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(Washington Post)   The garbage index is plummeting. Garbage amount is directly linked to economic growth. Crap   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 24
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2012-08-23 09:16:21 AM  
So, what they're saying, is that the economy is trashed?
 
2012-08-23 09:25:14 AM  
Just wait until they start looking inside my trash can. Sure, my amount has gone down, it's all left-over arugula, caviar and gold-plated condoms.
 
2012-08-23 09:49:08 AM  
Holy crap, the entire page is one giant javascript? I've never had to no-script to READ a page before.
 
2012-08-23 10:04:08 AM  
I can't see people recycling that much more or eating out less. I am going to go with people are becoming horders because of shows like "American Pickers".
 
2012-08-23 10:20:11 AM  
In a recent issue of New Scientist, Fred Pearce discussed the possibility that the rich world might soon be reaching a point of "peak stuff," in which economic prosperity is no longer so firmly linked to the amount of energy and raw materials we use-and, in turn, waste. But it would be odd if the historically tight connection between growth and trash became disconnected in just a few short months.

Hmm, anecdotally, I already feel like I'm at "peak stuff". I recently got married and had to register for shiat and all I could think was how much I didn't really want any of it. I'm more interested in saving and investing. I can't think of anything I really need.

However, I doubt we've decoupled garbage and growth, so "peak stuff" on a macro level doesn't seem likely.
 
2012-08-23 10:35:15 AM  

Rapmaster2000: In a recent issue of New Scientist, Fred Pearce discussed the possibility that the rich world might soon be reaching a point of "peak stuff," in which economic prosperity is no longer so firmly linked to the amount of energy and raw materials we use-and, in turn, waste. But it would be odd if the historically tight connection between growth and trash became disconnected in just a few short months.

Hmm, anecdotally, I already feel like I'm at "peak stuff". I recently got married and had to register for shiat and all I could think was how much I didn't really want any of it. I'm more interested in saving and investing. I can't think of anything I really need.

However, I doubt we've decoupled garbage and growth, so "peak stuff" on a macro level doesn't seem likely.


Have you tried registering at a liquor store? or have your guests make a donation to Obama's campaign? or register for lots of candles, turn around and sell them on ebay, and when your friends ask about there gift, you can say you used it already, it smelled great and thank-you.
 
2012-08-23 10:36:53 AM  

Hyjamon: Rapmaster2000: In a recent issue of New Scientist, Fred Pearce discussed the possibility that the rich world might soon be reaching a point of "peak stuff," in which economic prosperity is no longer so firmly linked to the amount of energy and raw materials we use-and, in turn, waste. But it would be odd if the historically tight connection between growth and trash became disconnected in just a few short months.

Hmm, anecdotally, I already feel like I'm at "peak stuff". I recently got married and had to register for shiat and all I could think was how much I didn't really want any of it. I'm more interested in saving and investing. I can't think of anything I really need.

However, I doubt we've decoupled garbage and growth, so "peak stuff" on a macro level doesn't seem likely.

Have you tried registering at a liquor store? or have your guests make a donation to Obama's campaign? or register for lots of candles, turn around and sell them on ebay, and when your friends ask about there gift, you can say you used it already, it smelled great and thank-you.


I found out too late that Bed, Bath, and Beyond does straight cash exchanges. I should have done that.
 
2012-08-23 10:37:53 AM  

bark_atda_moon: I can't see people recycling that much more or eating out less. I am going to go with people are becoming horders because of shows like "American Pickers".


it depends. I know now that I have recycling services, I only have one 13 gallon bag of trash per week but almost a full large (60+ gallon) container full of recyclables. Also, the internet may be impacting this...people electing to get e-magazines opposed to print, email vs. regular mail, etc.
 
2012-08-23 11:07:39 AM  
Oh fark, I forgot to take out the trash. Sorry for skewing the numbers, guys.
 
2012-08-23 11:20:27 AM  

Hyjamon: bark_atda_moon: I can't see people recycling that much more or eating out less. I am going to go with people are becoming horders because of shows like "American Pickers".

it depends. I know now that I have recycling services, I only have one 13 gallon bag of trash per week but almost a full large (60+ gallon) container full of recyclables. Also, the internet may be impacting this...people electing to get e-magazines opposed to print, email vs. regular mail, etc.


Depending on where you live, there is a really good chance that most of the plastic you recycle ends up in the trash anyway. I think most places can recycle "1" and "2"s, but very few can do the really high numbered plastic pieces.
 
2012-08-23 11:23:39 AM  

bark_atda_moon: Hyjamon: bark_atda_moon: I can't see people recycling that much more or eating out less. I am going to go with people are becoming horders because of shows like "American Pickers".

it depends. I know now that I have recycling services, I only have one 13 gallon bag of trash per week but almost a full large (60+ gallon) container full of recyclables. Also, the internet may be impacting this...people electing to get e-magazines opposed to print, email vs. regular mail, etc.

Depending on where you live, there is a really good chance that most of the plastic you recycle ends up in the trash anyway. I think most places can recycle "1" and "2"s, but very few can do the really high numbered plastic pieces.


Fortunately, my recycling is mostly cans:

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2012-08-23 11:35:38 AM  

Rapmaster2000: bark_atda_moon: Hyjamon: bark_atda_moon: I can't see people recycling that much more or eating out less. I am going to go with people are becoming horders because of shows like "American Pickers".

it depends. I know now that I have recycling services, I only have one 13 gallon bag of trash per week but almost a full large (60+ gallon) container full of recyclables. Also, the internet may be impacting this...people electing to get e-magazines opposed to print, email vs. regular mail, etc.

Depending on where you live, there is a really good chance that most of the plastic you recycle ends up in the trash anyway. I think most places can recycle "1" and "2"s, but very few can do the really high numbered plastic pieces.

Fortunately, my recycling is mostly cans:

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I prefer this one:

www.ourbeers.com
 
2012-08-23 11:44:02 AM  
FARK: where every thread can be turned into a beer thread.
 
2012-08-23 11:59:22 AM  
I've got a 50 gallon recycling bin, a 50 gallon yard waste bin and a 26 gallon trash bin. So, that would be a 79.3 % decrease in trash going to the landfill. Probably even less as I have a fourth container for glass.
 
2012-08-23 12:10:11 PM  
Future Nobel Prize in Economics Winner:

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2012-08-23 12:21:46 PM  
Is this measured by volume or mass? I could soak all my garbage in water if that'll help.
 
2012-08-23 12:32:24 PM  

bark_atda_moon: I can't see people recycling that much more or eating out less. I am going to go with people are becoming horders because of shows like "American Pickers".


Hoarding is damaging to economic activity.

Goods and money need to flow.
 
2012-08-23 12:56:27 PM  

you have pee hands: Is this measured by volume or mass? I could soak all my garbage in water if that'll help.


I think it's based on railroad carloads, so that correlates better with volume.

That said I wonder why we're just looking at carloads of trash instead of carloads of everything. I'm sure the other stuff that the railroads ship matter too.
 
2012-08-23 12:58:49 PM  

Kuroshin: I prefer this one:



My favorite is Old Chub, but in any case you all of good taste.
 
2012-08-23 12:59:56 PM  
My favorite is Old Chub, but in any case you all of have good taste

/fixed
 
2012-08-23 01:12:35 PM  

meat0918: bark_atda_moon: I can't see people recycling that much more or eating out less. I am going to go with people are becoming horders because of shows like "American Pickers".

Hoarding is damaging to economic activity.

Goods and money need to flow.


I'm not worried about hoarding - I'm worried about reuse, refurbishment, "upcycling", and all the other trends that are starting to slowly reverse our "throwaway" society. Less interest in new products, more interest in keeping existing products working for longer periods, and an eye towards reducing waste and excess is a good thing in some ways, but it's definitely not what producers want to hear.
 
2012-08-23 01:50:25 PM  
The Baltic Dry Index, an indicator of the cost of moving major raw materials by sea, has been plunging too, meaning much less is being shipped. In fact, I think it's at or near the lowest point it reached in the 2008-2009 recession. A very bad sign.
 
2012-08-23 03:56:08 PM  

natazha: I've got a 50 gallon recycling bin, a 50 gallon yard waste bin and a 26 gallon trash bin. So, that would be a 79.3 % decrease in trash going to the landfill. Probably even less as I have a fourth container for glass.


Yeah, it would, if you filled they all proportionally at the same time containing the same weight.
 
2012-08-23 04:19:19 PM  
My baby, ran away with the garbage man
My baby, she ran away with the garbage man
Oh I need you so bad baby, so you can empty my garbage can

I don't know where she's been, I don't know where she's goin'
I don't know where she's been, I don't even know where she's goin'
Please come back to me baby, my garbage can is overflowin'

My baby, she ran away with all my hard earned cash
My baby, ran away with all my hard earned cash
I don't need the money all that bad, I just need someone to empty my trash

My baby, ran away with the garbage man
My baby, she ran away with the garbage man
Oh I need you so bad honey, so you can empty my garbage can

My baby, she ran away with the garbage man
My baby, she ran away with the garbage man
I need you so bad, so you can empty my garbage can


/Thanks Tab Benoit
 
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