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		Feminist progress now largely depends on the hookup culture, and it is women who are perpetuating the culture. For college girls, an overly serious suitor is like an accidental pregnancy; a danger that can get in the way of a promising future (theatlantic.com)		136
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RoyBatty		2012-08-23 07:56:27 PM

Too old for High School Teachers to abuse me. Too old for college hookup culture.

Time to die.

Mugato		2012-08-23 08:08:23 PM

So there was a time where there wasn't a "college hookup culture"? And now the women are somehow victims of it? Guys in college...it sucks to be you.

FirstNationalBastard		2012-08-23 08:18:17 PM

Yay sluts?

Lsherm		2012-08-23 08:49:10 PM

Mugato: So there was a time where there wasn't a "college hookup culture"? And now the women are somehow victims of it? Guys in college...it sucks to be you.

There always was, I think the pool of applicants is just a lot larger now.

But yeah, even back in the 80's I had a woman I didn't know at a bar ask me "Can I have a taste of your meat?" because I was eating a steak at the bar after an exam. You better farking believe we hooked up. We didn't even exchange names, and this was during the initial AIDS scare era. Hell, we never left the bar because my roommate was the manager. We just waited for closing and "borrowed" the office while he cleaned up.

/ahhh, youth.
//never saw that woman again, but I was so drunk I couldn't remember what she looked like the next day
///definitely not a fatty, but serious 80's bush
////possibly a fatty
//definitely DID NOT smell like a wet horse drenched in nail polish remover

Mugato		2012-08-23 08:53:22 PM

Lsherm: //never saw that woman again, but I was so drunk I couldn't remember what she looked like the next day

And if she was drunk too, you could have been brought up on rape charges.

/maybe not republican rape but rape nonetheless
//said rape twice

Party Boy		2012-08-23 09:16:12 PM

Mugato: And if she was drunk too, you could have been brought up on rape charges

I heard from a congressperson on the Committee on Science, Space and Technology that you don't even need protection if it falls under this type of intercourse

Shostie		2012-08-23 09:20:07 PM

~feminism...?

Fano		2012-08-23 09:47:35 PM

RoyBatty: Too old for High School Teachers to abuse me. Too old for college hookup culture.

Time to die.

...like spunk in the rain?

skilbride		2012-08-23 09:47:51 PM

I slept with a ton of guys in college but it had nothing to do with feminism. It has to do with the fact that I like sex.

belhade		2012-08-23 09:48:51 PM

MorePeasPlease		2012-08-23 09:48:55 PM

RoyBatty: Too old for High School Teachers to abuse me. Too old for college hookup culture.

Time to die.

There's always rest home molestation.
You know you want more life, farker.

dbubb		2012-08-23 09:49:41 PM

Mugato: Lsherm: //never saw that woman again, but I was so drunk I couldn't remember what she looked like the next day

And if she was drunk too, you could have been brought up on rape charges.

/maybe not republican rape but rape nonetheless
//said rape twice

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dlp211		2012-08-23 09:50:24 PM

skilbride: I slept with a ton of guys in college but it had nothing to do with feminism. It has to do with the fact that I like sex.

Pics or it didn't happen

MorePeasPlease		2012-08-23 09:52:11 PM

skilbride: I slept with a ton of guys in college but it had nothing to do with feminism. It has to do with the fact that I like sex.

It must've been a busy night!

/keed, I do.

Ehh		2012-08-23 09:52:25 PM

If all the girls who attended the Yale prom were laid end to end, I wouldn't be a bit surprised.
--Dorothy Parker, who died in 1967

Party Boy		2012-08-23 09:52:55 PM

Too soon?

ModernLuddite		2012-08-23 09:54:37 PM

Roast beef vagina = feminist.

lockers		2012-08-23 09:55:26 PM

AverageAmericanGuy		2012-08-23 09:56:47 PM

If feminist progress is predicated on women rejecting romance and real relationships, then it is an ethos that is useless and dangerous to its adherents.

vudukungfu		2012-08-23 09:57:18 PM

What's your major?

Psychology.
Daddy issues. Fark me now and leave me alone. Me so horney.

Abnormal Phyche.
Do me in the ass handcuffed. I'll write a paper about it later.

History.
I'll stalk you and boil you bunnies.

Child Psychology.
Seriously farked up. Run.

What's yours?
Intriguing. Ask another question.

Computer science and working on an MBA in corporate law.
Keeper.

Culinary Science.
Make me a sammich Imma brag about to my homies.

Mugato		2012-08-23 09:57:40 PM

skilbride: I slept with a ton of guys in college but it had nothing to do with feminism. It has to do with the fact that I like sex.

In a row?

fusillade762		2012-08-23 09:57:53 PM

Damn, I missed out. Granted I was kind of a late bloomer.

Old Smokie		2012-08-23 09:57:56 PM

I wonder if the college guys these gals are farking feel as if they are empowering the women?

Solid Muldoon		2012-08-23 09:58:31 PM

Which is why abortion should be legal until the 57th trimester.

GranoblasticMan		2012-08-23 09:59:15 PM

And I still won't get laid.

Palmer Eldritch		2012-08-23 10:00:04 PM

This is useful information, but it's kind of pointless to post it on a forum frequented by people who couldn't get laid in a women's prison with a fistful of pardons.

Mr. Potatoass		2012-08-23 10:00:16 PM

skilbride: I~~slept with a ton of guys in college but it had nothing to do with feminism. It has to do with the fact that I like sex~~'m no stranger to chlamydia.

MorePeasPlease		2012-08-23 10:00:45 PM

One sorority girl, a junior with a beautiful tan, long dark hair, and a great figure, whom I'll call Tali, told me that freshman year she, like many of her peers, was high on her first taste of the hookup culture and didn't want a boyfriend. "It was empowering, to have that kind of control," she recalls. "Guys were texting and calling me all the time, and I was turning them down. I really enjoyed it! I had these options to hook up if I wanted them, and no one would judge me for it." But then, sometime during sophomore year, her feelings changed. She got tired of relationships that just faded away, "no end, no beginning." Like many of the other college women I talked with, Tali and her friends seemed much more sexually experienced and knowing than my friends at college. They were as blasé about blow jobs and anal sex as the one girl I remember from my junior year whom we all considered destined for a tragic early marriage or an asylum. But they were also more innocent. When I asked Tali what she really wanted, she didn't say anything about commitment or marriage or a return to a more chivalrous age. "Some guy to ask me out on a date to the frozen-yogurt place," she said. That's it. A $3 date.

social.bioware.com

ZombiesYall		2012-08-23 10:01:10 PM

Ist wave: we want to vote!
2nd wave: equal pay!
3rd wave: hey y'all, look at my boobs!

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist		2012-08-23 10:01:25 PM

GranoblasticMan		2012-08-23 10:01:55 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: If feminist progress is predicated on women rejecting romance and real relationships, then it is an ethos that is useless and dangerous to its adherents.

Or, y'know, there's a portion of the population that like sex but see no need for relationships.

Linkster		2012-08-23 10:02:44 PM

skilbride: I slept with a ton of guys in college but it had nothing to do with feminism. It has to do with the fact that I like sex.

How YOU Doin'!?

GhostFish		2012-08-23 10:05:18 PM

Who the fark has time to seriously date while taking classes and possibly also working? Relationships take time and organization that is not easily attained while in school.

It's the same deal as with the diets of college students. Sure, eating better might be preferable but they don't have the resources (time/money/living space) to make that realistic. But their bodies still crave food, and so they eat shiat.

Students don't have the resources for real relationships, but their minds and bodies still crave intimacy and sex. So the relationships they do have are of the fast food convenience variety.

The students aren't to blame for taking what they can get and doing their best with it, male or female.

LegacyDL		2012-08-23 10:06:22 PM

Look I'm all for enjoyment of sex and all but there has to be a distinction being made where you can enjoy sex because it's sex and enjoying how you attain sex because it puts you on equal footing with men.

This is why double standards will continue to exist as to how many people a guy sleeps with in comparison with a girl's tally.

Mr. Potatoass		2012-08-23 10:10:16 PM

RoyBatty: Too old for High School Teachers to abuse me. Too old for college hookup culture.

Time to die.

Read that three times before I caught it.

/Well done, sir.

PanicMan		2012-08-23 10:12:16 PM

Okay. Who cares? Go have fun.

/Protip: This is less likely to happen at engineering schools.

12349876		2012-08-23 10:13:39 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: If feminist progress is predicated on women rejecting romance and real relationships, then it is an ethos that is useless and dangerous to its adherents.

Or they're just waiting until they're financially independent and emotionally mature and having some fun on the side while working towards those two things rather than being on 16 and Pregnant or Teen Mom.

taurusowner		2012-08-23 10:14:01 PM

MorePeasPlease: "It was empowering, to have that kind of control," she recalls. "Guys were texting and calling me all the time, and I was turning them down. I really enjoyed it! I had these options to hook up if I wanted them, and no one would judge me for it."

THAT is the heart of the issue. They enjoy the attention, the feeling of being better than the men because they know they are on the pedestal and call the shots. That's all this really comes down to. It's not even really about the sex, or relationships or lack of. College girls figured out that they way they can obtain the most attention and control is by acting like this.

olddinosaur		2012-08-23 10:14:35 PM

Pretty much economic necessity.

You work for 70% of a man's wages, and take a job a man would like to have, the money he is not being paid will not go to support a family and a wife.

Also, a quickie here and there is all a woman wants these days, she is too wrapped up with herself to get emotional over anyone else.

Flames erupt in 3. . . . . 2. . . . . 1. . . . . .

PonceAlyosha		2012-08-23 10:16:01 PM

This is true. Even my unattractive female friends juggle two or three boys at a time. It seems to me that it may be men who are the naturally monogamous ones.

Jim_Callahan		2012-08-23 10:16:18 PM

What?

I mean, nothing wrong with hookups, been there, but frankly it gets old pretty fast when you start edging past 20 it tends to start getting old. Coincidentally, that's also the point where you stop caring about being empowered and start preferring to not be alone.

Billy Bathsalt		2012-08-23 10:16:42 PM

Cool story: Went to the college clinic to check out a burning sensation. When asked, proudly described my active sex life.

The doc said: "OK, you present a low risk for STD's. Probably just drinking too much coffee."

olddinosaur		2012-08-23 10:16:45 PM

Old Smokie: I wonder if the college guys these gals are farking feel as if they are empowering the women?

No, they are taking advantaqge of an easy quick f, because that's all she's good for.

Linkster		2012-08-23 10:20:29 PM

Just cause she's fugly, don't mean she's not a good f*ck!

Quantum Apostrophe		2012-08-23 10:20:32 PM

Fano: RoyBatty: Too old for High School Teachers to abuse me. Too old for college hookup culture.

Time to die.

...like spunk in the rain?

I watched spunk-beams glitter in the dark near Tannhäuser Gate.

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus		2012-08-23 10:21:10 PM

skilbride: I slept with a ton of guys in college but it had nothing to do with feminism. It has to do with the fact that I like sex.

We need a number please. Short ton? Long ton? Metric ton (tonne)?

odinsposse		2012-08-23 10:23:11 PM

Who could have guessed that people in their late teens and early twenties wouldn't be interested in serious relationships? Absolutely no one. It has shocked us all.

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo		2012-08-23 10:23:43 PM

I foresee great things for this thread. Sober discussion, insightful commentary, and concise prose.

GhostFish		2012-08-23 10:24:04 PM

taurusowner: MorePeasPlease: "It was empowering, to have that kind of control," she recalls. "Guys were texting and calling me all the time, and I was turning them down. I really enjoyed it! I had these options to hook up if I wanted them, and no one would judge me for it."

THAT is the heart of the issue. They enjoy the attention, the feeling of being better than the men because they know they are on the pedestal and call the shots. That's all this really comes down to. It's not even really about the sex, or relationships or lack of. College girls figured out that they way they can obtain the most attention and control is by acting like this.

What issue? Are they doing anything illegal? Is it demonstrably harmful to society? Or are they just enjoying the freedom to act like pigs, just like men?

That's the real win of feminism. Women are free to do what they want and behave how they want within the confines of the law. They are not required to be lesser or greater than men. They are not required to take the moral high road because of the past injustices done to their sex that should have somehow taught them to be the better person.

They are simply free to be people, and engage in all the disgusting and wonderful possibilities that entails.

foxyshadis		2012-08-23 10:24:11 PM

The new show Girls is much better than this article, which seems like it could have been ripped from the pages of Penthouse or Playboy.

/Maybe I just like neurotic people. Mad About You was my favorite show as a young teen, after all.

Apropos of nothing, this is the first hit for "Girls" on GIS today:
4umf.com