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2012-08-25 01:35:47 AM
Maricopa County jagg-offs pick this subject to agree with the Feds on?

Well color me surprised.
 
2012-08-25 01:47:25 AM
Brewer tried this route and failed. Scream states' rights for some shiat and then come crawling back to the feds when the will of the people conflicts with your authoritarian worldview. These asswipes don't belong in government.
 
2012-08-25 02:04:54 AM

violentsalvation: Brewer tried this route and failed. Scream states' rights for some shiat and then come crawling back to the feds when the will of the people conflicts with your authoritarian worldview. These asswipes don't belong in government.


Yet we vote them in. Sad.
 
2012-08-25 02:36:26 AM

violentsalvation: Brewer tried this route and failed. Scream states' rights for some shiat and then come crawling back to the feds when the will of the people conflicts with your authoritarian worldview. These asswipes don't belong in government.


This was Brewer's route and still is:

Link

i.imgur.com

She is only going ahead with issuing permits because a court ordered her to.

i.imgur.com

If there was audio associated with that article it would be the sound of an evil cackle.
 
2012-08-25 02:44:41 AM

RoyBatty: violentsalvation: Brewer tried this route and failed. Scream states' rights for some shiat and then come crawling back to the feds when the will of the people conflicts with your authoritarian worldview. These asswipes don't belong in government.

This was Brewer's route and still is:

Link

[i.imgur.com image 632x644]

She is only going ahead with issuing permits because a court ordered her to.

[i.imgur.com image 628x172]

If there was audio associated with that article it would be the sound of an evil cackle.


So more of the same from her, she is still right behind it.
 
2012-08-25 04:22:24 AM
Goddammit so much - state's rights - please take them away from us!

Fark that. Federal laws against marijuana are unconstitutional, Wickard v Filburn and Raich vs. whoever be damned.

It took a Constitutional Amendment to ban alcohol, why is this any different?

And BTW, I'm sure marijuana helps some medical conditions, but fark that, I should have the right to get high if I want to for purely recreational reasons.
 
2012-08-25 08:19:57 AM
if Obama really wanted a game changer he should announce that he would move to get the federal controlled substance act amended to allow for medical mj. It might not pick him up a lot of new allies but it would sure energize a lot of his base.
 
2012-08-25 08:30:13 AM

Hobodeluxe: if Obama really wanted a game changer he should announce that he would move to get the federal controlled substance act amended to allow for medical mj. It might not pick him up a lot of new allies but it would sure energize a lot of his base.


This is going to sound bad, but he can't do a damned thing this term about drug law reform because he's back. It wou just add fuel to the Conservative fear of "The Other".
 
2012-08-25 08:32:31 AM
Damned "Add Comment" Button, that should be "because he's black."
 
2012-08-25 09:03:02 AM

Texian: Hobodeluxe: if Obama really wanted a game changer he should announce that he would move to get the federal controlled substance act amended to allow for medical mj. It might not pick him up a lot of new allies but it would sure energize a lot of his base.

This is going to sound bad, but he can't do a damned thing this term about drug law reform because he's back. It wou just add fuel to the Conservative fear of "The Other".


nah he could team up with Ron Paul and a few other white libertarian types.
 
2012-08-25 09:04:36 AM

Hobodeluxe: Texian: Hobodeluxe: if Obama really wanted a game changer he should announce that he would move to get the federal controlled substance act amended to allow for medical mj. It might not pick him up a lot of new allies but it would sure energize a lot of his base.

This is going to sound bad, but he can't do a damned thing this term about drug law reform because he's back. It wou just add fuel to the Conservative fear of "The Other".

nah he could team up with Ron Paul and a few other white libertarian types.


for that matter he could even get Pat Robertson to help too. that would give him plenty of cover.
 
2012-08-25 09:13:59 AM

Hobodeluxe: if Obama really wanted a game changer he should announce that he would move to get the federal controlled substance act amended to allow for medical mj. It might not pick him up a lot of new allies but it would sure energize a lot of his base.


Energized stoners? Lol
 
2012-08-25 09:14:24 AM
So Arizona is concerned this law conflicts with federal law.

They don't seem troubled by this when it comes to federal immigration law.
 
2012-08-25 10:50:31 AM
Growing and smoking the weed is a federal crime.
Get over it or change the laws, idiots.
 
2012-08-25 10:50:51 AM

edmo: So Arizona is concerned this law conflicts with federal law.

They don't seem troubled by this when it comes to federal immigration law.


Yep, this was my first thought as well.
 
2012-08-25 10:52:06 AM
At what point can we give them back to Mexico? I'm even willing to throw in Texas to sweeten the deal...
 
2012-08-25 10:52:32 AM

yeomanfarmer: violentsalvation: Brewer tried this route and failed. Scream states' rights for some shiat and then come crawling back to the feds when the will of the people conflicts with your authoritarian worldview. These asswipes don't belong in government.

Yet we vote them in. Sad.


Vote for them? At least 30% consider arpaio and brewer national heroes.
 
2012-08-25 10:54:16 AM
"The White Mountain Health Center sued Maricopa County and the Arizona Department of Health Services after the County refused to issue the proper zoning permits that would allow the Center to operate a non-profit medical marijuana dispensary and cultivation site in Sun City.
"It is the County's position that the AMMA is in direct violation of the federal Controlled Substances Act and therefore cannot be implemented without exposing County employees to the risk of federal prosecution," said Montgomery."

Why is it that I suspect that somewhere in the Maricopa County Charter there's a provision which denies anyone from having any fun, ever?
 
2012-08-25 10:56:13 AM
 
2012-08-25 10:56:34 AM
So when it comes to immigration law its "FU federal government!" but when it comes to regulating an herb its "Hurrah federal government!". Fark you and your shiatty Cardinals, AZ.
 
2012-08-25 10:57:02 AM
I assume they're going to argue that the "Interstate Commerce" clause in the Constitution is what gives the Feds the right to strike down the local law.
So in what way does pot grown in Arizona, sold in Arizona and consumed in Arizona constitute "Interstate Commerce?"
 
2012-08-25 10:58:43 AM
Maricopa County
 
2012-08-25 11:00:38 AM

Texian: Hobodeluxe: if Obama really wanted a game changer he should announce that he would move to get the federal controlled substance act amended to allow for medical mj. It might not pick him up a lot of new allies but it would sure energize a lot of his base.

This is going to sound bad, but he can't do a damned thing this term about drug law reform because he's back. It wou just add fuel to the Conservative fear of "The Other".


I realize this is anecdotal, but I know quite a few self identified Republicans who support marijuana legalization. Contrary to popular belief, democrats are not the only ones who enjoy a good long toke. And the people you speak of who would have a problem with a black man changing federal drug laws were never going to vote for him anyway, so fark them. I think if nothing else it would make Obama more popular among his base who has expressed disinterest in voting this election.
 
2012-08-25 11:00:43 AM

violentsalvation: Brewer tried this route and failed. Scream states' rights for some shiat and then come crawling back to the feds when the will of the people conflicts with your authoritarian worldview. These asswipes don't belong in government.


QFT
 
2012-08-25 11:01:03 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: Growing and smoking the weed is a federal crime.
Get over it or change the laws, idiots.


Yeah, they are trying to make it legal at the state level. I realize federal laws trump state ones, sure, but can you give me a reason marijuana is illegal?

Bonus points for not using the phrase "dangerous drugs". Because it isn't.

/don't smoke
//don't get why it is illegal
 
2012-08-25 11:02:26 AM
I've never liked "medical marijuana". It should be legalised for recreational use. Responsible people can safely use alcohol and I don't see any evidence that marijuana would be any different.
 
2012-08-25 11:05:05 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: Growing and smoking the weed is a federal crime.
Get over it or change the laws, idiots.


Yes, how?

/don't answer
 
2012-08-25 11:06:10 AM

mutterfark: I've never liked "medical marijuana". It should be legalised for recreational use. Responsible people can safely use alcohol and I don't see any evidence that marijuana would be any different.

 
2012-08-25 11:06:15 AM

Happy Hours: Goddammit so much - state's rights - please take them away from us!

Fark that. Federal laws against marijuana are unconstitutional, Wickard v Filburn and Raich vs. whoever be damned.

It took a Constitutional Amendment to ban alcohol, why is this any different?

And BTW, I'm sure marijuana helps some medical conditions, but fark that, I should have the right to get high if I want to for purely recreational reasons.


I'm suprised this point isn't argued more. Every article seems to be about the medical use for marijuana, when we all know people just want to get high. But that should be fine. People can get drunk if they want. Let them smoke. Of course, you shouldn't drive high and all that jazz. But if someone wants to light up at home and take the edge off, why are we still trying to stop them?

TimonC346: HotIgneous Intruder: Growing and smoking the weed is a federal crime.
Get over it or change the laws, idiots.

Yeah, they are trying to make it legal at the state level. I realize federal laws trump state ones, sure, but can you give me a reason marijuana is illegal?

Bonus points for not using the phrase "dangerous drugs". Because it isn't.

/don't smoke
//don't get why it is illegal


I'd like to see this as well. A good, solid, no bs argument as to why marijuana is illegal. Why is it less acceptable than alcohol.
 
2012-08-25 11:06:16 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: Growing and smoking the weed is a federal crime.
Get over it or change the laws, idiots.


It's called civil disobedience you dumb piece of shiat.
 
2012-08-25 11:06:38 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: Growing and smoking the weed is a federal crime.
Get over it or change the laws, idiots.


You always find a way to sound like the most smug, hostile bastard. At least the conservatrolls are funny.
 
2012-08-25 11:06:51 AM
Arizona Government SUCKS!! - I live here and I want to move to Colorado
 
2012-08-25 11:08:24 AM

NutWrench: I assume they're going to argue that the "Interstate Commerce" clause in the Constitution is what gives the Feds the right to strike down the local law.
So in what way does pot grown in Arizona, sold in Arizona and consumed in Arizona constitute "Interstate Commerce?"


They are using Article Six of the Constitution here, which states, basically, that Federal law trumps state law... and as was pointed out up-thread, they are in the process of making themselves look stoopud once people point out to them that Article Six *also* trumps their efforts at other things. Then again, for the GOP, Article Ten (states rights) uber alles, unless it applies to something that gets in the way of something else they feel strongly about.
 
2012-08-25 11:08:34 AM

MoronLessOff: I'd like to see this as well. A good, solid, no bs argument as to why marijuana is illegal. Why is it less acceptable than alcohol.


This
 
2012-08-25 11:08:51 AM

NutWrench: I assume they're going to argue that the "Interstate Commerce" clause in the Constitution is what gives the Feds the right to strike down the local law.
So in what way does pot grown in Arizona, sold in Arizona and consumed in Arizona constitute "Interstate Commerce?"


I've heard it before.... it has to do with the fact that you are not consuming pot from another state, and it interfers with that growers illegal crop. If I wasn't on my phone I'd search for it, but it was either mpp or normal that published an article on it. I think it was a grower in KY that they used it on.
 
2012-08-25 11:15:00 AM

Hobodeluxe: if Obama really wanted a game changer he should announce that he would move to get the federal controlled substance act amended to allow for medical mj. It might not pick him up a lot of new allies but it would sure energize a lot of his base.


what do you mean? you think 0bama would actually do something?
he still hasn't done anything about gay marriage express his personal viewpoint.
 
2012-08-25 11:15:20 AM

MoronLessOff: I'd like to see this as well. A good, solid, no bs argument as to why marijuana is illegal. Why is it less acceptable than alcohol.


Its harder to tax than alcohol. All praise and glory to the mighty tax dollar!
 
2012-08-25 11:16:04 AM
I'm confused. I thought Arizona was a small government paradise full of rugged individualists.
 
2012-08-25 11:18:24 AM

violentsalvation: come crawling back to the feds when the will of the people conflicts with your authoritarian worldview federal law. These people asswipes don't belong in have been supporting the federal government government.


ftfy

Arizona tried to enforce immigration when the feds wouldn't because they were too busy sending out illegal guns.

Now they are being blamed for enforcing a federal law.

At least they understand the bounds of the fed government and state rights. Do you?
 
2012-08-25 11:18:44 AM

Blue_Blazer: HotIgneous Intruder: Growing and smoking the weed is a federal crime.
Get over it or change the laws, idiots.

You always find a way to sound like the most smug, hostile bastard. At least the conservatrolls are funny.


That's because nothing about this national schizophrenia is funny.
It's sad and pathetic and frightening.
YMMV.

/Laugh and laugh and laugh, all the way to the grave.
 
2012-08-25 11:19:46 AM

fragMasterFlash: MoronLessOff: I'd like to see this as well. A good, solid, no bs argument as to why marijuana is illegal. Why is it less acceptable than alcohol.

Its harder to tax than alcohol. All praise and glory to the mighty tax dollar!


Is it? It seems pretty easy to tax tobacco. Although, I'm sure plenty of people would grow their own. Then again, home brew beer and wine is a popular hobby. I still don't see the difference.
 
2012-08-25 11:19:46 AM

sigdiamond2000: I'm confused. I thought Arizona was a small government paradise full of rugged individualists.


They are.

They are following federal law. Rugged individuals do follow the law.

Why are you confused?
 
2012-08-25 11:19:55 AM

Happy Hours: Goddammit so much - state's rights - please take them away from us!

Fark that. Federal laws against marijuana are unconstitutional, Wickard v Filburn and Raich vs. whoever be damned.

It took a Constitutional Amendment to ban alcohol, why is this any different?

And BTW, I'm sure marijuana helps some medical conditions, but fark that, I should have the right to get high if I want to for purely recreational reasons.


Old people. and they vote.
We need to be patient while those senile old coots that think pot is "da debil" die off.
 
2012-08-25 11:21:36 AM

EZ Writer: At what point can we give them back to Mexico? I'm even willing to throw in Texas to sweeten the deal...


Hell, the Texans would take over and everyone will much better off.
 
2012-08-25 11:23:15 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: Growing and smoking the weed is a federal crime.
Get over it or change the laws, idiots.


Will those laws change completely on their own? No public discourse is necessary, hhmmm?

/we ain't solvin the world, we be farkin
//why you here?
 
2012-08-25 11:26:22 AM
Hotigneous Intruder -

Dude. Pick up the bong! And be happy happy happy all the way to your grave.
You are one depressing mofo

YMMV
 
2012-08-25 11:26:36 AM
idiotflashback.files.wordpress.com 
blame Arizona
 
2012-08-25 11:26:37 AM

Hobodeluxe: if Obama really wanted a game changer he should announce that he would move to get the federal controlled substance act amended to allow for medical mj. It might not pick him up a lot of new allies but it would sure energize a lot of his base.


He doesn't have to do that. The CSA gives him pretty wide latitude on how to classify various drugs. All he really needs to do is issue an executive order stating that marijuana has recognized medical properties, so he can classify it as Schedule II.
 
2012-08-25 11:28:43 AM

Texian: Maricopa County jagg-offs pick this subject to agree with the Feds on?

Well color me surprised.



Actually they are pretty consistent with agreeing with the feds laws.
If you recall they were passing laws that mirrored federal laws on immigration because the feds no longer follow federal laws concerning immigration.

The feds are the ones picking and choosing what laws to follow...well them and California.
 
2012-08-25 11:29:13 AM

Another Government Employee: EZ Writer: At what point can we give them back to Mexico? I'm even willing to throw in Texas to sweeten the deal...

Hell, the Texans would take over and everyone will much better off.


I thought Texans were already pretty much Mexicans?
 
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