21 years seems like a light sentence.

Smug bastard.

Bonanza Jellybean: 21 years seems like a light sentence.

Definitely. After almost 80 people were killed? That's nowhere near long enough.

The picture says otherwise.

Bonanza Jellybean: 21 years seems like a light sentence.

He only killed 77 people and says he'd love to do it again. 21 years seems harsh, if anything.

These newsflashes are getting out of hand.

Insatiable Jesus: The picture says otherwise.

Yeah, I lul'd when I saw the pic they chose.

Bonanza Jellybean: 21 years seems like a light sentence.

Since the goal is not just to punish the criminal, but to rehabilitate him to become a productive and normalized member of society, 21 years may be enough if he comes to understand what he has done is completely wrong.

Bonanza Jellybean: 21 years seems like a light sentence.

How so? He is serving over 3 months per murder. Every 3 months he has to think about a new person he killed. Would you suggest something barbaric like having to ponder a murder for 4 months? You're an animal.

Hey, Breivik, how big is your brain?



Thank you, Breivik

21 in Earth years or Uranus years?

cman: There is also a very good chance that he will, too

And if he's no longer a danger to society, shouldn't he be? Wouldn't you rather he worked for a living?

0/10 is really not a harsh enough sentence for some of this

One of my best friends, after ingesting a copious amount of mushrooms, ended up shooting a cop, naked, with her own gun.

Nobody died.

He got 22 years.

WTF

His crusade against muslims would have made a lot more sense if he had gone and killed a bunch of muslims instead of a bunch of kids at camp.

Legally "not crazy" is always a little unsatisfying when someone clearly is a few sandwiches short of a picnic.

Bathia_Mapes: cman: Bathia_Mapes: Bonanza Jellybean: 21 years seems like a light sentence.

Did you RTA?

21 years is the maximum sentence in Norway, but it can be extended indefinitely if the criminal poses a danger to society at the end of served time.

In other words, there's a very good chance that he'll never be released from prison.

There is also a very good chance that he will, too

I disagree. I think he'll end up like Charles Manson.

It'll be funny watching his release hearings. They'll probably go over about as well as Manson's parole hearings.

lyndsayj: Bonanza Jellybean: 21 years seems like a light sentence.

Definitely. After almost 80 people were killed? That's nowhere near long enough.

Breaking news from Ric Romero: Other countries have justice systems that function differently from yours. May also have funny electrical outlets.

scottyvr6: One of my best friends, after ingesting a copious amount of mushrooms, ended up shooting a cop, naked, with her own gun.

Nobody died.

He got 22 years.

WTF

how do you shoot a cop naked?


he must have great aim to shoot the pants off a cop

cman: Bonanza Jellybean: 21 years seems like a light sentence.

What else did you expect from a Liberal justice system?

Some prisons have tanning beds and steak and other things like that

It sounds like their "Liberal justice system" is vastly superior to our own:

The recidivism rate for prisoners in Norway is around 20 percent. Meanwhile, it's estimated that 67 percent of America's prisoners are re-arrested and 52 percent are re-incarcerated.

You reap what you sow. If you treat prisoners like human beings, the vast majority act like human beings when they're released. We ignore that, and treat our prisoners like monsters. Guess what we get back?

Derp'd in one.

Bathia_Mapes: cman: Bonanza Jellybean: 21 years seems like a light sentence.

What else did you expect from a Liberal justice system?

Some prisons have tanning beds and steak and other things like that

21 years is the maximum sentence in Norway, but it can be extended indefinitely if the criminal poses a danger to society at the end of served time.

Subby here. The only thing that frustrates me about this ruling is that had he been declared insane, he would have been locked up indefinitely without the ability to continue spouting off his agenda. As it stands now, he will still be locked up for the rest of his life (probably), but during his stay in prison he will be able to write and send manifestos and continue to taunt the families of the victims.

It's funny... I'm more bothered about the ruling than any of my coworkers seem to be. The Norwegians are taking it in stride... it's just another day. The Americans working here (myself included) are the ones wanting revenge. I think the Norwegians probably are the ones with the right attitude.

cman: Norway isnt the United States

[citation needed]

cman: I know that. It is also against EU rules. No EU member can use capital punishment.

Norway is in the EEA, but not the EU. They're too rich to find a use for us chumps who got stuck with the euro!

The sentence would have been vastly different had he killed 78 people

At first I thought I read it wrong. 21 years, with a 10 year minimum? For killing OVER SEVENTY PEOPLE? I mean, fine if you don't want to be a death penalty country, but there's no way this man should ever see the light of day again.

Want to murder people? Visit Norway, where the sentence for murder is less than 100 days in jail per person killed!

/Visit in the next two weeks, and kill any 2 people, and we promise Norway won't sentence you for the 3rd!

Look I dunno much about life in prison, but I think there may be a chance he gets killed in prison. I mean, he doesn't seem like Mr Alpha Personality.

farkingismybusiness: Bathia_Mapes: cman: Bonanza Jellybean: 21 years seems like a light sentence.

What else did you expect from a Liberal justice system?

Some prisons have tanning beds and steak and other things like that

21 years is the maximum sentence in Norway, but it can be extended indefinitely if the criminal poses a danger to society at the end of served time.

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Wait, is that Varg Vikarnes? He now runs a small farm not far from me.

Still pretends he's a viking though

Yep, people don't like reading the farking article.

"WHAAAAAAT? ONLY 21 YEEEEARS?"

Who cares? Any updates on Todd Akin or Chick-Fil-A?

Virtuoso80: At first I thought I read it wrong. 21 years, with a 10 year minimum? For killing OVER SEVENTY PEOPLE? I mean, fine if you don't want to be a death penalty country, but there's no way this man should ever see the light of day again.

Yeesh, it's been explained both in the article and multiple times in this thread:

"Norway's penal code does not have the death penalty or life in prison, and the maximum prison term for Breivik's charges is 21 years. However, inmates who after that are still considered a threat to society can be held indefinitely."

21 years is the maximum sentence the judge can give. After that, they can hold him indefinitely.

Since it seems the Norwegians are too busy having lunch right now...

...guys, after the 21 year sentence has been served, Breivik will remain in protective custody (forvaring) for the rest of his life. Now, what most people miss is that forvaring is partly for the benefit of Breivik as well. They HAVE to keep him in custody because he'd be a farking dead man the moment he was let go.

As long as Breivik is a danger to society AND as long as society is a danger to Breivik...he ain't going nowhere. He (hypothetically) might one day come to his senses and realize what he did was abominable, but there will never come a day when someone wouldn't try to blow him away should the chance come.

"Wonder Twins Power, activate...wait, where's my twin?"

Brevik was tried and found guilty based on the laws prior and up-to the murders. If Norway wants to up their life sentence laws they can, but cannot retroactively use them on this case (imo).

That was the problem with the Nuremburg Trials- citing genocide as a crime and convicting those charged with it as genocide was not technically a crime.

/yup, it sucks
//sorry for the early Godwin