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(WLOX Biloxi)   You're a surgeon stuck in a traffic jam while your patient waits on the table. Do you : C) borrow a bicycle from a seven year old and pedal through traffic with a police escort   (wlox.com) divider line 95
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2012-08-23 02:02:06 PM

silo123j: wouldn't the empty car cause a traffic jam as well?


Not unless the friend who she borrowed the bike from lives under an overpass.
 
2012-08-23 02:02:10 PM

ginandbacon: brap: God Is My Co-Pirate: It sounds like the uplifting finale of an 80s comedy, but good for him.
 
 
Good for HER you sexist pig.

+1, would favorite again.


HA!
brap is also one of my favorites and now you are too.
 
2012-08-23 02:06:55 PM
I know and work with this woman, and it is not surprising that she would do something like this. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if anyone at that mastology center wouldn't do the same thing. They truly care about their patients.


/I know, CSB
 
2012-08-23 02:08:37 PM

justanotherfarkinfarker: What? Not to shiat on this Doc, but those tiny bikes suck. I can run faster for a longer distance then riding one of those.


I'd be surprised if that's really true, but you could potentially be a competitive distance runner. I'm just some guy who runs a lot, and I doubt I could outrun even a tiny bike like that over a distance of more than a couple miles. They're just too damned efficient, and few people can sustain a pace under 6:00/mi for more than a couple of miles. That's only 10mph, something that's very easy to do on a kids bike. If you could get the bike to a rather sedate 12mph, that would beat the womens' world record pace in the Marathon.

Sure, you might not get it up to 35mph like you could a proper adult-sized bike-- but it doesn't take much to beat running.
 
2012-08-23 02:11:43 PM

cgraves67: God Is My Co-Pirate: It sounds like the uplifting finale of an 80s comedy, but good for him.

It needs a slow-motion montage set to some bad 80's music.


And it ends with a freeze frame of her and the patient jumping for joy after a successful recovery.
 
2012-08-23 02:16:05 PM
 
2012-08-23 02:17:52 PM
bttf.com

"I'll get it back to you, alright?"
 
2012-08-23 02:21:31 PM
I appreciate the doctor's enthusiasm for his art, but I would think just riding in the escort would have been quicker.
 
2012-08-23 02:21:40 PM
I have a leg from the knee down thanks to a surgeon who had been drinking at a party. He was the only one qualified the ER could find and parents signed waivers. Never happen today.
 
2012-08-23 02:21:47 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: So if the police were able to get through traffic to escort her, why couldn't they have just given her a ride the rest of the way?


Ah yes, the cry of the mediocre in the face of sacrifice: "Are you *sure* you had to make all that effort?"

It's a wonder over-achievers don't just give up :/
 
2012-08-23 02:22:09 PM

LoneWolf343: I appreciate the doctor's enthusiasm for his art, but I would think just riding in the escort would have been quicker.


I'm sorry, her art.
 
2012-08-23 02:22:47 PM

New and Improved Fail: ginandbacon: brap: God Is My Co-Pirate: It sounds like the uplifting finale of an 80s comedy, but good for him.
 
 
Good for HER you sexist pig.

+1, would favorite again.

HA!
brap is also one of my favorites and now you are too.


Well shucks! Back atcha :)
 
2012-08-23 02:27:07 PM

Insatiable Jesus: I have a leg from the knee down thanks to a surgeon who had been drinking at a party. He was the only one qualified the ER could find and parents signed waivers. Never happen today.


How much are we talking about? One Bud Light, lightly buzzed, or he looked down at the operating table and saw he had 4 hands and 2 patients?
 
2012-08-23 02:28:26 PM

spentmiles: Yeah, she's a hero now but wait until the family gets the bill....

Single-track vehicle, Qty: 1, Price: $32,592.19
Impact attenuator, Qty: 1, Price: $18,450.32
Emergency services, Qty: 1, Price: $235,092.02
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(page 4)
Surgical Material Sterilization Attendant, Qty: 1, Price: $1934.33

Full payment due upon receipt. All balances remaining after 120 days subject to collections. You're going to wish you died.



I'm feeling that pain now. I just got a $3,000 bill for a two day stay in the hospital. I called up the billing dept to say that my insurance company should be covering the cost. The response:

"Ha ha ha. No honey. That $3000 is your co-pay. The total bill is a bit over $30,000."
 
2012-08-23 02:31:33 PM

moops: I want my bike! I want my bike! I want my bike!

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 300x164]



Data's sister........she never recovered after her bike was stolen!
 
2012-08-23 02:33:26 PM
wafb.images.worldnow.com

What a surgeon might look like on a child's bicycle. For those of you having difficulty picturing this.

Staged photo is staged.
 
2012-08-23 02:35:36 PM
replace Borrow with Molest and we STILL got a perfectly cromulent sentence.
 
2012-08-23 02:39:19 PM
I thought the correct answer was: Snake a tube down her throat and be there in 4-5 hours.


/I'm no slouch myself
 
2012-08-23 02:40:04 PM

mccallcl: The My Little Pony Killer: So if the police were able to get through traffic to escort her, why couldn't they have just given her a ride the rest of the way?

Ah yes, the cry of the mediocre in the face of sacrifice: "Are you *sure* you had to make all that effort?"

It's a wonder over-achievers don't just give up :/

-----

I read the question as a criticism of the the under-achieving author of the article rather than of the doctor, who doubtlessly had a very good reason for not hitching a ride.

//not the one you were originally responding to, but asked myself that and several other questions while reading the article.
 
2012-08-23 02:42:27 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: misterfweem: At least he didn't just up and steal the bike, leaving the seven-year-old on the side of the road shouting "I want my bike! I want my bike!"

Too obscure? Hardly. This is Fark.

Now I'm picturing her hitching a ride with the cops by holding their hands through the windows of their cruiser.

/yes, I know that's not quite how that went down


Yeah, Walsh. Let us give you a ride . . .

And Better off Dead, folks? Really?
 
2012-08-23 02:42:36 PM

mccallcl: The My Little Pony Killer: So if the police were able to get through traffic to escort her, why couldn't they have just given her a ride the rest of the way?

Ah yes, the cry of the mediocre in the face of sacrifice: "Are you *sure* you had to make all that effort?"

It's a wonder over-achievers don't just give up :/


I was thinking that it would have been faster just to jog rather than try to ride a tiny bike. This surgeon doesn't sound very bright...or she wasn't in that much of a hurry.
 
2012-08-23 02:44:33 PM
Dr Deebo is coming!
 
2012-08-23 02:45:27 PM
static.culturemap.com
 
2012-08-23 02:46:32 PM
No 'Hollywood Homicide' references yet?


/Granted it was a mediocre flick, but still, Harrison Ford on that little bike was funny.
 
2012-08-23 02:50:45 PM

pedXing: I know and work with this woman, and it is not surprising that she would do something like this. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if anyone at that mastology center wouldn't do the same thing. They truly care about their patients.


/I know, CSB


Wanna do me a solid and give her a high-five next time you see her? Tell her the internets are proud.
 
2012-08-23 02:52:37 PM

nickerj1: At first I thought: they didn't have any other surgeons to operate on the accident victim? Then it said it was a mastology center. So breast cancer. So non-emergency. Just reschedule that shiat.


Exactly. It's not like she was rushing to take care of a ruptured spleen or something.
 
2012-08-23 02:54:11 PM

chookbillion: nickerj1: At first I thought: they didn't have any other surgeons to operate on the accident victim? Then it said it was a mastology center. So breast cancer. So non-emergency. Just reschedule that shiat.

Exactly. It's not like she was rushing to take care of a ruptured spleen or something.


Forgot to say that there were probably a lot of people that needed to get to work that day and were late. Would the cops have given them a ride?
 
2012-08-23 02:55:52 PM

Angry Buddha: brap: God Is My Co-Pirate: It sounds like the uplifting finale of an 80s comedy, but good for him.
 
 
Good for HER you sexist pig.

Oh, so the "doctor" was a veterinarian.

/DNRTFA


This is getting to be a problem. I knew it would.
 
2012-08-23 03:13:45 PM

jbc: Escorted by police?!? Wouldn't it be quicker to get into the squad car at that point? "No thanks, officer. I'd rather pedal the rest of the way."


That was my thinking also
 
2012-08-23 03:26:18 PM

The_Great_Hambino


/I'm no slouch myself


Don't sell yourself short. You're a tremendous slouch.
 
2012-08-23 03:30:19 PM

pedXing: I know and work with this woman, and it is not surprising that she would do something like this. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if anyone at that mastology center wouldn't do the same thing. They truly care about their patients.


/I know, CSB


Well, they work on breasts. I can't blame them.
 
2012-08-23 06:40:35 PM
At first glance: Wow, that's awesome! Was the doctor a cardiologist on the way to cath a STEMI patient who was unstable?! Was it a trauma surgeon on the way to save someone's arm or leg?! Was a it a neurologist on the way to treat a status epileptic or stroke patient?

Reading the article: Oncologist on the way to a surgery center to perform mastectomies, biopsies, and other outpatient procedures.

My face: You have got to be farking kidding me.

/pr stunt is pr.
 
2012-08-23 07:06:31 PM
Uh, why didn't the police toss the bike in the trunk and give her a ride if they were moving fast enough for an escort?
 
2012-08-23 07:16:43 PM

chookbillion: nickerj1: At first I thought: they didn't have any other surgeons to operate on the accident victim? Then it said it was a mastology center. So breast cancer. So non-emergency. Just reschedule that shiat.

Exactly. It's not like she was rushing to take care of a ruptured spleen or something.


Have y'all ever had a schedule surgery before? It's a pain in the butt to reschedule those things. The patients have to take off work, if they have kids they have to reschedule whoever is going to help them with those kids and generally you have to fast so you're sitting around hungry and anxious. They usually set use of surgical rooms up back to back so you wouldn't just be bumping the surgery back 1 hr you'd be having to reschedule for another day (sometimes weeks away) or bumping multiple surgeries back screwing up several peoples plans. She did a fantastic thing here, it may not have been an emergency but I bet those patients who didn't get juggled are pleased.
 
2012-08-23 07:47:00 PM
umm...why didn't the cops just give her a ride? They gave her an escort, they could have easily let her climb in and drove her there.
 
2012-08-23 08:36:40 PM
Keep it, I've got a Pit Bull now.
 
2012-08-23 08:36:52 PM
Sounds like the cops would rather have a funny story than actually help the doctor. If you can give an escort, you can just give him a ride. Or you can be an ass, which I assume is the default position for any cop.
 
2012-08-23 10:47:20 PM

jbc: Escorted by police?!? Wouldn't it be quicker to get into the squad car at that point? "No thanks, officer. I'd rather pedal the rest of the way."


Even cops have a hard time driving through gridlock.
 
2012-08-23 11:15:35 PM
OhLuverly: Have y'all ever had a schedule surgery before? It's a pain in the butt to reschedule those things. The patients have to take off work, if they have kids they have to reschedule whoever is going to help them with those kids and generally you have to fast so you're sitting around hungry and anxious.

Do you have any idea how many lives are endangered by a police convoy running emergency traffic?

If Ambulances and Fire Trucks don't want the cops to do this, what makes you think it's a good idea to do on a bicycle or an unmarked car with no warning devices what so ever?
 
2012-08-23 11:29:40 PM

BronyMedic:
Do you have any idea how many lives are endangered by a police convoy running emergency traffic?

If Ambulances and Fire Trucks don't want the cops to do this, what makes you think it's a good idea to do on a bicycle or an unmarked car with no warning devices what so ever?


Honestly no I do not have any idea how many lives would be endangered by a police escort of a bicycle moving at about 5-10mph or in the more likely case of a police car (which has lights and sirens) with the doctor inside it maneuvering via back roads. Pure speculation on both parts though, as the article doesn't make any of it very clear past her taking the bike and getting to the interstate on it.
 
2012-08-23 11:35:49 PM
I retract my statement about her being inside the car, just reread the article.
 
2012-08-24 06:49:49 AM
OhLuverly: Honestly no I do not have any idea how many lives would be endangered by a police escort of a bicycle moving at about 5-10mph or in the more likely case of a police car (which has lights and sirens) with the doctor inside it maneuvering via back roads. Pure speculation on both parts though, as the article doesn't make any of it very clear past her taking the bike and getting to the interstate on it.

EMS response vehicles are discouraged from using escorts or traveling in convoys due to the extreme dangers associated with multiple emergency vehicles operating in close proximity to each other. For the purpose of this policy statement and any developed from it emergency vehicles should maintain a spacing of at least 300 - 400 feet between them in ideal driving conditions and more when visibility is limited or road conditions are less than ideal.

http://www.health.ny.gov/nysdoh/ems/policy/00-13.htm


5-1.6 CONVOYS AND ESCORTS

The disadvantages of EV convoys and escorts greatly outweigh any advantages. If two or more Emergency Vehicles are going to a scene they should stay at least 500 feet apart. Cars that pull over may pull back directly into the path of the second vehicle if not enough distance is maintained. Using a "wail" mode in the first vehicle and a "yelp" mode in the second vehicle may also help to prevent such accidents.

- International Association of Fire Chiefs

CEVO III Ambulance and CEVO III Fire, the national standards for emergency vehicle operation all say the same thing. Running convoys like this confuses motorists, and puts the public and emergency responders at risk.

There was no medical need for this to happen, it was literally a PR stunt.
 
2012-08-24 07:59:22 AM

oldfarthenry: [community.titantv.com image 500x330]
Way to go, Sasha!


Sasha is blue!
 
2012-08-24 10:55:47 AM

BronyMedic: lots of good information

There was no medical need for this to happen, it was literally a PR stunt.


It wasn't a convoy, it wasn't a cop car escorting an ambulance, or several cop cars moving at a high rate of speed through heavy flowing traffic. It was a cop car moving at 5 to 10 miles per hour tops (she was on a child's bike) traversing standstill traffic. You know the sort of things they do for funeral processions all the time except in those cases its a bunch of cars moving through moving traffic. I wont deny that it wasn't a nice PR plug, it is but to try to say they were putting lives in danger is just a bit over the top. And my original point was it's not so easy to just reschedule as everyone was trying to make it out to be, it's why surgeons try very hard to get to their patients no matter how minor the surgery is. You may think rescheduling a mastectomy or even a biopsy is no big deal, but to the patient who is about to lose their breast because of cancer or have to delay getting answers on if the cancer has come back it's pretty serious to them. So you're right, no medical need for this to happen. Just a doctor who gives a flip about their patient's emotional and physical well being.
 
2012-08-24 09:04:11 PM
OhLuverly: You know the sort of things they do for funeral processions all the time except in those cases its a bunch of cars moving through moving traffic.

Considering we have one or two of those guys who put police sirens and green lights on their motorcycles killed in my area every year escorting a dead body through busy intersections, ask me how I feel about that practice, too.

OhLuverly: And my original point was it's not so easy to just reschedule as everyone was trying to make it out to be, it's why surgeons try very hard to get to their patients no matter how minor the surgery is. You may think rescheduling a mastectomy or even a biopsy is no big deal, but to the patient who is about to lose their breast because of cancer or have to delay getting answers on if the cancer has come back it's pretty serious to them. So you're right, no medical need for this to happen. Just a doctor who gives a flip about their patient's emotional and physical well being.

We're not going to agree on this. I want you to say one thing with me:

There was no medical need for this to happen. This was a joke/PR Stunt, a very poor joke.

Had he gotten into a cop car, and had them drive him to the surgery center, I wouldn't even be as aggravated with this. Had he waited, and had the surgery delayed even just an hour, it wouldn't have been an issue. Hell, it would have been reasonably understandable that it was that way.
 
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