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(Retronaut)   1970 cover issue of Circus magazine asks the burning question of twenty rock stars: Will They Survive the 70s?   (retronaut.co) divider line 77
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2012-08-23 08:39:52 AM
I don't think Morrison, Joplin, and Hendrix lived long enough for the next issue of the magazine to be released.

Other than those three, Elvis was the only one to not make out of the 70s.

Hell, even Lennon would probably still be alive, if not for the guy who wanted to hear Howard Cosell announce a major news event during Monday Night Football.
 
2012-08-23 08:46:40 AM
37 is approaching 30? I'm okay with this.
 
2012-08-23 09:00:52 AM

FirstNationalBastard: I don't think Morrison, Joplin, and Hendrix lived long enough for the next issue of the magazine to be released.


If you mean "I thought all three died in 1968 or 1969", count me in that category. Semi-surprised to look them all up as dying in 1970 & 71.

/born in 73 so didn't live through it
//I think part of it is all the other stuff that happened in 68 & 69 (RFK, MLK, Moon Landing, Woodstock, etc), that all those deaths in my head get put into those "60s timeframe"
 
2012-08-23 09:05:15 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Other than those three, Elvis was the only one to not make out of the 70s.


Well, 1980. Skin of his teeth. Although he's the only one on the list where it wasn't his own fault.

Where's Keith Richards? Or did they know even back then that he can't be killed with conventional weapons?
 
2012-08-23 09:14:16 AM
The wrong two Beatles died first.
 
2012-08-23 09:39:56 AM

quatchi: The wrong two Beatles died first.


Eh, there's nothing wrong with George Harrison but Lennon was an insufferable douchebag. Paul is cool and Ringo is, well, Ringo. I never heard anyone talk shiat about him. Fark the Monkees though, I'm sick of hearing about them.
 
2012-08-23 09:43:49 AM

quatchi: The wrong two Beatles died first.


i45.tinypic.com

agrees.
 
2012-08-23 09:44:45 AM
Tacoamerica
August 20, 2012 at 9:47 pm · Reply

This art was obviously created on a computer. It is not a scan. The type and color is crisp, except for the bogus "DOORS NEW LP!" banner which was p-shopped in. Look at the green lines between the photos. Fake.


He can tell by the pixels.
 
2012-08-23 10:02:33 AM

dletter: FirstNationalBastard: I don't think Morrison, Joplin, and Hendrix lived long enough for the next issue of the magazine to be released.

If you mean "I thought all three died in 1968 or 1969", count me in that category. Semi-surprised to look them all up as dying in 1970 & 71.

/born in 73 so didn't live through it
//I think part of it is all the other stuff that happened in 68 & 69 (RFK, MLK, Moon Landing, Woodstock, etc), that all those deaths in my head get put into those "60s timeframe"


Grouping our decades that way is sort of arbitrary. I think there are more similarities in pop culture between 1987 and 1993 than there are between 1982 and 1988.
 
2012-08-23 10:07:34 AM

FlashHarry: agrees.


Well played.
 
2012-08-23 10:09:26 AM

jaylectricity: Grouping our decades that way is sort of arbitrary. I think there are more similarities in pop culture between 1987 and 1993 than there are between 1982 and 1988.


I don't disagree, but, because of how we think of numbers in our head, people tend to group by those "numerical" decades, especially if you are referencing times before you were born/cognizant.
 
2012-08-23 11:37:07 AM
This seems like the kind of story we'll find out is a hoax in a few weeks.
 
2012-08-23 11:39:01 AM
Cover fails without Keith Moon.

To the time machine!
 
2012-08-23 11:41:05 AM
This reminds me of how amusing I find the song "Ready for the 80s" by The Village People.
 
2012-08-23 11:41:50 AM

Sybarite: 37 is approaching 30? I'm okay with this.


LOL, to me the better question was who does the math at Circus?

Johnny Cash--37
Grace Slick--30
Elvis Presley--35

On the other hand, it IS interesting how many of those people DID survive.
 
2012-08-23 11:43:17 AM
I figured Brian Wilson would have been up there too.
 
2012-08-23 11:46:26 AM

quatchi: The wrong two Beatles died first.


Everybody knows that Paul died in 1966 and was secretly replaced. So no.
 
2012-08-23 11:46:56 AM
Charlie Watts is a surprisingly normal person. He considers the Stones his 'day job' and prefers playing in his jazz trio.
 
2012-08-23 11:48:30 AM

Crewmannumber6: Charlie Watts is a surprisingly normal person. He considers the Stones his 'day job' and prefers playing in his jazz trio.


Yeah, so why was Charlie Watts on the cover and not Keith Richards.

Did the article writer have inside knowledge of Charlie mainlining Draino while having unprotected sex with male prostitutes who died of mysterious causes after wasting away?
 
2012-08-23 11:49:22 AM
I don't believe the magazine cover is using "survive" the way we're all interpreting it. Surely they mean "will they remain superstars?"
 
2012-08-23 11:51:53 AM
John Lennon: Yes! I did it! I survived the 70's! Woo hoo! *bang* son of a biatch!
 
2012-08-23 11:58:44 AM
dletter: jaylectricity: Grouping our decades that way is sort of arbitrary. I think there are more similarities in pop culture between 1987 and 1993 than there are between 1982 and 1988.

I don't disagree, but, because of how we think of numbers in our head, people tend to group by those "numerical" decades, especially if you are referencing times before you were born/cognizant.


Also since there was no year 0, it went from 1 BC to 1 AD 1980 was technically the last year of the '70s and not the first year of the '80s, and 1990 was the last year of the '80s and not the first year of the '90s etc.

If you need more proof than the technicality of it, one of the absolute most cheesy "80s hair" songs on the planet (Warrant's Cherry Pie) came out in 1990
 
2012-08-23 11:59:52 AM

quatchi: The wrong two Beatles died first.


Lennon? Yeah. Harrison was a plagiarist and a new age hipster doofus. Instead of just owning up to ripping off He's So Fine, he was an asshole about it and denied it the rest of his life.
 
2012-08-23 12:01:14 PM
I'd like to hear what Creem has to say on the subject.
 
2012-08-23 12:01:49 PM
Mentat: John Lennon: Yes! I did it! I survived the 70's! Woo hoo! *bang* son of a biatch!

1980 is the last year of the '70s and not the first year of the '80s if you want to get technical with it (there was no year 0 it went from 1 BC to 1 AD) so since he died in like december of 1980(I think it was) that basically means he died at the very very end of the '70s
 
2012-08-23 12:07:52 PM

Oldiron_79: Mentat: John Lennon: Yes! I did it! I survived the 70's! Woo hoo! *bang* son of a biatch!

1980 is the last year of the '70s and not the first year of the '80s if you want to get technical with it (there was no year 0 it went from 1 BC to 1 AD) so since he died in like december of 1980(I think it was) that basically means he died at the very very end of the '70s


No. when you are talking about it as in 70s 80s 90s if there is no 70, 80 or 90 in it, they are not in those decades when speading it in terms of 70s 80s 90s...The 0's would include 00,01,02,03,04,05,06,07,08,09,10...Now, if you were to say the 198th decade BC, I would say that was 1971-1980 but when someone references the 80s, they are talking about 80-89 because all of those numbers are in the 80's numerically.
 
2012-08-23 12:08:17 PM
I really wanted that Jim Morrison Fat and Bloated Vegas era too.

And the Fat and Bloated Live in Hawaii TV special.

/Dewey Cox
//More Cox
 
2012-08-23 12:10:33 PM
Anyone with Ginger Baker in their dead pool (like me) has got to be really pissed by now
 
2012-08-23 12:11:47 PM
Dave Crosby? Kind of cracked me up. He and Steve Stills were good together.

\uh, what's short for Graham?
\\Creem was a better mag
 
2012-08-23 12:16:52 PM

Rickenbacker: \uh, what's short for Graham?


Raymond Luxury Yacht, but it's pronounced "Bo"
 
2012-08-23 12:18:30 PM

Rickenbacker: Dave Crosby? Kind of cracked me up. He and Steve Stills were good together.
\uh, what's short for Graham?
\\Creem was a better mag


Boy Howdy, you are right.

Of course, all of them had people who can't write, interviewing people who can't talk, for people who can't read. Or so I'm told.
 
2012-08-23 12:22:39 PM
27 comments. weird.
 
2012-08-23 12:27:35 PM
I have a copy of the very first Circus, with Hendrix on the cover. The whole thing is a good read. In the random notes part, they mention a new English band called The Led Zeppelin that might be good.
 
2012-08-23 12:33:09 PM

Mugato: FirstNationalBastard: Other than those three, Elvis was the only one to not make out of the 70s.

Well, 1980. Skin of his teeth. Although he's the only one on the list where it wasn't his own fault.


You think Lennon's murder was his own fault?
 
2012-08-23 01:00:09 PM
That cover shows how much cooler music used to be more than anything else.

Just think of the non-talent that would be that cover now.
 
2012-08-23 01:04:44 PM
Woohoo, there's Alvin Lee!

/He's goin' home to **** his baby
 
2012-08-23 01:10:06 PM
Nice to see Alvin Lee there, and nice to have him still around. Totally underrated guitarist and one of my favorites.

/had a Circus from the 80's with Vince Neil on the cover before he killed that guy, spooky.
 
2012-08-23 01:16:08 PM

midigod: Mugato: FirstNationalBastard: Other than those three, Elvis was the only one to not make out of the 70s.

Well, 1980. Skin of his teeth. Although he's the only one on the list where it wasn't his own fault.

You think Lennon's murder was his own fault?


Yeah, if Lennon did not question the existence of God in Imagine then God would not have become vengeful and then order one of his minions to bump Lennon off.
 
2012-08-23 01:18:30 PM
Wow. The amount of talent on that cover. Can you imagine how weak a modern version of that would be if they had to use todays "stars"?
 
2012-08-23 01:19:10 PM
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2012-08-23 01:25:08 PM

barneyfifesbullet: That cover shows how much cooler music used to be more than anything else.

Just think of the non-talent that would be that cover now.


I'd crawl naked 500 miles through broken glass and I'd crawl 500 more for a chance to smell farts of your g-g-g-generation
 
2012-08-23 01:34:43 PM
Charlie Watts is a surprisingly normal person. He considers the Stones his 'day job' and prefers playing in his jazz trio

Neil Peart tells an amusing story of meeting Charlie as Rush were about to go onstage at the SARS benefit show. He said, "I'll be WATCHING you!"

No pressure.
 
2012-08-23 01:35:49 PM
Jimi Hendrix made it to 28? Could have fooled me.
 
2012-08-23 01:43:49 PM

czetie: quatchi: The wrong two Beatles died first.

Everybody knows that Paul died in 1966 and was secretly replaced. So no.


You need no more proof than Band On the Run
 
2012-08-23 01:47:30 PM

Onkel Buck: Nice to see Alvin Lee there, and nice to have him still around. Totally underrated guitarist and one of my favorites.


Best guitarist at Woodstock. As a preteen budding guitarist I borrowed the VHS to "study" Hendrix, but wore out the tape rewinding the Ten Years After set.
 
2012-08-23 01:47:49 PM

FirstNationalBastard: I don't think Morrison, Joplin, and Hendrix lived long enough for the next issue of the magazine to be released.

Other than those three, Elvis was the only one to not make out of the 70s.

Hell, even Lennon would probably still be alive, if not for the guy who wanted to hear Howard Cosell announce a major news event during Monday Night Football.


Elvis didn't die, he just went home.
 
2012-08-23 01:57:02 PM
darch: Neil Peart tells an amusing story of meeting Charlie as Rush were about to go onstage at the SARS benefit show. He said, "I'll be WATCHING you!"

No pressure.


Peart should have said "Wait, aren't you the guy whose playing is so basic that you couldn't play the drum part on You Can't Always Get What You Want and Jimmy Miller had to do it?".

Waaaaay overrated, that Charlie Watts, there's parts on Stones albums where he can't even play simple fills and stay in time. See: Sway on Sticky Fingers.
 
2012-08-23 01:58:51 PM

coldones: midigod: Mugato: FirstNationalBastard: Other than those three, Elvis was the only one to not make out of the 70s.

Well, 1980. Skin of his teeth. Although he's the only one on the list where it wasn't his own fault.

You think Lennon's murder was his own fault?

Yeah, if Lennon did not question the existence of God in Imagine then God would not have become vengeful and then order one of his minions to bump Lennon off.


Wow. I never even thought of that!
 
2012-08-23 02:04:40 PM
Yo, Jimmy Page and Johnny Winter are still standing.
 
2012-08-23 02:39:37 PM
Peart should have said "Wait, aren't you the guy whose playing is so basic that you couldn't play the drum part on You Can't Always Get What You Want and Jimmy Miller had to do it?".

Waaaaay overrated, that Charlie Watts, there's parts on Stones albums where he can't even play simple fills and stay in time. See: Sway on Sticky Fingers


Perhaps. But that doesn't negate the fact that Watts is a member of one of the biggest rock bands to ever exist. Note that I didn't say "best". Watts was, is and always will be a passable jazz drummer sitting in with a passable white r&b band.

It's ways driven me nuts as a drummer how when Watts' left hand comes down to the snare, he stops playing the rhythm on the hats with his right hand. I'm guessing that he can't pat his head and rub his stomach at the same time...
 
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