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(Ars Technica)   In an effort to show it can be trusted with confidential data, US Customs and Border Patrol shares results from license plate scanners with insurance companies. Don't even ask who gets copies of those airport scan photos   (arstechnica.com) divider line 39
    More: Scary, U.S. Customs, National Insurance Crime Bureau, data transfer, data sharing, Corporation for Public Broadcasting, Public consultation, umbrella organization, Electronic Privacy Information Center  
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2012-08-23 10:03:03 AM  
Who do you think did lobbying that got the license plate system put into action? Quid pro quo, Clarice.
 
2012-08-23 11:04:43 AM  
When are the insurance companies going to share all their data with the public? While I'm busy not getting into accidents and not getting tickets, I'm handing them money they'll never need to pay back to me. Who's getting my money? Who is causing accidents?
 
2012-08-23 11:06:57 AM  

Nana's Vibrator: When are the insurance companies going to share all their data with the public? While I'm busy not getting into accidents and not getting tickets, I'm handing them money they'll never need to pay back to me. Who's getting my money? Who is causing accidents?


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2012-08-23 11:08:08 AM  

ModernLuddite: Nana's Vibrator: When are the insurance companies going to share all their data with the public? While I'm busy not getting into accidents and not getting tickets, I'm handing them money they'll never need to pay back to me. Who's getting my money? Who is causing accidents?

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My insurance just went up 100 dollars because of a "rate adjustment" for my state. wtf?
 
2012-08-23 11:09:06 AM  
Private security and government are the same.
 
2012-08-23 11:10:20 AM  
Yeah, confirmation of the suspicions about the insurance companies getting a hold of this data took what, three months? Gotta love the free market, huh righties?
 
2012-08-23 11:11:57 AM  
"LPR data helps insurers and law enforcement verify that a vehicle that has been reported stolen has been taken into Mexico"


Nice, but maybe what we could also get for all that money and lack of privacy is a way to stop the vehicle before it goes to Mexico, assuming it was reported stolen more than a few hours ago.
 
2012-08-23 11:13:20 AM  
In other news, are we putting Gotham typeface on all government buildings now?

/it's better than Helvetica
// for that matter, Clearview > Highway Gothic
 
2012-08-23 11:13:57 AM  
Once again we find that the very self-assured mustachioed men with badges and guns are little but bag boys for large corporations.
 
2012-08-23 11:16:31 AM  
Recovering stolen vehicles is a valid aim, but it would be better handled by the actual border patrol. Why not pass data in the opposite direction instead? The insurance companies give plate numbers from stolen cars to the border patrol, who can then immediately seize the cars if someone attempts to take them across the border.
 
2012-08-23 11:18:14 AM  
And the govthugs™ get their panties in a twist if a camera is present at any location they happen to be.
 
2012-08-23 11:20:18 AM  
... a government of the corporation, by the corporation, and for the corporation...
 
2012-08-23 11:25:41 AM  

ModernLuddite: Nana's Vibrator: When are the insurance companies going to share all their data with the public? While I'm busy not getting into accidents and not getting tickets, I'm handing them money they'll never need to pay back to me. Who's getting my money? Who is causing accidents?

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Damn gorillas stealing princesses and driving around when they should be in jail or deported!
 
2012-08-23 11:30:44 AM  

indylaw: In other news, are we putting Gotham typeface on all government buildings now?

/it's better than Helvetica
// for that matter, Clearview > Highway Gothic


I like serifs, but let's get real - Series E Highway Gothic pwns Clearview. It was a problem that didn't need solving, except to produce a make-work program.
 
2012-08-23 11:33:38 AM  
Insurance companies only will use such information to settle stolen vehicle claims more quickly. People complain about "delays" in receiving compensation for a claim or how they are paying money and "receiving nothing in return". It takes money and time to investigate claims. Insurance companies cannot simply believe everything at face value as it is well known that Joe Q Public will happily inflate damages or claim a back injury in order to get a few extra bucks.

In the end, it will keep insurance costs down.
 
2012-08-23 11:40:13 AM  

K3rmy: Insurance companies only will use such information to settle stolen vehicle claims more quickly. People complain about "delays" in receiving compensation for a claim or how they are paying money and "receiving nothing in return". It takes money and time to investigate claims. Insurance companies cannot simply believe everything at face value as it is well known that Joe Q Public will happily inflate damages or claim a back injury in order to get a few extra bucks.

In the end, it will keep insurance costs down.


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Wat.
 
2012-08-23 11:43:06 AM  
A few years back a study was done on Mexican cop cars and it found that virtually all the cars driven privately by the cops from TJ to Cabo were stolen from Americans and all they had to do was pull the VIN number off the dashboard to trace the vehicle history. The result was so unsurprising it got zero publicity.
 
2012-08-23 11:43:06 AM  
cdn.abovethelaw.com
 
2012-08-23 11:45:52 AM  

emersonbiggins: indylaw: In other news, are we putting Gotham typeface on all government buildings now?

/it's better than Helvetica
// for that matter, Clearview > Highway Gothic

I like serifs, but let's get real - Series E Highway Gothic pwns Clearview. It was a problem that didn't need solving, except to produce a make-work program.


I'm sorry, no. Not only can you read Clearview from a greater distance, it seems friendlier and less institutional.
 
2012-08-23 11:52:54 AM  
 
2012-08-23 11:55:49 AM  

indylaw: emersonbiggins: indylaw: In other news, are we putting Gotham typeface on all government buildings now?

/it's better than Helvetica
// for that matter, Clearview > Highway Gothic

I like serifs, but let's get real - Series E Highway Gothic pwns Clearview. It was a problem that didn't need solving, except to produce a make-work program.

I'm sorry, no. Not only can you read Clearview from a greater distance, it seems friendlier and less institutional.


The execution of installing Clearview has been a nightmare, esp. here in Texas - the overall kerning is a mess, margin width and proportion/spacing have all been ignored on at least half of the signs I've encountered. We've lost the uniformity and quality in the process of converting, which I'd argue negates any legibility advantages that Clearview might have.
 
2012-08-23 12:08:57 PM  
And step by step, inch by inch,,,
 
2012-08-23 12:22:13 PM  
Thank God they aren't in charge of all our medical data.
 
2012-08-23 12:28:07 PM  
The insurance companies are looking for criminals? Why don't they all go after each other and save us the trouble?
 
2012-08-23 12:40:29 PM  
And you thought google was bad...
 
2012-08-23 12:58:06 PM  
At least license plates can't easily be removed and replaced with phony or stolen plates. Otherwise theives would render this whole program useless.
 
2012-08-23 01:05:37 PM  

ImpendingCynic: "LPR data helps insurers and law enforcement verify that a vehicle that has been reported stolen has been taken into Mexico"


Nice, but maybe what we could also get for all that money and lack of privacy is a way to stop the vehicle before it goes to Mexico, assuming it was reported stolen more than a few hours ago.


You mean like taking the existing LPRs and running them against a stolen car database? Yeah, I don't get that either.
 
2012-08-23 01:31:15 PM  
LPRs are not only at the border, but at interior checkpoints, so your insurance company you were driving between Las Cruces and Truth or Consequences, NM on (date, time, direction)

/Papers, citizen
 
2012-08-23 02:38:05 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: When are the insurance companies going to share all their data with the public? While I'm busy not getting into accidents and not getting tickets, I'm handing them money they'll never need to pay back to me. Who's getting my money? Who is causing accidents?


Morons are causing the accidents. You are 100% subsidizing morons. I also have never had an insurance claim, never even come close. I did the math a few months ago and I've paid out something like $30,000 USD to car insurance so far in my life, and I'm just shy of 30 years old. Last week an idiotic neighbor lady hit my parked car while she was trying to parallel park. Her neighbor approached me and was like "Yeah bro, thats the 4th car she hit since she moved in... AND she backed into my garage door".

When I look at my friends, only one has ever had an at-fault accident... but he's totalled five farking cars, and he's only like 25 years old or some shiat now.

So I'm conviced that we're all just paying for a few extreme idiots because the government makes us do it, basically.

/The damage on my car suggests she must have been driving forward into the farking parallel spot... wtf, really biatch? Pulling forward into it? How the.. i dont even... what?!
 
2012-08-23 03:01:13 PM  

Land Ark: At least license plates can't easily be removed and replaced with phony or stolen plates. Otherwise theives would render this whole program useless.


So, will not actually affect any evildoers?

Somebody has to convince the nannys that farking up citizens' lives w/ crap that will not hit the evildoers anyway is not a ,,,
what?

Oh, it is the citizens that are the target?
My bad. Nevermind.
Move along.
 
2012-08-23 03:21:20 PM  

indylaw: emersonbiggins: indylaw: In other news, are we putting Gotham typeface on all government buildings now?

/it's better than Helvetica
// for that matter, Clearview > Highway Gothic

I like serifs, but let's get real - Series E Highway Gothic pwns Clearview. It was a problem that didn't need solving, except to produce a make-work program.

I'm sorry, no. Not only can you read Clearview from a greater distance, it seems friendlier and less institutional.


It also seems a little more Fisher-Price.
 
2012-08-23 03:37:44 PM  
Who here didn't already know the Gov't works for the Insurance companies?

Anyone?
 
2012-08-23 03:46:37 PM  

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: Yeah, confirmation of the suspicions about the insurance companies getting a hold of this data took what, three months? Gotta love the free market, huh righties?


Good point. We need to nationalize the border patrol to keep things like this from happening.
 
2012-08-23 03:51:26 PM  
What part about the publicly visible plates was confidential?

While i cant say i like this sort of thing, open views are not protected against warrantless searching.
 
2012-08-23 04:38:40 PM  

umad: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: Yeah, confirmation of the suspicions about the insurance companies getting a hold of this data took what, three months? Gotta love the free market, huh righties?

Good point. We need to nationalize the border patrol to keep things like this from happening.


I was thinking we should privatize the border patrol by outsourcing the work to the insurance companies. That would be an Amicable way to stem the Flo of illegals across the border Nationwide (even though Farmers would have to go back to picking their own crops).
 
2012-08-23 04:56:16 PM  
Customs and Border Patrol

similar to
the Federal Bureau of Inquiry
the Central Integrity Agency
the Drug Ensnarement Agency

/Protection, subby. It says it right in the article.
 
2012-08-23 05:04:10 PM  

Smackledorfer: What part about the publicly visible plates was confidential?

While i cant say i like this sort of thing, open views are not protected against warrantless searching.


Good citizen. Now STFU and GBTW!
 
2012-08-23 10:48:02 PM  

Smackledorfer: What part about the publicly visible plates was confidential?


Insurance companies want the data, let them get it themselves. Why should I pay the governmental spy on me?

Most importantly, the government is prohibited from spying on us which includes generic, wide-ranging collection of information without specific authorization.
 
2012-08-24 12:12:15 AM  

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: I was thinking we should privatize the border patrol by outsourcing the work to the insurance companies. That would be an Amicable way to stem the Flo of illegals across the border Nationwide (even though Farmers would have to go back to picking their own crops).


Allstate and U.S. territory residents would see a benefit from this.
 
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