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(The New Republic)   Romney: "This study by these Harvard economists say my approach to Medicare would work." Harvard economists: "No, it doesn't say that at all"   (tnr.com) divider line 30
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2012-08-23 03:33:53 PM  
6 votes:
Previously, on 'They Young and the Romney':

Romney: Let the auto industry go bankrupt.
Obama: *saves auto industry*
Romney: My dad would have totally fired you guys.
Obama: Romney wanted to let the auto plants go bankrupt.
Romney: I said let them go bankrupt, I didn't say let them...wait, no I did. Good one there Obama.
Obama: Romney closed down steel plants.
Romney: Hey what? Hey I've created jobs.
Obama: True. Romney has created jobs. In India and China.
Romney: Hey did you know Obama's renewable energy policies has moved jobs overseas?
Obama: You mean like how the wind industry in the US has basically doubled in three years on the job?
Romney: I can't hear you Obummer. Hey, I'm gonna go overseas to watch my dressage horse cheat taxes for me and hopefully win a gold medal while insulting the UK. Hey btw did I mention how awesome I am at the Olympics?
UK: Wanker.
UK Media: Wanker.
Romney: Hey now...the crazy right wing Israeli likes me.
Netanyahu: We should blow up Iran....
Romney: Haha, he's kidding. Guys he's kidding. He is kidding, right?
Netanyahu: f*cking waste those a-holes.
Media: Wow so your whole overseas tour is kind of a flop huh.
Romney: You forgot about Poland! I'm popular with Poland's president! Just not with the people.
Obama: Oh hey guys did you also know that when steel plant workers lose their jobs and healthcare it can result in people dying?
Romney: That's taken totally out of context. Let my PR person explain it.
Andrea Saul: Well, if they had health care they probably would have survived and...
RightWingDerpStorm: WTF DID U SAY? WTF DID U SAY!
Romney: Ummm...Lemon. Wet. Good.
Reid: Hey Romney while you're off sipping lemonade, I've got a source says you didn't pay taxes for 10 years.
Romney: *spits out lemonade* Oh yeah? Prove it.
Obama: So you're not denying it. Also hey here's a tax scandal linked to Romney's work when he was in charge of taxes at Marriott.
Romney: God this lemonade is sour. Who made it, some wetback at Golden Corral?
Little old lady: I did. *cries*
Paultards: See? You see what you f*ckos did? You nominated the biggest douchenozzle in existence.
Gingrich: *ahem* second biggest
Obama: *eats popcorn*

[cue title]

Romney: Hey, This study by these Harvard economists say my approach to Medicare would work!
Ryan: Right, Mitt, vouchers will fix Medicare.
Harvard economist: What is this, I don't even.
2012-08-23 01:00:41 PM  
6 votes:

Aarontology: Lurking Fear: No, most other political campaigns are dishonest. Rmoney's is flat out lying.

Campaigns in general lie to help get traction. Romney seems to lie... just because that's all he knows how to do.He's a fundamentally dishonest person.


This is nothing new. This isn't a bug, it's a feature.

Romney has made a career at bullsh*tting folks he plans on soaking. He did it when he was in business. He did it when he was involved with the UMaine system. He did it with the Olympics. He did it in Mass as Governor. He WILL do it if he's given another office. He WILL do it in any other business he goes into. This is what he is. He excels at getting other people to pay for his privilege, and it will continue, until folks stop giving him their money. He gives a good return to some, but for most, he just talks a good game, while getting his buddies the best return on their dollar, and he pockets a fair share.

His Presidency will be no different. That's why I can't vote for him. It's not a vote for the nation or for the future. He is committed to only serving himself and those who back him closest, and everyone else are marks or rubes, and that is not leadership, it's vulture capitalism at its worst...

There are far better folks in business now, who represent better ideals than "Gimmie and you can f*ck off!" It's time maybe we gave them a shot, and left asshats like Romney on the dustpile of history...
2012-08-23 12:32:49 PM  
4 votes:
At this point, if Romney said the sky was blue, I'd have to look up just to be sure.
2012-08-23 02:08:19 PM  
3 votes:

Coco LaFemme: At this point, if Romney said the sky was blue, I'd have to look up just to be sure.


And that's when he'd pick your pocket.
2012-08-23 12:10:31 PM  
3 votes:

Lurking Fear: No, most other political campaigns are dishonest. Rmoney's is flat out lying.


Campaigns in general lie to help get traction. Romney seems to lie... just because that's all he knows how to do.He's a fundamentally dishonest person.
2012-08-23 01:01:16 PM  
2 votes:
FTFA: Both Romney and Ryan now say that traditional Medicare, the government-run insurance program, would be among the options in the marketplace. But they would not guarantee that voucher can pay for it.

This is a point that needs to be hammered home again and again and again.

Certain Farkers (I won't name logins) have been arguing that "traditional Medicare is an option in the Ryan/Romney plan." They argue this, obviously, in an effort to immunize the Ryan/Romney campaign from charges of ending Medicare as we know it. But, these Farkers never own up to the fact that the vouchers included in Ryan/Romney will probably not actually cover the full cost of traditional Medicare. They try to hide the fact that seniors who want traditional Medicare coverage will have to dig significantly into their own pockets for the same services that today's seniors get as a matter of course.

I'm not saying these Farkers are dishonest Republicans shills...but they're dishonest Republican shills.
2012-08-23 12:38:21 PM  
2 votes:
Many people expect politicians to lie occasionally. Sadly. Mr. Romney appears to have missed the 'occasionally' part.
2012-08-23 12:08:14 PM  
2 votes:
cman

Aarontology: I Said: Mitt Romney: We Reject Reality

Are the lies usually this frequent and blatant? I don't remember it being this bad during '08, but then rose-colored glasses and all.

Nope. He's gone well beyond usual politician lying into a dimension that is pure lie.

"Lying", in my humble opinion, is not an appropriate tag when one describes Romney. I think it is more befitting to call him "dishonest". Lying and dishonesty are not always the one in the same


No, most other political campaigns are dishonest. Rmoney's is flat out lying.
2012-08-23 12:07:12 PM  
2 votes:

cman: Aarontology: I Said: Mitt Romney: We Reject Reality

Are the lies usually this frequent and blatant? I don't remember it being this bad during '08, but then rose-colored glasses and all.

Nope. He's gone well beyond usual politician lying into a dimension that is pure lie.

"Lying", in my humble opinion, is not an appropriate tag when one describes Romney. I think it is more befitting to call him "dishonest". Lying and dishonesty are not always the one in the same


That's a good point. Especially given just how often and what he lies about. This is a good example. He's flat out saying the opposite of what the truth is. It's not even "From a certain point of view" true.
2012-08-23 11:56:21 AM  
2 votes:

I Said: Mitt Romney: We Reject Reality

Are the lies usually this frequent and blatant? I don't remember it being this bad during '08, but then rose-colored glasses and all.


Nope. He's gone well beyond usual politician lying into a dimension that is pure lie.
2012-08-23 04:28:16 PM  
1 votes:

MartinD-35: buck1138: AkaDad: Has anyone made a list of the statements Romney hasn't lied about?

He said he will cut taxes and I do believe that. Everything else, not so much.

Corporations are people, my friend.

He lies about everything; shamelessly and looking you straight in the eye while his laughing at you and reminding himself that only Mormons get to heaven.


MartinD-35: Lunaville: Is Harvard now a bastion of liberal thought and activity?

Note, that the Romney plan to screw with medicare is carefully timed to avoid ticking off the boomers. He'll have no problem raking in boomer votes. I can't speak to all boomers, but I know my parents could not care less if I and my siblings starve in our old age.

I'm a boomer, and I can assure you I do not like where this country is headed if Romney wins. It will be a disaster for all but the VERY wealthy. You must remember that Mormons believe that ONLY Mormons can go to heaven (some mystical place of which I known nothing) and therefore only Mormons are acceptable. This is hard core, rigid Mormon belief. I've known several in my life and aside from trying to convert me they were very nice people but it was made clear that Mormons were special, better and the only ones who mattered in the FSM's Universe.


Actually, that's not quite correct. In fact, of all of the Christian sects who claim to be the One True Christian Faith (at least ½ of the 33,800+ Christian variants to date [this number comes from a Christian source, BTW!) that I know of, only the LDS faith believes that it is indeed the One True Faith yet does not believe that only members of said faith go to Heaven.

The LDS belief is that absolutely everyone who has ever been born, no exceptions, is saved from eternal death by the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, by grace alone, with nothing needing to be done ― not even uttering some Prayer of Acceptance of Jesus Christ as Personal Savior. Because He
broke the bands of death, everyone gets physically resurrected.

Almost everyone will also be saved from eternity in the Lake of Fire, which the LDS (and Jesus) refer to as "outer darkness," and this is by the Atonement of Jesus Christ, by grace alone. No baptism or other ordinance is needed for this. All that is required is refraining from committing the Unpardonable Sin. To commit the Unpardonable Sin, you have to actually deny the Holy Ghost after having fully experienced a direct manifestation thereof. Some atheist taking the Blasphemy Challenge does not qualify and is not committing the Unpardonable Sin. Far from Mormons being the only ones in Heaven, the opposite is pretty much the case: in this day and age, one pretty much has to be or have been a Mormon to even be capable of committing the Unpardonable Sin, becoming a Son of Perdition, and thus failing to be saved from eternity in outer darkness aka the Lake of Fire! In all of humanity in all of history, the total number of Sons of Perdition is likely in the three, maybe four, digits. Everyone else is saved to at least the degree of not being cast into the Lake of Fire for all eternity.

The vast majority of mankind will achieve at least the Telestial Kingdom, which is in many ways like our mortal existence but, of course, without mortality.

Everyone of any faith or even no faith at all who has lived according to whatever religion or creed or law or code of conduct or philosophy or whatever that s/he holds to be morally and ethically authoritative in his or her life can achieve the Terrestrial Kingdom without ever becoming Christian, let alone LDS, in mortality nor in the afterlife. This is pretty much what most mainstream Christians think that Heaven is like.

It is true that one must be at least baptized and confirmed in the LDS faith or the equivalent in past dispensations in order to achieve the Celestial Kingdom, which is way better than what most mainstream Christians think that Heaven is like. But this is only the top level of Heaven, not Heaven as a whole.

(South Park gets it wrong in this regard. And besides, the "God" character of South Park is a self-proclaimed Buddhist, not Mormon, despite only allowing Mormons into South Park's Heaven." Also, the fact that "God" looks so absolutely ludicrously inhuman is likewise a flagrant contradiction with the LDS faith [which believes that we are literally God's children and that thus He is of human form], causing a paradox which I'm pretty sure Matt and Trey have done deliberately.)

In short, in LDS belief, nearly everyone will get a post-resurrection eternity at least as good as what they were expecting, without having to join the LDS faith.


Cotton Rinkenbolts: Petey4335: Previously, on 'They Young and the Romney':

Romney: Let the auto industry go bankrupt.
Obama: *saves auto industry*
Romney: My dad would have totally fired you guys.
....

That was beautiful.


Yes, it was. Smarted and Funnied.
2012-08-23 03:33:01 PM  
1 votes:
He can lie all he wants, Fox and the other right wing 'news' isn't going to cover it. Sure they'll play a clip of the lie to get it out there, but they wont be calling Mitt out on it. Mitt's base wont get their news anywhere else.

If Mitt says it and Fox etc. doesn't deny it, then it's true for a lot of people. It doesn't matter if what he says is a lie.
Mitt knows this, and he doesn't mind using it to his advantage.

/now Fox, make sure to project what you, Mitt and the GOP are doing here at all the other news outlets and the democrats.
//haha look who I'm talking to...I'm sure Fox is already working on it.
2012-08-23 02:58:37 PM  
1 votes:
i48.tinypic.com
2012-08-23 02:49:41 PM  
1 votes:
Can you just imagine being in Obamas war room right now? They're probably setting up betting pools on the number of ads they will be able to run showing nothing but Romneys own speeches.
2012-08-23 02:04:52 PM  
1 votes:

cchris_39: Romney: "This study by these Harvard economists say my approach to Medicare would work." Harvard economists: "No, it doesn't say that at all"

It says, "we have no idea" any more than Romney or Obama do.


In other words, the headline is 100% accurate.
2012-08-23 02:01:59 PM  
1 votes:

Coco LaFemme: At this point, if Romney said the sky was blue, I'd have to look up just to be sure.


I'd wonder what he meant by "sky," too.
2012-08-23 01:59:57 PM  
1 votes:
Romney: "This study by these Harvard economists say my approach to Medicare would work." Harvard economists: "No, it doesn't say that at all"

It says, "we have no idea" any more than Romney or Obama do.

The idea of testing the exchanges to gather some actual data (as opposed to assumptions) is actually a pretty good idea.
2012-08-23 01:59:37 PM  
1 votes:

Lurking Fear: cman

Aarontology: I Said: Mitt Romney: We Reject Reality

Are the lies usually this frequent and blatant? I don't remember it being this bad during '08, but then rose-colored glasses and all.

Nope. He's gone well beyond usual politician lying into a dimension that is pure lie.

"Lying", in my humble opinion, is not an appropriate tag when one describes Romney. I think it is more befitting to call him "dishonest". Lying and dishonesty are not always the one in the same

No, most other political campaigns are dishonest. Rmoney's is flat out lying.


Romney has been caught, repeatedly, lying about a number of things. Hence his fear of "negative campaigning", because calling him out when he flat-out lies is "negative" in his eyes.

He's a bullshait artist, plain and simple - a businessman who relies on the shell game and the flim-flam to make a profit at the expense of others. Why folks still think that voting for him is a good idea is beyond me. I can understand wanting to vote "against Obama", but if you're going to do that as a protest, hell, vote for someone other than Romney. Cutting off your own nose to spite your face has never been a solid practice.
2012-08-23 01:58:47 PM  
1 votes:
Can't trust those Harvard elitists unless they're politically expedient!
2012-08-23 12:42:22 PM  
1 votes:
Lying. White. Goon.
2012-08-23 12:35:32 PM  
1 votes:
img89.imageshack.us

"You know nothing of my work!"
2012-08-23 12:31:31 PM  
1 votes:
If Romney had any respect for us, he wouldn't be blatantly lying to us.
2012-08-23 12:20:52 PM  
1 votes:
For the amount of lying he does, you'd think he'd be better at it.

He's barely at Sarah Palin levels of lying. Not good.
2012-08-23 12:17:50 PM  
1 votes:

Karac: cman: "Lying", in my humble opinion, is not an appropriate tag when one describes Romney. I think it is more befitting to call him "dishonest". Lying and dishonesty are not always the one in the same

That's an apt statement. Somebody who is lying isn't telling the truth right now. Someone who is dishonest is no longer given the benefit of the doubt as to his truthfulness and can be assumed to be lying by default.


Can we at least agree on a more neutral word like "asshole"?
2012-08-23 12:15:58 PM  
1 votes:
The Campaign of Lies continues.
2012-08-23 12:14:42 PM  
1 votes:

cman: "Lying", in my humble opinion, is not an appropriate tag when one describes Romney. I think it is more befitting to call him "dishonest". Lying and dishonesty are not always the one in the same


That's an apt statement. Somebody who is lying isn't telling the truth right now. Someone who is dishonest is no longer given the benefit of the doubt as to his truthfulness and can be assumed to be lying by default.
2012-08-23 12:07:06 PM  
1 votes:

I Said: Are the lies usually this frequent and blatant? I don't remember it being this bad during '08, but then rose-colored glasses and all.


Romney's declared his past, his present and his future to be out of bounds.
So, fiction is all he has left.
2012-08-23 11:53:17 AM  
1 votes:
Mitt Romney: We Reject Reality

Are the lies usually this frequent and blatant? I don't remember it being this bad during '08, but then rose-colored glasses and all.
2012-08-23 11:53:13 AM  
1 votes:
Another day, another Romney lie.

Right on schedule.
2012-08-23 11:50:41 AM  
1 votes:
j.wigflip.com
 
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