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(CBS Sports)   Nick Swisher wants to join the Nationals next year   (cbssports.com) divider line 14
    More: Unlikely, Nick Swisher, Nationals, Jayson Werth, Curtis Granderson, luxury tax, free agent, right fielders  
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2012-08-23 03:18:40 PM
I get that it was ridiculous to give Werth that deal, but the Nats were having serious problems attracting free agent talent before that. They had to get good players, and they had to pay a lesser star (although he had 2 seasons where he got MVP votes) star money to get him to come. And guess what, he's now a contributing player to the best team in baseball. Point, Nats and Mike Rizzo.


//No way Swisher finds somebody that desperate, but it's going to take a team with the same circumstances for him to come close (and get grossly overpaid)
 
2012-08-23 03:26:44 PM

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: I get that it was ridiculous to give Werth that deal, but the Nats were having serious problems attracting free agent talent before that. They had to get good players, and they had to pay a lesser star (although he had 2 seasons where he got MVP votes) star money to get him to come. And guess what, he's now a contributing player to the best team in baseball. Point, Nats and Mike Rizzo.


//No way Swisher finds somebody that desperate, but it's going to take a team with the same circumstances for him to come close (and get grossly overpaid)


Basically came here to say this. If Swisher thinks he's getting the Werth deal from the Yankees, he's out of his mind. They'll get Brett Gardner back and they can either sign someone for a (relative) discount or bring back the Ibanez/Jones platoon for another year.
 
2012-08-23 06:10:09 PM
To this day, I cannot understand how Kenny Williams believed Nick Swisher for Betemit&Crap was a fair trade...and yet STILL HAS A JOB.
 
2012-08-23 06:13:43 PM
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2012-08-23 06:17:42 PM
Goodbye Swish. George is dead and his son wants to run the Yankees as a business.
 
2012-08-23 06:18:47 PM

FishyFred: Basically came here to say this. If Swisher thinks he's getting the Werth deal from the Yankees, he's out of his mind. They'll get Brett Gardner back and they can either sign someone for a (relative) discount or bring back the Ibanez/Jones platoon for another year.


But the swish hits so many Ribbies! So what if his arm isn't that great!
 
2012-08-23 06:20:55 PM
I want a contract like Jayson Werth also.

It's fun to want things.
 
2012-08-23 06:24:07 PM

DeWayne Mann: To this day, I cannot understand how Kenny Williams believed Nick Swisher for Betemit&Crap was a fair trade...and yet STILL HAS A JOB.


Not only that, but he's made pretty solid moves this year. And by that I mean "got Youk for a utility guy and a meh pitcher." And say what you will about Liriano (and I have), but he got him for what seems to be a paper clip and a box of pens to be named later. You could do worse.
 
2012-08-23 06:25:22 PM
I'm sure he's clean.
 
2012-08-23 06:28:54 PM

FreakinB: DeWayne Mann: To this day, I cannot understand how Kenny Williams believed Nick Swisher for Betemit&Crap was a fair trade...and yet STILL HAS A JOB.

Not only that, but he's made pretty solid moves this year. And by that I mean "got Youk for a utility guy and a meh pitcher." And say what you will about Liriano (and I have), but he got him for what seems to be a paper clip and a box of pens to be named later. You could do worse.


In fairness, that just means that Kenny was able to figure out that Youk was better than Orlando Hudson. I mean, it's good that he knows that, but I'm not entirely impressed.

Liriano...I go back & forth on, and have ever since the trade. He's just such a frustrating guy!

And I'm actually really intrigued by one of the guys in that trade. Check out Pedro Hernandez's minor league numbers, keeping in mind that I love K/BB to an unhealthy degree:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=hernan007ped  

Thing is, the Twins aren't exactly known for great player evaluation (and especially not PITCHER evaluation) so....who knows.
 
2012-08-23 06:59:25 PM
This in no way makes me move off my thought that Swish is the dumbest person on the roster. Love the guy's Idiot mojo, but he just seems to live up to the Terry Bradshaw cat joke.
 
2012-08-23 08:05:05 PM
No way he's going to command that much money. He can invoke all he wants but it's not going to happen.
 
2012-08-24 10:37:22 AM

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: I get that it was ridiculous to give Werth that deal, but the Nats were having serious problems attracting free agent talent before that. They had to get good players, and they had to pay a lesser star (although he had 2 seasons where he got MVP votes) star money to get him to come. And guess what, he's now a contributing player to the best team in baseball. Point, Nats and Mike Rizzo.


That and they signed him right after they (mistakenly) let Adam Dunn walk. Obviously, it's worked out (Dunn hit what, .150 last year?), but it was definitely seen as a reactionary move at the time.
 
2012-08-24 11:13:25 AM

RsquaredW: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: I get that it was ridiculous to give Werth that deal, but the Nats were having serious problems attracting free agent talent before that. They had to get good players, and they had to pay a lesser star (although he had 2 seasons where he got MVP votes) star money to get him to come. And guess what, he's now a contributing player to the best team in baseball. Point, Nats and Mike Rizzo.

That and they signed him right after they (mistakenly) let Adam Dunn walk. Obviously, it's worked out (Dunn hit what, .150 last year?), but it was definitely seen as a reactionary move at the time.


I don't think it was a mistake to let Dunny go; his offense has picked up this year, but Rizzo wanted better D @ first... and LaRoche has been worth his weight in gold over there. He's save tons of runs and outs on plays that Dunn never would have made... That shows up in WAR.
 
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