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(NJ.com)   Man, who told his neighbors to stay off his natural habitat, now faces court date   (nj.com) divider line 36
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2012-08-23 08:14:43 PM
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2012-08-23 08:16:13 PM
Yeah, im gonna side with the guy whose a "land use environmental reviewer", over his jerkass neighbors. Oh no, snakes! By the river!!!

fark the Scottish for their concept of the modern lawn.
 
2012-08-23 08:16:29 PM
Neighbors seem a might douchey
 
2012-08-23 08:18:37 PM
The man was only trying to restore the Amazon Rain Forest -- in New Jersey.
 
2012-08-23 08:23:58 PM
Riparian buffer. I wonder if he ever has riparian entertainments.

/Ok prove it to me - nothing is obscure on fark?
 
2012-08-23 08:24:52 PM
I'm surprised the area doesn't flood with all of the concentrated douche.
 
2012-08-23 08:25:07 PM
His neighbors sound extremely old and boring. Put a picture of a bird on your patio? GTF Off My Lawn, literally
 
2012-08-23 08:27:40 PM
This dude sounds like he trying to do the right thing by using Mother Nature's way of controlling floods. Landscaping that is "in process" always looks crappy--especially if it is landscaping that ha the appearance of being unkempt during the process. My neighbor has a beautiful English Cottage garden but at some points during the year it looks like waist-high weeds and you can see no pattern to it. When the garden is all green and blooming though it looks like a Thomas Kinkade painting. The asshats next door need to move to a condo. Having one acre of land would be hideous if it was all lawn. Bastards.
 
2012-08-23 08:34:21 PM
Time to firebomb the neighbors.

/hey, it's North Jersey, nothing of value would be lost
 
2012-08-23 08:35:42 PM
Who are these people, and why do they think they know more about the surrounding land than an environmental planner?
 
2012-08-23 08:35:49 PM
Sounds like the neighbors are afraid of losing property value if the flood zone is redefined.

Also, the headline sucks.
 
2012-08-23 08:41:33 PM
It's between them and the town she says. Yeah, right.
 
2012-08-23 08:44:16 PM
FTA: Girvan said that everything went well for a couple years. He and his wife, Sharon, snuffed out invasive species....

It's only since she complained to the zoning officer, she said, that Girvan went online to get the wildlife habitat designation. "It's basically spitefulness," she said, stemming from an earlier dispute over forsythia bushes and poison ivy that grew through the fence separating their two properties.


Yeah, forsythia is one of those non-native invasive species in that area. Link
 
2012-08-23 08:55:05 PM

allthesametome: Riparian buffer. I wonder if he ever has riparian entertainments.

/Ok prove it to me - nothing is obscure on fark?


Mind the cyclist, Richard!
 
2012-08-23 09:06:44 PM
Wow, remind me to never move to a city that has obnoxious HOA laws. then again, if I remember correctly, New Jersey invented HOAs and perfected suburban wastelands.
 
jvl
2012-08-23 09:11:01 PM
Seems to me they need an expert who can determine if this is legitimate riparian.
 
2012-08-23 09:12:04 PM
Oh, awesome, the subject of the story is in the comments and some of the replies to him are hilarious, going straight to the stereotypical "If we let this go, cars on blocks will be next!" fearful HOA-speak.

Mr. Girvan. To an extent a person should be allowed to manage their home as they please. The reality is that people have expectations of their communities when they move in, and the communities have expectations of their residents- reasonable expectations. One of those is keeping lawns and proprty in reasonable condition.

Each neighbor affects the other. My neighbors would probably be very dissatisfied if I parked a boat on my front lawn on cinderblocks; or if I grew an organic vegetable garden on the entire property. They'd be right to report me to the township- which would be right to tell me to fix the problem.
 
2012-08-23 09:13:41 PM

Cyno01: Yeah, im gonna side with the guy whose a "land use environmental reviewer", over his jerkass neighbors. Oh no, snakes! By the river!!!

fark the Scottish for their concept of the modern lawn.


Considering they have a river in the back yard you would think they would expect the I occasional wildlife to show up. Its a farking river! All sorts of things live in it. Once in a while they are going to come ashore in your yard. Doesn't make it your neighbors fault.
 
2012-08-23 09:13:46 PM
faces a possible $100 fine for allowing a portion of his property to return to a floodplain meadow.

If this warranted a print run, it must have been a pretty slow news day in the neighborhood.
 
2012-08-23 09:18:52 PM

clevershark: faces a possible $100 fine for allowing a portion of his property to return to a floodplain meadow.

If this warranted a print run, it must have been a pretty slow news day in the neighborhood.


I think worth nation, nay INTERNATIONAL news.

We should shame these neighbors into jumping off a bridge.
 
2012-08-23 09:19:40 PM

jvl: Seems to me they need an expert who can determine if this is legitimate riparian.


Maybe they can hire a local for $100.
 
2012-08-23 09:21:18 PM
This is pretty cool, in the comments the guy actually links to an EPA article that legally differentiates weeds from natural habitat, and discusses the legal ramifications of various bad weed laws that encompass natural growth - including precedent-setting court victories using free speech (or all things), unconstitutional vagueness, and violation of the Equal Protection clause for irrationality.

Didn't realize the place isn't even a city at all, just a rural township with crazy neighbors.
 
2012-08-23 09:22:15 PM

foxyshadis: Wow, remind me to never move to a city that has obnoxious HOA laws. then again, if I remember correctly, New Jersey invented HOAs and perfected suburban wastelands.


This isn't an HOA, it's the actual government. Dunno whether that makes it better it worse.

And that part of Jersey is right on the dividing line between a 1.2 acre lot means you're rich and it means you're below the minimum residential lot size.
 
2012-08-23 09:34:16 PM
All he needs to do is ask the city to run an environmental impact study of mowing this patch of "protected wetlands".

At least no one is living in a van on this patch.
 
2012-08-23 09:52:17 PM
Can't he just claim his yard is now a vernal pool, and that the city is violating environmental laws by trying to alter it? Or is that a specifically Californian brand of craziness?
 
2012-08-23 10:24:27 PM
um...guess i'm not hip or whatever, but...i bought my house cause it is an awesome place to live and i like it and it has huge potential for making even more super awesome. i stay on top of my yard and landscaping and shiat...do my neighbors? dunno, they aren't too farking loud when i'm sleeping for work and the area is pretty safe.
 
2012-08-23 10:31:09 PM
I'll side with the property owner over the douche of a neighbor.

The city would have done nothing if she had not complained.
 
2012-08-23 10:31:32 PM
but this kinda reminds me of a former brother in law. in new jersey, his neighbors had him cited for violating grass length...laws? standards? whatever...he proved in court that the ground cover he was growing was not a grass...SCIENCE
 
2012-08-23 10:42:14 PM
Did he have any hyacinths or daisy, or even a rose or two?

OK, I'll go away now...
 
2012-08-24 12:01:33 AM
You live next to a river, of course there's going to be wildlife. Get over it and be grateful your neighbors are trying to create habitat.
 
2012-08-24 12:25:47 AM
The guy should get info from The Wildlife Habitat Council , USDA: The Wildlife Habitat Incentive Program , and then make it official through NWF: Certified Wildlife Habitat

Use something like a ton of this stuff: Wildlife habitat wildflower seed mix and then put up a bunch of signs.
 
2012-08-24 02:36:52 AM

Cyno01: Yeah, im gonna side with the guy whose a "land use environmental reviewer", over his jerkass neighbors. Oh no, snakes! By the river!!!

fark the Scottish for their concept of the modern lawn.


Lawn Farming: Americas Most Useless Crop
 
2012-08-24 03:21:32 AM

StoPPeRmobile: Lawn Farming: Americas Most Useless Crop


The only thing it grows is the jealousy of the neighbors.
 
2012-08-24 08:39:05 AM

sammyk: Considering they have a river in the back yard you would think they would expect the I occasional wildlife to show up. Its a farking river! All sorts of things live in it. Once in a while they are going to come ashore in your yard. Doesn't make it your neighbors fault.


Some people don't understand what it means to own property. Had a coworker move from a city to a rural house who complained about animals on HIS land.
 
2012-08-24 12:21:19 PM

Balrog: allthe


Thus, there is no such thing as obscure on fark. I want to cyber marry you and have your cyber children.
 
2012-08-24 12:55:02 PM

Cheron: sammyk: Considering they have a river in the back yard you would think they would expect the I occasional wildlife to show up. Its a farking river! All sorts of things live in it. Once in a while they are going to come ashore in your yard. Doesn't make it your neighbors fault.

Some people don't understand what it means to own property. Had a coworker move from a city to a rural house who complained about animals on HIS land.


So, one person.
 
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