell the truth. Soylent green is only a Romney victory away.
 
2012-08-26 12:14:49 AM
I have a friend who told me about how he and his 10-year old son enjoyed picking blackberries a few metres away from a black bear, which was grazing in the same place. Happened a few weeks back. It was "magical" he said. You're a "farking moran," i said. Same guy who canoes without life jackets, drinks water unfiltered/treated from the middle of the lake (where it's "clean") and habitually stores food in his tent.

Love the guy, but he's a complete tard who is gonna get one of his kids killed with his carelessness.
 
2012-08-26 12:16:03 AM

missiv: Why in the hell should the bear be afraid of food? When did humans stop thinking their food? It's about time to tell the truth. Soylent green is only a Romney victory away.


I wasn't saying I agree with it, i was just explaining it.
 
2012-08-26 12:19:34 AM

gadian: missiv: Why in the hell should the bear be afraid of food? When did humans stop thinking their food? It's about time to tell the truth. Soylent green is only a Romney victory away.

I wasn't saying I agree with it, i was just explaining it.


Overstood.

When they said you can't cure stupid, "they" never met a bear. Bears can cure stupid really fast.
 
2012-08-26 12:20:59 AM

jtown: Bathia_Mapes: joshiz: Bathia_Mapes: It pisses the hell out me that this bear is dead

Why do they have to kill the bear? He was just being a bear and it doesn't bring the hiker back.

No, but according to the TFA they have to examine the animal's stomach contents to make sure they got the right bear.



That's some crazy logic they've got going on there. What if the bear doesn't have human meat in it? Do they plan to just keep killing bears until they find one with human in it?

And I still don't understand the point of killing it. Retribution? "He's got a taste for blood now"? Why is it wrong for a bear to kill a creature that invades its territory?

Don't want to be killed by a bear? Stay out of bear country. It's not like the bear came to downtown Anchorage and snatched a baby out of its crib.


People look all big and mean. We often act very brave. Once a predator finds out how easy we are to kill we become the preferred prey. Ever hear of the Ghost and the Darkness?
 
2012-08-26 12:22:24 AM

Bathia_Mapes: It pisses the hell out me that this bear is dead because this stupid hiker got too damned close, even though he knew better. He's no better than the idiots who feed bears a Yellowstone which acclimates them to not only being around humans, but ends up with them invading campsites in search of food.


This. fark the hiker, he did the Eugene pool a favor, but don't kill the bear too.
 
2012-08-26 12:23:23 AM
There's no indication that the man's death was the result of anything other than a bear attack, investigators said, adding that it's the first known fatal mauling in the park's nearly century-long history.

The real tragedy here is that someone's gotta flip that sign that says "95 years and no fatal animal attacks" back to zero.
 
2012-08-26 12:23:25 AM

SurelyShirley: Lsherm: Bathia_Mapes: It pisses the hell out me that this bear is dead because this stupid hiker got too damned close, even though he knew better. He's no better than the idiots who feed bears a Yellowstone which acclimates them to not only being around humans, but ends up with them invading campsites in search of food.

Clearly he DIDN'T know better.

FTFA: "Prior to receiving a permit to hike in the area, all backpackers in the park receive mandatory bear awareness training that teaches them to stay at least a quarter-mile away from bears, and to slowly back away if they find themselves any closer. Investigators confirmed that the hiker had received that training."


You know, I'll admit to not reading the article. Maybe you should admit to not reading the whole thread. We've been through this.
 
2012-08-26 12:24:02 AM

Bathia_Mapes: Actually, he did according to the article. He was given the required bear awareness training. He chose to ignore it and not only did he lose his life, but a bear was destroyed because of his actions.


It almost sounds like you value an angry bear's life more than a stupid human's life.

Both were just acting according to their natures. And both needed to be put down.
 
2012-08-26 12:24:41 AM

LeftOfLiberal: jtown: Bathia_Mapes: joshiz: Bathia_Mapes: It pisses the hell out me that this bear is dead

Why do they have to kill the bear? He was just being a bear and it doesn't bring the hiker back.

No, but according to the TFA they have to examine the animal's stomach contents to make sure they got the right bear.



That's some crazy logic they've got going on there. What if the bear doesn't have human meat in it? Do they plan to just keep killing bears until they find one with human in it?

And I still don't understand the point of killing it. Retribution? "He's got a taste for blood now"? Why is it wrong for a bear to kill a creature that invades its territory?

Don't want to be killed by a bear? Stay out of bear country. It's not like the bear came to downtown Anchorage and snatched a baby out of its crib.

People look all big and mean. We often act very brave. Once a predator finds out how easy we are to kill we become the preferred prey. Ever hear of the Ghost and the Darkness?


Don't want to be killed by a lion? Stay out of lion country.
 
2012-08-26 12:24:58 AM

Meisaims: I think we, as a species, can agree that it's okay to kill a huge predatory animal which has turned one of our own into a "food cache."

That being said, I blame the guy entirely for his and the bear's death. Sads to his family.


Actually, its not ok. At least not in my opinion.
 
2012-08-26 12:26:55 AM

pedrop357: joshiz: Why do they have to kill the bear? He was just being a bear and it doesn't bring the hiker back.

The only thing I can think of is that they now have a taste for human meat.


This is complete and utter bullshiat, fyi
 
2012-08-26 12:27:39 AM

fusillade762: Lsherm: ToxicMunkee: 50 yards? Jesus. That bear probably covered that distance before the guy's brain was able to process what what happening.

That's about 150 feet.

About?


Yeah, that's about 14.4 kilonewtons per hectare in Roman Catholic.
 
2012-08-26 12:30:51 AM

Bathia_Mapes: aninconvenienterection: Correct headline for the article- grizzly unnecessarily killed because stupid human didn't know enough to run away

You might want to RTFA more thoroughly. You don't run away from a bear. You back away slowly.


Correct. It is difficult to draw a bead when running away. 

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2012-08-26 12:32:10 AM

King Something: fusillade762: Lsherm: ToxicMunkee: 50 yards? Jesus. That bear probably covered that distance before the guy's brain was able to process what what happening.

That's about 150 feet.

About?

Yeah, that's about 14.4 kilonewtons per hectare in Roman Catholic.


Bear could cross that in a microfortnight.
 
2012-08-26 12:32:38 AM

BarkingUnicorn: lordargent: BarkingUnicorn: Legal liability. Belief that an animal which tastes human flesh develops a liking for it. Helps the tourists feel safe.

Humans, much like other carnivores/omnivores, taste a little bitter.

// except for vegetarians

You've tasted both?

I don't share the belief. But it is widespread. Killing an animal that killed a human is demanded by much of society. The "taste for human flesh" thing is how they justify their demand.


Don't know if this is an urban legend or not, but supposedly there was some railway construction going on in India back in the day, and a tiger got a liking for human flesh. The tiger would target vegetarian Hindus, even if omnivorous Brits were closer.

If this really happened, did the Hindus actually taste better, or did the British just smell like fellow predators? 

/hiker got what was coming
//bear got torches and pitchforks
 
2012-08-26 12:35:51 AM

BeSerious: He died doing what he loved.


He loved screaming?
 
2012-08-26 12:36:33 AM

jtown: Bathia_Mapes:Don't want to be killed by a bear?

Don't want to be killed by a lion? Stay out of lion country.


Don't want to be killed by humans? Don't eat humans in human country is what I'd say to bears and lions if they understood English.

/it IS our country
//apex predictors
///plus we named it
 
2012-08-26 12:39:10 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Meisaims: I think we, as a species, can agree that it's okay to kill a huge predatory animal which has turned one of our own into a "food cache."

That being said, I blame the guy entirely for his and the bear's death. Sads to his family.

Actually, its not ok. At least not in my opinion.


This might be pertinent, but linking is beyond me.
http://blueridgecountry.com/archive/mary-the-elephant.html
 
2012-08-26 12:39:14 AM

common sense is an oxymoron: /hiker got what was coming
//bear got torches and pitchforks


Why is it when nature punishes stupidity in humans, it is some kind of cosmic fairness to be cheered, but when people punish stupidity in nature, it is some tragedy?

It's pretty stupid to eat a human, if you're a bear. You'll get killed for doing that.
 
2012-08-26 12:44:08 AM

sendtodave: common sense is an oxymoron: /hiker got what was coming
//bear got torches and pitchforks

Why is it when nature punishes stupidity in humans, it is some kind of cosmic fairness to be cheered, but when people punish stupidity in nature, it is some tragedy?

It's pretty stupid to eat a human, if you're a bear. You'll get killed for doing that.


False equivalence unless the bear sat through a lecture on how to behave when grazing in human country, then ignored the lesson.
 
2012-08-26 12:44:31 AM
BIE or it didn't happen. heh.
 
2012-08-26 12:44:56 AM
Now a grizzly is out hunting a state trooper. Bears know once humans get a trill from killing, you have to eat 'em. The cycle of life continues.
 
2012-08-26 12:47:43 AM
+h
 
2012-08-26 12:50:05 AM

common sense is an oxymoron: sendtodave: common sense is an oxymoron: /hiker got what was coming
//bear got torches and pitchforks

Why is it when nature punishes stupidity in humans, it is some kind of cosmic fairness to be cheered, but when people punish stupidity in nature, it is some tragedy?

It's pretty stupid to eat a human, if you're a bear. You'll get killed for doing that.

False equivalence unless the bear sat through a lecture on how to behave when grazing in human country, then ignored the lesson.


Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
 
2012-08-26 12:50:26 AM
It's not like he was gored by a black rhino, for fark's sake. There's more of a market for pet grizzly bears than there is for powdered grizzly penis. They live in ColdFark Nowhere and are pretty safe from corporate incursion. The freaking saltwater crocodile is more likely to go extinct than grizzlies are.
 
2012-08-26 12:50:46 AM

sendtodave: common sense is an oxymoron: /hiker got what was coming
//bear got torches and pitchforks

Why is it when nature punishes stupidity in humans, it is some kind of cosmic fairness to be cheered, but when people punish stupidity in nature, it is some tragedy?

It's pretty stupid to eat a human, if you're a bear. You'll get killed for doing that.


But what purpose does it serve? Are they going to butcher the bear and use the meat to feed homeless people? It doesn't "teach the bears a lesson". It's just senseless. And I'm not some tofu-grazing vegan. I don't consider a meal complete unless some part of it had the potential to run away. (Veal has the potential, just not the opportunity.) But killing an animal just to kill it is psychotic.
 
2012-08-26 12:50:52 AM

common sense is an oxymoron: False equivalence unless the bear sat through a lecture on how to behave when grazing in human country, then ignored the lesson.


You can't prove it didn't.

The burden of proof is yours to ... bear ... i guess.
 
2012-08-26 12:54:13 AM

jtown: But what purpose does it serve?


You're operating under the assumption that things people do have to make sense. It's been shown time and again that we are pretty senseless animals.
 
2012-08-26 12:55:28 AM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: It's not like he was gored by a black rhino, for fark's sake. There's more of a market for pet grizzly bears than there is for powdered grizzly penis. They live in ColdFark Nowhere and are pretty safe from corporate incursion. The freaking saltwater crocodile is more likely to go extinct than grizzlies are.


Point being, if you blast one every hundred years, I think the Denali bear population will get along just fine.
 
2012-08-26 12:56:23 AM

towatchoverme: I have a friend who told me about how he and his 10-year old son enjoyed picking blackberries a few metres away from a black bear, which was grazing in the same place. Happened a few weeks back. It was "magical" he said. You're a "farking moran," i said. Same guy who canoes without life jackets, drinks water unfiltered/treated from the middle of the lake (where it's "clean") and habitually stores food in his tent.

Love the guy, but he's a complete tard who is gonna get one of his kids killed with his carelessness.


Hopefully you'll post a link to the story when it happens. Entertainment is entertainment, after all.
 
2012-08-26 12:57:17 AM

SumoJeb: Bears are much easier to photograph once they are dead. Easier to pet them too.
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At least the hunter went old school. Still, fark him in the ass with a chu-ko-nu.
 
2012-08-26 12:58:22 AM

sendtodave: Bathia_Mapes: Actually, he did according to the article. He was given the required bear awareness training. He chose to ignore it and not only did he lose his life, but a bear was destroyed because of his actions.

It almost sounds like you value an angry bear's life more than a stupid human's life.

Both were just acting according to their natures. And both needed to be put down.


Both the bear and the man would have been alive if the guy had kept his distance as instructed. The guy was intruding on the bear's natural habitat and the bear reacted accordingly.
 
2012-08-26 01:00:23 AM

towatchoverme: The burden of proof is yours to ... bear


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