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(Boulder Daily Camera)   Boulder physics professor wants to cancel classes if a student has a concealed weapons permit, saying it would dampen classroom debate. Because everyone knows gunfights often break out during physics debates   (dailycamera.com) divider line 164
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2012-08-25 04:20:22 PM
"The physics professor -- who has said he simply wants his students to feel safe to engage in discussions that could become controversial -- reiterated that the presence of guns in his classroom "would destroy the learning environment."

I would love to know what this guy is teaching!
 
2012-08-25 04:24:56 PM
Ok class, today let's discuss high velocity assault weapons and accuracy

caughtinthemiddleman.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-08-25 04:35:51 PM

hackhix: "The physics professor -- who has said he simply wants his students to feel safe to engage in discussions that could become controversial -- reiterated that the presence of guns in his classroom "would destroy the learning environment."

I would love to know what this guy is teaching!


Ballistics?
 
2012-08-25 04:41:48 PM
"...and then during discussion, Tyffiney started arguing for 26 dimension string theory. Prof. Peterson had already told the biatch 3 times that it doesn't account for massless fermions, so I had to draw on the biatch so she'd shut up."
 
MBK [TotalFark]
2012-08-25 04:43:38 PM
Back in my freshman year of college, I was in one of my many English classes, and we were discussing this short story/poem about young women and beauty.

Something about how "one little comment will send me over the edge, into anorexia or worse" or something like that. A typical "white woman in her early 20s problem" poem.

I made a comment about "If one little comment can send her into the extreme of anorexia or worse, how is she going to deal with criticism later in life?"

Then this girl (this class had a 3:1 female to male ratio) said "Obviously, you aren't a female".

To which I replied "Obviously I'm not. What gave it away?"

Now, if she had a concealed weapon, she would have shot me dead. SHOT ME DEAD. And people would have applauded.

That is how intense English poetry discussions are.
 
2012-08-25 04:48:02 PM
If someone is carrying concealed, how's he going to know?
 
2012-08-25 04:49:37 PM
"...Then Prof. Peterson got up in my face and said 'You idiot, bosons are massless!'. Last month, I would have punched his ass out, but last week he told us if we were carrying he was going to carry too and he's been open carrying a 45 with a 17 round magazine so I just sat down. He shot Tyffiney in the kneecap and then we started our in class exercises on gauge theory."
 
2012-08-25 04:56:43 PM
I used to teach college biology, we used to have spirited debates regarding evolution vs. creationism. Not that it would ever devolve into gunplay, but I certainly wouldn't want a firearm in class.
 
2012-08-25 05:07:40 PM
Well, I'd suspect that he might mention that the universe is older than 6000 years, which for some students, is worth a shootin'.

My job is worse (I teach evolution; also a class on sex - always lots of calmness there).

I too would not want a firearm in class (have had them in class, have had an armed student threaten another student - about both an opinion and about his own cheating; cops ultimately dealt with it; not a safe learning environment).

Permits - fine, actual firearms, no.
 
2012-08-25 05:07:40 PM
Well none of the bloodbaths over parking spaces and road rage that the anti-gunners predicted occurred when concealed carry was legalized in all but 1 state. None of the bloodbaths the anti-gunners predicted happened when concealed carry in bars was legalized. So clearly they can't be wrong and there will be bloodbaths in the classroom over coarse material now that concealed carry has been legalized there.
 
2012-08-25 05:08:49 PM

namegoeshere: If someone is carrying concealed, how's he going to know?


I'm picturing myself with one of those metal detector wands the TSA uses.
 
2012-08-25 05:12:25 PM

Callous: Well none of the bloodbaths over parking spaces and road rage that the anti-gunners predicted occurred when concealed carry was legalized in all but 1 state. None of the bloodbaths the anti-gunners predicted happened when concealed carry in bars was legalized. So clearly they can't be wrong and there will be bloodbaths in the classroom over coarse material now that concealed carry has been legalized there.


Well, some very anal people attend school. They might not like the fact that you confused course and coarse. Would they shoot you over it? It's a lot like road rage, and here, there are road rage shootings almost weekly. They would occur with or without permits.
 
2012-08-25 05:57:14 PM
He's got it backwards- the classroom needs more guns, not less. Gun-saturated environments keep everyone on level ground, so no one has an advantage. This type of gun saturation is the reason there is never any violence inside gangs.
 
2012-08-25 06:13:55 PM
Jeez, in physics, I learned how to build a hovercraft cheaply. If there was a gun in class, our teacher would take us to the rifle range and show off Newton's laws.
 
2012-08-25 06:15:07 PM
Sure he can refuse to teach. The university can refuse to pay him a paycheck or benefits too and should if he refuses.

/ guns make him feeeeel icky
// yucky, yucky guns, ooooooh
 
2012-08-25 06:15:55 PM

namegoeshere: If someone is carrying concealed, how's he going to know?


As I am actually going to CU, this whole thing makes me laugh. If it's concealed, who knows it's there?

Engineering students don't care. As long at it doesn't mess with their homework time.
 
2012-08-25 06:16:31 PM
There were physical fights among geologists in the early days of plate tectonics.
 
2012-08-25 06:17:21 PM

Atypical Person Reading Fark: I too would not want a firearm in class (have had them in class, have had an armed student threaten another student - about both an opinion and about his own cheating; cops ultimately dealt with it; not a safe learning environment).


At which university where licensed students are permitted to carry firearms on campus did this incident occur?
 
2012-08-25 06:17:42 PM
I carried every day in class, and I never killed anybody.
 
2012-08-25 06:18:26 PM

Callous: Well none of the bloodbaths over parking spaces and road rage that the anti-gunners predicted occurred when concealed carry was legalized in all but 1 state. None of the bloodbaths the anti-gunners predicted happened when concealed carry in bars was legalized. So clearly they can't be wrong and there will be bloodbaths in the classroom over coarse material now that concealed carry has been legalized there.


But if another Cho shows up, you'll have an Old WestTM shootout with lots of innocents killed in the crossfire, as opposed to simply getting lined up and executed. Sure they'll be just as dead, but it's better that the nutter executes them than someone accidentally get shot in the crossfire.

/ or something like that that I learnt on ABC
 
2012-08-25 06:18:37 PM

Callous: Well none of the bloodbaths over parking spaces and road rage that the anti-gunners predicted occurred when concealed carry was legalized in all but 1 state. None of the bloodbaths the anti-gunners predicted happened when concealed carry in bars was legalized. So clearly they can't be wrong and there will be bloodbaths in the classroom over coarse material now that concealed carry has been legalized there.


Opposition to allowing licensed individuals to legally carry concealed firearms through a "shall-issue" based permit system is a faith-based measure. Supporting data, while convenient if available, is ultimately secondary to what opponents "know in their hearts" to be true.
 
2012-08-25 06:18:50 PM

the_innkeeper: namegoeshere: If someone is carrying concealed, how's he going to know?

As I am actually going to CU, this whole thing makes me laugh. If it's concealed, who knows it's there?

Engineering students don't care. As long at it doesn't mess with their homework time.


side, the engineer will just make a sentry gun anyhow
 
2012-08-25 06:19:05 PM
Speaking as someone who had a fight break out in his college physics course, I'm getting a kick out of this headline subby.

/Apparently one guy hassled another guy's date at the Brownian dance
 
2012-08-25 06:19:26 PM

namegoeshere: If someone is carrying concealed, how's he going to know?


The professor is actually...
scifipulse.net

/he smells gun oil.
 
2012-08-25 06:22:17 PM

Pray 4 Mojo: What the hell is boulder physics?


img594.imageshack.us

It's taught in the Fashion Department. Has to do with development of new, stronger clothing materials.
 
2012-08-25 06:23:31 PM
You stupid farking people deserve this bullshiat.
 
2012-08-25 06:24:56 PM

Nick Nostril: Callous: Well none of the bloodbaths over parking spaces and road rage that the anti-gunners predicted occurred when concealed carry was legalized in all but 1 state. None of the bloodbaths the anti-gunners predicted happened when concealed carry in bars was legalized. So clearly they can't be wrong and there will be bloodbaths in the classroom over coarse material now that concealed carry has been legalized there.

But if another Cho shows up, you'll have an Old WestTM shootout with lots of innocents killed in the crossfire, as opposed to simply getting lined up and executed. Sure they'll be just as dead, but it's better that the nutter executes them than someone accidentally get shot in the crossfire.

/ or something like that that I learnt on ABC


Yes, this is why we should leave those things to the police, so that no innocent bystanders get hurt.
 
2012-08-25 06:25:13 PM

Nick Nostril: Callous: Well none of the bloodbaths over parking spaces and road rage that the anti-gunners predicted occurred when concealed carry was legalized in all but 1 state. None of the bloodbaths the anti-gunners predicted happened when concealed carry in bars was legalized. So clearly they can't be wrong and there will be bloodbaths in the classroom over coarse material now that concealed carry has been legalized there.

But if another Cho shows up, you'll have an Old WestTM shootout with lots of innocents killed in the crossfire, as opposed to simply getting lined up and executed. Sure they'll be just as dead, but it's better that the nutter executes them than someone accidentally get shot in the crossfire.

/ or something like that that I learnt on ABC


I am unaware of any ABC news report that concluded as you have stated. I am aware of an ABC news report that indicated that a shooter who has been informed in advance of the identity of a single armed student who has undertaken no firearms usage training will be able to target and shoot that armed student, thus proving that an armed civilian will never, under any circumstances, be able to stop an armed attacker.
 
2012-08-25 06:25:22 PM

People_are_Idiots: Jeez, in physics, I learned how to build a hovercraft cheaply


Did you fill it with eels?
 
2012-08-25 06:26:38 PM
Gun nut thread! These can be as good as poop threads.
 
2012-08-25 06:28:14 PM
I lived in Boulder for three years - the professors there would cancel a class if a caterpillar was stepped on.
 
2012-08-25 06:29:11 PM
Does this professor have a concealed pussy permit? 'Cause he needs one.
 
2012-08-25 06:29:25 PM

Pray 4 Mojo: What the hell is boulder physics?


fc05.deviantart.net
 
2012-08-25 06:30:25 PM
I don't the professor is necessarily wrong. Lots of people have short fuses, and are easily offended by small shiat. Whether someone has a concealed weapons permit isn't really the point. If someone is carrying a gun around, I would ask myself why they feel the need to. How do I know that this person is reasonable, and not likely to go off the deep end If I say something about his mother, or about how much I hate the Cowboys, or whether tea partiers are a lunatic fringe group unworthy of respect?
 
2012-08-25 06:31:14 PM

the_chief: I carried every day in class, and I never killed anybody.


Do you need to carry a large liability insurance policy? Why do you feel the need to carry a gun to school?
 
2012-08-25 06:31:28 PM
Guns skew results.. If Schrodinger's cat was packing, do you think Schrodinger would have ever got him into the box? No way! He would have had to stuff that mouthy coont Tyffiney in there and everybody would hear her and know she was still alive. Experiment ruined.
 
2012-08-25 06:31:38 PM
Ironically - Boulder is the home of the first Promise Keepers conference. While walking down the road with two women that I worked with we were stopped by two "promise keepers" who started asking us questions. One of them didn't like the answers that one of the women was giving and asked "what does your husband say about this?". She responded "she doesn't have a problem" and grabbed the other woman and kissed her. They literally dropped to the cement and started praying.

/I like to imagine they broke their knees when they did that
 
2012-08-25 06:31:53 PM

Atypical Person Reading Fark:
Permits - fine, actual firearms, no.


I don't think you really understand the purpose of the permit.

/I'll cut you some slack since you've taught college. Evidently, you don't have what it takes to cut it in the real world.
 
2012-08-25 06:34:03 PM
Newtonian thoeries do not work at the subatomic level!! String theory is flawed!!! Cover me! BANG! BANG! BANG!
 
2012-08-25 06:34:46 PM

Dimensio: Nick Nostril: Callous: Well none of the bloodbaths over parking spaces and road rage that the anti-gunners predicted occurred when concealed carry was legalized in all but 1 state. None of the bloodbaths the anti-gunners predicted happened when concealed carry in bars was legalized. So clearly they can't be wrong and there will be bloodbaths in the classroom over coarse material now that concealed carry has been legalized there.

But if another Cho shows up, you'll have an Old WestTM shootout with lots of innocents killed in the crossfire, as opposed to simply getting lined up and executed. Sure they'll be just as dead, but it's better that the nutter executes them than someone accidentally get shot in the crossfire.

/ or something like that that I learnt on ABC

I am unaware of any ABC news report that concluded as you have stated. I am aware of an ABC news report that indicated that a shooter who has been informed in advance of the identity of a single armed student who has undertaken no firearms usage training will be able to target and shoot that armed student, thus proving that an armed civilian will never, under any circumstances, be able to stop an armed attacker.


That was breathtakingly funny to watch the report. So, you're saying that a professionally trained shooter with exact knowledge of who is armed in the classroom is somehow able to shoot them before they can draw? Really? Amazing!

// I kept screaming; let's try this with an equally untrained shooter and give them zero knowledge that anyone in the classroom might be carrying concealed. Now, let's watch what happens....
 
2012-08-25 06:35:56 PM

hackhix: Ok class, today let's discuss high velocity assault weapons and accuracy

[caughtinthemiddleman.files.wordpress.com image 454x338]


Wait, why would someone put a long-range scope on a short-barreled Galil? That makes no sense.
 
2012-08-25 06:36:09 PM
Hmmm... Debate, physics, science... I guess a chemistry vs physics joke might work.

www.webelements.com
 
2012-08-25 06:41:43 PM

Harry_Seldon: the_chief: I carried every day in class, and I never killed anybody.

Do you need to carry a large liability insurance policy? Why do you feel the need to carry a gun to school?


Depends on the campus. Nice little liberal arts college in its own community in what passes for the middle of nowhere in the Northeast? Probably don't need to.

University in a bad neighborhood in a major city, especially if you have an early morning or night class? You bet I'm as armed as I legally can be.
 
2012-08-25 06:42:01 PM

Dimensio: Nick Nostril: Callous: Well none of the bloodbaths over parking spaces and road rage that the anti-gunners predicted occurred when concealed carry was legalized in all but 1 state. None of the bloodbaths the anti-gunners predicted happened when concealed carry in bars was legalized. So clearly they can't be wrong and there will be bloodbaths in the classroom over coarse material now that concealed carry has been legalized there.

But if another Cho shows up, you'll have an Old WestTM shootout with lots of innocents killed in the crossfire, as opposed to simply getting lined up and executed. Sure they'll be just as dead, but it's better that the nutter executes them than someone accidentally get shot in the crossfire.

/ or something like that that I learnt on ABC

I am unaware of any ABC news report that concluded as you have stated. I am aware of an ABC news report that indicated that a shooter who has been informed in advance of the identity of a single armed student who has undertaken no firearms usage training will be able to target and shoot that armed student, thus proving that an armed civilian will never, under any circumstances, be able to stop an armed attacker.


That is why I refuse to wear my "I am carrying a concealed weapon" sandwich board when I leave my house. I bet that throws off ABC's "findings".
 
2012-08-25 06:43:13 PM
Guns don't kill people, Physics kills people.
 
2012-08-25 06:45:02 PM
www.infobarrel.com

Actually, if you try to argue electron flow as the "correct" direction for the arrow in a circuit with an engineer, there WILL be a fight with any and all weapons within arm's reach.
 
2012-08-25 06:47:55 PM
i50.tinypic.com
 
2012-08-25 06:49:51 PM

State_College_Arsonist: hackhix: Ok class, today let's discuss high velocity assault weapons and accuracy

[caughtinthemiddleman.files.wordpress.com image 454x338]

Wait, why would someone put a long-range scope on a short-barreled Galil? That makes no sense.


Because it's tacticool.
 
2012-08-25 06:50:13 PM

Albert911emt: If someone is carrying a gun around, I would ask myself why they feel the need to.


To a man with a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.
 
2012-08-25 06:50:43 PM
It is a good thing people don't really cling to guns and religion in this country. Otherwise, this professor's concerns would be totally baseless.
 
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