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2012-08-26 12:07:19 AM  

whatshisname: Great Janitor: And those times when I'm in a mall or a grocery store and I realize that no less than five people in that store are legally carrying a concealed hand gun, I actually feel pretty safe.

Which should scare you. The fact that it doesn't shows just how desensitized to guns the American public has become.


100 people legally carrying concealed hand guns does not scare me.

1 nut job with a gun scares me.
 
2012-08-26 12:07:19 AM  

whatshisname: loonatic112358: it's a tool that can be used for good, or evil just like much of the rest of the things humanity has come up with

Bullshiat. How much of the rest of our technology is specifically designed to kill or incapacitate people if used as directed?


How do you propose people defend themselves in their own homes? I'd rather depend on a weapon than be at the mercy of the criminals that just broke into my house.
 
2012-08-26 12:07:24 AM  

nigeman: Alleyoop: Time travel? I would go back to 9/10/01 and arm some people.

[www.scottbieser.com image 540x540]

how come the terrorists don't have guns in that scenario?


Would you imagine if, in the future, three factions (one to avoid 9/11, another to let it flow, and another to create a bigger mess by taking both sides) had access to time machines? It would be a disaster. Journeyman Project style.
 
2012-08-26 12:07:59 AM  

radiobiz: It shows me how educated much of the American public has come.


47% of the people in your country believe God created humans in their current form sometime in the past 10,000 years. You may have put a man on the moon but your average citizens are not respected around the world for their advanced logic and reasoning skills.
 
2012-08-26 12:08:08 AM  

Lsherm: That's quite possibly the stupidest argument against guns I've ever read.


Is that a challenge? Because you know many will attempt to outdo it.
 
2012-08-26 12:08:14 AM  

TOSViolation: hamdinger: TOSViolation: The Internet is too dangerous of a technology for libtards to have access to.

A-hyuck! Ah believes the gubmint should stay outta people's private lives. And the Constitooshun grants people all sortsa rights to say whatever they want.

Unless they're a dang-ol' librul.


English...do you speak it?


Shucky-ding-dang! I'm just speakin' Teabagger-ese! So we can understand each other!
Don't wanna sound like onna them-thar librul elitists, does we? With all that fancy schoolin' and edukayshun and all them big words.
Hail Palin, bro!
 
2012-08-26 12:08:54 AM  

whatshisname: loonatic112358: it's a tool that can be used for good, or evil just like much of the rest of the things humanity has come up with

Bullshiat. How much of the rest of our technology is specifically designed to kill or incapacitate people if used as directed?


Handguns are piss-poor at killing people. 6 out of 7 people shot with one survive.
 
2012-08-26 12:09:17 AM  
It doesn't matter, guns aren't going anywhere, so suck it gun haters. There's literally nothing you can do about it.

You could prevent murders tho, just not by taking the guns.
 
2012-08-26 12:09:21 AM  

whatshisname: Bullshiat. How much of the rest of our technology is specifically designed to kill or incapacitate people if used as directed?


you realize that thing you're typing on is evolved from a military program right

the rockets that get satellites into space

besides i said tools, a machete is a tool, so is a wrench, so is a car
 
2012-08-26 12:09:23 AM  

Wise_Guy: How do you propose people defend themselves in their own homes?


Move to a country where you don't feel the need to carry a gun all the time?
 
2012-08-26 12:10:05 AM  

RatMaster999: It's also a lot easier to defend yourself with a gun than it is with rolling pin, frying pan, stapler, or paring knife...


Wrong.
 
2012-08-26 12:10:17 AM  

enforcerpsu: GAT_00: violentsalvation: The Supreme Court has ruled that the Second Amendment guarantees someone's right to own a firearm entirely disconnected from any service in a militia. But you are welcome to interpret it anyway you want.

The Supreme Court also once ruled that black people are property.

Just because the USSC says so doesn't mean it's actually right.

This has been argued to death.

The sentence, the way it is written, guarantees a individual right to bear arms.

Oh, and just so you know, you are already in the militia. Every able bodied male 18 and above is part of the USA unorganized militia.

Facts. How do they work?


The right to bear arms is a clause dependent on being in a militia. Militias have no value without organization, because they are unable to be effective. All you have with an unorganized militia is a lynch mob.

And unorganized militia is a contradiction in terms, like compassionate conservatism.
 
2012-08-26 12:10:25 AM  

whatshisname: radiobiz: It shows me how educated much of the American public has come.

47% of the people in your country believe God created humans in their current form sometime in the past 10,000 years. You may have put a man on the moon but your average citizens are not respected around the world for their advanced logic and reasoning skills.


If only we Americans could garner the worldwide respect Canadians do.
 
2012-08-26 12:11:06 AM  

Alleyoop: Time travel? I would go back to 9/10/01 and arm some people.

[www.scottbieser.com image 540x540]


Yes, because people WHO WERE WILLING TO FLY THEMSELVES INTO BUILDINGS AND DIAF were going to smile and go peacefully.
 
2012-08-26 12:11:27 AM  

Farker Soze: Handguns are piss-poor at killing people. 6 out of 7 people shot with one survive.


And only 1 in 100,000 people who have an iPhone thrown at them actually die.
What's your point?
 
2012-08-26 12:11:31 AM  

GAT_00: violentsalvation: GAT_00: violentsalvation: The Supreme Court has ruled that the Second Amendment guarantees someone's right to own a firearm entirely disconnected from any service in a militia. But you are welcome to interpret it anyway you want.

The Supreme Court also once ruled that black people are property.

Just because the USSC says so doesn't mean it's actually right.

Just because you think they got this one wrong doesn't mean you are right.

Well, they pretended the original statement didn't exist, and just focused on the clause to the exclusion of the intent.

And just because you think they got it right doesn't mean you're right either.


The intent is not protected without the clause.

Regardless, I enjoy my second amendment rights and I think the scrotus got it right. If you think they got it wrong you know what you have to do to change what is accepted now.
 
2012-08-26 12:11:35 AM  

whatshisname: Bullshiat. How much of the rest of our technology is specifically designed to kill or incapacitate people if used as directed?


Hmm - it appears that I've spent the last thirty years and thousands of rounds of ammunition horribly misusing my guns, then - I haven't managed to incapacitate or kill a single person yet.

Here's a hint - spend some time actually reading the owner's manuals for various weapons. They're designed to propel a projectile at high speed - nothing more. The actual use (target practice, plinking, hunting, competition, or mass murder) is left up to the user.
 
2012-08-26 12:12:03 AM  

whatshisname: loonatic112358: it's a tool that can be used for good, or evil just like much of the rest of the things humanity has come up with

Bullshiat. How much of the rest of our technology is specifically designed to kill or incapacitate people if used as directed?


I'd be willing to bet quite a bit is descended from various things specifically designed to kill or incapacitate people.

You want me to start?
 
2012-08-26 12:12:06 AM  

whatshisname: Wise_Guy: How do you propose people defend themselves in their own homes?

Move to a country where you don't feel the need to carry a gun all the time?


you really need to stop watching the damn news so much

go outside enjoy your country before winter sets in
 
2012-08-26 12:13:00 AM  

hamdinger: TOSViolation: hamdinger: TOSViolation: The Internet is too dangerous of a technology for libtards to have access to.

A-hyuck! Ah believes the gubmint should stay outta people's private lives. And the Constitooshun grants people all sortsa rights to say whatever they want.

Unless they're a dang-ol' librul.


English...do you speak it?

Shucky-ding-dang! I'm just speakin' Teabagger-ese! So we can understand each other!
Don't wanna sound like onna them-thar librul elitists, does we? With all that fancy schoolin' and edukayshun and all them big words.
Hail Palin, bro!




Wow! You sound way too retarded to own a gun. Maybe you have a point.
 
2012-08-26 12:13:40 AM  

Wise_Guy: Without a gun, explain to me how an elderly woman living alone can protect herself if someone breaks in.

Or should people too weak to put up a fight not be allowed to live on their own?


There was a job interview that I had several years ago. The manager who interviewed me told me that part of my job was to take the cash at closing to the bank at the end of the day after the store closed. I asked "Can I carry a gun with me when I leave with the store's money?" He said "No, employees are forbidden to carry weapons." I said "So, you want me to carry thousands of dollars out of the store and to my car unarmed." He said "That's company policy." I said "So, someone can sit out there in their car, wait for the store to close, leave with the day's cash for the bank, pull a gun on me, take the money and hope I don't get shot." He paused, said nothing. I turned the job down.
 
2012-08-26 12:14:36 AM  

ScottRiqui: Here's a hint - spend some time actually reading the owner's manuals for various weapons. They're designed to propel a projectile at high speed - nothing more.


Guns don't kill people! Bullets do,
 
2012-08-26 12:15:44 AM  

whatshisname: Guns don't kill people! Bullets do,


and knives in the hands of an attacker, and a car with a loose nut behind the wheel
 
2012-08-26 12:16:00 AM  

whatshisname: Farker Soze: Handguns are piss-poor at killing people. 6 out of 7 people shot with one survive.

And only 1 in 100,000 people who have an iPhone thrown at them actually die.
What's your point?


That many? Wow, iPhones are dangerous. Let's ban them.
 
2012-08-26 12:16:17 AM  

loonatic112358: nigeman: So why not make it easier for people to kill each other? Collect your Nobel Prize for amazing logic!

sure, you just need to do it the same way mcveigh did, get you some ammonia nitrate, which is commonly used in farming, and some other ingredients

though if some fool does i hope it blows up in there face


except that having those chemicals is actually controlled. Oops.
 
2012-08-26 12:16:22 AM  

whatshisname: radiobiz: It shows me how educated much of the American public has come.

47% of the people in your country believe God created humans in their current form sometime in the past 10,000 years.


Prove them wrong, tough guy.

You may have put a man on the moon but your average citizens are not respected around the world for their advanced logic and reasoning skills.

Citation needed please. Your country may have two languages but most of the world thinks buying milk in a bag is silly. Oh, and your beer sucks.

This is fun. Let's pull more dumb statements out of our butts and post em.
 
2012-08-26 12:17:35 AM  

loonatic112358: and knives in the hands of an attacker, and a car with a loose nut behind the wheel


I keep reading about those mass stabbings and people mowing down dozens with vehicles.
 
2012-08-26 12:17:42 AM  

whatshisname: Wise_Guy: How do you propose people defend themselves in their own homes?

Move to a country where you don't feel the need to carry a gun all the time?


So you got nothing.

Thanks. That's what I thought.
 
2012-08-26 12:18:45 AM  

GAT_00: The right to bear arms is a clause dependent on being in a militia.


No, it clearly isn't, as all research into original intent points to. Please, disagree with it if you want, but don't lie about it.
 
2012-08-26 12:19:54 AM  

nigeman: loonatic112358: nigeman: So why not make it easier for people to kill each other? Collect your Nobel Prize for amazing logic!

sure, you just need to do it the same way mcveigh did, get you some ammonia nitrate, which is commonly used in farming, and some other ingredients

though if some fool does i hope it blows up in there face

except that having those chemicals is actually controlled. Oops.


Unless, you like.. own a farm or know someone who does or maybe where a farm might be that you could steal it from.
 
2012-08-26 12:20:06 AM  

whatshisname: loonatic112358: and knives in the hands of an attacker, and a car with a loose nut behind the wheel

I keep reading about those mass stabbings and people mowing down dozens with vehicles.


There would be mass stabbings if there were no guns. Check out England.

I think they're in the process of banning sporks as we speak.
 
2012-08-26 12:20:32 AM  

radiobiz: This is fun. Let's pull more dumb statements out of our butts and post em.


Sorry, it's not 47%, it's 46% of Americans believe God created humans in their current form within the last 10000 years.
 
2012-08-26 12:22:24 AM  

Wise_Guy: So you got nothing.

Thanks. That's what I thought.


Perhaps if America tried to end its love affair with guns, everyone wouldn't feel the need to stuff one down their pants when going to the store for some milk?
 
2012-08-26 12:22:58 AM  

nigeman: except that having those chemicals is actually controlled. Oops.


and yet there's been at least 2 fertilizer based bombs i can recall from memory, mcveighs and the 93 attempt to bomb the world trade center

i doubt it was as regulated in the 90's as it is now, but there's still plenty of things in the world that will go boom if mixed together and not all of them require you to show a drivers license
 
2012-08-26 12:23:37 AM  

nigeman: There is absolutely no way to stop people from killing each other. Since the dawn of time a significant portion of human thought and energy has gone into the creation and use of weapons. Making them illegal just makes it harder for law abiding people to get them, it doesn't stop someone already willing to break the law. Nor does it make people less able to kill each other, it just brings knives back into fashion.

So why not make it easier for people to kill each other? Collect your Nobel Prize for amazing logic!


It's the same argument against Prohibition and the Drug War. Making guns illegal does nothing to stop their sale, all it does it take them out of the hands of the law abiding. Trying to ban them will never work, they're too easy to hide, transport, and make. It's better to educate people about responsible gun ownership and put some reasonable restrictions where they can be taken. Look at Chicago for example. Do you really think that if guns vanished the murders would too?

I'll be honest, making it marginally harder for criminals to kill people with firearms isn't worth taking them out of the hands of the public.
 
2012-08-26 12:23:49 AM  
Ahh, my plan worked! I totally went back in time to drink with Drew in 1997 and tell him about this amazing idea for a website that began with F and ended with K.

Lo and behold, I come back to all of these comments!

/Amazing what a little time travel can do
 
2012-08-26 12:25:13 AM  

Farker Soze: GAT_00: The right to bear arms is a clause dependent on being in a militia.

No, it clearly isn't, as all research into original intent points to. Please, disagree with it if you want, but don't lie about it.


I'm sorry I'm capable of understanding how clauses work in English.

violentsalvation: The intent is not protected without the clause.

Regardless, I enjoy my second amendment rights and I think the scrotus got it right. If you think they got it wrong you know what you have to do to change what is accepted now.


I honestly can't tell what you're saying in that first sentence.

And what I have to do to change it involves stopping the NRA from lying to the American people and buying USSC justices and I can't possibly accomplish that.
 
2012-08-26 12:25:25 AM  

whatshisname: loonatic112358: and knives in the hands of an attacker, and a car with a loose nut behind the wheel

I keep reading about those mass stabbings and people mowing down dozens with vehicles.


stabbing

here's one closer to you Link

there's a photo that shows up in fark cycling threads that makes my point regarding vehicles
 
2012-08-26 12:25:42 AM  
Guns are an equalizer in society. When guns are removed, no one can be equal again.

If you want to have every aspect of your life controlled by someone else, get rid of all your guns.
 
2012-08-26 12:27:13 AM  

whatshisname: Perhaps if America tried to end its love affair with guns, everyone wouldn't feel the need to stuff one down their pants when going to the store for some milk?


Over reaching statement much?
 
2012-08-26 12:28:01 AM  

loonatic112358: stabbing

here's one closer to you Link

there's a photo that shows up in fark cycling threads that makes my point regarding vehicles


Do you understand the concepts of scale or frequency?
 
2012-08-26 12:29:06 AM  

whatshisname: radiobiz: This is fun. Let's pull more dumb statements out of our butts and post em.

Sorry, it's not 47%, it's 46% of Americans believe God created humans in their current form within the last 10000 years.


Again, prove them wrong. All you did was post a link to a graphic. Where's the proof? You may not agree with them (neither do I but that's not the point), but you can't prove any differently and your difference in beliefs doesn't make you superior to them.
 
2012-08-26 12:29:28 AM  

whatshisname: Wise_Guy: So you got nothing.

Thanks. That's what I thought.

Perhaps if America tried to end its love affair with guns, everyone wouldn't feel the need to stuff one down their pants when going to the store for some milk?


You need to stop watching so much TV. But I guess there's nothing else to do in Canada so have at it.
 
2012-08-26 12:30:02 AM  

jaytkay: Article was stupid.

But not as stupid as bedwetters who "need" a gun to to drive to 7-11 for a Slurpee.




Moron.
 
2012-08-26 12:31:08 AM  

whatshisname: loonatic112358: stabbing

here's one closer to you Link

there's a photo that shows up in fark cycling threads that makes my point regarding vehicles

Do you understand the concepts of scale or frequency?


Yes. Again, look at England-- you know-- the country that keeps Canada as its biatch?

Yeah, they have had a lot of trouble with stabbings since getting rid of guns. You should look it up while you're snowed in for the next 10 months.
 
2012-08-26 12:31:34 AM  

radiobiz: Again, prove them wrong. All you did was post a link to a graphic. Where's the proof? You may not agree with them (neither do I but that's not the point), but you can't prove any differently


Are you farking insane? Anyone with an IQ higher than room temperature can prove that God did not create humans as-is in the last 10,000 years.
 
2012-08-26 12:31:45 AM  

whatshisname: Do you understand the concepts of scale or frequency?


I do, but i'm wondering if you do
 
2012-08-26 12:32:10 AM  

miss diminutive: Guns are similar to time machines in the same way catapults are to kumquats.

/worst rant ever


This.

I'm as pro gun control as a firearms-worshipper can be, and that article was WAY over the top.
 
2012-08-26 12:32:24 AM  

GAT_00: Farker Soze: GAT_00: The right to bear arms is a clause dependent on being in a militia.

No, it clearly isn't, as all research into original intent points to. Please, disagree with it if you want, but don't lie about it.

I'm sorry I'm capable of understanding how clauses work in English.


Clearly you don't, as the militia part is not a qualifying clause.
 
2012-08-26 12:33:54 AM  
About half of the households in America have at least one gun.

There are about 270 millions guns in the U.S.

There are about 300 million people in the U.S.

There are about 11,500 firearm homicides in the U.S. annually.

Even assuming that each homicide was committed using a different gun (no multiple killings at all), that still means that each year, 99.6% of the firearms in the U.S. *aren't* used to commit a murder.

Also, even the *non-firearm* murder rate for the U.S. is higher than the *total* murder rate for many other Western countries. In short, we don't have a "gun problem" in the U.S. - we have a "homicidal asshole* problem.
 
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