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2012-08-25 02:04:24 AM
A bit more to the story, there was an almost heart stoppage involved as well....

A couple of days ago I had to go into my bank, to fix a problem with the debit card I now have for my medical benefit fund. That was how I found out that a stop payment had been placed on the check. The very check, that was going to go a long way in saving my life. Shock took over. "What? Why? How was this possible?", I wondered. Tears once more overtook my cheeks. Immense sadness washed through me, as I struggled to grasp this news. When something phenomenal is given and then is abruptly taken away, it jolts you to the core. Not having it at all is easier than this.

I don't have any answers yet. There's been no response to my email and phone calls. I still believe that the donor meant to give me his gift. After all he took time to write that touching letter. I can't fathom that a person would intentionally crush another's hopes and renewed chance at life. I can't understand why any person would behave this way. Perhaps it was an error. Perhaps he's not available to remedy the problem right now. Perhaps he doesn't know. Perhaps I'll never know.


Rest of the story at the Linky
 
2012-08-25 03:13:51 AM
this is really old news here
 
2012-08-25 03:16:00 AM

othmar: this is really old news here


Are you telling me I shouldn't buy Beanie Baby stock?
 
2012-08-25 03:20:39 AM
"Of course I started crying, because that's what girls do"

Aaaaand now a really irritated and horrible part of me is almost kind of glad for

RoyBatty: A couple of days ago I had to go into my bank, to fix a problem with the debit card I now have for my medical benefit fund. That was how I found out that a stop payment had been placed on the check. The very check, that was going to go a long way in saving my life. Shock took over. "What? Why? How was this possible?", I wondered. Tears once more overtook my cheeks. Immense sadness washed through me, as I struggled to grasp this news. When something phenomenal is given and then is abruptly taken away, it jolts you to the core. Not having it at all is easier than this.

I don't have any answers yet. There's been no response to my email and phone calls. I still believe that the donor meant to give me his gift. After all he took time to write that touching letter. I can't fathom that a person would intentionally crush another's hopes and renewed chance at life. I can't understand why any person would behave this way. Perhaps it was an error. Perhaps he's not available to remedy the problem right now. Perhaps he doesn't know. Perhaps I'll never know.

 
2012-08-25 03:21:59 AM

othmar: this is really old news here


FTFA: By Ron Recinto | The Sideshow - 14 hrs ago.

That said - no snark, that was awesome.
 
2012-08-25 03:25:39 AM
The sad thing is that she is, more than likely, going to waste that 20,000 dollars on a Quack "Stem Cell Treatment" in Mexico or some other shady Carribean nation, and spend far more money on false hope, rather than using it to spend time with her friends and family and enjoy the time she has left.

However, being a "practicioner of reiki and herbalistic healing", as the article says she is, I doubt that critical thinking is one of her strong points.
 
2012-08-25 03:26:32 AM

RoyBatty: A bit more to the story, there was an almost heart stoppage involved as well....

A couple of days ago I had to go into my bank, to fix a problem with the debit card I now have for my medical benefit fund. That was how I found out that a stop payment had been placed on the check. The very check, that was going to go a long way in saving my life. Shock took over. "What? Why? How was this possible?", I wondered. Tears once more overtook my cheeks. Immense sadness washed through me, as I struggled to grasp this news. When something phenomenal is given and then is abruptly taken away, it jolts you to the core. Not having it at all is easier than this.

I don't have any answers yet. There's been no response to my email and phone calls. I still believe that the donor meant to give me his gift. After all he took time to write that touching letter. I can't fathom that a person would intentionally crush another's hopes and renewed chance at life. I can't understand why any person would behave this way. Perhaps it was an error. Perhaps he's not available to remedy the problem right now. Perhaps he doesn't know. Perhaps I'll never know.

Rest of the story at the Linky


I hope there is a followup link from someone other than, y'know, this random-ass chick. I'd like to know the real story.
 
2012-08-25 03:31:21 AM
RoyBatty: A bit more to the story, there was an almost heart stoppage involved as well....

A couple of days ago I had to go into my bank, to fix a problem with the debit card I now have for my medical benefit fund. That was how I found out that a stop payment had been placed on the check. The very check, that was going to go a long way in saving my life. Shock took over. "What? Why? How was this possible?", I wondered. Tears once more overtook my cheeks. Immense sadness washed through me, as I struggled to grasp this news. When something phenomenal is given and then is abruptly taken away, it jolts you to the core. Not having it at all is easier than this.

I don't have any answers yet. There's been no response to my email and phone calls. I still believe that the donor meant to give me his gift. After all he took time to write that touching letter. I can't fathom that a person would intentionally crush another's hopes and renewed chance at life. I can't understand why any person would behave this way. Perhaps it was an error. Perhaps he's not available to remedy the problem right now. Perhaps he doesn't know. Perhaps I'll never know.

Rest of the story at the Linky


Maybe the guy went home, did a little reading, and found out how full of shiat "Stem Cell Treatments" marketed like this are.

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/stem-cell-therapy-regul a tion-plays-catch-up-2/

/Helpful Hint: No legitimate research institution doing a study on a Non-FDA approved treatment like this would ever require you to PAY THEM to participate in the study. This goes just as much for Stem Cells, as it does Cancer Treatment. (Burzynski, I'm looking at you on this one.)
//Helpful Hint 2: If they ask you to do this, AND go to a Foreign Country to have it done, then you need to run. Run away as fast as you can.
 
2012-08-25 03:39:59 AM
Life is like a hurricane
Here in Duckburg
Race cars, lasers, aeroplanes
It's a duck-blur
Might solve a mystery
Or rewrite history

DuckTales (oooh ooooh)
Every day they're out there making
DuckTales (oooh ooooh)
Tales of daring do bad and good
LuckTales (oooh ooooh)

When it seems they're heading for the
Final curtain
Cool deduction never fails
That's for certain
The worst of messes
Become successes

DuckTales (oooh ooooh)
Every day they're out there making
DuckTales (oooh ooooh)
Tales of daring do bad and good
LuckTales (oooh ooooh)

D-D-D-Danger! Watch behind you
There's a stranger out to find you
What to do? Just grab on to some DuckTales

DuckTales (oooh ooooh)
Every day they're out there making
DuckTales (oooh ooooh)
Tales of daring do bad and good
LuckTales (oooh ooooh)

D-D-D-Danger! Watch behind you
There's a stranger out to find you
What to do? Just grab on to some ...

DuckTales (oooh ooooh)
Every day they're out there making
DuckTales (oooh ooooh)
Tales of daring do bad and good
LuckTales (oooh ooooh)

DuckTales (oooh ooooh)
Every day they're out there making
DuckTales (oooh ooooh)
Tales of daring do bad and good
LuckTales (oooh ooooh)

Not pony tales or cotton tales, no
DuckTales (ooh ooooh)

ucbpcn.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-08-25 03:44:37 AM
Gotta love a country where getting medical care depends on a chance meeting with a stranger.
 
2012-08-25 03:45:06 AM

BronyMedic: The sad thing is that she is, more than likely, going to waste that 20,000 dollars on a Quack "Stem Cell Treatment" in Mexico or some other shady Carribean nation, and spend far more money on false hope, rather than using it to spend time with her friends and family and enjoy the time she has left.

However, being a "practicioner of reiki and herbalistic healing", as the article says she is, I doubt that critical thinking is one of her strong points.


This.
 
2012-08-25 03:45:39 AM

BronyMedic: RoyBatty: A bit more to the story, there was an almost heart stoppage involved as well....

A couple of days ago I had to go into my bank, to fix a problem with the debit card I now have for my medical benefit fund. That was how I found out that a stop payment had been placed on the check. The very check, that was going to go a long way in saving my life. Shock took over. "What? Why? How was this possible?", I wondered. Tears once more overtook my cheeks. Immense sadness washed through me, as I struggled to grasp this news. When something phenomenal is given and then is abruptly taken away, it jolts you to the core. Not having it at all is easier than this.

I don't have any answers yet. There's been no response to my email and phone calls. I still believe that the donor meant to give me his gift. After all he took time to write that touching letter. I can't fathom that a person would intentionally crush another's hopes and renewed chance at life. I can't understand why any person would behave this way. Perhaps it was an error. Perhaps he's not available to remedy the problem right now. Perhaps he doesn't know. Perhaps I'll never know.

Rest of the story at the Linky

Maybe the guy went home, did a little reading, and found out how full of shiat "Stem Cell Treatments" marketed like this are.

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/stem-cell-therapy-regul a tion-plays-catch-up-2/

/Helpful Hint: No legitimate research institution doing a study on a Non-FDA approved treatment like this would ever require you to PAY THEM to participate in the study. This goes just as much for Stem Cells, as it does Cancer Treatment. (Burzynski, I'm looking at you on this one.)
//Helpful Hint 2: If they ask you to do this, AND go to a Foreign Country to have it done, then you need to run. Run away as fast as you can.


I believe that's the case. There's a person somewhere claiming to be a doctor and claiming to have a stem cell treatment that will save her life. Her insurance won't pay for it because it's bunk, and neither will Medicare or anyone else. But he's got her hooked and she thinks it's real and you're not going to shake that.
 
2012-08-25 03:49:43 AM
Damn, 20,000 dollars.
That's like 2 of the original 3 Beanie Baby original dinosaurs back in the day. Or 100,000 of any Beanie Baby right now. 

Why does my brain remember that the dinosaur Beanie Babies were valuable? How does that information have precedent over anything useful? Jesus Christ. It was my mom that obsessively collected them and that was what, 15 years ago? I can't even remember the last time this data was accessed. FFS. I can't even name all 151 original Pokemon any more, and Pokemon was (and still is) farking awesome.
Seriously. Why? I don't even like Beanie Babies. Well, the parrot was pretty cool, but he didn't have much value since he was introduced later on... ugh...
I can't even name all 151 original Pokemon any more, and Pokemon was (and still is) farking awesome.

Bulbasaur Ivysaur Venusaur
Squirtle Wartortle Blastoise
Charmander Charmeleon Charizard
Rattata Ratticate
Pidgey Pidgeot Pidgeoto (I think?)
Spearow Fearow
Metapod... hmm what was the second one in this evolutionary line... uhh... was it the one with string shot? fark. okay Butterfree was the final evolution I know at least. oh wait. Weedle? I think it was Weedle.
Wait.. Metapod turned into a moth at third evolution. Metapod, [something], purple moth guy. wait, kakuna?
Kakuna, Weedle, purple moth I can't name. Then Metapod, a worm thing, and then Butterfree. Oh the worm was green I think. I hope that isn't Weedle. It sounded cute in the anime.
I remember being sad when Butterfree left Ash to be with the pink Butterfree. It was sunset I think and they were on a cliff, and Team Rocket had a hot air balloon for a scheme of theirs.

Yeah, that's the stuff. Pokemon memories are pretty sweet.
 
2012-08-25 03:54:57 AM
Ive been on dialysis.

I have a transplant now.

Its an odd feeling between life and death. A feeling of being drained and feeling both better and worse at all times. Tired.

I dont know all of her details but if a transplant is out of the question than she is probably farked.
 
2012-08-25 03:55:19 AM

God-is-a-Taco: Damn, 20,000 dollars.
That's like 2 of the original 3 Beanie Baby original dinosaurs back in the day. Or 100,000 of any Beanie Baby right now. 

Why does my brain remember that the dinosaur Beanie Babies were valuable? How does that information have precedent over anything useful? Jesus Christ. It was my mom that obsessively collected them and that was what, 15 years ago? I can't even remember the last time this data was accessed. FFS. I can't even name all 151 original Pokemon any more, and Pokemon was (and still is) farking awesome.
Seriously. Why? I don't even like Beanie Babies. Well, the parrot was pretty cool, but he didn't have much value since he was introduced later on... ugh...
I can't even name all 151 original Pokemon any more, and Pokemon was (and still is) farking awesome.

Bulbasaur Ivysaur Venusaur
Squirtle Wartortle Blastoise
Charmander Charmeleon Charizard
Rattata Ratticate
Pidgey Pidgeot Pidgeoto (I think?)
Spearow Fearow
Metapod... hmm what was the second one in this evolutionary line... uhh... was it the one with string shot? fark. okay Butterfree was the final evolution I know at least. oh wait. Weedle? I think it was Weedle.
Wait.. Metapod turned into a moth at third evolution. Metapod, [something], purple moth guy. wait, kakuna?
Kakuna, Weedle, purple moth I can't name. Then Metapod, a worm thing, and then Butterfree. Oh the worm was green I think. I hope that isn't Weedle. It sounded cute in the anime.
I remember being sad when Butterfree left Ash to be with the pink Butterfree. It was sunset I think and they were on a cliff, and Team Rocket had a hot air balloon for a scheme of theirs.

Yeah, that's the stuff. Pokemon memories are pretty sweet.


Excellent stream of consciousness. My only question is, how stoned are you exactly? :-)
 
2012-08-25 04:01:13 AM
God Is so good!!!!!
 
2012-08-25 04:10:25 AM

UncleStumpy: God Is so good!!!!!


I know right? Here you wouldn't even know it if that snarky bastard didn't cause her kidneys to fail.
 
2012-08-25 04:11:08 AM
Reiki? fark her. She has given many people false hope and now she's getting some back.

www.inforeiki.it

My little sister used to practice reiki on long car trips- she called it eymnotuchingiu.
 
2012-08-25 04:16:11 AM

batcookie:
Excellent stream of consciousness. My only question is, how stoned are you exactly? :-)


Bah. I have prescriptions so that my brain acts less abnormal. I'll never do drugs to mess my brain up on purpose.

So do you know the second evolution of Metapod and/or Kakuna?
 
2012-08-25 04:22:16 AM

God-is-a-Taco: batcookie:
Excellent stream of consciousness. My only question is, how stoned are you exactly? :-)

Bah. I have prescriptions so that my brain acts less abnormal. I'll never do drugs to mess my brain up on purpose.

So do you know the second evolution of Metapod and/or Kakuna?


Haha sorry, can't help you, I'm not really an anime person. I was just admiring your Pokemon inspired ranting to no one in particular. I enjoy that sort of thing.
 
2012-08-25 04:30:02 AM
I think he's talking Pokemon but I'm not sure.

When that thing was popular I was in college hammering down 12 packs and picking up sorority sluts; I didn't have time for a kids video game.
 
2012-08-25 04:32:21 AM
farkityfarker: Gotta love a country where getting medical care depends on a chance meeting with a stranger.

I know you thought you had a legitimate point here, but you don't.

This is not medical care. This is quackery. Do a little research on how obscene these places are, and the sickening business practices that make even the shadiest Big Pharma scandal look ethical in comparison.

Did you ever question why the FDA and the Feds come down on people for promoting this stuff? I'll give you a hint: It's not because Big Pharma is trying to hide the cure for X, or there's not money in it.

It's because these people are scam artists, who prey on sick and desperate individuals who don't know better, or are too emotionally vested to critically examine claims. They take tens of thousands of dollars of that person's money, and bleed them dry while giving them false hope, with no chance for a legitimate cure or change in their outcome.

She LEGITIMATELY does not quality for a kidney transplant, because she is too sick, or in her advanced condition it will make no difference in her outcome. Organ transplantation is about doing the most good for the most people given a legitimately small supply in the United States.

Do you know why most of these places exist in second or third world countries? Because lax medical regulations allow them to conduct unethical human experimentation with the same rigid standards of the United States, and even allow them to pass of sham therapies and treatments as legitimate. There have been groups who have been claiming to implant "stem cells", who were doing nothing but putting in various animal cells, or putting actual human stem cells anywhere. There are real risks with stem cell transplants, including rejection and actually causing cancers, that are challenges for legitimate researchers at this time.

The sad thing is that people are too willing to believe some pseudopolitical, hodge podge conspiracy theory nonsense, versus the simple fact that there are A LOT of people out there more than happy to take advantage of desperate, sick individuals who have loads of money to throw away - be it something like autism, or something like intractable renal failure.

Like I said before: No legitimate research study for a non-FDA approved therapy would EVER charge a patient 20,000 dollars to participate in it. In reality, they are NOT allowed to charge patients for the investigation therapies by federal law and human experimentation standards - like the FDA's common rule.
 
2012-08-25 04:46:09 AM
BronyMedic:

Yeah, once it became clear she was hiding the name of the country this is going to happen in it became pretty clear that her desperation has sent her to third world hellhole for some hocus pocus.
At least it's not a rhinoceros penis.


batcookie:
Haha sorry, can't help you, I'm not really an anime person. I was just admiring your Pokemon inspired ranting to no one in particular. I enjoy that sort of thing.


I suppose it's a small glimpse into the human mind when it doesn't quite operate the way it's supposed to.

FYI, everyone:

Metapod -> Caterpie -> Butterfree
Kakuna -> Weedle ->Beedril
 
2012-08-25 04:51:16 AM

BronyMedic: farkityfarker: Gotta love a country where getting medical care depends on a chance meeting with a stranger.

I know you thought you had a legitimate point here, but you don't.

This is not medical care. This is quackery. Do a little research on how obscene these places are, and the sickening business practices that make even the shadiest Big Pharma scandal look ethical in comparison.



Farkity Fark is right about the sad state of affairs when someone has to riase money in order to get medical care (see also: the farker who was going to lose his eyesight). You're right that what she is engaging in is not medical science but a 'fear of death' Hail Mary where any lifeline is grasped, even one with no flotation device at the end of it. You're both right, dude.
 
2012-08-25 04:52:43 AM

Dadoody:

Not pony tales or cotton tales, no
DuckTales (ooh ooooh)

[ucbpcn.files.wordpress.com image 373x295]


We used to sing the Duck Tales theme song in the dorms. Good god.
 
2012-08-25 05:31:12 AM
www.popdiced.com
 
2012-08-25 05:34:47 AM

God-is-a-Taco: BronyMedic:

Yeah, once it became clear she was hiding the name of the country this is going to happen in it became pretty clear that her desperation has sent her to third world hellhole for some hocus pocus.
At least it's not a rhinoceros penis.


batcookie:
Haha sorry, can't help you, I'm not really an anime person. I was just admiring your Pokemon inspired ranting to no one in particular. I enjoy that sort of thing.

I suppose it's a small glimpse into the human mind when it doesn't quite operate the way it's supposed to.

FYI, everyone:

Metapod -> Caterpie -> Butterfree
Kakuna -> Weedle ->Beedril


Haha believe me, that's nothing compared to some of the stuff I hear on a daily basis. I work in a group home for the mentally ill. I will say this, it gives great perspective on us humans as creatures of flawed and subjective perceptions. That's why I don't get mad when I get into debates - I laugh because I know that no matter how absurd I find another person's position, I know that they find mine equally absurd, and that those positions ARE our realities and when someone believes something so strongly that they will passionately argue for it, I have about as much chance of changing their mind as I do of convincing the client of mine who draws on walls in order to prevent the universe from being consumed by a black hole that his notions are false.
 
2012-08-25 06:54:07 AM
I was shocked that this particular type of treatment wasn't available to her in the U.S.

Thanks, republicans!

/something something god...
//something something bible...
 
2012-08-25 07:07:34 AM

batcookie:
Haha believe me, that's nothing compared to some of the stuff I hear on a daily basis. I work in a group home for the mentally ill. I will say this, it gives great perspective on us humans as creatures of flawed and subjective perceptions.


Oh yes, my family is well acquainted with this stuff actually. 2 parents, 5 kids, all with various mental illnesses. Two of them dangerously bi-polar (not me thankfully). Years ago we donated DNA to aid in finding genetic links to mental illness.

We're also quite intelligent, not to took my own horn or whatnot. If my brother's bi-polar-ness could be fully contained and controlled, I really do think he'd a household name from something. He seems too smart for this world.


Also, these random rants of mine get me sponsored for TF for some reason so I have an obligation to post them or I feel like I'm letting people down. 

/sorry for threadjack. Thread can return to the dying desperation of a woman who has exhausted all options :(
 
2012-08-25 07:08:47 AM

divx88: UncleStumpy: God Is so good!!!!!

I know right? Here you wouldn't even know it if that snarky bastard didn't cause her kidneys to fail.


Surprised it took 50 minutes for someone to post shiat about the religious slant he was mentioned, but I knew it would he here eventually on Fark where shiatting on religion is a given.
 
2012-08-25 07:16:04 AM

God-is-a-Taco: batcookie:
Haha believe me, that's nothing compared to some of the stuff I hear on a daily basis. I work in a group home for the mentally ill. I will say this, it gives great perspective on us humans as creatures of flawed and subjective perceptions.

Oh yes, my family is well acquainted with this stuff actually. 2 parents, 5 kids, all with various mental illnesses. Two of them dangerously bi-polar (not me thankfully). Years ago we donated DNA to aid in finding genetic links to mental illness.

We're also quite intelligent, not to took my own horn or whatnot. If my brother's bi-polar-ness could be fully contained and controlled, I really do think he'd a household name from something. He seems too smart for this world.


Also, these random rants of mine get me sponsored for TF for some reason so I have an obligation to post them or I feel like I'm letting people down. 

/sorry for threadjack. Thread can return to the dying desperation of a woman who has exhausted all options :(


I hope you didn't get an implication that I thought otherwise, but intelligence and mental illness can go hand and hand as easily as mental health and intelligence. Mental illness isn't a measure of that. It's just a flaw in your thinking/feeling that interferes with your ability to reach your own full potential. The mentally ill are to be as valued as any other people - there are good ones and bad ones. They're people, like anyone else.
 
2012-08-25 07:28:21 AM

God-is-a-Taco: BronyMedic:

Yeah, once it became clear she was hiding the name of the country this is going to happen in it became pretty clear that her desperation has sent her to third world hellhole for some hocus pocus.
At least it's not a rhinoceros penis.


batcookie:
Haha sorry, can't help you, I'm not really an anime person. I was just admiring your Pokemon inspired ranting to no one in particular. I enjoy that sort of thing.

I suppose it's a small glimpse into the human mind when it doesn't quite operate the way it's supposed to.

FYI, everyone:

Metapod -> Caterpie -> Butterfree
Kakuna -> Weedle ->Beedril


You actually have it swapped. Like the life cycle of a butterfly, it goes from larva to pupa to winged insect, so the orders are:

Caterpie, Metapod, Butterfree
Weedle, Kakuna, Beedrill

Fark yeah pokemon! I was in 3rd grade when the original 151 were popular.

/Yes, I'm young
//Yes, I'll get off your lawn now
 
2012-08-25 07:33:39 AM

farkityfarker: Gotta love a country where getting medical care depends on a chance meeting with a stranger.


There are lots of countries to choose from. Choose your own.
 
2012-08-25 07:37:18 AM
The story here isn't that he helped her, the story is that its perfectly ok that she is standing on a street corner, begging for her life.
 
2012-08-25 07:49:44 AM

batcookie: Mental illness isn't a measure of that.


Oh no, I don't think that at all. I just meant that it may be related to my family's unusual intelligence in regards to the relatives. The non-immediate family is quite mediocre in intelligence, but no mental issues to speak of.
It's truly an enigma.

and damn it, Skullduggery, you're not going to make me feel old at 28. I'm young, too.
Bastard. 

/last off-topic reply
 
2012-08-25 08:39:05 AM
So this rich guy stopped to ask for directions? Does he not have a GPS in his car?
 
2012-08-25 08:50:14 AM
I'd love to hit that before she dies.
 
2012-08-25 09:01:06 AM

abhorrent1: I was shocked that this particular type of treatment wasn't available to her in the U.S.

Thanks, republicans!

/something something god...
//something something bible...


I'm going to assume that you're trolling here, since you can't be stupid enough to believe that this 'treatment' is anything more then a sham.
I'll give this woman a bit of leeway since she's reached the stage of desperation, and will try anything to extend her life.
 
2012-08-25 09:02:43 AM

batcookie: God-is-a-Taco: BronyMedic:

Yeah, once it became clear she was hiding the name of the country this is going to happen in it became pretty clear that her desperation has sent her to third world hellhole for some hocus pocus.
At least it's not a rhinoceros penis.


batcookie:
Haha sorry, can't help you, I'm not really an anime person. I was just admiring your Pokemon inspired ranting to no one in particular. I enjoy that sort of thing.

I suppose it's a small glimpse into the human mind when it doesn't quite operate the way it's supposed to.

FYI, everyone:

Metapod -> Caterpie -> Butterfree
Kakuna -> Weedle ->Beedril

Haha believe me, that's nothing compared to some of the stuff I hear on a daily basis. I work in a group home for the mentally ill. I will say this, it gives great perspective on us humans as creatures of flawed and subjective perceptions. That's why I don't get mad when I get into debates - I laugh because I know that no matter how absurd I find another person's position, I know that they find mine equally absurd, and that those positions ARE our realities and when someone believes something so strongly that they will passionately argue for it, I have about as much chance of changing their mind as I do of convincing the client of mine who draws on walls in order to prevent the universe from being consumed by a black hole that his notions are false.


What if it does prevent the universe from being consumed by a black hole?
 
2012-08-25 09:09:12 AM

Ozarkhawk: The story here isn't that he helped her, the story is that its perfectly ok that she is standing on a street corner, begging for her life.


We are not getting the full story here.
Why is she not eligible for a transplant?
Does she have a terminal condition, and renal failure is one of the side effects?
Since no health care provider would pay for an unapproved procedure, even after the new healthcare system takes effect, she's on her own for funding quack medical care.
 
2012-08-25 09:45:27 AM
So the billionaire put a stop payment on the check for something that gave this woman hope, no matter how misguided, and really there is no other way that she was going to get treatment.

Hopefully he can take that 20k and really stoke the fire up in his 15th living room. I hear it can get nippy in there.
 
2012-08-25 09:49:39 AM
Why are people assuming that because she has to travel to another country for her treatment, that it is absolutely a sham? The US is not the forerunner on stem cell research by any stretch of the imagination.

A cursory glance at wiki shows that there are many countries with far less restrictive laws regarding stem cell research than the US. Israel, for example. Or China.
 
2012-08-25 09:49:54 AM

RoyBatty: A bit more to the story, there was an almost heart stoppage involved as well....

A couple of days ago I had to go into my bank, to fix a problem with the debit card I now have for my medical benefit fund. That was how I found out that a stop payment had been placed on the check. The very check, that was going to go a long way in saving my life. Shock took over. "What? Why? How was this possible?", I wondered. Tears once more overtook my cheeks. Immense sadness washed through me, as I struggled to grasp this news. When something phenomenal is given and then is abruptly taken away, it jolts you to the core. Not having it at all is easier than this.

I don't have any answers yet. There's been no response to my email and phone calls. I still believe that the donor meant to give me his gift. After all he took time to write that touching letter. I can't fathom that a person would intentionally crush another's hopes and renewed chance at life. I can't understand why any person would behave this way. Perhaps it was an error. Perhaps he's not available to remedy the problem right now. Perhaps he doesn't know. Perhaps I'll never know.

Rest of the story at the Linky


Aug 9: I left a message, and then as before I hoped for a response. Within an hour my phone rang. My messages had been received. My voice had been heard. I listened as the person on the line explained what had happened with the check. There had been concern that the check had fallen into the wrong hands. "We would like to reissue the check", said the man's voice. "I am here in town, can you meet me for lunch?" Of course I replied with a resounding, "yes".
 
2012-08-25 01:12:23 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Aug 9: I left a message, and then as before I hoped for a response. Within an hour my phone rang. My messages had been received. My voice had been heard. I listened as the person on the line explained what had happened with the check. There had been concern that the check had fallen into the wrong hands. "We would like to reissue the check", said the man's voice. "I am here in town, can you meet me for lunch?" Of course I replied with a resounding, "yes".


No one ever clicks the link....
 
2012-08-25 03:46:05 PM
All I am saying is anyone hat has 100K lying around.. I will be happy to use that for stem cells for my MS. Stem cells are expensive and you have to travel to get them.
 
2012-08-25 06:56:10 PM
You Are All Sheep: So the billionaire put a stop payment on the check for something that gave this woman hope, no matter how misguided, and really there is no other way that she was going to get treatment.

Hopefully he can take that 20k and really stoke the fire up in his 15th living room. I hear it can get nippy in there.


So if your doctor told you you had an incurable, terminal disease which made you ineligible for a transplant, but told you if you give him 20 grand, he'll put something in you that would cure you right off the bat, would you do it?

Because that's the claim here with these groups. They're not undertaking legitimate medical therapies. If they're even implanting stem cells, even.

Via Infinito: Why are people assuming that because she has to travel to another country for her treatment, that it is absolutely a sham? The US is not the forerunner on stem cell research by any stretch of the imagination.

We're assuming because they're making her pay 20,000 dollars for a treatment that is, at best, an experimental therapy which has not been proven to work at all, that it's a sham. Because, that tends to be how they operate.

One of the prime ethical guidelines for human experimentation among almost every First World country is that you do not force your subjects to pay YOU for the privilege to participate in the trial.
 
2012-08-25 09:56:08 PM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: batcookie: God-is-a-Taco: BronyMedic:

Yeah, once it became clear she was hiding the name of the country this is going to happen in it became pretty clear that her desperation has sent her to third world hellhole for some hocus pocus.
At least it's not a rhinoceros penis.


batcookie:
Haha sorry, can't help you, I'm not really an anime person. I was just admiring your Pokemon inspired ranting to no one in particular. I enjoy that sort of thing.

I suppose it's a small glimpse into the human mind when it doesn't quite operate the way it's supposed to.

FYI, everyone:

Metapod -> Caterpie -> Butterfree
Kakuna -> Weedle ->Beedril

Haha believe me, that's nothing compared to some of the stuff I hear on a daily basis. I work in a group home for the mentally ill. I will say this, it gives great perspective on us humans as creatures of flawed and subjective perceptions. That's why I don't get mad when I get into debates - I laugh because I know that no matter how absurd I find another person's position, I know that they find mine equally absurd, and that those positions ARE our realities and when someone believes something so strongly that they will passionately argue for it, I have about as much chance of changing their mind as I do of convincing the client of mine who draws on walls in order to prevent the universe from being consumed by a black hole that his notions are false.

What if it does prevent the universe from being consumed by a black hole?


You don't know how often I say that to my coworkers. "Aren't we gonna feel like assholes the day he stops and we are all doomed?"
 
2012-08-26 03:29:21 AM
Earlier, a guy wearing clothes purchased from Target driving a ten year old civic asked her for directions and she said, "I'm busy, loser"
 
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