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2012-08-25 05:17:42 PM  
It has velcro on the back that sticks you to the seat, so you're perfectly safe.
 
2012-08-25 05:31:38 PM  
I urge as many of you as possible not to wear seatbelts, and also motorcycle helmets. It makes the cost of health insurance go down for everyone else as we don't have to spend all of that money on your recuperation after a crash.
 
2012-08-25 05:32:22 PM  
I did this design years ago in a 'Invent a new product' Photoshop contest.
 
2012-08-25 06:09:00 PM  
that's not going to stop you from flying through the windshield.
 
2012-08-25 06:50:10 PM  
Wow, the Chinese really are becoming just like us Americans!
 
2012-08-25 07:25:13 PM  
Because wearing a special t-shirt every day is easier than just buckling your goddamn seat belt?
 
2012-08-25 07:27:01 PM  
This will go great with the airbag I painted on my steering wheel.
 
2012-08-25 07:59:15 PM  

MacEnvy: I urge as many of you as possible not to wear seatbelts, and also motorcycle helmets. It makes the cost of health insurance go down for everyone else as we don't have to spend all of that money on your recuperation after a crash.


That's right. Except the opposite of that.
 
2012-08-25 08:03:47 PM  
Umm - I'm sorry....but that is RETARDED.

the failure to wear seat belts remains the 3rd-leading cause of traffic accident fatalities

That is the stupidest thing ever. Nobody dies from NOT wearing a seat belt. Nobody. Saying otherwise is nothing short of propaganda.
 
2012-08-25 08:06:43 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Umm - I'm sorry....but that is RETARDED.

the failure to wear seat belts remains the 3rd-leading cause of traffic accident fatalities

That is the stupidest thing ever. Nobody dies from NOT wearing a seat belt. Nobody. Saying otherwise is nothing short of propaganda.


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-08-25 08:09:09 PM  
Since I absolutely positively hate wearing a tuxedo, I'll just wear this to my next wedding:

blog.steveskojec.com
 
2012-08-25 08:11:09 PM  
Do they have anything for condoms?
 
2012-08-25 08:18:55 PM  
Not for nuthin' but the cause of my mother-in-law's death was the seatbelt tearing her aorta from the rest of her heart in a head on collision.
/wears one
 
2012-08-25 08:20:25 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Umm - I'm sorry....but that is RETARDED.

the failure to wear seat belts remains the 3rd-leading cause of traffic accident fatalities

That is the stupidest thing ever. Nobody dies from NOT wearing a seat belt. Nobody. Saying otherwise is nothing short of propaganda.


True. They die from going headfirst into the windshield during a crash, which the seat belt is designed to prevent.

Cause of death is the crash and secondary impact. Seat belt has no contributing factor to the death at all.

/is that how InsaneTrollLogic works?
 
2012-08-25 08:21:38 PM  

laid back w/bud light: Not for nuthin' but the cause of my mother-in-law's death was the seatbelt tearing her aorta from the rest of her heart in a head on collision.
/wears one


I'm sure she would have been just fine had she not worn one. Maybe even would have been able to play the violin.
 
2012-08-25 08:25:21 PM  
Wasn't this a Gallagher or Carrot Top joke from years ago?
 
2012-08-25 08:27:40 PM  

Godscrack: I did this design years ago in a 'Invent a new product' Photoshop contest.


Knobbs: Wasn't this a Gallagher or Carrot Top joke from years ago?


There's no way these can be true.

I thought of this 6 year ago but couldn't get the funding. :P
 
2012-08-25 08:31:17 PM  
I'm pretty sure the airbag would not have torn her heart in two. Biggest problem was she was in a Hyaundai.
 
2012-08-25 08:32:49 PM  

WordsnCollision: Since I absolutely positively hate wearing a tuxedo, I'll just wear this to my next wedding:

[blog.steveskojec.com image 300x300]


Sadly enough my brother wore shirts like that...

/I was so glad when my parents kicked him out of the house!
 
2012-08-25 08:34:59 PM  

WordsnCollision: Since I absolutely positively hate wearing a tuxedo, I'll just wear this to my next wedding:

[blog.steveskojec.com image 300x300]


Yeah, I hate getting checked out at the doctors office, so I'll just wear this:
i.imgur.com
 
2012-08-25 08:37:21 PM  

gameshowhost: laid back w/bud light: Not for nuthin' but the cause of my mother-in-law's death was the seatbelt tearing her aorta from the rest of her heart in a head on collision.
/wears one

I'm sure she would have been just fine had she not worn one. Maybe even would have been able to play the violin.


aww. i always wanted to learn how to play violin.
 
2012-08-25 08:42:02 PM  
PSA: I'm the last person to know anything, so you probably all know this. Apart from wearing your farking seatbelt, you need to change your hands on the steering wheel. You shouldn't have them at the "ten to two" position. "Twenty after four" is safer. I am completely too lazy to provide a citation, but the article was from a reasonably reputable source.

When the airbag in your steering wheel deflates, apparently it can amputate your hands at the 1:40PM position. And these injuries have become common enough to merit a recommendation that you drop that practice. Also, I remember that TFA said there was another injury caused by having your hands in the wrong place on the steering wheel. It resulted in something called de-gloving, and the article said it was too gruesome to describe.  Found the article. /PSA
 
2012-08-25 08:43:14 PM  
I remember seeing those for sale at a number of stores in the '80s when the whole seat belt deal started popping in in the US.
 
2012-08-25 08:56:51 PM  

ElizaDoolittle: You shouldn't have them at the "ten to two" position. "Twenty after four" is safer.


Twenty after four? Is this supposed to be a funny 4-20 reference? Or did you mean twenty to five? Your linked article says 3 and 9 are safe, as is 8 and 4 (which would be 4:40)...
 
2012-08-25 09:01:27 PM  

Hector Remarkable: Yeah, I hate getting checked out at the doctors office, so I'll just wear this


Yeah but you'd have to wear the more accurate one.

www.founditemclothing.com
 
2012-08-25 09:04:34 PM  

Ishidan: Fark_Guy_Rob: Umm - I'm sorry....but that is RETARDED.

the failure to wear seat belts remains the 3rd-leading cause of traffic accident fatalities

That is the stupidest thing ever. Nobody dies from NOT wearing a seat belt. Nobody. Saying otherwise is nothing short of propaganda.

True. They die from going headfirst into the windshield during a crash, which the seat belt is designed to prevent.

Cause of death is the crash and secondary impact. Seat belt has no contributing factor to the death at all.

/is that how InsaneTrollLogic works?


Wearing a seat belt is no guarantee of safety. People who wear them *still* die in car accidents. In any particular car accident involving a fatality, how exactly do you determine whether or not a seat belt would have prevent death and/or injury? There are quite a few studies that even suggest wearing seat belts don't really net us much at all in terms of safety, for various reasons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seat_belt#Risk_compensation
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1564465,00.html

I'm certainly not anti-seat belt. Personally, I choose to wear one. But to claim that *not* wearing a seat belt *causes* death (and that it's the THIRD leading cause, behind speeding and drunk driving) is pretty dishonest, IMHO. Speeding has been shown to have a direct influence over someone's ability to safely navigate a roadway *and* increased speeds result in increased forces in a collision. Sure, you can say that speeding causes fatalities. Drunk driving - sure. We all know that delayed reaction time and poor judgement can be contributing factors in a crash that results in death.

But....not wearing a seat belt?

Come'on.

Not only does it not negatively impact your ability to drive or respond to road conditions - data suggests that people without a seat belt drive *MORE CAUTIOUSLY*
Similarly, a study of habitual non-seatbelt wearers driving in freeway conditions found evidence that they had adapted to seatbelt use by adopting higher driving speeds and closer following distances

Not wearing a seat belt certainly doesn't contribute to getting into an accident. People are saying it causes death in the sense that 'maybe' it would have prevented it? That's awfully misleading. Looking at statistics from the US - http://www.edgarsnyder.com/car-accident/car-accident-statistics.html
More than half (51%) of those killed in crashes in 2010 weren't wearing a seat belt.

Now - 51% is AWFULLY close to half. 51% of those killed weren't wearing a seat belt. FORTY NINE PERCENT were.

It would take a whole lot of research and a lot of information we couldn't possible know - to determine what percentage of that 51% who died without a seat belt WOULD have lived IF they were wearing a seat belt. But that's too complicated and honest to admit. So, instead - we take all 51% and say - not wearing seat belts killed them. And it's the 3rd leading cause of motor vehicle related death.
 
2012-08-25 09:19:05 PM  

ElizaDoolittle:
When the airbag in your steering wheel deflates, apparently it can amputate your hands at the 1:40PM position.


www.thewoodshop.20m.com 

Put one hand just to the right of the 1 and the other one on the 8.
 
2012-08-25 09:23:40 PM  

mudpants: ElizaDoolittle:
When the airbag in your steering wheel deflates, apparently it can amputate your hands at the 1:40PM position.

[www.thewoodshop.20m.com image 850x993] 

Put one hand just to the right of the 1 and the other one on the 8.


Now slouch really low and lean way far to the left with just the top of your head touching the very bottom of the driverside window. That's it ! Now you pimpin !
 
2012-08-25 09:26:11 PM  
I imagine you could probably do quite a good public service ad based on this, a nice image of someone with their face smashed to bits still wearing the t-shirt, with a tag line "Seat belt T-shirts, not particularly useful in a car accident"
 
2012-08-25 09:34:16 PM  
 
2012-08-25 09:34:38 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Now - 51% is AWFULLY close to half. 51% of those killed weren't wearing a seat belt. FORTY NINE PERCENT were.

It would take a whole lot of research and a lot of information we couldn't possible know - to determine what percentage of that 51% who died without a seat belt WOULD have lived IF they were wearing a seat belt. But that's too complicated and honest to admit. So, instead - we take all 51% and say - not wearing seat belts killed them. And it's the 3rd leading cause of motor vehicle related death.


Yes, but let's follow this a little further. Would you agree that increased education and seal-belt laws have increased seat belt acceptance and wearing rates? So let's assume that a majority of people do wear seat belts. (Anecdotallty, in my experience most of the people I know wear them).

Second, let's assume that people wearing seat belts get into accidents at approximately the same rate as people not wearing them. This may not be completely accurate, but it's close enough for our purposes.

Finally, let's make up some fake numbers and see where they take us. Assume a population of 100,000 drivers, 100 of whom died in accidents. By your numbers, 51 of those people were not wearing seat belts and 49 were. Also, assume a 90% seat belt use rate. So of our population 90,000 drivers wear them and 10,000 do not. So then:

51 people out 10,000 died: 0.51% fatality rate.
49 people out 90,000 died: 0.054% fatality rate.

That's a whole order of magnitude difference between the two populations. Under this scenario, not wearing a seat belt seems to clearly be significant factor.
 
2012-08-25 09:57:07 PM  
It's true that your internal organs continue the momentum of your body even if the seat belt keeps you from going through the windshield, thus sometimes causing death from internal injury, nothing will prevent that. however, the belt will keep you from flying out a door or going through glass. saying that the cause of death was from not wearing a seatbelt is shorthand for "he wouldn't have died if he'd worn his seatbelt." sure the windshield or flying out the door actually did the deed. so what? in many cases, you wouldn't be dead if you'd worn the belt. that's the bottom line.
 
2012-08-25 10:07:57 PM  

VictoryCabal: Fark_Guy_Rob: Now - 51% is AWFULLY close to half. 51% of those killed weren't wearing a seat belt. FORTY NINE PERCENT were.

It would take a whole lot of research and a lot of information we couldn't possible know - to determine what percentage of that 51% who died without a seat belt WOULD have lived IF they were wearing a seat belt. But that's too complicated and honest to admit. So, instead - we take all 51% and say - not wearing seat belts killed them. And it's the 3rd leading cause of motor vehicle related death.

Yes, but let's follow this a little further. Would you agree that increased education and seal-belt laws have increased seat belt acceptance and wearing rates? So let's assume that a majority of people do wear seat belts. (Anecdotallty, in my experience most of the people I know wear them).

Second, let's assume that people wearing seat belts get into accidents at approximately the same rate as people not wearing them. This may not be completely accurate, but it's close enough for our purposes.

Finally, let's make up some fake numbers and see where they take us. Assume a population of 100,000 drivers, 100 of whom died in accidents. By your numbers, 51 of those people were not wearing seat belts and 49 were. Also, assume a 90% seat belt use rate. So of our population 90,000 drivers wear them and 10,000 do not. So then:

51 people out 10,000 died: 0.51% fatality rate.
49 people out 90,000 died: 0.054% fatality rate.

That's a whole order of magnitude difference between the two populations. Under this scenario, not wearing a seat belt seems to clearly be significant factor.


Aww, I was really hoping someone would go at him from the other direction of his stupidity about how we can never know so we could hear some weapons grade rant about how the Crash Test Dummy industry is a conspiracy to suckle at the government teat. Maybe something about car-fuel not burning hot enough to melt human bone or how shock-meters are based on the "theory" of thermodynamics and unproven.
 
2012-08-25 10:13:12 PM  
I wear seatbelts but only because I was in an accident where I wasn't wearing one. I was driving a nissan 200sx and on a wet roadway went left of center and hit a Dodge ramcharger head on. My head went through the windshield, my left arm shattered the driver's window. I got out of the car not even focused on the pain until I looked down and seen blood everywhere. At the time I seen it coming from my elbow. I was wearing a thick insulated jacket but the glass went through the fabric and nicked the brachial artery. That was the main concern of the emt crew that arrived. They told me later that they were getting ready to call a code because my blood pressure dropped so low. Anyway at the hospital they got me in the trauma room and got the blood to stop. Sister came in and was looking me over. She was like, "You need to see your face you cut it up real bad when you hit the windshield." well she had a pocket mirror and helped me sit up. When I sat up, her face went white. She called the doctor over and said, "did you guys find this?" Apparently when I went through the windshield and came back into the seat, I gave myself a reverse scalping from the back of my head up to the crown all the way down to my skull. when I sat up, the hair and skin flipped up and she saw my skull. (later I seemed to remember a really cool breeze on the back of my head when I did sit up) Anyway, 12 stitches to my elbow and 15 staples to the back of my head and 20 years later, I wear my seat belt.

I even wear my belt when I am driving my big truck. And I always hear conflicting stuff on that, wearing one will kill you in an accident, not wearing one will, etc. I do know since driving I have seen two coworkers have accidents, one was driving a dump truck towing a backhoe, he rolled the truck and was thrown from the vehicle suffering a broken pelvis, femur, and collarbone. Investigators said had he been wearing his belt, he would have been squashed like a grape (after looking at the cab of the truck, most definitely) second one came up over a hill on a dirt road and hit a patch of "washboard" and ended up rolling a tanker sideways down a hill, he was wearing his belt had he not he could have been thrown from the truck and the tanker would rolled over him.


/do know one thing, seat belt or not, small car, big truck or motorcycle, getting hit by a train usually means someone is going to plan for a funeral.
 
2012-08-25 10:23:38 PM  
When I first got my license I didn't usually wear one... then I met an undertaker in the military (at my unit that is), and he saw this. Told me he had just done a funeral for a 25 year old who hadn't been wearing one. I've worn one since and yell at my dad when he doesn't.
 
2012-08-25 10:35:29 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: It would take a whole lot of research and a lot of information we couldn't possible know - to determine what percentage of that 51% who died without a seat belt WOULD have lived IF they were wearing a seat belt. But that's too complicated and honest to admit. So, instead - we take all 51% and say - not wearing seat belts killed them. And it's the 3rd leading cause of motor vehicle related death.


There's actually enough info on fatal crashes to take a guess.

In 2010, according to the DOT, there were 10,782 'no seatbelt' fatalities from the 15,562 crashes that involved any injury to the occupants. For people wearing both lap and shoulder belts, there were 9,621 fatalities for 14,997 accidents involving an injury to the occupants. (That's the 'best and most survivable setup.)

So, your odds of dying, if you were in an injury accident without a seatbelt are 69%, and your odds of dying with your seatbelt on are 64%, and you're 8% more likely to die unbelted. Wearing a seatbelt would have probably saved around 800 people just in 2010.

Where the numbers are really different are ejections. 5206 versus 513.. You're ten times more likely to be at least partially thrown from your car without a belt and being thrown from your car is 73-76% likely to kill you.
 
2012-08-25 11:10:42 PM  
Do the local cops still come to high schools and show films of gruesome accidents? They did that in my day. Then the cop would give a speech about safe driving and always wear your seat belts. I was a teenager and thus immune to the laws of physics and the experiences of my elders, so I drove like a dick and never wore a seat belt - until a friend was killed in a particularly horrific crash. Glad I wasn't the example.
 
2012-08-25 11:13:26 PM  
It's my choice not wear a set belt, which is no where a proper restraint, such as a 5 point harness, that I wear in the drag car.
 
2012-08-25 11:25:52 PM  
Jeeeezus, this is Old News--these things were around (in the U.S.) back in the seventies!

(I wonder if I can turn something up online as proof........)


/yes, old Farker here
 
2012-08-25 11:27:27 PM  
As a result, the failure to wear seat belts remains the 3rd-leading cause of traffic accident fatalities in China.

Number one case still being "sharing the road with chinese people"

The two months for work that i spent going around in taxis and buses there was simply insane. I refused to get into the front seat of the cabs there (its customary to do so there).
 
2012-08-25 11:28:34 PM  
The T-shirt may help you evade the "laws of man" but it won't help you get around the laws of physics.
 
2012-08-25 11:32:50 PM  
I always wear a belt because I learned at a young age that you cannot steer or brake when you are sitting on the dashboard.
 
2012-08-26 12:18:22 AM  
It's so long since I've seen an actual watch face that I totally bollixed up my comment. You got me. Sorry.
 
2012-08-26 12:36:38 AM  
It's quite amusing to think that just a couple of decades ago, basic things like wearing of seatbelts, not littering, and so on, actually had to be promoted. Kids today must look at old ads and such and think "Damn my parents and grandparents were stupid!"
 
2012-08-26 12:39:19 AM  
Ha, when I lived in China 15 years ago, nobody EVER wore a seat belt. I did one time, on my last day, on my way to the airport to fly home - I didn't want to die at the last possible moment. It had practically never been used, and put a big grease mark on my white shirt that I had to live with for the rest of that insanely long travel day.

/got in a wreck once in the States, only one wearing my seat belt, only one injured (broken collar bone, fractured skull, etc.)
//wear my seat belt religiously in the States
 
2012-08-26 12:44:06 AM  
Fark_Guy_Rob: Ishidan: Fark_Guy_Rob: Umm - I'm sorry....but that is RETARDED.

the failure to wear seat belts remains the 3rd-leading cause of traffic accident fatalities

That is the stupidest thing ever. Nobody dies from NOT wearing a seat belt. Nobody. Saying otherwise is nothing short of propaganda.

True. They die from going headfirst into the windshield during a crash, which the seat belt is designed to prevent.

Cause of death is the crash and secondary impact. Seat belt has no contributing factor to the death at all.

/is that how InsaneTrollLogic works?

Wearing a seat belt is no guarantee of safety. People who wear them *still* die in car accidents. In any particular car accident involving a fatality, how exactly do you determine whether or not a seat belt would have prevent death and/or injury? There are quite a few studies that even suggest wearing seat belts don't really net us much at all in terms of safety, for various reasons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seat_belt#Risk_compensation
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1564465,00.html

I'm certainly not anti-seat belt. Personally, I choose to wear one. But to claim that *not* wearing a seat belt *causes* death (and that it's the THIRD leading cause, behind speeding and drunk driving) is pretty dishonest, IMHO. Speeding has been shown to have a direct influence over someone's ability to safely navigate a roadway *and* increased speeds result in increased forces in a collision. Sure, you can say that speeding causes fatalities. Drunk driving - sure. We all know that delayed reaction time and poor judgement can be contributing factors in a crash that results in death.

But....not wearing a seat belt?

Come'on.

Not only does it not negatively impact your ability to drive or respond to road conditions - data suggests that people without a seat belt drive *MORE CAUTIOUSLY*
Similarly, a study of habitual non-seatbelt wearers driving in freeway conditions found evidence that they had adapted to s ...


Out of curiosity, are you an organ donor?

To be quite frank, I'm perfectly fine with you not wearing your seat belt, with two caveats. You 1) Opt out of any state Medicaid money dedicated to the treatment of traumatic injuries at regional trauma centers, meaning you and your family will be responsible for every cent of your treatment, and 2) You agree to mandatory organ donation.
 
2012-08-26 12:48:42 AM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Ishidan: Fark_Guy_Rob: Umm - I'm sorry....but that is RETARDED.

the failure to wear seat belts remains the 3rd-leading cause of traffic accident fatalities

That is the stupidest thing ever. Nobody dies from NOT wearing a seat belt. Nobody. Saying otherwise is nothing short of propaganda.

True. They die from going headfirst into the windshield during a crash, which the seat belt is designed to prevent.

Cause of death is the crash and secondary impact. Seat belt has no contributing factor to the death at all.

/is that how InsaneTrollLogic works?

Wearing a seat belt is no guarantee of safety. People who wear them *still* die in car accidents. In any particular car accident involving a fatality, how exactly do you determine whether or not a seat belt would have prevent death and/or injury? There are quite a few studies that even suggest wearing seat belts don't really net us much at all in terms of safety, for various reasons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seat_belt#Risk_compensation
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1564465,00.html

I'm certainly not anti-seat belt. Personally, I choose to wear one. But to claim that *not* wearing a seat belt *causes* death (and that it's the THIRD leading cause, behind speeding and drunk driving) is pretty dishonest, IMHO. Speeding has been shown to have a direct influence over someone's ability to safely navigate a roadway *and* increased speeds result in increased forces in a collision. Sure, you can say that speeding causes fatalities. Drunk driving - sure. We all know that delayed reaction time and poor judgement can be contributing factors in a crash that results in death.

But....not wearing a seat belt?

Come'on.

Not only does it not negatively impact your ability to drive or respond to road conditions - data suggests that people without a seat belt drive *MORE CAUTIOUSLY*
Similarly, a study of habitual non-seatbelt wearers driving in freeway conditions found evidence that they had adapted to s ...


Jesus Christ I hate people like you. Wear your farking seatbelt! Your paramedic will thank you because he wont see your brains all over the road and have to think about that for the rest of the week..

Even for much more minor accidents, Ive seen lots of people who would have been just fine if they would have been wearing their seatbelts but instead have to be taken out of the car not of their own power. Head and neck injuries, major avulsions that I gotta see and then not eat meat for 2 days (my own problem, I know) and broken limbs.

Wear your seatbelts! Ask any paramedic or fireman what they think...
 
2012-08-26 12:52:23 AM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Umm - I'm sorry....but that is RETARDED.

the failure to wear seat belts remains the 3rd-leading cause of traffic accident fatalities

That is the stupidest thing ever. Nobody dies from NOT wearing a seat belt. Nobody. Saying otherwise is nothing short of propaganda.


Sure, it's the pavement that kills them. Not NOT wearing a safety belt.
 
2012-08-26 01:05:01 AM  

Rodeodoc: Do the local cops still come to high schools and show films of gruesome accidents? They did that in my day. Then the cop would give a speech about safe driving and always wear your seat belts. I was a teenager and thus immune to the laws of physics and the experiences of my elders, so I drove like a dick and never wore a seat belt - until a friend was killed in a particularly horrific crash. Glad I wasn't the example.


My nephew informed me that the films are not quite as gruesome any longer.

/ours had stuff like 'severed head rolls off stretcher and into ditch'
//*sigh* those were the days!
 
2012-08-26 01:48:38 AM  

BeSerious: Fark_Guy_Rob: Umm - I'm sorry....but that is RETARDED.

the failure to wear seat belts remains the 3rd-leading cause of traffic accident fatalities

That is the stupidest thing ever. Nobody dies from NOT wearing a seat belt. Nobody. Saying otherwise is nothing short of propaganda.

Sure, it's the pavement that kills them. Not NOT wearing a safety belt.



Just like nobody dies from falling off the roof of a skyscraper....
 
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