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(Politico)   So much for popcorn futures... thanks to negotiations by Romney lawyers, RON PAUL will neither speak nor be nominated at next week's RNC   (politico.com) divider line 72
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2012-08-24 12:44:15 AM
Whooo! RON PAU---

Oh, wait...
 
2012-08-24 12:47:27 AM
So in other words, Mitt bought him off

/everyone has their price
 
2012-08-24 12:49:19 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: So in other words, Mitt bought him off

/everyone has their price


Mine is exactly $176.37
 
2012-08-24 12:59:02 AM

video man: MaudlinMutantMollusk: So in other words, Mitt bought him off

/everyone has their price

Mine is exactly $176.37


Wireless bill due?

/I feel ya
 
2012-08-24 01:19:35 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: video man: MaudlinMutantMollusk: So in other words, Mitt bought him off

/everyone has their price

Mine is exactly $176.37

Wireless bill due?

/I feel ya


No, my share of the electric bill.
 
2012-08-24 01:22:27 AM

video man: MaudlinMutantMollusk: video man: MaudlinMutantMollusk: So in other words, Mitt bought him off

/everyone has their price

Mine is exactly $176.37

Wireless bill due?

/I feel ya

No, my share of the electric bill.


Ah

/I guess you can tell which of my bills is currently looming
 
2012-08-24 06:31:18 AM
I was assured there would be a category RONPAUL derpicane hitting the GOP convention!
 
2012-08-24 08:17:17 AM
And people keep asking why Ron Paul runs. Four years from now, they'll ask again.
 
2012-08-24 08:43:41 AM
Time to invest all those contributions in a 'fact finding' expedition to the Bahamas
 
2012-08-24 08:43:58 AM

vygramul: And people keep asking why Ron Paul runs. Four years from now, they'll ask again.


Didn't he say this year was going to be his last?

/Unless a politician...lied?
 
2012-08-24 08:44:30 AM
Well there you go. The rich man wins again. The only question is how? Was it straight cash, or were there some threats thrown in?
 
2012-08-24 08:44:37 AM
My Paultard buddy STILL believes!

img.photobucket.com

/submitted this with less informative headline.
 
2012-08-24 08:47:14 AM

domino324: Well there you go. The rich man wins again. The only question is how? Was it straight cash, or were there some threats thrown in?


Nope, just yet another election cycle where RP siphons millions of dollars from naive pseudo-libertarians, hires friends and family for a year of luxury "campaigning", quits with a huge war chest left, and runs off into the sunset.

AGAIN.

I guess this is the free market at work.
 
2012-08-24 08:48:04 AM

vygramul: And people keep asking why Ron Paul runs. Four years from now, they'll ask again.


You think he'll do it again in '16? He'll be like 85 years old.
 
2012-08-24 08:50:34 AM
So basically all of his followers exist to get him a seat at a bargaining table where he sells his silence.
 
2012-08-24 08:51:36 AM
"It was a fair hearing, and I thought it was an acceptable environment," Stearns added. "The majority rules, and the will of [the] minority shall be heard. It's unfortunate, but that's the circumstances we have right now."

The will of the minority shall be beard, but Ron Paul isn't allowed to speak?
 
2012-08-24 08:52:27 AM
RON PAUL supporters are sane and intelligent people.

/No, no they are not.
 
2012-08-24 08:53:31 AM
Dear media:

Stop referring to Ron Paul as a "libertarian". He is not. He's a hyper-conservative neo-confederate who would gladly let state governments oppress women, minorities, and the poor.

That's not libertarianism.
 
2012-08-24 08:54:35 AM
RON PULLED
 
2012-08-24 08:55:37 AM
Damn it, now the most exciting thing at the convention will most likely be the hurricane.
 
2012-08-24 08:58:02 AM

mat catastrophe: Dear media:

Stop referring to Ron Paul as a "libertarian". He is not. He's a hyper-conservative neo-confederate who would gladly let state governments oppress women, minorities, and the poor.

That's not libertarianism.


I don't think this can be stressed enough. RON PAUL is perfectly OK with the government shiatting all over your civil liberties as long as it happens on a state level.
 
2012-08-24 09:00:35 AM
Hey GOP, throw me some cash, and I won't go either. Promise!
 
2012-08-24 09:03:02 AM

Garaba: Damn it, now the most exciting thing at the convention will most likely be the hurricane.


Unless the fundies decide having Paul Ryan as VP isn't good enough, and go for second amendment remedies.
 
2012-08-24 09:03:09 AM
Probably was 30 silver dimes...
 
2012-08-24 09:06:34 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: So in other words, Mitt bought him off



He probably just gave him a few pieces of gold. Keeps Ron Paul happy and believing that somebody in his party is listening to his bullshiate, and it's easier to write off on your taxes, if you're into paying those honestly. Not everybody is, I've been told.
 
2012-08-24 09:07:46 AM

mat catastrophe: That's not libertarianism.


Maybe not in word, but it is the practical effect of a policy which prevents a strong federal government from keeping the states in check
 
2012-08-24 09:08:21 AM

NateGrey: RON PAUL supporters are sane and intelligent people.

/No, no they are not.


I rode my bike past a house last night with a big RON PAUL 2012 placard in his front window. It filled the full picture window. It made him look like he was one step above the guy with the Confederate Flag in his front window on the evolutionary scale.
 
2012-08-24 09:08:56 AM

mat catastrophe: Stop referring to Ron Paul as a "libertarian". He is not. He's a hyper-conservative neo-confederate who would gladly let state governments oppress women, minorities, and the poor.


Yeah, like you said, he's a Republican. What's the problem?
 
2012-08-24 09:09:06 AM

HotWingConspiracy: So basically all of his followers exist to get him a seat at a bargaining table where he sells his silence.


MaudlinMutantMollusk: So in other words, Mitt bought him off

/everyone has their price


All of THAT. I am absolutely delighted that RON PAUL has basically been bought off. It takes a whole lot of naiveté and disingenuity to be a Paultard, and I shall delight rubbing these little factoids in their faces.
 
2012-08-24 09:09:11 AM
Stoners are going to rise in a revolution against this injustice! Or, they'll just eat more Doritos.
 
2012-08-24 09:12:59 AM
So the Paulistinians won't be voting for Romney or Obama.

Who will they vote for, or will they just sit this election out as always?
 
2012-08-24 09:14:43 AM

mat catastrophe: Dear media:

Stop referring to Ron Paul as a "libertarian". He is not. He's a hyper-conservative neo-confederate who would gladly let state governments oppress women, minorities, and the poor.

That's not libertarianism.


Not a troll-question: Isn't that what libertarianism is? Every time I've talked to a libertarian, their principal concern is that government shouldn't interfere with personal decisions like who is denied service for any reason. When the inevitability of racism/sexism/etc. is brought up, they always appeal to some nebulous force of "society" that wouldn't let that happen. "Well I would never eat at a restaurant that advertised For Whites Only. The free market would drive them out of business."
 
2012-08-24 09:15:00 AM

Zerochance: My Paultard buddy STILL believes!

[img.photobucket.com image 480x252]

/submitted this with less informative headline.


Why do people even bother blacking out names from facebook? You're trying to shame the person by posting their comments so farking SHAME THEM.
 
2012-08-24 09:16:22 AM
So Ron Paul kissing Romneys ass and never attacking paid off as everyone not a delusional Ron Paul fan thought it would? Shocking.
 
2012-08-24 09:16:35 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: So in other words, Mitt bought him off

/everyone has their price


He didn't even have to. While Ron Paul's supporters are extremely zealous, Ron Paul himself doesn't give a shiat. He's been carrying Romney's water since last summer. His feeling--and he basically even said it at one point--is that "Mitt Romney seems to be a nice family man. I'd be happy to step aside for him". The closest Romney had to come to "buying him off" was to spout some nudge nudge wink wink about auditing the Fed.
 
2012-08-24 09:17:13 AM

Zerochance: mat catastrophe: Dear media:

Stop referring to Ron Paul as a "libertarian". He is not. He's a hyper-conservative neo-confederate who would gladly let state governments oppress women, minorities, and the poor.

That's not libertarianism.

I don't think this can be stressed enough. RON PAUL is perfectly OK with the government shiatting all over your civil liberties as long as it happens on a state level.


Well then, I guess the few libertarians I know aren't libertarians after all, since they feel the same way.

I'm not sure what they are though, since they like to think the local government is easier to fix if they start stomping on your civil liberties. It's not, oddly enough, because people don't pay attention to local politics until it is far too late.

Maybe they would start paying attention if it changed, but I doubt it. The majority of people ignore local politics to focus on other things in their life, like putting food on the table and worrying about their electric and phone bills :P
 
2012-08-24 09:18:11 AM

dababler: Zerochance: My Paultard buddy STILL believes!

[img.photobucket.com image 480x252]

/submitted this with less informative headline.

Why do people even bother blacking out names from facebook? You're trying to shame the person by posting their comments so farking SHAME THEM.


Because he's still a buddy? We take the piss out of each other politics-wise but in the end it's just friendly fire. He's a good guy. Good dad to his kids.
 
2012-08-24 09:21:19 AM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Not a troll-question: Isn't that what libertarianism is?


Depends a lot on who you talk to. It's a very poorly defined idea set. I'll assume we're talking about the more intelligent libertarians rather than the nutballs like the teabaggers.

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Every time I've talked to a libertarian, their principal concern is that government shouldn't interfere with personal decisions like who is denied service for any reason.


The main concern that libertarians seem to have is with this interference on a Federal level because they find that to be oppressive - while oppression on a state level is OK because they have a larger granularity of voting power and movement from local area to local area is easier than movement from nation to nation. They believe that government shouldn't interfere, as a general principle, but also want to allow local government to interfere if that's what their electorate wants.

LouDobbsAwaaaay: When the inevitability of racism/sexism/etc. is brought up, they always appeal to some nebulous force of "society" that wouldn't let that happen. "Well I would never eat at a restaurant that advertised For Whites Only. The free market would drive them out of business."


Which is libertarianism's fundamental flaw. They understand the cut-throat nature of free market capitalism when they're talking about how it would drive innovation (and many libertarians are for nebulous ideas like nonspecific anti-monopoly laws), but don't think that same human nature applies to social dealings. People are assholes, and libertarians expect people to focus all of that asshole nature on business.
 
2012-08-24 09:25:04 AM

meat0918: I'm not sure what they are though, since they like to think the local government is easier to fix if they start stomping on your civil liberties.


That is completely relative to what state you live in though. I'm in Kentucky, which needless to say, is an evangelical red-ass state. I can't see gay marriage ever being legal here unless it comes on down from a federal level. Hell, we just got rid of common law marriage laws, and they mostly affected straight couples. Sometimes, you do have to force people into acting rightly. This is never ideal, but it's at least pragmatic.
 
2012-08-24 09:27:44 AM

Rev. Skarekroe: vygramul: And people keep asking why Ron Paul runs. Four years from now, they'll ask again.

You think he'll do it again in '16? He'll be like 85 years old.


Probably have more upstairs than Reagan did in 84.

/Not a Paul fan
 
2012-08-24 09:28:35 AM
Tent's Closed.
 
2012-08-24 09:33:20 AM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: mat catastrophe: Dear media:

Stop referring to Ron Paul as a "libertarian". He is not. He's a hyper-conservative neo-confederate who would gladly let state governments oppress women, minorities, and the poor.

That's not libertarianism.

Not a troll-question: Isn't that what libertarianism is? Every time I've talked to a libertarian, their principal concern is that government shouldn't interfere with personal decisions like who is denied service for any reason. When the inevitability of racism/sexism/etc. is brought up, they always appeal to some nebulous force of "society" that wouldn't let that happen. "Well I would never eat at a restaurant that advertised For Whites Only. The free market would drive them out of business."


That part of it fairly libertarian, but if you look at what Ron Paul and many other libertarians say, it appears they would be fine with state-level bans on abortion, or birth control, or whatever - which is the point that Zerochance made above.

Actual libertarianism would preclude state interference in private individual's lives. The divide then comes between individualists who deny any community or communitarians who deny any individualism.

My preference would be a sensible balance of the two, where businesses are not treated as individuals and individuals are not treated as cattle.
 
2012-08-24 09:35:22 AM

Zerochance: My Paultard buddy STILL believes!


He's not the only one.

From the comments on Washington Post:

Paul has a real chance to be nominated. This is not over, not by far. The blatent illegal dealings by the RNC and Romney camp are coming under fire and it will be messy. They are going to force delegates into an uproar on the convention floor. We have lost our free election process because the powers that be are scared to death that the people will get what they want. Paul as the nominee. Just read the headline of the article and you can see that this has gone too far. There are now no holds barred. This is going to be fierce and savage like, as the media does their last ditch efforts in concert with the RNC to take down the man that people desperately want to run as the Republican nominee. We have lost our freedoms and rights and you now know who to blame for that.

Sometimes I wish I could believe something that hard. It must be an interesting way to go through life.
 
2012-08-24 09:35:50 AM

Joe Six-Keg: Probably was 30 silver dimes...


What you did there. I see it.
 
2012-08-24 09:35:54 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: So in other words, Mitt bought him off

/everyone has their price


i49.tinypic.com
 
2012-08-24 09:38:15 AM

mat catastrophe: Dear media:

Stop referring to Ron Paul as a "libertarian". He is not. He's a hyper-conservative neo-confederate who would gladly let state governments oppress women, minorities, and the poor.

That's not libertarianism.


This man is correct. Libertarianism is whatever those who call themselves libertarians think is okay at the time. It's mostly a movement of reflexively contrary selfishness.
 
2012-08-24 09:38:49 AM

mat catastrophe: That part of it fairly libertarian, but if you look at what Ron Paul and many other libertarians say, it appears they would be fine with state-level bans on abortion, or birth control, or whatever - which is the point that Zerochance made above.


On a conversation on federal powers????? OMFG shut everything down. Now ask any libertarian friend on whether your state and your local should have the power and most will say no.
 
2012-08-24 09:40:21 AM

Saiga410: mat catastrophe: That part of it fairly libertarian, but if you look at what Ron Paul and many other libertarians say, it appears they would be fine with state-level bans on abortion, or birth control, or whatever - which is the point that Zerochance made above.

On a conversation on federal powers????? OMFG shut everything down. Now ask any libertarian friend on whether your state and your local should have the power and most will say no.


Which is why Ron Paul is not actually a libertarian. He would say yes.
 
2012-08-24 09:40:28 AM
Sorry. The fact that he assigned his lawyers the job of making sure Ron Paul gets no voice at the convention while at the same time inviting Donald Trump to take part in whatever idiotic show they have planned only solidifies my opinion that Rmoney is a douche.
 
2012-08-24 09:40:44 AM

Epoch_Zero: This man is correct. Libertarianism is whatever those who call themselves libertarians think is okay at the time. It's mostly a movement of reflexively contrary selfishness.


Right. Like I said previously, they're Republicans.
 
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