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2012-08-24 06:48:58 PM  

Silverstaff: HotIgneous Intruder: Absolutely no reason for special operations troops to be training with local civilian police.
No. Reason. At. All.

Bzzt. Wrong.

US Special Forces trains with the local civilian population of North Carolina on a regular basis, for example.

Operation ROBIN SAGE is Phase IV of US Army Special Forces training, conducted over 28 days and across 15 counties of North Carolina, where the Green Beret-trainees interact with local civilians who are in on the training scenario (the 15 counties depict the "People's Republic of Pineland" a fictional totalitarian state with the people wanting to rise up in a revolution).


It's not North Carolina, asshole.

/Let the mission creep right up your anus.
 
2012-08-24 06:49:18 PM  

Silverstaff: HotIgneous Intruder: Absolutely no reason for special operations troops to be training with local civilian police.
No. Reason. At. All.

Bzzt. Wrong.

US Special Forces trains with the local civilian population of North Carolina on a regular basis, for example.

Operation ROBIN SAGE is Phase IV of US Army Special Forces training, conducted over 28 days and across 15 counties of North Carolina, where the Green Beret-trainees interact with local civilians who are in on the training scenario (the 15 counties depict the "People's Republic of Pineland" a fictional totalitarian state with the people wanting to rise up in a revolution).


Wow, what brand of tinfoil do YOU use?

Your hat gets way better reception than mine.
 
2012-08-24 06:50:33 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com

No sir, there were no black helicopters. What you saw was a routine military training exercise. Just the National Guard out getting some flight time in.
 
2012-08-24 06:53:47 PM  

Silverstaff: HotIgneous Intruder: Absolutely no reason for special operations troops to be training with local civilian police.
No. Reason. At. All.

Bzzt. Wrong.

US Special Forces trains with the local civilian population of North Carolina on a regular basis, for example.

Operation ROBIN SAGE is Phase IV of US Army Special Forces training, conducted over 28 days and across 15 counties of North Carolina, where the Green Beret-trainees interact with local civilians who are in on the training scenario (the 15 counties depict the "People's Republic of Pineland" a fictional totalitarian state with the people wanting to rise up in a revolution).


Many moons ago in ROTC, I got to be one of the "tribes" that we're trained by the SF candidates in Robin Sage. Assaulting an air field, ambushing a convoy, planting explosives, setting up a drop site for helicopters, etc. The weather sucked but it was fun doing things like driving through town in the back of an RV with a M16. They're some of the most awesome and professional people you'll ever meet.
 
2012-08-24 06:59:47 PM  
Since they're declining to relaease the areas in which they'll be operating, I'd guess it's OK ot fire laser beams into the air anywhere?
 
2012-08-24 07:02:57 PM  

GoodDoctorB: Wow, what brand of tinfoil do YOU use?

Your hat gets way better reception than mine.


He's absolutely correct. Robin Sage is the Green Beret course capstone experience in which the students are trained to suppress freedom fighters of other political ideologies by training freedom fighters friendly to our ideology to kill them. It's a mini-course version of how the CIA created Bin Laden, btw. They -- the green beret candidates -- use bribery and hearts and minds persuasion propaganda to get "tribes" of civilians to get with the globalist program and kill people we don't like.
It's really working well in Afghanistan.
But it'll work much better here in the US and A, where people are not much more sophisticated.
 
2012-08-24 07:03:40 PM  

GoodDoctorB: Silverstaff: HotIgneous Intruder: Absolutely no reason for special operations troops to be training with local civilian police.
No. Reason. At. All.

Bzzt. Wrong.

US Special Forces trains with the local civilian population of North Carolina on a regular basis, for example.

Operation ROBIN SAGE is Phase IV of US Army Special Forces training, conducted over 28 days and across 15 counties of North Carolina, where the Green Beret-trainees interact with local civilians who are in on the training scenario (the 15 counties depict the "People's Republic of Pineland" a fictional totalitarian state with the people wanting to rise up in a revolution).

Wow, what brand of tinfoil do YOU use?

Your hat gets way better reception than mine.


Tinfoil? WTF?

USSOCOM's Official Press Release about ROBIN SAGE. . .to let the civilians of North Carolina know military training exercises will be happening off-post.

Part of Robin Sage on Youtube Seeing is believing.

Globalsecurity.org's entry on Exercise Robin Sage

Wikipedia entry for Robin Sage, part of the article on Special Forces training Is a Wiki article a good source for you?

It's not like it's a secret, or contested, or any kind of conspiracy theory.

HotIgneous Intruder:
It's not North Carolina, asshole.

/Let the mission creep right up your anus.


Did you get an extra scoop of Hostile in your cereal this morning? Tune the Jerk setting down.

It is proof that military training exercises, including USSOCOM ones, are done off a military reservation.

From the article, it sounds like they coordinated with a private landowner to use private property for a training exercise. We don't know the details, but it could be something like an abandoned mall, a closed factory or such they are using for MOUT (Military Operations in Urban Terrain) training that isn't available at normal military bases.

If you were training for a stealthy raid on a refinery or factory that incapacitates the plant, with the deniabiltiy that comes from it NOT exploding from a cruise missile or hellfire missile strike, insertion of some operators to sabotage it would be a good option. (wild-ass guess) Want to train to sabotage an Iranian nuclear plant? That would be a good way to do it(/wild-ass guess)

Military MOUT sites are typically oriented towards mimicking small villages in countries ending with -stan. A few streets with one-room buildings and maybe a couple of small two-story shacks are typical.

Anything big and industrial, or large scale commercial and you're not going to find that on-post.
 
2012-08-24 07:03:57 PM  
"...he heard the *whup-whup-whup* overhead, but barely felt a breeze..."
 
2012-08-24 07:12:45 PM  
The biggest fools are the ones who spend countless hours denying the existence of black helicopters....when in fact many of our agencies use black helicopters for legitimate purposes.
 
2012-08-24 07:14:42 PM  

Silverstaff: Anything big and industrial, or large scale commercial and you're not going to find that on-post.


Imbecility becomes many farkers.
There are ways to tell the farkers who are white knights for the military-industrial complex, the first of which is reading their obsequious faux high-knowledge word constructions that are intended to reflect their cognoscenti insider-knowledge of all things secret and dark and special.
Very special operators are here on the internet and are typing HARD for your freedom.
 
2012-08-24 07:15:12 PM  

busy chillin': Painfully obvious thread theme music:

unmarked helicopters


LOL I looked up this particular youtube video of that song. Oh well, thanks for keeping the faith brother farker.
/should finally get that album in CD form instead of old school cassette and new school .mp3
 
2012-08-24 07:17:44 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Silverstaff: Anything big and industrial, or large scale commercial and you're not going to find that on-post.

Imbecility becomes many farkers.
There are ways to tell the farkers who are white knights for the military-industrial complex, the first of which is reading their obsequious faux high-knowledge word constructions that are intended to reflect their cognoscenti insider-knowledge of all things secret and dark and special.
Very special operators are here on the internet and are typing HARD for your freedom.


Bam.
 
2012-08-24 07:24:15 PM  
MIB 4... The aliens are coming
 
2012-08-24 07:24:57 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Absolutely no reason for special operations troops to be training with local civilian police.
No. Reason. At. All.


Except all the reasons there are, but you just tighten up that tinfoil, son.
 
2012-08-24 07:25:10 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Silverstaff: Anything big and industrial, or large scale commercial and you're not going to find that on-post.

Imbecility becomes many farkers.
There are ways to tell the farkers who are white knights for the military-industrial complex, the first of which is reading their obsequious faux high-knowledge word constructions that are intended to reflect their cognoscenti insider-knowledge of all things secret and dark and special.
Very special operators are here on the internet and are typing HARD for your freedom.


How many MOUT sites have you trained at?

I'm not Special Forces, but I am Army. I've kicked in plenty of doors, albeit only in training. I haven't combat deployed, just done a lot of training.

I'm not pretending to be a Green Beret, Ranger, Navy SEAL, Pararescue, or anything really elite. I'm a serviceman who is just commenting on something that is in my professional experience: the layout and structure of military urban training sites.

They are mostly replicas of small middle-eastern villages. There are a few that are replicas of suburban US that are used for disaster relief training. There are a couple that replicate larger middle-eastern or third-world towns.

MOUT sites aren't exactly secret. They are replica towns. You can find them on Google Earth if you go looking for them. Their layouts aren't secret. That we don't have sites for training operations in large industrial sites like power-plants or refineries isn't exactly a secret. If we have a MOUT site including such features on a military reservation in the US, give me the coordinates, let me verify it in Google Earth and I will happily admit I am wrong and apologize.

As for "white knighting", how has been stating facts like the existence of the ROBIN SAGE exercise and an educated guess about why they might be doing urban training off-post "white knighting"?
 
2012-08-24 07:25:21 PM  
Here comes the helicopter -- second time today
Everybody scatters and hopes it goes away
How many kids they've murdered only God can say
If I had a rocket launcher...I'd make somebody pay

userserve-ak.last.fm
 
2012-08-24 07:28:18 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Silverstaff: Anything big and industrial, or large scale commercial and you're not going to find that on-post.

Imbecility becomes many farkers.
There are ways to tell the farkers who are white knights for the military-industrial complex, the first of which is reading their obsequious faux high-knowledge word constructions that are intended to reflect their cognoscenti insider-knowledge of all things secret and dark and special.
Very special operators are here on the internet and are typing HARD for your freedom.


I just can't take any of your posts seriously after you revealed yourself to be a house husband.
 
2012-08-24 07:30:59 PM  
Are they attractive and successful helicopters?
 
2012-08-24 07:32:32 PM  

Silverstaff: Anything big and industrial, or large scale commercial and you're not going to find that on-post.


And this would be ... because why? Because the government just cannot afford realistic training facilities for SOCOM. Yeah, I understand.

Nothing personal, but this just sets me off. We spend more on the Imperial Guards than the next 27 wealthiest nations on earth combined and yet, never mind the black helicopters over Minneapolis. You sound like a typical paleoconservative, not a liberal as you self-identify. Paleocons are typically socially liberal and I've known many over the years and count many as close friends. That said, there are plenty of liberal fascists creeping around out there, especially since 9/11 legitimized their ideology and put them into happy league with the neocons. You wear the uniform, strap on the weapon and pin on the badge, you need to know why you do it. If you're doing it to prolong and support a system that keeps my 66-year-old mother from taking a drink of water aboard an airplane and gropes her breasts, you've entered the WRONG zone. Dress it up and call it a pig, it's still fascism.

Helos over Minneapolis? Please sir, may I have more?
 
2012-08-24 07:33:25 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom:
I just can't take any of your posts seriously after you revealed yourself to be a house husband.


Houses need love too!
 
2012-08-24 07:34:53 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: HotIgneous Intruder: Silverstaff: Anything big and industrial, or large scale commercial and you're not going to find that on-post.

Imbecility becomes many farkers.
There are ways to tell the farkers who are white knights for the military-industrial complex, the first of which is reading their obsequious faux high-knowledge word constructions that are intended to reflect their cognoscenti insider-knowledge of all things secret and dark and special.
Very special operators are here on the internet and are typing HARD for your freedom.

I just can't take any of your posts seriously after you revealed yourself to be a house husband.


Oh? That's probably something you don't have the guts or brains to do.
One thing among many, I'd guess.
 
2012-08-24 07:37:34 PM  

WelldeadLink: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom:
I just can't take any of your posts seriously after you revealed yourself to be a house husband.

Houses need love too!


You're right, that was uncalled for. Apologies all around.
 
2012-08-24 07:38:12 PM  

Silverstaff: How many MOUT sites have you trained at?


During my MOUT training, they taught us not to end sentences with propositions.

/TACTICAL TYPISTS, HOO-RAH!
// Silver Surfer: Look at me, I'm an INTELLIGENCE ANALYST and I'M ANNOUNCING IT ON FARK!
///Silver Surfer: Super secret, pinky promise clearance required to read my posts!
 
2012-08-24 07:40:04 PM  
Muphry's Law is in FULL play.

/preposition, ftw.
 
2012-08-24 07:41:40 PM  
Love to stay and chat about super secret pinky promise things, but I've got to deploy to the kitchen and observe suspicious cheeseburgers and report on their movements.

/Super Silver Surfer Secret!
 
2012-08-24 07:48:23 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Silverstaff: Anything big and industrial, or large scale commercial and you're not going to find that on-post.

And this would be ... because why? Because the government just cannot afford realistic training facilities for SOCOM. Yeah, I understand.

Nothing personal, but this just sets me off. We spend more on the Imperial Guards than the next 27 wealthiest nations on earth combined and yet, never mind the black helicopters over Minneapolis. You sound like a typical paleoconservative, not a liberal as you self-identify. Paleocons are typically socially liberal and I've known many over the years and count many as close friends. That said, there are plenty of liberal fascists creeping around out there, especially since 9/11 legitimized their ideology and put them into happy league with the neocons. You wear the uniform, strap on the weapon and pin on the badge, you need to know why you do it. If you're doing it to prolong and support a system that keeps my 66-year-old mother from taking a drink of water aboard an airplane and gropes her breasts, you've entered the WRONG zone. Dress it up and call it a pig, it's still fascism.

Helos over Minneapolis? Please sir, may I have more?


You are so abysmally blinded by your nonsense that you probably don't even see the idiocy of what you just typed. Go on with your bad self, though.
 
2012-08-24 07:50:23 PM  

lockers: Training? Or excercising plans for the coming mass arrest and FEMA imprisonment of the populace? Does Obama have no shame?


Do people actually believe this?
 
2012-08-24 07:53:33 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Silverstaff: How many MOUT sites have you trained at?

During my MOUT training, they taught us not to end sentences with propositions.

/TACTICAL TYPISTS, HOO-RAH!
// Silver Surfer: Look at me, I'm an INTELLIGENCE ANALYST and I'M ANNOUNCING IT ON FARK!
///Silver Surfer: Super secret, pinky promise clearance required to read my posts!


You must be the same douchebag who was trying to make fun of me for working at Disneyland.

You can't possibly be a house-husband. You clearly haven't even reached puberty yet.
 
2012-08-24 07:54:08 PM  
I never believed any of that black helicopter stuff (although it made for good entertainment in Vineland) until one day I was out running in the woods (of North Carolina), came up a hill, and a black helicopter rose up from behind it, right in front of me.

I could not have been more surprised if the Loch Ness Monster had come up out of the creek.
 
2012-08-24 07:55:37 PM  

fluffy2097: lockers: Training? Or excercising plans for the coming mass arrest and FEMA imprisonment of the populace? Does Obama have no shame?

Do people actually believe this?


As someone who lives in a conservative and rural area, I can tell you unequivocally yes. Many absoutly believe that.
 
2012-08-24 07:57:25 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Silverstaff: How many MOUT sites have you trained at?

During my MOUT training, they taught us not to end sentences with propositions.


Mae West was not your trainer, I take it.

/would end a sentence with a proposition
//on a Friday night
 
2012-08-24 08:00:02 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: Silverstaff: Anything big and industrial, or large scale commercial and you're not going to find that on-post.

And this would be ... because why? Because the government just cannot afford realistic training facilities for SOCOM. Yeah, I understand.

Nothing personal, but this just sets me off. We spend more on the Imperial Guards than the next 27 wealthiest nations on earth combined and yet, never mind the black helicopters over Minneapolis. You sound like a typical paleoconservative, not a liberal as you self-identify. Paleocons are typically socially liberal and I've known many over the years and count many as close friends. That said, there are plenty of liberal fascists creeping around out there, especially since 9/11 legitimized their ideology and put them into happy league with the neocons. You wear the uniform, strap on the weapon and pin on the badge, you need to know why you do it. If you're doing it to prolong and support a system that keeps my 66-year-old mother from taking a drink of water aboard an airplane and gropes her breasts, you've entered the WRONG zone. Dress it up and call it a pig, it's still fascism.

Helos over Minneapolis? Please sir, may I have more?


Pretty sure paleocons (e.g., Pat Buchanan) are anti-war & anti-military-industrial-complex. You seem to be suggesting otherwise.
 
2012-08-24 08:00:49 PM  

fluffy2097: Do people actually believe this?


Unfortunately yes, they are the same people who claimed Bush was going to stop the 08 election by declaring martial law, and of course there is a group claiming Obama is going to do the same thing this year which I think is the same group that claimed Bush was going to do it. They also have some strange theories about Yucca Mountain.
 
2012-08-24 08:07:31 PM  
"I will end a sentence anyway I want," Crate said.

Addison agreed.

They drank.
 
2012-08-24 08:18:09 PM  

office_despot: I never believed any of that black helicopter stuff (although it made for good entertainment in Vineland) until one day I was out running in the woods (of North Carolina), came up a hill, and a black helicopter rose up from behind it, right in front of me.

I could not have been more surprised if the Loch Ness Monster had come up out of the creek.


That's what happens when you are near a military training area. I got buzzed by a couple of black helicopters in eastern washington once too, but this was near a military base so I figure they were just out practicing.
 
2012-08-24 08:26:04 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: HotIgneous Intruder: Silverstaff: Anything big and industrial, or large scale commercial and you're not going to find that on-post.

Imbecility becomes many farkers.
There are ways to tell the farkers who are white knights for the military-industrial complex, the first of which is reading their obsequious faux high-knowledge word constructions that are intended to reflect their cognoscenti insider-knowledge of all things secret and dark and special.
Very special operators are here on the internet and are typing HARD for your freedom.

I just can't take any of your posts seriously after you revealed yourself to be a house husband.


He certainly has no credibility talking down to an active/reserve (the details are unimportant to me, but I do mean to respect Silverstaff's service and lack of ITGness) military personnel about anything regarding military training practices.

I might take a house husband's advice as to what soap operas have gotten farking retarded though.
 
2012-08-24 08:30:04 PM  
HOVERINES!!!!

/stolen shamelessly from the judge head thread
 
2012-08-24 08:48:16 PM  

Silverstaff: It is proof that military training exercises, including USSOCOM ones, are done off a military reservation.


Had my first taste of rattlesnake as part of an off-post training mission in the mountains of North Kakalakky back in the 80s.

Our biggest eye-opening mission brief was "nobody goes anywhere without 3 others, the hicks up here will kill your for that M16."
 
2012-08-24 08:57:47 PM  
Don't worry fellow Twin-Citiens, those are just civililian military helicopters flying over your head.
 
2012-08-24 09:04:40 PM  

Silverstaff: GoodDoctorB: Silverstaff: HotIgneous Intruder: Absolutely no reason for special operations troops to be training with local civilian police.
No. Reason. At. All.

Bzzt. Wrong.

US Special Forces trains with the local civilian population of North Carolina on a regular basis, for example.

Operation ROBIN SAGE is Phase IV of US Army Special Forces training, conducted over 28 days and across 15 counties of North Carolina, where the Green Beret-trainees interact with local civilians who are in on the training scenario (the 15 counties depict the "People's Republic of Pineland" a fictional totalitarian state with the people wanting to rise up in a revolution).

Wow, what brand of tinfoil do YOU use?

Your hat gets way better reception than mine.

Tinfoil? WTF?

USSOCOM's Official Press Release about ROBIN SAGE. . .to let the civilians of North Carolina know military training exercises will be happening off-post.

Part of Robin Sage on Youtube Seeing is believing.

Globalsecurity.org's entry on Exercise Robin Sage

Wikipedia entry for Robin Sage, part of the article on Special Forces training Is a Wiki article a good source for you?

It's not like it's a secret, or contested, or any kind of conspiracy theory.

HotIgneous Intruder:
It's not North Carolina, asshole.

/Let the mission creep right up your anus.

Did you get an extra scoop of Hostile in your cereal this morning? Tune the Jerk setting down.

It is proof that military training exercises, including USSOCOM ones, are done off a military reservation.

From the article, it sounds like they coordinated with a private landowner to use private property for a training exercise. We don't know the details, but it could be something like an abandoned mall, a closed factory or such they are using for MOUT (Military Operations in Urban Terrain) training that isn't available at normal military bases.

If you were training for a stealthy raid on a refinery or factory that incapacitates the plant, with the deniabiltiy that comes from it NOT exploding from a cruise missile or hellfire missile strike, insertion of some operators to sabotage it would be a good option. (wild-ass guess) Want to train to sabotage an Iranian nuclear plant? That would be a good way to do it(/wild-ass guess)

Military MOUT sites are typically oriented towards mimicking small villages in countries ending with -stan. A few streets with one-room buildings and maybe a couple of small two-story shacks are typical.

Anything big and industrial, or large scale commercial and you're not going to find that on-post.


For the record... I couldn't agree more. My bad, sarcastic joke was that since he had a legitimate, reasonable scenario that could very possibly explain the presence of the helicopters... As opposed to the rest of the wild, baseless drivel being spouted.... HIS "tinfoil hat" must actually be working, feeding him plausibility instead of derpy-doo nonsense.

No? No.

I'll stick to the photoshops.
 
2012-08-24 09:21:09 PM  
So Wednesday and now Friday are the days that the UN is the Evil Satanic Illuminati New World Order Black Helicopter conspiracy, as opposed to the Gang that Can't Shoot Straight. Or maybe it's even versus odd days of the month.
 
2012-08-24 09:29:51 PM  
Yeah, training TO PUT US IN THE FEMA CAMPS UNDERNEATH DENVER INTERNATIONAL SO THAT WE CAN BECOME FOOD AND LABORERS FOR THE REPTILIANS.

also 9/11
 
2012-08-24 09:37:16 PM  

Silverstaff: HotIgneous Intruder: Absolutely no reason for special operations troops to be training with local civilian police.
No. Reason. At. All.

Bzzt. Wrong.

US Special Forces trains with the local civilian population of North Carolina on a regular basis, for example.

Operation ROBIN SAGE is Phase IV of US Army Special Forces training, conducted over 28 days and across 15 counties of North Carolina, where the Green Beret-trainees interact with local civilians who are in on the training scenario (the 15 counties depict the "People's Republic of Pineland" a fictional totalitarian state with the people wanting to rise up in a revolution).


No wonder there....
 
2012-08-24 09:57:26 PM  
So don't be a JAFO is basically what they are saying.
 
2012-08-24 10:11:15 PM  
What if you're color-blind?
 
2012-08-24 10:16:09 PM  

strapp3r: HOVERINES!!!!

/stolen shamelessly from the judge head thread


My hoverines are full of eels.
 
2012-08-24 10:21:37 PM  
Operators fear the day the black Chinook comes and takes away their command.
 
2012-08-24 10:25:21 PM  
No V22's! Really disapointed.
 
2012-08-24 10:49:16 PM  

Deep Contact: No V22's! Really disapointed.


Osprey awe-sprays?
 
2012-08-25 12:18:06 AM  

mama2tnt: I saw 'em, but only after drinking snorting 100 bees.


fixed
 
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