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2012-08-22 11:41:38 PM
You can also be arrested for dangerous driving.

Being a danger to the public isn't limited to OVERT aggressive action.
 
2012-08-22 11:55:45 PM
Can I be arrested for licking doorknobs and phones in the office when I have a cold?
 
2012-08-23 12:02:32 AM
My tuberculosis medicine, not so much. But not completing the entire regime has led to stronger, more resistant, strains.
 
2012-08-23 12:04:07 AM
sure, because we really could use our own strain of TDR TB!!
we should totally let her just roam around. there is NO WAY that TB could ever make a comeback
 
2012-08-23 12:07:27 AM
namatad: sure, because we really could use our own strain of TDR TB!!
we should totally let her just roam around. there is NO WAY that TB could ever make a comeback


Yeah, what next? Polio?
 
2012-08-23 12:22:25 AM
You can also be arrested for failure to inform a sexual partner about your HIV positive status.
 
2012-08-23 12:27:34 AM
cman: You can also be arrested for failure to inform a sexual partner about your HIV positive status.

Yeah, well, there's the balance between individual liberty and public safety.
 
2012-08-23 12:28:11 AM
simplicimus: My tuberculosis medicine, not so much. But not completing the entire regime has led to stronger, more resistant, strains.

I hope you mean "regimen."

Also, I'm fine with this. Now, they should go after anti-vaxxer morons.
 
2012-08-23 12:28:19 AM
i.imgur.com
I'm your huckleberry.
 
2012-08-23 12:32:15 AM
MadAzza: simplicimus: My tuberculosis medicine, not so much. But not completing the entire regime has led to stronger, more resistant, strains.

I hope you mean "regimen."

Also, I'm fine with this. Now, they should go after anti-vaxxer morons.


Yeah, auto-correct has made me lazy. And the anti-vaccine people pose a clear danger to children and adults.
 
2012-08-23 01:03:53 AM
My question: Why wouldn't you? Are you suicidal? I can't think of a good reason NOT to take Tuberculosis medication.
 
2012-08-23 01:16:06 AM
Sim Tree: My question: Why wouldn't you? Are you suicidal? I can't think of a good reason NOT to take Tuberculosis medication.

Because it's six months, and as soon as feel better, you stop. Making more resistant strains.
 
2012-08-23 01:16:08 AM
If she just tested positive by way of a skin test that doesn't mean she would be able to spread it. Now if it's in her lungs and she's coughing, that's another matter.
 
2012-08-23 01:17:57 AM
cman: You can also be arrested for failure to inform a sexual partner about your HIV positive status.

i.imgur.com

Well, look, you know, I've not told you I've got genital herpes, because it's not inflamed at the moment..
 
2012-08-23 01:18:58 AM
Isn't this a repeat from 1890?
 
2012-08-23 01:21:38 AM
borg: Isn't this a repeat from 1890?

Nope. Back in the day we had clinics and mandatory commitment.
 
2012-08-23 01:37:46 AM
Well people, you can tell the survivers where you were when you first heard tell of Subject Zero.
 
2012-08-23 01:48:28 AM
Sim Tree: My question: Why wouldn't you? Are you suicidal? I can't think of a good reason NOT to take Tuberculosis medication.

Liberty. That's why.

O beautiful, for spacious skies,
For amber waves of grain,
For purple mountain majesties
Above the fruited plain!


Everyone!
 
2012-08-23 02:00:42 AM
impaler: Sim Tree: My question: Why wouldn't you? Are you suicidal? I can't think of a good reason NOT to take Tuberculosis medication.

Liberty. That's why.

O beautiful, for spacious skies,
For amber waves of grain,
For purple mountain majesties
Above the fruited plain!

Everyone!


Nope, I'm going with Woody
This land was made for you and me.
 
2012-08-23 02:28:57 AM
simplicimus: MadAzza: simplicimus: My tuberculosis medicine, not so much. But not completing the entire regime has led to stronger, more resistant, strains.

I hope you mean "regimen."

Also, I'm fine with this. Now, they should go after anti-vaxxer morons.

Yeah, auto-correct has made me lazy.


Yeah, me, too. I figured that's what it was. I just wish I could blame *all* my mistakes on my iPhone. :-)
 
2012-08-23 02:44:23 AM
WhyteRaven74: If she just tested positive by way of a skin test that doesn't mean she would be able to spread it. Now if it's in her lungs and she's coughing, that's another matter.

" A person with fully susceptible TB may develop secondary (acquired) resistance during therapy because of inadequate treatment, not taking the prescribed regimen appropriately (lack of compliance), or using low-quality medication."

Doesnt matter. She is a walking time-bomb. Sooner or later the symptoms will reappear and she will spread it.
She is the worst kind of nightmare for this crap. She has proven that she can no longer be trusted to do the right thing. So they will need to lock her up for 2 years while they are dosing her. I guess, in theory, they can put her on parole and force her to come to the clinic/hospital everyday for her meds and if she misses one day, lock her up ....

farking nightmare.
cant wait until this shiat picks up and we get the FREEDOM to be stupid vs SHOOT THEM they are gonna kill us all

sigh
 
2012-08-23 02:45:33 AM
Same way people with AIDS who don't tell their partners AND have unprotected sex can be charged and convicted for their behavior. You're spreading your germs around, potentially having an adverse effect, aka killing, on the people you have contact with. The common cold and something like the flu are of a different level of effect. It's rare for someone to die from the common cold/flu unless the person already has a compromised immune system.

I have no problem if this woman ended up in jail for the full term of her TB treatment since she's shown no inclination of seeing it through on her own. TB can spread fairly easily in close contact/enclosed areas. That's not even taking into consideration the possibility of a new resistant strain developing from her stupidity.
 
2012-08-23 03:06:41 AM
namatad: Doesnt matter. She is a walking time-bomb. Sooner or later the symptoms will reappear and she will spread it.

The only difference between this and biological terrorism is intent.

Just because you're too stupid to know what you're doing will result in the spread of resistant strains of deadly diseases, doesn't mean the effects are any way distinguishable.

I just had an idea. Why not use the derp to fight derp?

Word on the street is that Jehadists are deliberately infecting themselves with TB, only to get partial treatment in order to develop resistant strains that they will transmit it innocent "infidels"! These cowards care not if they die, because they believe they will get 72 virgins when they die! 9/11!!!
 
2012-08-23 04:01:29 AM
Good.
 
2012-08-23 04:04:07 AM
impaler: Word on the street is that Jehadists are deliberately infecting themselves with TB, only to get partial treatment in order to develop resistant strains that they will transmit it innocent "infidels"! These cowards care not if they die, because they believe they will get 72 virgins when they die! 9/11!!!

so when do we start shooting people who wont cover their mouths when they cough!@!
and yah, it wouldnt be that hard for some bio terrorists to spread.
get infected in iran
travel round about and fly direct from say paris to nyc before they start coughing
from nyc, trains to major cities
walk around coughing on the homeless
go to mosques and cough on the cabbies
by the time they die, so many people will be sick ...

wait, did I just write clancey's next novel outline
FML
 
2012-08-23 04:06:41 AM
SpaceyCat: I have no problem if this woman ended up in jail for the full term of her TB treatment since she's shown no inclination of seeing it through on her own. TB can spread fairly easily in close contact/enclosed areas. That's not even taking into consideration the possibility of a new resistant strain developing from her stupidity.

so prison would run the risk of infecting everyone in prison ...
to be honest, kill her and burn her corpse as soon as possible
it is the only way to be sure

and that guy who traveled to europe even though he was told not to travel
 
2012-08-23 04:09:24 AM
Years ago, quarantine laws were strict! By law, if you had any of the several deadly infectious diseases, you would be quarantined to your home. The only people allowed to see you would be Dr.s and nurses and approved delivery men for supplies. Usually, they were cops. Quarantine signs would be posted in your yard and on your door. Violation of the edict by anyone could result in arrest, hospital quarantine and possibly fines or jail.

Smallpox, Typhoid Fever, Scarlet Fever, Diphtheria, Polio and even Measles were on the list. So was Tuberculosis.

Then, around the 80's, people sued for their right to expose everyone to any nasty disease they had and you rarely even heard of quarantine anymore.

Working in a hospital back in the late 60's and 70's, I had my TB shots, but I was exposed to active TB cases a couple of times and for years, each time I had a test, it showed positive and I had to be specially re-tested. The test reacted to antibodies in my blood.

We quarantined patients in special isolation rooms if they had things like the type of pneumonia that spread through the air. We gowned up in an anti-chamber, complete with masks, gloves, disposable robes and entered the room through a second door. Back then, interestingly enough, the room had forced air flow separate from the main hospital a/c units. Leaving, our gowns, masks, gloves and any trash went into bright red bags. We scrubbed up with a special, high powered antibacterial foaming soap. Then the red bags went into a second red bag outside the door, was sealed and later incinerated in the hospital incinerator.

TB patients went in that secured room also.

We can wipe out TB, but other nations don't vaccinate for it and, inevitably, someone pops up from over seas or some of our own stupidly refuse to get the immunizations and the disease remains -- and is mutating.

TB is a NASTY disease.
 
2012-08-23 04:53:35 AM
upload.wikimedia.org

O Hai, Guiz, Wot's going *cough cough* on in this *wheeze* thread?


/Obligatory and hot like Scarlet Fever.
 
2012-08-23 05:12:33 AM
Rik01: Years ago, quarantine laws were strict! By law, if you had any of the several deadly infectious diseases, you would be quarantined to your home. The only people allowed to see you would be Dr.s and nurses and approved delivery men for supplies. Usually, they were cops. Quarantine signs would be posted in your yard and on your door. Violation of the edict by anyone could result in arrest, hospital quarantine and possibly fines or jail.

Smallpox, Typhoid Fever, Scarlet Fever, Diphtheria, Polio and even Measles were on the list. So was Tuberculosis.

Then, around the 80's, people sued for their right to expose everyone to any nasty disease they had and you rarely even heard of quarantine anymore.

Working in a hospital back in the late 60's and 70's, I had my TB shots, but I was exposed to active TB cases a couple of times and for years, each time I had a test, it showed positive and I had to be specially re-tested. The test reacted to antibodies in my blood.

We quarantined patients in special isolation rooms if they had things like the type of pneumonia that spread through the air. We gowned up in an anti-chamber, complete with masks, gloves, disposable robes and entered the room through a second door. Back then, interestingly enough, the room had forced air flow separate from the main hospital a/c units. Leaving, our gowns, masks, gloves and any trash went into bright red bags. We scrubbed up with a special, high powered antibacterial foaming soap. Then the red bags went into a second red bag outside the door, was sealed and later incinerated in the hospital incinerator.

TB patients went in that secured room also.

We can wipe out TB, but other nations don't vaccinate for it and, inevitably, someone pops up from over seas or some of our own stupidly refuse to get the immunizations and the disease remains -- and is mutating.

TB is a NASTY disease.


All I really know about TB is the test can be really farking itchy
 
2012-08-23 05:14:10 AM
cman: Rik01: Years ago, quarantine laws were strict! By law, if you had any of the several deadly infectious diseases, you would be quarantined to your home. The only people allowed to see you would be Dr.s and nurses and approved delivery men for supplies. Usually, they were cops. Quarantine signs would be posted in your yard and on your door. Violation of the edict by anyone could result in arrest, hospital quarantine and possibly fines or jail.

Smallpox, Typhoid Fever, Scarlet Fever, Diphtheria, Polio and even Measles were on the list. So was Tuberculosis.

Then, around the 80's, people sued for their right to expose everyone to any nasty disease they had and you rarely even heard of quarantine anymore.

Working in a hospital back in the late 60's and 70's, I had my TB shots, but I was exposed to active TB cases a couple of times and for years, each time I had a test, it showed positive and I had to be specially re-tested. The test reacted to antibodies in my blood.

We quarantined patients in special isolation rooms if they had things like the type of pneumonia that spread through the air. We gowned up in an anti-chamber, complete with masks, gloves, disposable robes and entered the room through a second door. Back then, interestingly enough, the room had forced air flow separate from the main hospital a/c units. Leaving, our gowns, masks, gloves and any trash went into bright red bags. We scrubbed up with a special, high powered antibacterial foaming soap. Then the red bags went into a second red bag outside the door, was sealed and later incinerated in the hospital incinerator.

TB patients went in that secured room also.

We can wipe out TB, but other nations don't vaccinate for it and, inevitably, someone pops up from over seas or some of our own stupidly refuse to get the immunizations and the disease remains -- and is mutating.

TB is a NASTY disease.

All I really know about TB is the test can be really farking itchy


Oh, and thanks to wikipedia, I know now that it looks just like Apple sauce
 
2012-08-23 06:49:33 AM
simplicimus: impaler: Sim Tree: My question: Why wouldn't you? Are you suicidal? I can't think of a good reason NOT to take Tuberculosis medication.

Liberty. That's why.

O beautiful, for spacious skies,
For amber waves of grain,
For purple mountain majesties
Above the fruited plain!

Everyone!

Nope, I'm going with Woody
This land was made for you and me.


I like the private property version:

This land is my land
It's not your land
I've got a shotgun
You haven't got one
This land
Was made for me not you!
 
2012-08-23 06:49:48 AM
namatad: wait, did I just write clancey's next novel outline

That story has already been done. More than once.
 
2012-08-23 06:50:49 AM
Sim Tree: My question: Why wouldn't you? Are you suicidal? I can't think of a good reason NOT to take Tuberculosis medication.

Could be crazy and/or homeless.
 
2012-08-23 06:51:24 AM
As long as they can't force you to pay.
 
2012-08-23 06:53:18 AM
That's ok with me, because if she exposes me to some drug resistant strain of TB, I'm going to exact my own form of justice.
/Take your meds
//and don't endanger others
 
2012-08-23 06:54:11 AM
namatad: and that guy who traveled to europe even though he was told not to travel

Well, he kept asking the doctors "Is my family in any danger? Should I stay away from them?" and they kept telling him his family was in no danger. So he went ahead and traveled. The whole thing could have been avoided if the doctors had valued the patient's family's safety as much as they valued everyone else's.
 
2012-08-23 06:58:38 AM
namatad: impaler: Word on the street is that Jehadists are deliberately infecting themselves with TB, only to get partial treatment in order to develop resistant strains that they will transmit it innocent "infidels"! These cowards care not if they die, because they believe they will get 72 virgins when they die! 9/11!!!

so when do we start shooting people who wont cover their mouths when they cough!@!
and yah, it wouldnt be that hard for some bio terrorists to spread.
get infected in iran
travel round about and fly direct from say paris to nyc before they start coughing
from nyc, trains to major cities
walk around coughing on the homeless
go to mosques and cough on the cabbies
by the time they die, so many people will be sick ...

wait, did I just write clancey's next novel outline
FML


He did it 15 years ago. His writing is only a B-, but his stories have a nasty habit of coming true.
 
2012-08-23 07:00:36 AM
MadAzza: Also, I'm fine with this. Now, they should go after anti-vaxxer morons.

This and this.
 
2012-08-23 07:01:37 AM
pciszek: namatad: and that guy who traveled to europe even though he was told not to travel

Well, he kept asking the doctors "Is my family in any danger? Should I stay away from them?" and they kept telling him his family was in no danger. So he went ahead and traveled. The whole thing could have been avoided if the doctors had valued the patient's family's safety as much as they valued everyone else's.


That is pretty facepalm worthy. Someone with active TB infection, especially an MDR-TB strain, is most certainly a danger to their family.

If I have to wear an N95 HEPA mask to be within 10 feet of you, you don't need to be walking down the street unmedicated.
 
2012-08-23 07:02:14 AM
MadAzza: simplicimus: My tuberculosis medicine, not so much. But not completing the entire regime has led to stronger, more resistant, strains.

I hope you mean "regimen."

Also, I'm fine with this. Now, they should go after anti-vaxxer morons.


THIS.
 
2012-08-23 07:11:11 AM
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2012-08-23 07:11:44 AM
Rik01: We can wipe out TB, but other nations don't vaccinate for it and, inevitably, someone pops up from over seas or some of our own stupidly refuse to get the immunizations and the disease remains -- and is mutating.

I think I know who you're talking about. She's vapid, blond, and we've all seen the inside of her hoo-haw. And as much as I dislike Jim Carrey movies, I hope he got his shots.
 
2012-08-23 07:20:11 AM
TB is srs bsns.
 
2012-08-23 07:23:43 AM
fusillade762: Can I be arrested for licking doorknobs and phones in the office when I have a cold?

No, but this will be reflected on your next performance appraisal.
 
2012-08-23 07:26:26 AM
xanadian: TB is srs bsns.

[idkmybffjill.jpg]
 
2012-08-23 07:31:42 AM
simplicimus: impaler:
Nope, I'm going with Woody
This land was made for you and me.


That's Pete Seeger
 
2012-08-23 07:32:01 AM
ChubbyTiger: xanadian: TB is srs bsns.

[idkmybffjill.jpg]


lolkthxbai
 
2012-08-23 07:34:04 AM
MAYORBOB: fusillade762: Can I be arrested for licking doorknobs and phones in the office when I have a cold?

No, but this will be reflected on your next performance appraisal.


Namely on whether or not you can fit the whole doorknob in your mouth.
 
2012-08-23 07:35:45 AM
simplicimus: impaler: Sim Tree: My question: Why wouldn't you? Are you suicidal? I can't think of a good reason NOT to take Tuberculosis medication.

Liberty. That's why.

O beautiful, for spacious skies,
For amber waves of grain,
For purple mountain majesties
Above the fruited plain!

Everyone!

Nope, I'm going with Woody
This land was made for you and me.


Nope. It was made for the Native Americans. We took it from them. If you want to go far enough back, they took it from the Pleistocene megafauna that were here when they arrived.

This land wasn't made for you and me. It just happens to be there.
 
2012-08-23 07:36:15 AM
Rik01: We can wipe out TB, but other nations don't vaccinate for it

Is there currently a vaccine for TB? I have been trying to stay current on all relevant vaccines--I even got an adult polio booster--and that is not one that I have been offered.
 
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