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(Mother Nature Network)   Remember when you were eight and you got that goldfish as your first pet and you vowed to take care of it but it still died a week later? That's exactly what happened to a Korean aquarium. Except instead of a goldfish it was a whale shark   (mnn.com) divider line 57
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2012-08-23 08:34:33 AM  
Like Orcas, whale sharks don't belong in Aquariums.
 
2012-08-23 09:03:05 AM  

quatchi: Like Orcas, whale sharks don't belong in Aquariums.


NO ONE who works at the zoo likes the animals being in the zoo. Seriously, however much you think you like animals, take that and multiply by 100 or more for people who spend their lives working with them. It's a terrible thing to be in a cage, and we hate to see terrible things happen to what we care about most.

The problem is now, there's no habitat left to release them to. And nearly all AZA animals were born in captivity anyway, so releasing them to the wild would be like dumping a fat accountant off in the middle of the least populated part of the Serengeti and saying "Good luck." Not a good plan. So for now, zoos are the last refuge for many species and they try their best to up numbers and reintroduce species.

But these farkers who run this aquarium stole a feakin' whale shark right out of the ocean. They're evil. This is when I wish Old Boy was real and he had his hammer handy. I think the people who run that clusterfark need some dental work.
 
2012-08-23 09:30:36 AM  

doglover: NO ONE who works at the zoo likes the animals being in the zoo. Seriously, however much you think you like animals, take that and multiply by 100 or more for people who spend their lives working with them. It's a terrible thing to be in a cage, and we hate to see terrible things happen to what we care about most.

The problem is now, there's no habitat left to release them to. And nearly all AZA animals were born in captivity anyway, so releasing them to the wild would be like dumping a fat accountant off in the middle of the least populated part of the Serengeti and saying "Good luck." Not a good plan. So for now, zoos are the last refuge for many species and they try their best to up numbers and reintroduce species.


I understand and appreciate all of this.

But these farkers who run this aquarium stole a feakin' whale shark right out of the ocean. They're evil. This is when I wish Old Boy was real and he had his hammer handy. I think the people who run that clusterfark need some dental work.

THIS!
 
2012-08-23 12:01:55 PM  
they're gonna need a HUGE toilet!
 
2012-08-23 12:02:03 PM  
I see that footage of the shark was shown on Mystery Science Theater 3000. Was it part of a documentary or something?
 
2012-08-23 12:02:47 PM  
The carnival goldfish problem. Spend $40 winning a goldfish, and it dies a week later.

/Also, "The Carnival Goldfish Problem" would be a Big Bang Theory episode name
 
2012-08-23 12:03:15 PM  
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2012-08-23 12:05:34 PM  
doglover SmartestFunniest 2012-08-23 09:03:05 AM


quatchi: Like Orcas, whale sharks don't belong in Aquariums.

NO ONE who works at the zoo likes the animals being in the zoo. Seriously, however much you think you like animals, take that and multiply by 100 or more for people who spend their lives working with them. It's a terrible thing to be in a cage, and we hate to see terrible things happen to what we care about most.

The problem is now, there's no habitat left to release them to. And nearly all AZA animals were born in captivity anyway, so releasing them to the wild would be like dumping a fat accountant off in the middle of the least populated part of the Serengeti and saying "Good luck." Not a good plan. So for now, zoos are the last refuge for many species and they try their best to up numbers and reintroduce species.

But these farkers who run this aquarium stole a feakin' whale shark right out of the ocean. They're evil. This is when I wish Old Boy was real and he had his hammer handy. I think the people who run that clusterfark need some dental work.




My mother worked at the Atlanta Zoo for 11 years. She loved the job, and didn't have any problem with the animals being there.
So you are wrong.
 
2012-08-23 12:06:03 PM  

doglover: NO ONE who works at the zoo likes the animals being in the zoo. Seriously, however much you think you like animals, take that and multiply by 100 or more for people who spend their lives working with them. It's a terrible thing to be in a cage, and we hate to see terrible things happen to what we care about most.

The problem is now, there's no habitat left to release them to.


What's an alterative? What about wildlife sanctuaries?
 
2012-08-23 12:09:03 PM  
shiat like this pisses me off. As a species humans only know how to fark things up...
 
2012-08-23 12:09:06 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: The carnival goldfish problem. Spend $40 winning a goldfish, and it dies a week later.

/Also, "The Carnival Goldfish Problem" would be a Big Bang Theory episode name


Every year at the rodeo carnival, my youngest wins a fish or two. We have a nice big aquarium filled with 3 and 4 year old goldfish.

Sometimes, if people don't treat them as throwaways, they can thrive.

/Getting a 100 gallon aquarium for them soon.
 
2012-08-23 12:09:26 PM  
We're going to need a bigger toilet.
 
2012-08-23 12:10:17 PM  

Just_a_Bear: they're gonna need a HUGE toilet!


Philadelphia ?
 
2012-08-23 12:10:18 PM  
About 20 years ago I was living on Okinawa in Japan. At a park up in the North of the island they had a Whale Shark in an Aquarium. It was a beautiful creature, but even then I really felt sick knowing that such a beautiful, docile giant would be spending it's life swimming in circles in a tank smaller than half a football field.
 
2012-08-23 12:10:22 PM  
Did they use a giant egg beater to churn the water just in case the shark was lonely for the ocean? Because that got messy real quickly.
 
2012-08-23 12:15:05 PM  
They were supposed to feed it a surfer once every three days.
 
2012-08-23 12:17:27 PM  
they're gonna eat it.
 
2012-08-23 12:18:14 PM  
We kept our beta fish alive for 5 years. It's got to be some sort of domestic record.
 
2012-08-23 12:19:08 PM  
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Congrats on the achievement Korean gamers!
 
2012-08-23 12:19:42 PM  
In related news, Korean aquarium announces fundraiser featuring world's biggest bowl of shark jjampong next week...
 
2012-08-23 12:22:09 PM  

doglover:
But these farkers who run this aquarium stole a feakin' whale shark right out of the ocean. They're evil. This is when I wish Old Boy was real and he had his hammer handy. I think the people who run that clusterfark need some dental work.


Ah, there's that angry rhetoric.

That's certainly what we need more of.
 
2012-08-23 12:22:37 PM  

amindtat: [t0.gstatic.com image 421x68]

Congrats on the achievement Korean gamers!


That was a fun achievement.
 
2012-08-23 12:26:32 PM  

Fathom: About 20 years ago I was living on Okinawa in Japan. At a park up in the North of the island they had a Whale Shark in an Aquarium. It was a beautiful creature, but even then I really felt sick knowing that such a beautiful, docile giant would be spending it's life swimming in circles in a tank smaller than half a football field.


Wow, I was always lead to believe that there were no whale sharks in captivity cause they always die inside an aquarium.
 
2012-08-23 12:26:40 PM  
doglover:

But these farkers who run this aquarium stole a feakin' whale shark right out of the ocean. They're evil. This is when I wish Old Boy was real and he had his hammer handy. I think the people who run that clusterfark need some dental work.

They are making Oldshark with the other shark they are releasing.
 
2012-08-23 12:27:42 PM  

Nothing To See Here: Just_a_Bear: they're gonna need a HUGE toilet!

Philadelphia ?


ouch! maybe Camden I could see...
 
2012-08-23 12:33:08 PM  

wildstarr: Fathom: About 20 years ago I was living on Okinawa in Japan. At a park up in the North of the island they had a Whale Shark in an Aquarium. It was a beautiful creature, but even then I really felt sick knowing that such a beautiful, docile giant would be spending it's life swimming in circles in a tank smaller than half a football field.

Wow, I was always lead to believe that there were no whale sharks in captivity cause they always die inside an aquarium.


Georgia Aquarium had three of them.
 
2012-08-23 12:34:03 PM  

wildstarr: Wow, I was always lead to believe that there were no whale sharks in captivity cause they always die inside an aquarium.


You're thinking of Great Whites. No one has been able to keep one alive in captivity for very long because they sort of give up and die.
 
2012-08-23 12:36:03 PM  
Was his name Emilio?
 
2012-08-23 12:36:26 PM  
Poor Sharkie...Should have gone to BEST KOREA!
 
2012-08-23 12:39:36 PM  

jscart: wildstarr: Fathom: About 20 years ago I was living on Okinawa in Japan. At a park up in the North of the island they had a Whale Shark in an Aquarium. It was a beautiful creature, but even then I really felt sick knowing that such a beautiful, docile giant would be spending it's life swimming in circles in a tank smaller than half a football field.

Wow, I was always lead to believe that there were no whale sharks in captivity cause they always die inside an aquarium.

Georgia Aquarium had three of them.


Didn't they have four and one died? How many do they have now?
 
2012-08-23 12:44:48 PM  

jscart: wildstarr: Fathom: About 20 years ago I was living on Okinawa in Japan. At a park up in the North of the island they had a Whale Shark in an Aquarium. It was a beautiful creature, but even then I really felt sick knowing that such a beautiful, docile giant would be spending it's life swimming in circles in a tank smaller than half a football field.

Wow, I was always lead to believe that there were no whale sharks in captivity cause they always die inside an aquarium.

Georgia Aquarium had three of them.


The Okinawa Aquarium has three of them as well. I was there just last year.
 
2012-08-23 12:45:50 PM  
That's a lot of Bi Bim Bap.
 
2012-08-23 12:48:18 PM  

doglover: quatchi: Like Orcas, whale sharks don't belong in Aquariums.

NO ONE who works at the zoo likes the animals being in the zoo. Seriously, however much you think you like animals, take that and multiply by 100 or more for people who spend their lives working with them. It's a terrible thing to be in a cage, and we hate to see terrible things happen to what we care about most.

The problem is now, there's no habitat left to release them to. And nearly all AZA animals were born in captivity anyway, so releasing them to the wild would be like dumping a fat accountant off in the middle of the least populated part of the Serengeti and saying "Good luck." Not a good plan. So for now, zoos are the last refuge for many species and they try their best to up numbers and reintroduce species.

But these farkers who run this aquarium stole a feakin' whale shark right out of the ocean. They're evil. This is when I wish Old Boy was real and he had his hammer handy. I think the people who run that clusterfark need some dental work.


Another point many people overlook about zoos is that these animals act as ambassadors, introducing people to them, alerting them to their cause (saving habitat) and bringing in money for that purpose. Just about all zoos I've been to have various wild life funds you can donate to while at the zoo, but those that don't still end up raising awareness of people who are more likely to donate after they leave the zoo.

Huge shame about the whale shark, saw some in Atlanta a few years back, amazing creatures.
 
2012-08-23 12:52:52 PM  
How big a tank do you need for a whale shark? Those things are farking huge
 
2012-08-23 12:59:59 PM  

wildstarr: Fathom: About 20 years ago I was living on Okinawa in Japan. At a park up in the North of the island they had a Whale Shark in an Aquarium. It was a beautiful creature, but even then I really felt sick knowing that such a beautiful, docile giant would be spending it's life swimming in circles in a tank smaller than half a football field.

Wow, I was always lead to believe that there were no whale sharks in captivity cause they always die inside an aquarium.


Doesn't Shedd have one?
 
2012-08-23 01:01:51 PM  

Bedstead Polisher: doglover: NO ONE who works at the zoo likes the animals being in the zoo. Seriously, however much you think you like animals, take that and multiply by 100 or more for people who spend their lives working with them. It's a terrible thing to be in a cage, and we hate to see terrible things happen to what we care about most.

The problem is now, there's no habitat left to release them to.

What's an alterative? What about wildlife sanctuaries?


Wildlife sanctuaries sound like a great idea at first. But once you fence off a habitat, it totally wrecks the ecosystem that got it going in the first place. Case in point... I think it was Roosevelt that fenced off part of Yellowstone (or one of those parks), and the result was the predators got out of control. Then, after they killed all the prey, they starved to death. In other words, human intervention in nature is short sighted and rarely well planned.

Not that I'm an expert on fish (although, I actually am), a whale shark is a ridiculously fragile animal. They have been at the top of their food chain (or at least with lack of predators) for so long, they don't even know enough to be afraid. Any person in control of that aquarium should have IMMEDIATELY demanded the release of the animals. There is no way it would survive in captivity.
The things feed on plankton! Where the hell does anyone expect to find enough plankton to feed it?!

This whole story stinks of rotten stupidity.
 
2012-08-23 01:08:22 PM  
maybe they were hungry?

/ Koreans eat all sorts of things
 
2012-08-23 01:10:49 PM  
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2012-08-23 01:13:14 PM  
I think the Atlanta aquarium had 2 die. One was apparently pretty sick when it showed up.
 
2012-08-23 01:14:00 PM  
The 4 whale sharks in the Georgia Aquarium were going to be eaten if the Aquarium had not acquired them.

I look at it this way: Even if keeping them in the tank is cruel, the amount of knowledge gained by keeping a few in captivity could be worth it to the rest of the whale sharks in the wild. Sacrificing 4 to save thousands.

If you are ever in Atlanta, it is worth the price of admission just to sit in front of that big window and watch them swim by.
 
2012-08-23 01:16:26 PM  

TheGreatGazoo: I think the Atlanta aquarium had 2 die. One was apparently pretty sick when it showed up.


After I shot my mouth off (keyboard) in my last post, I went to Wikipedia to see what they had to say. And yeah, 2 males died in Atlanta back in 2007. The only other places they are in captivity are Japan and China. And even those are only a few.

I still stand by my statements that they are among the last animals that should be held in captivity. If it's a rescue, that's another matter. But taking a healthy one from the wild is just stupid.
 
2012-08-23 01:19:53 PM  

Earpj: Every year at the rodeo carnival, my youngest wins a fish or two. We have a nice big aquarium filled with 3 and 4 year old goldfish.

Sometimes, if people don't treat them as throwaways, they can thrive.

/Getting a 100 gallon aquarium for them soon.


People are just really really shiatty about taking care of fish. People act like they are (and they are sold and marketed as) disposable pets, and shiatty pet stores use them to push tanks and supplies.
 
2012-08-23 01:35:28 PM  

chookbillion: jscart: wildstarr: Fathom: About 20 years ago I was living on Okinawa in Japan. At a park up in the North of the island they had a Whale Shark in an Aquarium. It was a beautiful creature, but even then I really felt sick knowing that such a beautiful, docile giant would be spending it's life swimming in circles in a tank smaller than half a football field.

Wow, I was always lead to believe that there were no whale sharks in captivity cause they always die inside an aquarium.

Georgia Aquarium had three of them.

Didn't they have four and one died? How many do they have now?


They have four now.
They started with two in 2005, got two more in 2006, then in 2007 they got a third pair and the original 2005 pair died - they seemed to think it was something to do with an infection from treating a parasitic leech outbreak.
 
2012-08-23 01:36:37 PM  

Earpj: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: The carnival goldfish problem. Spend $40 winning a goldfish, and it dies a week later.

/Also, "The Carnival Goldfish Problem" would be a Big Bang Theory episode name

Every year at the rodeo carnival, my youngest wins a fish or two. We have a nice big aquarium filled with 3 and 4 year old goldfish.

Sometimes, if people don't treat them as throwaways, they can thrive.

/Getting a 100 gallon aquarium for them soon.


We know some people who built a nice lake for fishing and very carefully stocked it over the years. They put feeder goldfish in to provide the small fish they had put in plenty of food (since there were not young fish in the lake at first). Well, now the lake is incredibly well stocked and so fun to fish, but a few of the goldfish were not eaten and instead have grown. My friend caught a 5 lb gold fish the other day. We threw it back. Doubt they are good eating and it was just too funny to deny someone else the pleasure of catching it.
 
2012-08-23 01:38:31 PM  
Not all zoos are bad. Our Alaska zoo is made up of injured or orphaned animals that can't make it on their own. It's nice they have a place to stay. The zoo was founded by a farmer who took in an elephant that a circus abandoned.
 
2012-08-23 01:39:33 PM  
I swam with one in the wild. Amazing experience.
 
2012-08-23 01:41:03 PM  
A weeks worth of seeing that damn gangnam style will kill anybody.

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2012-08-23 01:41:49 PM  

doubled99: doglover SmartestFunniest 2012-08-23 09:03:05 AM


quatchi: Like Orcas, whale sharks don't belong in Aquariums.

NO ONE who works at the zoo likes the animals being in the zoo. Seriously, however much you think you like animals, take that and multiply by 100 or more for people who spend their lives working with them. It's a terrible thing to be in a cage, and we hate to see terrible things happen to what we care about most.

The problem is now, there's no habitat left to release them to. And nearly all AZA animals were born in captivity anyway, so releasing them to the wild would be like dumping a fat accountant off in the middle of the least populated part of the Serengeti and saying "Good luck." Not a good plan. So for now, zoos are the last refuge for many species and they try their best to up numbers and reintroduce species.

But these farkers who run this aquarium stole a feakin' whale shark right out of the ocean. They're evil. This is when I wish Old Boy was real and he had his hammer handy. I think the people who run that clusterfark need some dental work.



My mother worked at the Atlanta Zoo for 11 years. She loved the job, and didn't have any problem with the animals being there.
So you are wrong.


i appreciate where doglover is coming from. Mrs. Kritter and i used to visit zoos long ago. Over time we became more enlightened and educated about animal rights. We cut zoos, aquariums and circuses out of our entertainment about 20 years ago.

the last zoo we did attend was in one of the Southern america states. it was unique in that the animals got to pretty much run free while the visitors were up away from them on walkways and such. that was pretty cool.

if you ever get a chance to see footage of Wayne Newton's estate check it out. the man has spent a fortune making sure outcast animals were given most excellent homes. i have nothing but respect for him after seeing the goodness of his heart.
 
2012-08-23 01:56:44 PM  
I hope they don't drive it through downtown and it 'splodes!
 
2012-08-23 02:00:10 PM  

Urinal Cake Mix: Doesn't Shedd have one?


Shedd has belugas, if I recall correctly (it's been a few years since I've been to Chicago).
 
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