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(STLToday)   New Math: 1. Todd Akin says something stupid and offensive. 2. The Democrats want him to drop out of the election. 3. So does Karl Rove. 4. Therefore, Rove is trying to fix the election   (stltoday.com) divider line 60
    More: Dumbass, Todd Akin, Karl Rove, College Republicans, human beings, John Ashcroft, throw in, Crossroads GPS, Missouri  
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2012-08-23 08:53:24 AM
One could argue that Rove set the GOP into the death-spiral it's in right now, which led to Akin's situation. Either way, who cares! Just enjoy the magnificent collapse.
 
2012-08-23 09:17:57 AM
Well sure....Rove is an Evil Weeble.

But is he required to fund this dickbag's campaign? It's one thing to actively interfere in a campaign. It's quite another to simply refuse to support it.
 
2012-08-23 09:18:21 AM

Ed Finnerty: Either way, who cares! Just enjoy the magnificent collapse.


I know I've got *my* popcorn handy...
 
2012-08-23 09:24:45 AM
Which Democrats wanted Akin out? All the ones I heard about considered it an easy win with him in the race. There were a lot of Republicans asking him to drop out though. But maybe I missed it since I didn't read all 300 of the Akin threads.
 
2012-08-23 09:25:11 AM
2. The Democrats want him to drop out of the election.

qué?
 
2012-08-23 09:26:00 AM

theknuckler_33: 2. The Democrats want him to drop out of the election.


Subby's math is wrong.
 
2012-08-23 09:28:35 AM

xanadian: Ed Finnerty: Either way, who cares! Just enjoy the magnificent collapse.

I know I've got *my* popcorn handy...


Can I grab some? This is going to be great!
 
2012-08-23 09:28:39 AM
Any democrat telling this guy to get out of the race would get a personal call from Obama with orders to shut the fark up.
 
2012-08-23 09:29:54 AM
MC Rove ain't give a fark.
 
2012-08-23 09:35:37 AM
2. The Democrats want him to drop out of the election.

Just thought I'd point this out again...
 
2012-08-23 09:36:02 AM
I'm missing the connection between "not funding Akin" and "manipulating the election". I mean, I'm not funding Akin either, should Missouri voters be annoyed with me too?
 
2012-08-23 09:36:10 AM

theknuckler_33: 2. The Democrats want him to drop out of the election.

qué?


Pretty much everyone except Akin himself wants him to drop out of the election at this point. Rush freaking Limbaugh has called on Akin to drop out, and when you've lost Rush's support you've got no one left.

Some Dems may see an opportunity in his run from a standpoint of ruthless pragmatism: there might have been easier Dem wins in history, but I doubt there have been many. But I doubt that even they actually want him to run. They're just looking for a bright side.
 
2012-08-23 09:38:12 AM

palelizard: I'm missing the connection between "not funding Akin" and "manipulating the election". I mean, I'm not funding Akin either, should Missouri voters be annoyed with me too?


Yes. If you don't support Akin, you don't support America.
 
2012-08-23 09:38:26 AM

Ed Finnerty: One could argue that Rove set the GOP into the death-spiral it's in right now, which led to Akin's situation. Either way, who cares! Just enjoy the magnificent collapse.


You might say if the collapse is inevitable, the Republicans should just relax and enjoy it.
 
2012-08-23 09:38:29 AM

Diogenes: But is he required to fund this dickbag's campaign? It's one thing to actively interfere in a campaign. It's quite another to simply refuse to support it.


He's not required to. But if he said publicly "My superpac will not fund this election unless Akin drops out" I think that would be majorly illegal.
 
2012-08-23 09:39:06 AM

Millennium: But I doubt that even they actually want him to run.


Why would democrats not want this guy to run?
 
2012-08-23 09:39:27 AM
As a liberal, which sadly means voting Democrat out of the lesser of two evils to not risk the chance of the psychos on the right from winning, I want him and his ilk to stay in the races and make themselves as visible as possible.

The more they spout off their nonsense, the more normal folks who don't normally give a damn about politics will hear what the are saying and wake up to what an evil force of destruction and willful ignorance they are. And, it let's me know who in my everyday life agrees with them so I can avoid them.
 
2012-08-23 09:39:56 AM
Rove is behind everything.

Believing in a shadowy figure being responsible for everythingisnt a sign of mental illness... if it's Rove
 
2012-08-23 09:40:47 AM

Hollie Maea: Diogenes: But is he required to fund this dickbag's campaign? It's one thing to actively interfere in a campaign. It's quite another to simply refuse to support it.

He's not required to. But if he said publicly "My superpac will not fund this election unless Akin drops out" I think that would be majorly illegal.


I don't see how that would be illegal in any way.
 
2012-08-23 09:41:46 AM
I just generally assume Rove is trying to fix every election. It's the only thing he's good at.
 
2012-08-23 09:41:48 AM

Shadowknight: As a liberal, which sadly means voting Democrat out of the lesser of two evils to not risk the chance of the psychos on the right from winning, I want him and his ilk to stay in the races and make themselves as visible as possible.

The more they spout off their nonsense, the more normal folks who don't normally give a damn about politics will hear what the are saying and wake up to what an evil force of destruction and willful ignorance they are. And, it let's me know who in my everyday life agrees with them so I can avoid them.


And if he wins? Let's be honest here... the voters are like abused spouses. They know that he's bad but since you are attacking "one of them"...
 
2012-08-23 09:42:19 AM

shastacola: Millennium: But I doubt that even they actually want him to run.

Why would democrats not want this guy to run?


There's still a chance, however infinitesimal, that he might win.
 
2012-08-23 09:44:00 AM

Hollie Maea: He's not required to. But if he said publicly "My superpac will not fund this election unless Akin drops out" I think that would be majorly illegal.


I don't think that would be the case. The main barrier from PAC to candidate iirc is on non-public information, while the majority of rules concern information from candidate to PAC.
 
2012-08-23 09:45:00 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: Hollie Maea: Diogenes: But is he required to fund this dickbag's campaign? It's one thing to actively interfere in a campaign. It's quite another to simply refuse to support it.

He's not required to. But if he said publicly "My superpac will not fund this election unless Akin drops out" I think that would be majorly illegal.

I don't see how that would be illegal in any way.


Rove isn't running for office, he can point his SuperPac in any direction he wants.
 
2012-08-23 09:45:19 AM

Hollie Maea: He's not required to. But if he said publicly "My superpac will not fund this election unless Akin drops out" I think that would be majorly illegal.


Why? SuperPACs don't fund elections, per se: campaigns, yes, but not elections.

(Technically they don't fund campaigns either, but the thinly-veiled ads aren't fooling anyone, and not fooling anyone is the point).
 
2012-08-23 09:45:27 AM
Subby is mistaken.

The Dems very much want Akin on the ballot.

It makes the possibility of a Dem win all the more certain.
 
2012-08-23 09:45:33 AM

Mrbogey: Rove is behind everything.

Believing in a shadowy figure being responsible for everythingisnt a sign of mental illness... if it's Rove


A Rovin', a Rovin', since Rove has been my ru-i-in,
won't you come a Rovin' with me fair maid.
 
2012-08-23 09:45:36 AM

Millennium: shastacola: Millennium: But I doubt that even they actually want him to run.

Why would democrats not want this guy to run?

There's still a chance, however infinitesimal, that he might win.


There would be a much better chance of another republican winning. Some republican is going to run regardless,might as well be the one with the least chance of winning.
 
2012-08-23 09:47:20 AM

deadcrickets: Shadowknight: As a liberal, which sadly means voting Democrat out of the lesser of two evils to not risk the chance of the psychos on the right from winning, I want him and his ilk to stay in the races and make themselves as visible as possible.

The more they spout off their nonsense, the more normal folks who don't normally give a damn about politics will hear what the are saying and wake up to what an evil force of destruction and willful ignorance they are. And, it let's me know who in my everyday life agrees with them so I can avoid them.

And if he wins? Let's be honest here... the voters are like abused spouses. They know that he's bad but since you are attacking "one of them"...


I think that works in local house races. We know Michele is an idiot but she is on TV all the time so it must be good for us. A senate race would seem to be a different story. You don't want your state to be a laughing stock and everyone from Romney to Rush is calling for a better option.
 
2012-08-23 09:48:09 AM

Ed Finnerty: One could argue that Rove set the GOP into the death-spiral it's in right now, which led to Akin's situation. Either way, who cares! Just enjoy the magnificent collapse.


After the Romney loses this election, I give the Republican party another two years in its present form.

It isn't the black tea party it's the mushroom tea party...
 
2012-08-23 09:48:58 AM

Citrate1007: theknuckler_33: 2. The Democrats want him to drop out of the election.


Subby's math is wrong.


Must be the same Democrats that were digging up dirt on Herman Cain back in the primary.
 
2012-08-23 09:51:02 AM

Analgesic: Which Democrats wanted Akin out? All the ones I heard about considered it an easy win with him in the race. There were a lot of Republicans asking him to drop out though. But maybe I missed it since I didn't read all 300 of the Akin threads.


Didn't the Dems give him like 1.5 mill in campaign contributions?
 
2012-08-23 09:51:59 AM

CujoQuarrel: Analgesic: Which Democrats wanted Akin out? All the ones I heard about considered it an easy win with him in the race. There were a lot of Republicans asking him to drop out though. But maybe I missed it since I didn't read all 300 of the Akin threads.

Didn't the Dems give him like 1.5 mill in campaign contributions?


No.
 
2012-08-23 09:53:26 AM

Mrbogey: Rove is behind everything.

Believing in a shadowy figure being responsible for everythingisnt a sign of mental illness... if it's Rove


That's silly. Everybody knows George Soros really controls everything.
 
2012-08-23 09:53:44 AM

sprawl15: Yes. If you don't support Akin, you don't support America.


Well, I sure don't want anyone to think I don't support America. What's Akin's log-in? You think he'd like a TF membership?
 
2012-08-23 09:54:33 AM

deadcrickets: Shadowknight: As a liberal, which sadly means voting Democrat out of the lesser of two evils to not risk the chance of the psychos on the right from winning, I want him and his ilk to stay in the races and make themselves as visible as possible.

The more they spout off their nonsense, the more normal folks who don't normally give a damn about politics will hear what the are saying and wake up to what an evil force of destruction and willful ignorance they are. And, it let's me know who in my everyday life agrees with them so I can avoid them.

And if he wins? Let's be honest here... the voters are like abused spouses. They know that he's bad but since you are attacking "one of them"...


Yeah, it's a possibility. But they've won more or less by going under the radar. They toss out a little red meat here ad there, but up until recently they tried to keep their more insane stuff quiet until trying to enact legislation to make it happen.

Now, they are PROUD of their insane views. The are spouting it on national TV and defending each other when one crosses a line. They might get a couple wins in the hickier parts of the country, but that just makes them more visible and further makes the rest of the country realize how much more they need to be marginalized.
 
2012-08-23 09:55:40 AM
I realized yesterday that Akin, based on his ideas of "legitimate rape" doesn't consider sex with minors to be rape.

Someone needs to ask the children and teens around him if he's been sticking it to them.
 
2012-08-23 10:00:47 AM

Citrate1007: Philip Francis Queeg: Hollie Maea: Diogenes: But is he required to fund this dickbag's campaign? It's one thing to actively interfere in a campaign. It's quite another to simply refuse to support it.

He's not required to. But if he said publicly "My superpac will not fund this election unless Akin drops out" I think that would be majorly illegal.

I don't see how that would be illegal in any way.

Rove isn't running for office, he can point his SuperPac in any direction he wants.


Exactly. Not to be cliche, but don't hate the playa - hate the game.

Another interesting wrinkle in the ways of modern campaign financing.
 
2012-08-23 10:02:12 AM

wildcardjack: I realized yesterday that Akin, based on his ideas of "legitimate rape" doesn't consider sex with minors to be rape.

Someone needs to ask the children and teens around him if he's been sticking it to them.


But minors can't get pregnant! If a "minor" gets pregnant, she was secretly 18 and just lying about her age. Duh.
 
2012-08-23 10:05:39 AM

shastacola: Millennium: shastacola: Millennium: But I doubt that even they actually want him to run.

Why would democrats not want this guy to run?

There's still a chance, however infinitesimal, that he might win.

There would be a much better chance of another republican winning. Some republican is going to run regardless,might as well be the one with the least chance of winning.


That only matters if you're playing a blind partisan game. At this stage, there's only one way another Republican would stand a better chance of victory: being demonstrably not an Akin-class psycho. Such a victory, even if it doesn't put a Democrat into power, would still be far preferable to an Akin win: in exchange for a slightly greater risk of a suboptimal outcome, it completely eliminates the worst-case scenario. If you're not putting party over country, you take that bet.
 
2012-08-23 10:07:51 AM

Millennium: At this stage, there's only one way another Republican would stand a better chance of victory: being demonstrably not an Akin-class psycho.


wrong.jpg

The solution to every problem the GOP faces is to move farther right. What Missouri really needs is someone who will stand up and say that rape simply can't happen because we cannot claim to know God's plan.
 
2012-08-23 10:08:03 AM
While the Dems believe that Akin's presence on the ticket improve Claire's chances of winning - I would prefer Akin drop out and allow Steelman in. Sure, Steelman stands a better chance of winning, but I would rather have a a good chance of Steelman winning than ANY chance of Akin winning. That being said, I am still voting for Claire. I don't know why people on the Left wouldn't vote for her. The only bad things she has done come from the Romney manual of how to run your vast fortune. Voting GOP in Missouri would be like jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire.
 
2012-08-23 10:10:42 AM

Millennium: if you're playing a blind partisan game


It's an election,which by it's very definition is partisan. That's the point, one party hopes for the weakest candidate from the other party.
 
2012-08-23 10:14:01 AM

PickledBoodah: 2. The Democrats want him to drop out of the election.

Just thought I'd point this out again...


Yeah...came here to say this. Democrats have been giving him encouraging words to hang in there, I'm sure.
 
2012-08-23 10:40:34 AM
Subby appears even less intelligent than the average Subby.

Impressive
 
2012-08-23 10:44:55 AM
Wow, trying to blame their fark ups on the evil "liberal strawman" must be instinctive to the political right. Sorry Republicans, you have to own up to this one.
 
2012-08-23 10:56:32 AM
I'm getting about sick of hearing people say he "said something stupid". He did not say something stupid. He believes something stupid, has sponsored stupid bills based on his stupid belief, and is running for office so that he might have the opportunity to continue to impose his stupidity upon the American populace.

Get the difference?
 
2012-08-23 11:12:27 AM

xander450: I'm getting about sick of hearing people say he "said something stupid". He did not say something stupid. He believes something stupid, has sponsored stupid bills based on his stupid belief, and is running for office so that he might have the opportunity to continue to impose his stupidity upon the American populace.

Get the difference?


So what you're saying is, he said something stupid?
 
2012-08-23 11:14:10 AM
Um... the Democrats don't want him to drop out. They want him to stay in and lose...
 
2012-08-23 11:40:46 AM
2. The Democrats want him to drop out of the election.

HA HA HA no.
 
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