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(Talking Points Memo)   New Hampshire Sheriff candidate: Vote for me, and I'll use "our special constitutional powers" to kill doctors who perform abortions   (tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 78
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2012-08-22 08:24:33 PM  
12 votes:

Vodka Zombie: Holy shiat. This sick bastard just said he'd commit premeditated, 1st degree murder of a physician for performing a legal medical procedure and committing NO CRIME.

What the fark is wrong with this country?

Seriously, America. What the fark is wrong with you?


The root cause seems to be Christianity.
2012-08-22 08:20:13 PM  
11 votes:
Holy shiat. This sick bastard just said he'd commit premeditated, 1st degree murder of a physician for performing a legal medical procedure and committing NO CRIME.

What the fark is wrong with this country?

Seriously, America. What the fark is wrong with you?
2012-08-22 09:08:05 PM  
6 votes:
if you kill somebody who is performing a legal and constitutionally protected act, i believe that's called murder.
2012-08-23 09:25:32 AM  
5 votes:
Being a citizen of the great state of New Hamster, I've been following this story closely. I live in a bordering county, but I know plenty of people who live in this nutter's jurisdiction and I'm happy to say that he's NOT popular. It's not just the poeple know - local news (network and NH Public Radio) is all over this guy, and people are responding overwhelmingly negatively to his comments.

He's also lived in the state less than a year - he moved here from PA about 10 months ago. He's part of something called the "Free State" movement - it's a Tea Party based organization that is working to relocate people like this guy to NH to "take over" government. They've chosen NH for it's relatively small size, low population, and historical libertarian tendencies. The Free Staters did get a majority in the house in 2010, but it's been a spectacular misfire - people who ran on the platform of getting the local economy back on track and greating jobs did nothing but try to repeal gay marriage (which failed), restrict access to abortions, and grandstand on other typical hot-button issues. I don't think it's going to work out well for them this year.

People always say that NH is back woods or kooky - and there are certainly people that are - but we mostly just want to live our lives with as little drama as possible. It's not so much a personal freedom thing, it's a "I don't give a shiat what you do as long as it's safe and isn't going to interfere with my own personal pursuit of happiness." That's a big part of why gay marriage isn't an issue here - we don't care. Two dudes marrying? Whatever. Life goes on. It's sort of a jaded and selfish way to live, but it totally works.

/Love my state
//Hate this bag of shiat
2012-08-22 08:17:17 PM  
5 votes:

Bontesla: Why do I feel like Republicans are planning for a civil war?


Well, they're openly saying they are, so there's that.
2012-08-22 08:12:42 PM  
5 votes:

Grand_Moff_Joseph: "Szabo said he believed sheriffs are given enormous authority under his interpretation of the Constitution. When pressed about what he would do if a prosecutor declined to charge a doctor he arrested, he said the answer was simple.

"If they choose not to do their duty and uphold the Constitution," Szabo said, "they can be brought up on charges before what's called a citizen's grand jury, which is something that's not that common in the United States. But again, it is something based in common law that's within the purview of the county sheriff."


So, what's a sovereign citizen doing trying to work for "the law"? I thought they hated those guys.


Standard Republican policy: prove government is bad by breaking it themselves.
2012-08-22 11:09:56 PM  
4 votes:

impaler: That's far from "would kill doctors who perform abortions." No reason to exaggerate on this issue.


Interviewer: Deadly force?
Idiot: Well, I would hope that it wouldn't come to that as with any situation where someone is in danger but again specifically talking about elective abortions and late term abortions that is an act that needs to be stopped.

That means it could come to that. He just hopes it won't. There is no rational way to read that other than yes, I would kill a doctor to stop an elective abortion if I had to. That is exactly what he is saying. Don't whitewash it. He really is saying that.
2012-08-22 09:25:45 PM  
4 votes:

GAT_00: And the Prosperity Gospel had to come from somewhere.


The Prosperity Gospel can be accurately described as Theological Objectivism.
2012-08-22 09:14:20 PM  
4 votes:

GAT_00: The root cause seems to be Christianity Evangelicalism and Prosperity Gospel.


Small, but important, edit. There are good Christians out there. See Obama.
2012-08-22 08:45:13 PM  
4 votes:
Republicans have become the classic example of those morons who resort to threats of violence simply because they are just too rock-sucking stupid to solve their problems like normal, adult human beings.

They're bullies. The only problem is that, since they are so outmatched in every aspect of their lives and lack the intellectual wherewithal to better their situations, everyone is laughing at them. And, what happens when people laugh at bullies?

They get angry.

Then they get really funny.

And dangerous.

But mostly really funny.
2012-08-22 08:16:07 PM  
4 votes:

Bontesla: Why do I feel like Republicans are planning for a civil war?


Because they have the NRA on their side, and think that Democrats don't own guns.
2012-08-22 08:14:10 PM  
4 votes:
Why do I feel like Republicans are planning for a civil war?
2012-08-22 11:55:20 PM  
3 votes:

abb3w: GAT_00: I'm not saying that Christianity as a whole, but the root of what these people are doing is out of Christianity. That's the core of all of these problems.

...no, I'm pretty sure Christianity is just another symptom of the common cause underlying cognitive defects. I think it's some basic confusion about the relationship of language and reality.


The GOP doesn't get elected on fiscal policy. They get elected because they spout lies loosely based on the Bible.
2012-08-22 09:22:25 PM  
3 votes:
talkingpointsmemo.com
I will protect the sanctity of life even if it means I have to execute every last motherfarking one of you!
2012-08-22 09:11:54 PM  
3 votes:

FlashHarry: if you kill somebody who is performing a legal and constitutionally protected act, i believe that's called murder.


I'm pretty too. Also, I think these doctors are heroes for what they do. Hopefully, 50 years from now people will be naming schools after them. Seriously.
2012-08-22 08:09:47 PM  
3 votes:
"Szabo said he believed sheriffs are given enormous authority under his interpretation of the Constitution. When pressed about what he would do if a prosecutor declined to charge a doctor he arrested, he said the answer was simple.

"If they choose not to do their duty and uphold the Constitution," Szabo said, "they can be brought up on charges before what's called a citizen's grand jury, which is something that's not that common in the United States. But again, it is something based in common law that's within the purview of the county sheriff."



So, what's a sovereign citizen doing trying to work for "the law"? I thought they hated those guys.
2012-08-23 12:21:30 PM  
2 votes:

NEDM: Anyone else see the blurb at the end of the article? The one where he said that he'd arrest DAs that refuse to prosecute doctors that perform abortions?

Why was this lunatic even allowed onto the farking ballot?


I think what he was actually saying is he'd call a "citizen's grand jury" to charge the doctor - nothing to do with the prosecutor.

Oh, and when you see "citizen's grand jury", this is what you should be thinking of:

www.pslweb.org
2012-08-23 07:01:37 AM  
2 votes:
I personally know at least 50 gun owning liberal weirdos that would consider a conservative uprising as a license to hunt rednecks and would kill with joyous abandon.
2012-08-23 04:48:50 AM  
2 votes:
The sad thing is that I'm sure he and his supporters consider themselves "pro-life". Even if it means killing people they don't agree with. :/

We have a sickness in this country, and it's called ultra right-wing conservatism.
2012-08-23 04:35:52 AM  
2 votes:

WhyteRaven74: impaler: The Saga of the Toilet Takers...

Hmm so he doesn't like the ATF, wonder how he'd react if someone set up a distillery in the county, I get the feeling he wouldn't exactly be ok with it. Just a hunch.


CSB time.

Grew up in a small county in Missouri on the border with arkansas. real shiatkicker kind of place, 600 people, 4 last names, and if your family hadn't squatte don the same bit of land for at least three generations, you were an outsider. Primary job occupations were cattle farming and collectiong welfare.

Naturally, everybody voted republican.

The sheriff was a notorious bully who applied the law differently against different people. for example, if you were related to one of the town fathers, you could literally drive down town square drunk off your ass with an open beer on your dashboard and get away with it. (note: this actually happened). Whereas, if you were a teenager, or a black guy who just happened to be driving through town (seriously: this city was so white people didn't even try to hide the fact they were Klansmen) would end up arrested for petty bullshiat or find their car subjected to a full stripdown on the side of the road because the deputy had "probable cause"

Everybody knew the sheriff was corrupt as fark, yet he got voted in at near 100% rates every single election, Mostly becaus nobody would ever run against him, and the one time I remember that someone did, he dropped out of the race, packed up his family, and left down overnight.

Oh, and one of his big things was that he was "Tough on drug dealers", which was true, the local clink always had a couple folks that'd been arrested for a joint or two in the car. Granted, the reason for this was because he didn't like the competition. Assgasket was selling drugs out f his privately owned and operated auto garage, and everybody knew it.


/CSB

tl;dr version: Crooked county sheriffs are not in any way shape or form uncommon, low profile, or generally in any risk of losing their position.
2012-08-23 04:34:50 AM  
2 votes:

pdkl95: Regardless of the root cause (religion? something more fundamental?), I'd hypothesize that education is probably the cure. Or at least a huge leap in a cure-like direction. Surprisingly, even while watching this insane race towards maximal derp, I have found the *internet* a surprising beacon of hope.


The problem with the internet is that you'll only find knowledge if you're looking for it. If you just want to reinforce the derp you have rattling around your head, it'll do that too.

And probably 90% of the time that's what people are after - not knowledge, but some clever-sounding factoids that reinforce the beliefs they already hold.
2012-08-23 03:06:38 AM  
2 votes:
I don't care how often they pretend to be different parties, the Tea Party and Republican Party are really the same animal. A rabid, vicious, and bloodthirsty animal.

They created it... they get to own it.
2012-08-23 02:57:47 AM  
2 votes:

Karac: [talkingpointsmemo.com image 652x360]
I will protect the sanctity of life even if it means I have to execute every last motherfarking one of you!


If it saves just one unborn fetus, killing 12 people in an abortion clinic rampage is well worth it.

/This is what Republicans actually believe. 
//Eric Rudolph, Paul Hill, Scott Roeder, Michael Griffin, John Salvi, et al...these men are heroes to Republicans.
2012-08-23 02:31:30 AM  
2 votes:
FTA: "In an interview on Wednesday with local television station WMUR, Szabo said he believed sheriffs were granted special powers under the Constitution."

Goddamn it, can we just have one day a year where we shut down everything and make every last person in this damn country read or listen or watch an interpretative dance of the constitution.

One day a year. That's not so much is it?
2012-08-23 01:11:45 AM  
2 votes:

cman: Your preference for either pro-life or pro-choice does not matter in this case. What he said was very wrong, and we should all be scared that one who may have power could do such a thing without punishment.

You better hope this guy does not get elected. He has a power hungry mean streak about him


Nailed it. Those that desire authority, should be denied it.
2012-08-22 09:54:34 PM  
2 votes:

impaler: Where did he say he would use lethal force?


RTFA.

In an interview on Wednesday with local television station WMUR, Szabo said he believed sheriffs were granted special powers under the Constitution. That means, he said, he would be empowered to arrest or even use deadly force against doctors for providing legal abortions for women.

English, muthufarker, do you speak it?
2012-08-22 09:31:13 PM  
2 votes:

GAT_00: djkutch: GAT_00: The root cause seems to be Christianity Evangelicalism and Prosperity Gospel.

Small, but important, edit. There are good Christians out there. See Obama.

I'm not saying that Christianity as a whole, but the root of what these people are doing is out of Christianity. That's the core of all of these problems. And the Prosperity Gospel had to come from somewhere.


It comes from hubris, which is not a Christian virtue.
2012-08-22 09:22:15 PM  
2 votes:

djkutch: GAT_00: The root cause seems to be Christianity Evangelicalism and Prosperity Gospel.

Small, but important, edit. There are good Christians out there. See Obama.


I'm not saying that Christianity as a whole, but the root of what these people are doing is out of Christianity. That's the core of all of these problems. And the Prosperity Gospel had to come from somewhere.
2012-08-22 08:32:10 PM  
2 votes:

ecmoRandomNumbers: Bontesla: Why do I feel like Republicans are planning for a civil war?

Because they have the NRA on their side, and think that Democrats don't own guns.


Or gay people.
2012-08-22 08:16:15 PM  
2 votes:

Bontesla: Why do I feel like Republicans are planning for a civil war?


Well, there is that crazy ass judge in TX who claims he'll personally stand in front of his podunk town to stop the pending UN invasion force.
2012-08-23 11:25:54 AM  
1 votes:

foo monkey: WTF is a citizen's grand jury? Sounds like a lynch mob.


Imagine a dozen people--all of whom believe if you spell your name in all caps and with random punctuation that you are exempt from federal taxes--sitting around indicting you for violating what they think the constitution is.
2012-08-23 09:33:09 AM  
1 votes:

mrshowrules: Welfare Peanut Butter: people who ran on the platform of getting the local economy back on track and greating jobs did nothing but try to repeal gay marriage (which failed), restrict access to abortions, and grandstand on other typical hot-button issues. I don't think it's going to work out well for them this year.

that is exactly what the tea baggers did at the National level.


Yeah, I know, but it bears repeating. Maybe it might penetrate the thick skulls of people who believe tea baggers actually care about fiscal responsibiltiy, or even have the slightest idea what the Constitution even says.

/lol, penetrate
2012-08-23 09:28:59 AM  
1 votes:

Welfare Peanut Butter: people who ran on the platform of getting the local economy back on track and greating jobs did nothing but try to repeal gay marriage (which failed), restrict access to abortions, and grandstand on other typical hot-button issues. I don't think it's going to work out well for them this year.


that is exactly what the tea baggers did at the National level.
2012-08-23 08:44:00 AM  
1 votes:
"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. "
2012-08-23 08:26:35 AM  
1 votes:

lawboy87: Yep, the Founding Fathers were so enamored of granting counties and county sheriff's so much power via the Constitution that they forgot to mention either in the Constitution due to their zealous, head long, rush to do so.

Just another one of these "sovereign citizen" types who insist that they just "want to get back to Constitutional principles" when they claim the Constitution is clear in regards to matters which appear nowhere in the Constitution. They then always fall back on claims that "the common law" applies, yet can never seem to come up with any evidence that there are even "common law" provisions that apply. They may as well put their eggs in the "Lizard "Shape-Shifter" People "hidden" government which really rules the world for all the sense they make.


Yeah but fringes on flags, dude. Fringes on flags.
2012-08-23 08:20:42 AM  
1 votes:
Yep, the Founding Fathers were so enamored of granting counties and county sheriff's so much power via the Constitution that they forgot to mention either in the Constitution due to their zealous, head long, rush to do so.

Just another one of these "sovereign citizen" types who insist that they just "want to get back to Constitutional principles" when they claim the Constitution is clear in regards to matters which appear nowhere in the Constitution. They then always fall back on claims that "the common law" applies, yet can never seem to come up with any evidence that there are even "common law" provisions that apply. They may as well put their eggs in the "Lizard "Shape-Shifter" People "hidden" government which really rules the world for all the sense they make.
2012-08-23 07:58:58 AM  
1 votes:

Frederick: Is it time to divide up the country yet?


Yeah.
The fascist motherfarkers throwing a shiatfit over a medical procedure because they think women should be second-class citizens can have their own country six feet under US soil.
2012-08-23 07:57:16 AM  
1 votes:
That flapping sound, GOP? The one that's been getting louder for years? The sound you first admired, then ignored, then claimed was libby lib, then found yourself denouncing, and is now so loud that you just want to crawl under the bed and never come out?

That flapping sound? They're coming home to roost, GOP. You sowed the derp. Reap the whirlwind. Go greet your batshiat sovereign citizen chickens. They would like a word.
2012-08-23 07:47:26 AM  
1 votes:
Vodka Zombie:
But mostly really funny.

This is because you're not a low-income woman in a conservative area where the police, clergy, doctors, pharmacists and joe blow on the street are all 100% dedicated to maintaining your status as an involuntary breeder.
2012-08-23 07:41:53 AM  
1 votes:
"Vote for me for Sheriff... I don't have the first clue how law enforcement works and I think as Sheriff I have the power to execute those I disagree with." *Shoots guns into the air while jumping up and down*

New Hampshire: New England's Alabama.
2012-08-23 07:17:01 AM  
1 votes:

Ambivalence: Wow. What voter could resist such a compelling argument. Because it's not burglars and rapists that are a threat to law and order, it's doctors performing abortions.


There are no rapists.
2012-08-23 07:12:15 AM  
1 votes:
Oh for fark's sake...

It's like these retards are trying to out do each other.

"Women can't get pregnant from 'legitimate' rape!"

"Oh yeah? Well, I've never heard of any heterosexuals getting H.I.V."

"Pfffft. Everyone knows AIDS came form some gay pilot screwing a monkey in Africa!"

"I got you all beat... I'm going to shoot every abortion doctor when I'm Sheriff of Jerkwater, NH!"


It would be hilarious if there weren't so many other retards out there who think like this and will vote for these ignorant assholes.
2012-08-23 07:11:30 AM  
1 votes:
Yeah, I'm going to have to put this down to "Crazy assed Sovereign Citizen" then to anything to do with the Republican party. Both sides are bad, though, so vote for the All Day Breakfast Party.
2012-08-23 05:59:14 AM  
1 votes:
Remember folks, only the South has idiots. I'll just file this in my "wingnuts are all across the country" file the next time one of you dicks wants to make the South seem like the sole repository of America's moran problem.
2012-08-23 05:26:56 AM  
1 votes:

Gunther: If you just want to reinforce the derp you have rattling around your head, it'll do that too.


Actually, I should correct myself - there is a way to avoid exposure to any knowledge, so you can maintain the echo-chamber. It's what Bruce Sterling's (very underrated, infrequently read) book Schismatrix was about: you have to fork the human species, so you can maintain your carefully-constructed niche.

I strongly recommend the book - the religious fundies make a lot more sense, when viewed in terms of the evolution and speciation of H. sapiens. Just don't get discouraged by the first 1/3 of it - it may seem boring, but he's just setting up the exponential curve the plot takes off into for the 2nd half of the book.

/life moves in clades
2012-08-23 04:28:52 AM  
1 votes:
WTF, USA? We're only a week or two away from a never before achieved scientific interplanetary accomplishment, only to see some of your lawmakers fall over themselves to try redefine rape in a 'good rape' and 'bad rape'. The contrast is baffling. And just when those kooks get their deserved backlash, the lesser clowns seem to feel the need to come out of the woodwork, consisting of a judge claiming to join second amendment resolutions should President Obama be reelected and someone flat out threatening murdering doctors if they perform an abortion.

This kook in particular sounds like a Sherrif Joe wannabe, inventing his own realm of politics and abusing his power throughout the whole thing.
2012-08-23 04:25:36 AM  
1 votes:

alienated: from this persons webshiate :

Having attained a high level of expertise in Financial Management and Health Care Administration, most of Frank's skills were developed while working in the business sector. He owned and operated a successful limousine service; which he started in 1987 and sold in 2000.

Frank's qualifications are common sense, practical, real life experiences. His university degree was just the beginning. He knows the peculiarities and technicalities of the court room and other legal procedures. He knows how to read the law and interpret it. He is not, however, an attorney.

A Sheriff is elected by the people. He works for the people. He is the ONLY elected law enforcement officer of the county. As such, he is the Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the county and he works for and is accountable to "We The People". He should not take orders from any one - except "the People" to whom he is accountable.

Within the boundary of his county, the Sheriff has more power than the President of the United States. The following example illustrates the point of how much power a County Sheriff possesses.

sigh.


I grew up on the NH border and these sentiments aren't really anything new up that way. Maine is even worse. These are people who think if they take care of themselves, no one--no one--should be able to tell them what to do. It only makes sense that the Tea Party small-government extremism would take hold in those places--they were already pretty libertarian to begin with.

I can't tell you how many times I heard kids say they wanted to be policemen when they grew up because then they couldn't be arrested.
2012-08-23 04:19:36 AM  
1 votes:
I still can't quite get over the notion of people voting for Sheriffs (or Judges for that matter) in the first place.

The fact that this guy apparently has no background in law enforcement and only a very sketchy idear of what constitutes "legal" makes my wee head spin round.

The fact that he responded to a direct question on the use of deadly force in the affirmative when talking about Doctors performing abortions made steam come out my ears.

Reading about his guy isn't good for my health. Someone please assure me this dipshiat isn't gonna win. 

/Lie if you have to. I need this. 
//I keed. Sorta.
2012-08-23 04:14:52 AM  
1 votes:

abb3w: GAT_00: I'm not saying that Christianity as a whole, but the root of what these people are doing is out of Christianity. That's the core of all of these problems.

...no, I'm pretty sure Christianity is just another symptom of the common cause underlying cognitive defects. I think it's some basic confusion about the relationship of language and reality.


Regardless of the root cause (religion? something more fundamental?), I'd hypothesize that education is probably the cure. Or at least a huge leap in a cure-like direction. Surprisingly, even while watching this insane race towards maximal derp, I have found the *internet* a surprising beacon of hope.

In the early 90s I was part of various efforts to, among other things, get high-schools to buy into this whole now "internet" thing, and one of the things that was always in the pitch was a comparison to Gutenberg. "It's the new communication medium, that will bring sweeping change just like the printing press did!" Always assumed that while there was a kernel of truth there, it was still heavy with hyperbole.

In the last few years, though, there seems to be more and more examples of how the internet has turned things upside down. So maybe things get a bit better in the long-run, because the internet simply saturates people with knowledge, and the whole "education by osmosis" effect actually happens, in some minimal way?

/it'll take a generation before full effect, though, as the status-quo is sure fighting hard to stay relevant
//in the meantime, though, we get the full effects of
i.imgur.com
2012-08-23 04:09:08 AM  
1 votes:

impaler: The Saga of the Toilet Takers...


Hmm so he doesn't like the ATF, wonder how he'd react if someone set up a distillery in the county, I get the feeling he wouldn't exactly be ok with it. Just a hunch.
2012-08-23 03:53:54 AM  
1 votes:

alienated: http://www.szaboforsheriff.com/

Frank believes that the time for petitions and "Please, please, please, Mr/Ms Congresscritter and Mr/Ms Senator would you stop spending my great-grandchildrens' inheritances?" is over. Arm yourself with knowledge...

The Saga of the Toilet Takers...

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Toilet Takers (AT&TT) comes to your county and declares that it is now illegal to own a toilet. "They" will be removing all toilets from the county this week! The people say, "We don't want you to take our toilets. We like our toilets." The AT&TT says, "Too bad! We are here to take them!"


OMFG, I'm in tears. If The Onion wrote that, it wouldn't even be funny, because it's so damn over the top, it isn't even believable enough to trigger the humor tickle one gets from satire.
2012-08-23 03:45:54 AM  
1 votes:

fusillade762: One thing I'll say for this guy: at least he's consistent. If you truly believe that abortion is murder, that is.


When he attends funerals for fertilized eggs that fail to implant in the womb, then I'll believe he is consistent in his view that human life begins at conception and is entitled to the full protection of the law.

That goes for every right to lifer.
2012-08-23 03:45:52 AM  
1 votes:

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: nterpretative dance


Interpretive dance?!? 

2.bp.blogspot.com
2012-08-23 03:29:22 AM  
1 votes:
i560.photobucket.com
2012-08-23 03:23:40 AM  
1 votes:

alienated: from this persons webshiate :

Having attained a high level of expertise in Financial Management and Health Care Administration, most of Frank's skills were developed while working in the business sector. He owned and operated a successful limousine service; which he started in 1987 and sold in 2000.

Frank's qualifications are common sense, practical, real life experiences. His university degree was just the beginning. He knows the peculiarities and technicalities of the court room and other legal procedures. He knows how to read the law and interpret it. He is not, however, an attorney.

A Sheriff is elected by the people. He works for the people. He is the ONLY elected law enforcement officer of the county. As such, he is the Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the county and he works for and is accountable to "We The People". He should not take orders from any one - except "the People" to whom he is accountable.

Within the boundary of his county, the Sheriff has more power than the President of the United States. The following example illustrates the point of how much power a County Sheriff possesses.

sigh.


That alone should take him off the ballot.
2012-08-23 02:57:07 AM  
1 votes:
passionweiss.com

I have powers. Constitutional powers!
2012-08-23 02:53:36 AM  
1 votes:

ladyfortuna: Lenny_da_Hog: pippi longstocking: Americans are so desensitized to violence that they think they'll respawn upon death, or maybe it's all that religion eternal life lunacy like the Muslims.

/starts scripting GTA Abortion City game....

Don't do it, Congress will get together and finally ban violent games...


Not if you go around killing abortion doctors. Hell, you might even get a grant.
2012-08-23 02:45:10 AM  
1 votes:

pippi longstocking: Americans are so desensitized to violence that they think they'll respawn upon death, or maybe it's all that religion eternal life lunacy like the Muslims.


/starts scripting GTA Abortion City game....
2012-08-23 02:43:32 AM  
1 votes:
Americans are so desensitized to violence that they think they'll respawn upon death, or maybe it's all that religion eternal life lunacy like the Muslims.
2012-08-23 02:43:29 AM  
1 votes:
He wouldn't really do it.

He's just saying that to further dehumanize his political enemies in the hopes that one of his batshiat comrades will do it.
2012-08-23 12:59:00 AM  
1 votes:

cman: You better hope this guy does not get elected. He has a power hungry mean streak about him


Hell, maybe I'll run for Sheriff with theory that Sheriffs have this enormous power. Then I'll go kick his ass and arrest him. How about that?
2012-08-23 12:27:12 AM  
1 votes:
Your preference for either pro-life or pro-choice does not matter in this case. What he said was very wrong, and we should all be scared that one who may have power could do such a thing without punishment.

You better hope this guy does not get elected. He has a power hungry mean streak about him
2012-08-23 12:05:12 AM  
1 votes:
One thing I'll say for this guy: at least he's consistent. If you truly believe that abortion is murder, that is.
2012-08-22 11:00:28 PM  
1 votes:
You know, I always kind of feel guilty painting with a broad brush. I'm from a conservative family and I have friends of the Tea Party variety who are by and large good decent people. But god damn are some of these people warped in the head.
2012-08-22 10:47:50 PM  
1 votes:

impaler: Ambivalence: That means, he said, he would be empowered to arrest or even use deadly force against doctors for providing legal abortions for women.

English, muthufarker, do you speak it?

Yes. I also know how quotations work.


Do you know how links work? Like the one from the 2nd paragraph of the article. It's got a video of him speaking:

starting around 0:30
Interviewer: You would do whatever it took to stop that from happening.
Idiot: Absolutely
Interviewer: Deadly force?
Idiot: Well, I would hope that it wouldn't come to that as with any situation where someone is in danger but again specifically talking about elective abortions and late term abortions that is an act that needs to be stopped.
2012-08-22 10:42:07 PM  
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GAT_00: I'm not saying that Christianity as a whole, but the root of what these people are doing is out of Christianity. That's the core of all of these problems.


...no, I'm pretty sure Christianity is just another symptom of the common cause underlying cognitive defects. I think it's some basic confusion about the relationship of language and reality.
2012-08-22 10:36:00 PM  
1 votes:
first the activist judge and now this guy.

fark it all. I wish I had the means to just up and move to Canada. this country is doomed
2012-08-22 10:24:20 PM  
1 votes:

Frederick: Is it time to divide up the country yet?


Yes

/and forced relocations
2012-08-22 10:03:24 PM  
1 votes:

impaler: Where did he say he would use lethal force?


The original interview that is linked in the TFA:

But Szabo may have inflamed the issue further when asked if he would use deadly force to prevent an abortion.

"I would respond specifically by saying that if someone is under threat, a full-grown human being, if they're under threat, what should the sheriff do? Everything in their power to prevent them from being harmed," he said.


I wish it had a verbatim quote of the actual question asked, but it seems pretty clear he would definitely not rule it out.
2012-08-22 09:35:48 PM  
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BarkingUnicorn: GAT_00: djkutch: GAT_00: The root cause seems to be Christianity Evangelicalism and Prosperity Gospel.

Small, but important, edit. There are good Christians out there. See Obama.

I'm not saying that Christianity as a whole, but the root of what these people are doing is out of Christianity. That's the core of all of these problems. And the Prosperity Gospel had to come from somewhere.

It comes from hubris, which is not a Christian virtue.


It pre-dates Christian virtue. Keeping women under you thumb goes way back.
2012-08-22 09:29:34 PM  
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GAT_00: And the Prosperity Gospel had to come from somewhere.


It did. It was blended with objectivism. It was the only way to absorb Ayn Rand's atheism.

Liberation theology doesn't see eye to eye.
2012-08-22 09:28:21 PM  
1 votes:
"Szabo said he doesn't have any background in law enforcement, but he said his business background gives him the experience to run for the position of sheriff."

Gee, who else is running on the strength of his business background?

"Szabo maintains that the county sheriff is a position that doesn't answer to any other public official."

So does Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

"Republican House Speaker Bill O'Brien called on Szabo to quit the race in light of his statements."

It does my heart good to see Republican leaders having to smack down their craziest candidates every other day.
2012-08-22 09:19:49 PM  
1 votes:
"I had a cousin who, she is a registered nurse and the stories she told me about people coming in there and having babies just so they could get more on their food stamps and more on their welfare. It's like no, I don't want to take care of those people."

You just can't compete with anecdotal evidence. She had a cousin! I hope the poor soul is in Heaven.
2012-08-22 08:57:39 PM  
1 votes:

ecmoRandomNumbers: Bontesla: Why do I feel like Republicans are planning for a civil war?

Because they have the NRA on their side, and think that Democrats don't own guns.



most of the people I know with huge caches of guns are Republicans. Most of the people I know who I'd trust to know which end of gun to point at the bad guys in a crisis? almost to a person, democrats (including the Vietnam vets and Navy SEALs I know personally)
2012-08-22 08:49:32 PM  
1 votes:
I will forward this off to my sister and her lawyer husband (who has offices in Manchester and Boston) to unleash some whoopass on this guy.

/She was a big fundraiser for the dems in her day when she lived in Concord
//had both Kerry and Gore at her house for dinner
2012-08-22 08:46:31 PM  
1 votes:

ecmoRandomNumbers: don't own guns.


Not a single one. Nope. None here. Won't even allow the cats to have wrist rockets.
2012-08-22 08:32:42 PM  
1 votes:

ecmoRandomNumbers: Bontesla: Why do I feel like Republicans are planning for a civil war?

Because they have the NRA on their side, and think that Democrats don't own guns.


i47.tinypic.com

"Who needs guns?"

i49.tinypic.com
2012-08-22 08:27:09 PM  
1 votes:
Well, that there is a nutbar and a half.
 
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