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(Boston Herald)   Red Sox re-emphasize their status as a super-classy team by scraping up a whopping four players to attend Johnny Pesky's funeral. Josh Beckett was having a party that night, you see   (bostonherald.com) divider line 95
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2012-08-23 08:51:32 AM
I expected more from Pedroia. Beyond that, not so much.
 
2012-08-23 09:56:36 AM
This is pretty farking lame. Boo Sox.

/life-long Red Sox fan
 
2012-08-23 09:56:54 AM

Demetrius: I expected more from Pedroia. Beyond that, not so much.


Pretty much this. I was shocked when I saw his name omitted.


fark this team. They've somehow managed to assemble a group of unlikeable douche bags who can't even play well together.

/I said it in another thread a couple of days ago but Beckett can EABOD
//Go Pats
 
2012-08-23 10:02:08 AM
God damnit, Boston.
 
2012-08-23 10:04:42 AM
Just so we're clear, this ENTIRE STORY is "A Boston Herald reporter went to the funeral, looked around, and wrote down who they saw" and then "Someone Who Knows" (capitalized like that) saying the front office wasn't happy.

That's it.

Ladies & Gentlemen, the Boston Media!
 
2012-08-23 10:06:09 AM
Did they forget when the funeral was?!?! Take the wrong bus?!?!
 
2012-08-23 10:07:30 AM

Demetrius: I expected more from Pedroia. Beyond that, not so much.


Stop expecting from Pedroia. He's still waiting for Francona to come back and has been throwing a nonstop pity party since he was fired. Pedroia needs to go, too.
 
2012-08-23 10:08:17 AM
Maybe Pesky was an a$$hole?
 
2012-08-23 10:12:27 AM
Hmmm I can go to a funeral or I can go to a party. Hmmmmmm...yeah, unless I'm good friends with the dead guy, I'm probably going to the party.

If the team wants it to be mandatory to go, make it mandatory. Don't make things optional then b*tch about it publicly when people don't want to come.
 
2012-08-23 10:15:36 AM

DeWayne Mann: Just so we're clear, this ENTIRE STORY is "A Boston Herald reporter went to the funeral, looked around, and wrote down who they saw" and then "Someone Who Knows" (capitalized like that) saying the front office wasn't happy.


Are you claiming that this isn't enough evidence? Geez, some people have really unreachably high standards.
 
2012-08-23 10:17:00 AM

Joe_diGriz: DeWayne Mann: Just so we're clear, this ENTIRE STORY is "A Boston Herald reporter went to the funeral, looked around, and wrote down who they saw" and then "Someone Who Knows" (capitalized like that) saying the front office wasn't happy.

Are you claiming that this isn't enough evidence? Geez, some people have really unreachably high standards.


I'm just saying I was hoping for a quote from "An anonymous NL executive with knowledge of the situation."
 
2012-08-23 10:17:39 AM
Die-hard Sox fan here...

This ain't the same team I've been a fan of for so many years. None of the current players, except perhaps Big Papi seem to give a damn about the team anymore. If ex-players like Nomar and Jim Rice can take the time to show up, how is it such a burden for the current team to hop on a chartered bus across town and pay their respects?

That said... DeWayne Mann has it pretty much spot on. The Boston Media is doing their usual stellar job. I'm surprised that CHB hasn't gone on TV so he can show everyone his "I'm so outraged, I can almost turn purple" schtick again.

-Grim
 
Slu
2012-08-23 10:17:49 AM
That team sure is classy. As a yankees fan, I am required to not like the Sox, but do they have to make it so easy? If I am Ortiz, I get off this sinking ship at the end of the year.
 
2012-08-23 10:18:35 AM
Josh Beckett had a charity event that night, and apparently, everyone showed up for that. I think money could have been raised anyway had half the team gone to the event, and the other half gone to Pesky's funeral. At least as a show of support to the organization. If Yogi Berra died, and the entire Yankees organization wasn't at the funeral, I'd be pretty pissed off. Pesky was an institution, like Ted Williams.

Normally there are players on the Red Sox I can grudgingly respect, like Tim Wakefield, while completely loathing the team they play for. No such people exist this year. Even excusing this, they're all world-class assholes. They're starting to remind me of some of the mid-00s Yankees teams, where it's a team of 25 egos, all taking separate cabs home after the game.
 
2012-08-23 10:19:15 AM
They were on their way to the funeral. They were going to make it, too. It wasn't even a concern, really. But then suddenly, things started to go wrong. Some guys were drinking beer and eating chicken in the back seat of the car, and when it was their turn to drive, they just weren't doing a good job of it. Meanwhile, a car filled with Tampa Bay Rays was moving trough traffic. Soon, the two cars were right next to each other. Then the Red Sox car got stuck behind a car driven by the Baltimore Orioles while the Rays car got to draft off of a car driven by the New York Yankees. This allowed the Tampa Bay car to squeeze into the parking lot ahead of the Boston car and steal the final parking space.
 
2012-08-23 10:20:27 AM

Grimthorn: None of the current players, except perhaps Big Papi seem to give a damn about the team anymore.


See, it's funny you say this, because to me, Ortiz has done nothing but whine about his contract.

Honestly, if it's passion you're looking for, well...they probably shipped the last of that to the White Sox.
 
2012-08-23 10:29:41 AM

Rex_Banner: They were on their way to the funeral. They were going to make it, too. It wasn't even a concern, really. But then suddenly, things started to go wrong. Some guys were drinking beer and eating chicken in the back seat of the car, and when it was their turn to drive, they just weren't doing a good job of it. Meanwhile, a car filled with Tampa Bay Rays was moving trough traffic. Soon, the two cars were right next to each other. Then the Red Sox car got stuck behind a car driven by the Baltimore Orioles while the Rays car got to draft off of a car driven by the New York Yankees. This allowed the Tampa Bay car to squeeze into the parking lot ahead of the Boston car and steal the final parking space.


LOL. Funny, too, because I posted this on FB yesterday:

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2012-08-23 10:31:10 AM
I don't see what the big deal is, but then again it's a known fact that Josh Beckett is a high-caliber moron, so I'm not surprised at the backlash.

David Ortiz was there, and that's all that really matters, right? I mean...isn't he the only one on the team that anybody really likes anymore? Correct me if I'm wrong...
 
2012-08-23 10:32:32 AM

The Incredible Sexual Egg: Demetrius: I expected more from Pedroia. Beyond that, not so much.

Pretty much this. I was shocked when I saw his name omitted.


fark this team. They've somehow managed to assemble a group of unlikeable douche bags who can't even play well together.


Now you know how Mets fans felt in the early/mid 90s.

/I said it in another thread a couple of days ago but Beckett can EABOD

Beckett's a fatter version of Bobby Witt; better stuff but just as stubborn.
 
2012-08-23 10:32:32 AM
John Henry took his eye off the ball while he went about creating his sports empire; Now Liverpool sucks, the Sox sucks and NESN lost Heidi Watney to the Lakers. He needs to fix management in Boston, deal with the poisonous media atmosphere and get a few key players onboard the program as leaders. Boston needs a good captain again, Varitek was the glue holding that team together imo.

As to only getting 4 players to the funeral, well, not to be harsh but there are hundreds of former sox players and employees, probably one dying every month now, your players aren't going to each and every funeral, so four players is a good showing. A delegation of players to a family event, as opposed to a couple thousand current, former and related Sox employees all showing up to a funeral of a man they never actually worked with.

/non-issue imo
 
2012-08-23 10:39:41 AM
In no other world would employees be EXPECTED to attend the funeral of a former employee on their day off.
 
2012-08-23 10:46:08 AM
It's not even fun ridiculing this team at this point. It is as gratifying as beating up a kid in a wheelchair.

I...I never thought I'd say this...but I feel bad for Sawx fans, and I miss the good Boston teams. Where are you, Mike Lowell?

It's just not as fun this way.

/puts hands in pocket, idly kicks dirt...wanders off.
 
2012-08-23 10:46:33 AM
As a Sox fan I have to ask - who is saying this team is classy? Besides the pink-hats.
 
2012-08-23 10:52:41 AM

DeWayne Mann: Joe_diGriz: DeWayne Mann: Just so we're clear, this ENTIRE STORY is "A Boston Herald reporter went to the funeral, looked around, and wrote down who they saw" and then "Someone Who Knows" (capitalized like that) saying the front office wasn't happy.

Are you claiming that this isn't enough evidence? Geez, some people have really unreachably high standards.

I'm just saying I was hoping for a quote from "An anonymous NL executive with knowledge of the situation."


That "someone who knows" is a staple in the gossip section of the Herald - this is in the gossip section, not the sports section. Not much difference - two fat ladies following celebrity rumors instead of a couple of fat guys following sports rumors. You shouldn't even let your dog use the Herald as training paper. Awful, awful tabloid rag it is.
 
2012-08-23 10:53:11 AM

IAmRight: Hmmm I can go to a funeral or I can go to a party. Hmmmmmm...yeah, unless I'm good friends with the dead guy, I'm probably going to the party.

If the team wants it to be mandatory to go, make it mandatory. Don't make things optional then b*tch about it publicly when people don't want to come.


As usual you're wrong and completely miss the point, he was a player everyone knew and interacted with along with a huge connection to your team. The party was at night so there was no conflict and the team didn't make it public, these were "a source who knows"

But then you never really have gotten bonds that happen with people who play together, its how we know you have never played a day in your life.
 
2012-08-23 10:54:14 AM

deadsanta: As to only getting 4 players to the funeral, well, not to be harsh but there are hundreds of former sox players and employees, probably one dying every month now, your players aren't going to each and every funeral, so four players is a good showing.


It wasn't just some random old red sox player. It was Johny Pesky. The named a friggin foul pole after the man. When Yogi Berra finally kicks it, I bet you more than 4 current yankees make it to the funeral.
 
2012-08-23 10:55:33 AM
If the team was playing well this is a non story. This season everything is fuel on the tire fire.
 
2012-08-23 10:56:37 AM

Rwa2play: Now you know how Mets fans felt in the early/mid 90s.


Mmm ... Vince Coleman, the downward swings of Strawberry and Gooden, David Cone.

And then poor Mackey Sasser who had a mental block and couldn't throw back to the mound without quadruple-clutching the ball. I think he allowed more than a few SBs AFTER the pitch was caught because of that.

Don't forget, that's where the epic douchebag Jeff Kent got his start.
 
2012-08-23 10:57:34 AM

IAmRight: In no other world would employees be EXPECTED to attend the funeral of a former employee on their day off.


You just have a complete idiots thought process and have never understood history and respect for the old players. Doesn't surprise me in the slightest since you have never really gotten that point.
 
2012-08-23 10:58:36 AM

deadsanta: John Henry took his eye off the ball while he went about creating his sports empire; Now Liverpool sucks, the Sox sucks and NESN lost Heidi Watney to the Lakers. He needs to fix management in Boston, deal with the poisonous media atmosphere and get a few key players onboard the program as leaders. Boston needs a good captain again, Varitek was the glue holding that team together imo.

As to only getting 4 players to the funeral, well, not to be harsh but there are hundreds of former sox players and employees, probably one dying every month now, your players aren't going to each and every funeral, so four players is a good showing. A delegation of players to a family event, as opposed to a couple thousand current, former and related Sox employees all showing up to a funeral of a man they never actually worked with.

/non-issue imo


Sending a card to the widow of a guy who started a few games, that I can understand. This is the guy after whom the pole in Fenway's RF is named. When he was traded to Detroit, he taught everything he knew to a bonus baby named Kaline, who went on to snag 10 Gold Gloves. Pesky spent part or all of seven decades in the Red Sox organization; he was the definition of "team player."

He deserved better than this from his baseball family.
 
2012-08-23 11:01:51 AM

zarberg: Rwa2play: Now you know how Mets fans felt in the early/mid 90s.

Mmm ... Vince Coleman, the downward swings of Strawberry and Gooden, David Cone.

And then poor Mackey Sasser who had a mental block and couldn't throw back to the mound without quadruple-clutching the ball. I think he allowed more than a few SBs AFTER the pitch was caught because of that.

Don't forget, that's where the epic douchebag Jeff Kent got his start.


Sasser never had the issue when throwing to second and his problem only happened after a collision with Jim presley while on the braves. Kind of sad
 
2012-08-23 11:03:14 AM
Those black arm bands on their uniforms are for the guy. You'd think more than 4 players would show up. It's not some random dude who played for the team in 1976.
 
2012-08-23 11:09:11 AM
As a Sox fan I say this team needs to be completely gutted. Somehow over the past 2 years this team has lost it's way. This year has been a complete joke. At first I wanted to blame it all on Bobby V, but I think the problem is above him. From what I hear on sports radio he wasn't allowed to bring in his own coaching staff and got stuck with what upper management handed him. Players have been going over his head and sniping him in the press. Upper management either needs to get 100% behind him and put their foot down with the players or let Bobby go and bring in someone they are 100% behind. But what is going on right now isn't fair to him or the fans.
 
2012-08-23 11:20:47 AM

Gunny Highway: If the team was playing well this is a non story.

they would have gone to the funeral for the publicity alone. Otherwise you know damn well it would be a story. Especially since they all went to Becketts bullshiat that night.
 
2012-08-23 11:22:51 AM

Callous: As a Sox fan I say this team needs to be completely gutted. Somehow over the past 2 years this team has lost it's way. This year has been a complete joke. At first I wanted to blame it all on Bobby V, but I think the problem is above him. From what I hear on sports radio he wasn't allowed to bring in his own coaching staff and got stuck with what upper management handed him. Players have been going over his head and sniping him in the press. Upper management either needs to get 100% behind him and put their foot down with the players or let Bobby go and bring in someone they are 100% behind. But what is going on right now isn't fair to him or the fans.


Great organizations more in lock step. The Sox have trip ups between ownership and upper management, upper management and the club house, and the club house and the locker room. They are falling all over themselves. This situation may nt be a huge deal but it shows the players have zero respect for the history of the organization or the ownership.

Tire fire.
 
2012-08-23 11:25:39 AM

Gunny Highway: They are falling all over themselves. This situation may nt be a huge deal but it shows the players have zero respect for the history of the organization or the ownership.


It wouldn't have been an issue if they were winning. Just like chicken and beer would've been a "look how lovable these guys are" thing if they were winning. Since they're losing, it's suddenly a reflection of how they don't care.

If ownership had any interest in making the players and the organization look good, they would've made it mandatory. But they're incompetent and expect loyalty without exhibiting it toward anyone recently.
 
2012-08-23 11:25:41 AM
This is all generational. These players have never even seen him play, and their "ambassador", David Ortiz was there. I believe that the B players listed in attendance were there because they knew that the other one's were not attending. Maybe they drew the short straws.

You don't go to a service if you don't know someone.

Good on Trot Nixon. I couldn't imagine Nomar not going to the service. He will always be a Red Sox hero. I hope more people will show up at his funeral. His generation of players will be attendance at his funeral, and expect nothing less. Let this team collapse and time to cut payroll.
 
2012-08-23 11:25:42 AM
Meanwhile, Josh Reddick laughs, and is quoted as recently saying "thanks for trading me to Oalkand for cents on the dollar, suckers."
 
2012-08-23 11:30:56 AM
Sox fans-your team is the Yankees II now. You are the same
 
2012-08-23 11:32:56 AM
You can't count on anything printed in the Boston Herald as being actual facts. They'll go with whatever version of the truth sells more papers.
 
2012-08-23 11:35:03 AM
In other news, Beckett and Adrian Gonzalez have been placed on trade waivers. Doesn't mean a heck of a lot, but a good first step.
 
2012-08-23 11:36:56 AM

doubled99: Sox fans-your team is the Yankees II now. You are the same


No they're not. The Yankees win and exhibit some class. The Red Sox overspent foolishly and suck horribly. And I'm a Red Sox fan.
 
2012-08-23 11:38:05 AM

Shtetl G: deadsanta: As to only getting 4 players to the funeral, well, not to be harsh but there are hundreds of former sox players and employees, probably one dying every month now, your players aren't going to each and every funeral, so four players is a good showing.

It wasn't just some random old red sox player. It was Johny Pesky. The named a friggin foul pole after the man. When Yogi Berra finally kicks it, I bet you more than 4 current yankees make it to the funeral.


When Stan Musial goes, it will damn near be a state funeral in the St. Louis area. And as long as the current Cardinals aren't on a road trip, most/all of the current roster will be there.

/Stood in the line for 2 hours to walk by Jack Buck's casket at the public viewing at the old Busch Stadium
//Line was around the stadium and went a few blocks.
 
2012-08-23 11:38:25 AM
Josh Beckett was having a party that night, you see

Don't be an ass. It was a charity fund raiser. No need to go full Felger when there are plenty of actual reason to hate on them.

/Never go full Felger
 
2012-08-23 11:45:19 AM

LibertyHiller: deadsanta: John Henry took his eye off the ball while he went about creating his sports empire; Now Liverpool sucks, the Sox sucks and NESN lost Heidi Watney to the Lakers. He needs to fix management in Boston, deal with the poisonous media atmosphere and get a few key players onboard the program as leaders. Boston needs a good captain again, Varitek was the glue holding that team together imo.

As to only getting 4 players to the funeral, well, not to be harsh but there are hundreds of former sox players and employees, probably one dying every month now, your players aren't going to each and every funeral, so four players is a good showing. A delegation of players to a family event, as opposed to a couple thousand current, former and related Sox employees all showing up to a funeral of a man they never actually worked with.

/non-issue imo

Sending a card to the widow of a guy who started a few games, that I can understand. This is the guy after whom the pole in Fenway's RF is named. When he was traded to Detroit, he taught everything he knew to a bonus baby named Kaline, who went on to snag 10 Gold Gloves. Pesky spent part or all of seven decades in the Red Sox organization; he was the definition of "team player."

He deserved better than this from his baseball family.



Amen.
 
2012-08-23 11:48:06 AM

Shtetl G: deadsanta: As to only getting 4 players to the funeral, well, not to be harsh but there are hundreds of former sox players and employees, probably one dying every month now, your players aren't going to each and every funeral, so four players is a good showing.

It wasn't just some random old red sox player. It was Johny Pesky. The named a friggin foul pole after the man. When Yogi Berra finally kicks it, I bet you more than 4 current yankees make it to the funeral.


Plus Yogi Berra said it best:
"Always go to other people's funerals, otherwise they won't go to yours."
 
2012-08-23 11:56:45 AM

mjohnson71: When Stan Musial goes, it will damn near be a state funeral in the St. Louis area. And as long as the current Cardinals aren't on a road trip, most/all of the current roster will be there.

/Stood in the line for 2 hours to walk by Jack Buck's casket at the public viewing at the old Busch Stadium
//Line was around the stadium and went a few blocks.


/somber nod

What Could have honestly been a PR coup for the Sox (one they sorely need) in "we went to the funeral, paid our respects, and then went to a fundraiser to raise money in his honor" into "see, TOLD you we don't give a shiat."

//fark the sox, #3 on my "teams I hate with a burning passion" list
 
2012-08-23 12:02:03 PM
Threads like these are helpful, they reinforce why I've labeled some Farkers as "idiots"
 
2012-08-23 12:09:51 PM

lilbjorn: /Never go full Felger


Truer words...
 
2012-08-23 12:10:50 PM
That's disgusting. The man was a Red Sox institution and four players and only four players showed up. While I'm tempted to blame the players, you have to also blame the Front Office and ownership. They should have walked into the clubhouse, told everyone to get dressed and get their ass on the buses. But they didn't because the Red Sox owners care only about making money and not about baseball or the image of the Red Sox.
 
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