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2012-08-23 12:49:11 AM

TuteTibiImperes: crispyone: TuteTibiImperes: So the economy improving under Obama is bad for Obama? I'm sure all of those people finally able to breathe a little bit easier now that the bills are paid with a little bit leftover are just ecstatic about Romney's plan for a $2,000 tax hike on the middle class so that the one percenters can splurge on those 100' yachts or Gulfstream Vs they've been holding off on.

Economy....improving...under Obama!!!! LOL!!!!! Thanks. I haven't laughed so hard in years.

Housing market is recovering, less people are living paycheck to paycheck, the auto market is bouncing back, and the stock market is up. Other than the dollar still being a bit weak, I'd say it's doing well. I've already made as much this year as I did in the entirety of last year.

Just think of how well things could be going if we'd been able to move to a true single payer Medicare-for-all healthcare system and if we hadn't wasted all of that time on the senseless debt ceiling and budget posturing.


Sounds like someone needs to pay more in taxes!
 
2012-08-23 12:49:38 AM

GoldSpider: MrHelpful: There's a lot of bad news headed Obama's way. Hope he kept up on his community organizer network - he's gonna need a job soon. Or he could just write a bunch of made up books - there's plenty of suckers out there who'll buy them.

And gettin that ni... community organizer out of the White House is the one sure way to create jobs!


Not to mention putting a guy who has the same policies of 'Deregulate all the things and give tax cuts and other handouts to the rich' that got us INTO this farking mess in the first place.
 
2012-08-23 12:49:43 AM
No thanks to The Clown In Chief. Yes I've paid my bills without assistance.
 
2012-08-23 12:49:51 AM

impaler: Malév Hungarian Airlines


I'm sure this isn't the only foreign company on your list, which is not our farking problem!
 
2012-08-23 12:50:00 AM

dickfreckle: I'd just be happy if my earnings were even trying to pace with the increased costs of fuel (and everything fuel prices impact), insurance, etc. I'm not broke, but my dollar is basically a limp noodle compared to what it used to be. Every time I go to the grocery store I get pissed off at how little $100 buys vs. what it did in the late 90s, when I began earning a similar income as I currently make. And don't tell me to finish graduate school; I don't have the time or the money. Besides, I'd probably just end up making what I make now, only with more prestige and bragging rights.

American Dream, my ass.


static2.businessinsider.com
 
2012-08-23 12:50:50 AM

crispyone: StopLurkListen: impaler: List of business failures.

2009.

Woohoo! The company I worked at is in there! Of course, I was laid off in 2003, and in my division it was one of those "you people go in that conference room, the rest of you go over there" and you knew it was bad, and you started sizing up those around you and tried to guess if you were in the "canned" group. Surprise! EVERYONE IN THE DIVISION GOT CANNED!

That was my first FARK experience, getting into an argument with somebody on FARK over the Iraq War and he threatened to "out" me to my company IT via some IP tracing witchery. HAHAHA GOOD LUCK I'M BEHIND A FRENCH DOMAIN I'm sure "Pierre" over in corporate IT in Paris or where ever will give a merde.

//Before you ask, yes this account is newer than that; no I'm not using an alt, I lost my original username and password and my interest in FARK for about 5 years somewhere in the middle

Let me guess...It was Romney who fired you after forcing you to build a stage at gun point just so he could look down on you as you were fired. He then gave your wife cancer and stole candy from your children...then forced you to dig your own grave as he pissed on your head and told you it was raining?!??!?


Naw, Mitt 'n' I are like *THIS* (holds two fingers up in Boy Scout Salute). We go way back to college.

He impregnated my stage, gave my grave piss cancer, set fire to the children then stole my candy gun.
 
2012-08-23 12:51:39 AM
The should take it again when higher food prices hit in a few months.
 
2012-08-23 12:52:13 AM

OgreMagi: I'm sure this isn't the only foreign company on your list, which is not our farking problem!


So, you're completely unaware of our global economy?
 
2012-08-23 12:52:48 AM
cdn.theatlantic.com
 
2012-08-23 12:53:08 AM

nmemkha: The should take it again when higher food prices hit in a few months.


Damn that Obama and his drought-ray!
 
2012-08-23 12:54:02 AM

nmemkha: The should take it again when higher food prices hit in a few months.


Because drought is caused by Fed action, right?
 
2012-08-23 12:54:07 AM

impaler: List of business failures.

2008
Allco Finance Group
Aloha Airlines
Amtrak Express Parcels
...
Crabtree & Evelyn
....
...


/there's a few jokes in there somewhere....

bookmarking list to review later.

btw, is this just the brick and mortar list?
how many employees per business (at their peak)?
 
2012-08-23 12:54:39 AM
I'm just glad Obamugabe has relaxed his tyrannical grip over the price of oil.
Some say he is only temporarily allowing us these prices to lull us into a false sense of security before he stops the supply entirely and invokes martial law when Romney/Ryan win in a landslide. 
If only they knew the real purpose behind Solyndra.
 
2012-08-23 12:55:59 AM

crispyone: TuteTibiImperes: crispyone: TuteTibiImperes: So the economy improving under Obama is bad for Obama? I'm sure all of those people finally able to breathe a little bit easier now that the bills are paid with a little bit leftover are just ecstatic about Romney's plan for a $2,000 tax hike on the middle class so that the one percenters can splurge on those 100' yachts or Gulfstream Vs they've been holding off on.

Economy....improving...under Obama!!!! LOL!!!!! Thanks. I haven't laughed so hard in years.

Housing market is recovering, less people are living paycheck to paycheck, the auto market is bouncing back, and the stock market is up. Other than the dollar still being a bit weak, I'd say it's doing well. I've already made as much this year as I did in the entirety of last year.

Just think of how well things could be going if we'd been able to move to a true single payer Medicare-for-all healthcare system and if we hadn't wasted all of that time on the senseless debt ceiling and budget posturing.

Sounds like someone needs to pay more in taxes!


That's generally how it works, the more you make, the larger a percentage of your income you should pay. I'm OK with that, because I still have more leftover after taxes than I did when I made less.

I happen to like things like NASA, NPR, the NEA, DARPA, naional parks, bridges that don't fall down, and government backed advances in clean energy. I also like the idea of everyone having enough money that they can go out and spend it to actually keep the economy going. Money flows up, not down.
 
2012-08-23 12:57:06 AM

OgreMagi: impaler: Malév Hungarian Airlines

I'm sure this isn't the only foreign company on your list, which is not our farking problem!


In the original posters defense "Malev Hungarian Airlines" probably received tax payer money from Obama. Dig deeper and I'd bet you find that George Soros invested in Malev Hungarian Airlines about 2 weeks before Obama gave them tax payer money....kinda like he invested in Brazilian oil right before Obama gave them tax payer money.
 
2012-08-23 12:59:44 AM

impaler: List of business failures.

2008
Allco Finance Group
Aloha Airlines
Amtrak Express Parcels
Apex Aircraft
ATA Airlines
Australian School of Business and Technology[56]
Bennigan's
Bill Heard Enterprises
Buffets, Inc.
Circuit City Stores[note 20][57][58]
Coast Air
Commander Communications
Countrywide Financial
Dawahares
Dolcis Shoes
eos Airlines
FreshXpress
Frontier Airlines
Gamley's
Glitnir[note 21]
Gretna F.C.
Halifax Town A.F.C.
Harold's
Holley Performance Products[59]
IndyMac Bank
iQon Technologies
Kaupthing Bank[note 22]
Kaupthing Singer & Friedlander[note 23]
Krispy Kreme Hong Kong[60]
Landsbanki[note 24]
Lehman Brothers[note 25]
Lenox
Levitz Furniture[61]
Lillian Vernon
Linens 'n Things[62]
Luton Town F.C.
Madoff Investment Securities
Mattress Discounters[45]
Meguro Sushi[63]
Mervyns[58]
MFI Group
Montres Villemont[64][note 26]
Morgan UK[65]
Motorworld[66]
Nationwide Airlines
Oasis Hong Kong Airlines
The Officers Club[67][68]
Olan Mills[69]
Opes Prime
Peau Vavaʻu
Photo-Optix[70][note 27]
Pilgrim's Pride
RC Developments[71]
Rosebys
Rotherham United F.C.
Sanlu Group
The Sharper Image[72]
Shoe Pavilion[73]
Silver State Helicopters
Silverjet
Skybus Airlines
Super Aguri F1[74]
Tai Lin Radio Service[75]
Tribune Company
Tropicana Entertainment
Tuctuc Ltd[76]
Tweeter[77]
U-Right[78][note 28]
USC[79]
Value City
VeraSun Energy
Vivitar
Wachovia
Washington Mutual
WCI Communities
Wickes Furniture
Wilsons Leather
WiQuest Communications
Woolworths Group
XL Airways UK
Yamato Life
Zavvi[80]
Ziff Davis
Zoom Airlines

2009
3D Realms
A1 Grand Prix Operations[81]
AbitibiBowater
Allied Carpets
Apex Silver Mines
Arcandor
Babcock & Brown
Bashas'
BearingPoint
Berkhamsted Town F.C.
Boater's World
Borders UK
Central Park Media
Charter Communications
Christian Lacroix[82]
CIT Group
Colonial Bancgroup
Crabtree & Evelyn
Darlington F.C.
Denver Newspaper Agency
Empire Direct
Extended Stay Hotels
Escada
Fisher Athletic F.C.
First Quench Retailing
Fleetwood Enterprises
FlyLal
Fortunoff
Goody's Family Clothing
Gottschalks
Hartmarx
Idearc
G.I. Joe's
Journal Register Company
Karmann[83]
KB Toys
Land of Leather[84]
LDV Group
FK Lyn
LyondellBasell
Magna Entertainment Corp.
Märklin
Merisant
Midway Games
Monaco Coach Corporation
Nortel
Peanut Corporation of America
Philadelphia Media Holdings[85]
Qimonda
Reader's Digest Association
R. H. Donnelley
Ritz Camera Centers
SeeqPod
Send the Light
SETA Corporation
Setanta Sports
SFCG Co.
Silicon Graphics
Smurfit-Stone Container
Spansion
Spectrum Brands
SPV GmbH
SsangYong Motor Company [note 29][86]
Stanford Financial Group
Station Casinos
Steve & Barry's
Strathfield[87]
Stylo
Sun-Times Media Group
Taylor, Bean & Whitaker
Tronox
Trump Entertainment Resorts
Viyella
Waterford Wedgwood[88]
Young Broadcasting

2010
Adams Childrenwear
Air America Radio
Bidtopia
Blockbuster Inc.
Canwest
HFC Haarlem
Hollywood Video
Pontin's

2011
4Kids Entertainment
AJWright
Borders Group
Focus DIY
Habitat
Hawkin's Bazaar
HomeForm Group
Oddbins
Syms Corporation
Ultimate Electronics

2012
SeaFrance
Malév Hungarian Airlines
Rangers F.C.


2008
Madoff Investment Securities

Lulz
 
2012-08-23 01:00:44 AM
Does this number include some of the roughly 165 million financially dependant on the government in one way or another?
 
2012-08-23 01:01:01 AM
/sorry about the copypasta, couldn't edit on phone
 
2012-08-23 01:03:26 AM

socodog: Does this number include some of the roughly 165 million financially dependant on the government in one way or another?


Not if you ask them.

s3.amazonaws.com
 
2012-08-23 01:03:52 AM

crispyone: OgreMagi: impaler: Malév Hungarian Airlines

I'm sure this isn't the only foreign company on your list, which is not our farking problem!

In the original posters defense "Malev Hungarian Airlines" probably received tax payer money from Obama. Dig deeper and I'd bet you find that George Soros invested in Malev Hungarian Airlines about 2 weeks before Obama gave them tax payer money....kinda like he invested in Brazilian oil right before Obama gave them tax payer money.


Or you could dig deeper and provide some proof for the facts you're pulling from your nethers.
 
2012-08-23 01:07:39 AM

socodog: Does this number include some of the roughly 165 million financially dependant on the government in one way or another?


Because taking advantage of social security of medicare programs that you've paid into during your working years is just like being on welfare, and while tax cuts and loopholes for the rich are "preserving our freedoms" it's socialism when the poor use the tax code to their advantage.
 
2012-08-23 01:08:27 AM

Lunchlady: Or you could dig deeper and provide some proof for the facts claims you're pulling from your nethers.


FTFY.

Notice the thread shiatters aren't posting ANY facts to support their bullshat? Only general unsupported claims?

Both sides are bad. And by sides, I mean lying sacks of shat, and those interested in reality.
 
2012-08-23 01:10:04 AM
You and the point did not connect at all.

TuteTibiImperes: socodog: Does this number include some of the roughly 165 million financially dependant on the government in one way or another?

Because taking advantage of social security of medicare programs that you've paid into during your working years is just like being on welfare, and while tax cuts and loopholes for the rich are "preserving our freedoms" it's socialism when the poor use the tax code to their advantage.

 
2012-08-23 01:13:09 AM

socodog: You and the point did not connect at all.
TuteTibiImperes: socodog: Does this number include some of the roughly 165 million financially dependant on the government in one way or another?

Because taking advantage of social security of medicare programs that you've paid into during your working years is just like being on welfare, and while tax cuts and loopholes for the rich are "preserving our freedoms" it's socialism when the poor use the tax code to their advantage.


I felt the sarcasm came across, but perhaps I should have used a slashy to clarify.
 
2012-08-23 01:13:48 AM
Obama will win in a landslide. Not because he is so great but because Romney is such a sleaze ball. People prefer bad they know, than bad they don't know. The economy is farked because of Wall Street and the banking system, not government, except the fact that big business buys off politicians to keep themselves rich.
 
2012-08-23 01:15:31 AM

impaler: [cdn.theatlantic.com image 620x394]


It's so funny listening to Obama and his stooges talk about, "Obama has created 10 bagillion jobs" when they never mentions jobs lost. 10 bagillion - 20 bagillion is still a negative number. Bottom farking line liberal idiots....when unemployment has gone UP that means more jobs have been lost than have been created.

And no amount of..."But, but, but, George Bush" changes that fact.

Obama promises...

Cut deficit in half...Doubled deficit.
Close Gitmo by end of first year.....Gitmo still open.
Enemployment won't go above 8%...It did.
Will stop drone attacks...doubled drone attacks and even bombs rescue workers of previous drone attacks.
 
2012-08-23 01:16:23 AM
This must be the thread where Obama is blamed for the mess he inherited from Bush and the GOP.
That's good because we haven't had one of those for awhile.
 
2012-08-23 01:16:27 AM

Summoner101: /sorry about the copypasta, couldn't edit on phone


lulz, now im going to have to read tfa

/Sory 'bout 

waiting on my next direct deposit
/while renter getting a post dated cheque, that didn't cash on time.
 
2012-08-23 01:17:20 AM

TuteTibiImperes: socodog: Does this number include some of the roughly 165 million financially dependant on the government in one way or another?

Because taking advantage of social security of medicare programs that you've paid into during your working years is just like being on welfare, and while tax cuts and loopholes for the rich are "preserving our freedoms" it's socialism when the poor use the tax code to their advantage.


soldiersystems.net
 
2012-08-23 01:18:30 AM
Hey Subby, STFU and GBTW. The Slurpee machine needs to be topped off.
 
2012-08-23 01:19:14 AM
hell, we've been living paycheck to paycheck since....well.....forever? wtf?
 
2012-08-23 01:20:31 AM
Yo, don't forget the CONTINUATION of patriot act, the "bush" tax cuts, and a big first (probably the worst thing he's done) extrajudicial assassination of US citizens.
 
2012-08-23 01:20:36 AM

GoldSpider: nmemkha: The should take it again when higher food prices hit in a few months.

Damn that Obama and his drought-ray!


If Bush was in office MSNBC would be running nightly episodes on "Why has Bush done nothing to stop the drought!!" Common liberal media tactic...every environmental disaster is the fault of the nearest republican.
 
2012-08-23 01:21:02 AM

Alonjar: Wonder how many of those people no longer live paycheck to paycheck because they have adjusted to a lower standard of living.


Good point - its not necessarily "Bad News" for Obama, it may just mean folks have found ways(voluntarily or involuntarily) to live below their means.

It would be interesting to see how this compares to the number of people who have increased their savings rate.
 
2012-08-23 01:21:52 AM

impaler: List of business failures.

2008
Bennigan's

Thank goodness for that. shiatty restaurants selling overpriced crappy bar food (and a decent Monte Cristo) should close down.

Circuit City Stores[note 20][57][58]
Hello thar H.H.Gregg.

Lehman Brothers[note 25]
If only this was Goldman instead... well, I guess it's "better" that Goldman didn't crash, but that's all relative.

Madoff Investment Securities
EL OH EL

Mattress Discounters[45]
Tired of high school kids calling them up and asking for cum resistant mattresses?

Anyway, looking at your list, it appears that there has been a sharp decline on the number of businesses closed since Obama's policies started taking affect.
 
2012-08-23 01:22:15 AM

Mantour: TuteTibiImperes: socodog: Does this number include some of the roughly 165 million financially dependant on the government in one way or another?

Because taking advantage of social security of medicare programs that you've paid into during your working years is just like being on welfare, and while tax cuts and loopholes for the rich are "preserving our freedoms" it's socialism when the poor use the tax code to their advantage.

[soldiersystems.net image 500x370]


You win the thread.
 
2012-08-23 01:22:34 AM

impaler: 2008
Allco Finance Group
Aloha Airlines
Amtrak Express Parcels
Apex Aircraft
ATA Airlines
Australian School of Business and Technology[56]
Bennigan's
Bill Heard Enterprises
Buffets, Inc.
Circuit City Stores[note 20][57][58]
Coast Air
Commander Communications
Countrywide Financial
Dawahares
Dolcis Shoes
eos Airlines
FreshXpress
Frontier Airlines
Gamley's
Glitnir[note 21]
Gretna F.C.
Halifax Town A.F.C.
Harold's
Holley Performance Products[59]
IndyMac Bank
iQon Technologies
Kaupthing Bank[note 22]
Kaupthing Singer & Friedlander[note 23]
Krispy Kreme Hong Kong[60]
Landsbanki[note 24]
Lehman Brothers[note 25]
Lenox
Levitz Furniture[61]
Lillian Vernon
Linens 'n Things[62]
Luton Town F.C.
Madoff Investment Securities
Mattress Discounters[45]
Meguro Sushi[63]
Mervyns[58]
MFI Group
Montres Villemont[64][note 26]
Morgan UK[65]
Motorworld[66]
Nationwide Airlines
Oasis Hong Kong Airlines
The Officers Club[67][68]
Olan Mills[69]
Opes Prime
Peau Vavaʻu
Photo-Optix[70][note 27]
Pilgrim's Pride
RC Developments[71]
Rosebys
Rotherham United F.C.
Sanlu Group
The Sharper Image[72]
Shoe Pavilion[73]
Silver State Helicopters
Silverjet
Skybus Airlines
Super Aguri F1[74]
Tai Lin Radio Service[75]
Tribune Company
Tropicana Entertainment
Tuctuc Ltd[76]
Tweeter[77]
U-Right[78][note 28]
USC[79]
Value City
VeraSun Energy
Vivitar
Wachovia
Washington Mutual
WCI Communities
Wickes Furniture
Wilsons Leather
WiQuest Communications
Woolworths Group
XL Airways UK
Yamato Life
Zavvi[80]
Ziff Davis
Zoom Airlines


Obama bad businesses fail before he even was president?
 
2012-08-23 01:24:07 AM
No, not really.

MemeSlave: Mantour: TuteTibiImperes: socodog: Does this number include some of the roughly 165 million financially dependant on the government in one way or another?

Because taking advantage of social security of medicare programs that you've paid into during your working years is just like being on welfare, and while tax cuts and loopholes for the rich are "preserving our freedoms" it's socialism when the poor use the tax code to their advantage.

[soldiersystems.net image 500x370]

You win the thread.

 
2012-08-23 01:25:03 AM

socodog: You and the point did not connect at all.
TuteTibiImperes: socodog: Does this number include some of the roughly 165 million financially dependant on the government in one way or another?

Because taking advantage of social security of medicare programs that you've paid into during your working years is just like being on welfare, and while tax cuts and loopholes for the rich are "preserving our freedoms" it's socialism when the poor use the tax code to their advantage.


Jason Lewis "Mr. Right" (a more libertarian bent, less insane version of Limbaugh) stated today that one of the biggest government subsidies was that employees get paid in health insurance, and it isn't taxed. This comes out to something like $100 billion. The reason its so big is because it applies to all employed people. The other subsidies are categorized by industry. Then he went on to the home mortgage interest deduction.

They aren't just visibly attacking the "leach" poor anymore. They're attacking the middle class - and they're not even hiding it.

These myopic twits have extended Wall-streets near-sighted corporate philosophy to everything. All that matter is the next quarters profits. If they can get their next tax payment lower, by fuking the middle class, they will do it.

They don't even have the foresight to realize if the fark the middle class, there will be no one left to buy their shat.
 
2012-08-23 01:27:16 AM

crispyone: It's so funny listening to Obama and his stooges talk about, "Obama has created 10 bagillion jobs" when they never mentions jobs lost


That graph is "jobs created - jobs lost," you moron.
 
2012-08-23 01:30:29 AM

TuteTibiImperes: crispyone: TuteTibiImperes: crispyone: TuteTibiImperes: So the economy improving under Obama is bad for Obama? I'm sure all of those people finally able to breathe a little bit easier now that the bills are paid with a little bit leftover are just ecstatic about Romney's plan for a $2,000 tax hike on the middle class so that the one percenters can splurge on those 100' yachts or Gulfstream Vs they've been holding off on.

Economy....improving...under Obama!!!! LOL!!!!! Thanks. I haven't laughed so hard in years.

Housing market is recovering, less people are living paycheck to paycheck, the auto market is bouncing back, and the stock market is up. Other than the dollar still being a bit weak, I'd say it's doing well. I've already made as much this year as I did in the entirety of last year.

Just think of how well things could be going if we'd been able to move to a true single payer Medicare-for-all healthcare system and if we hadn't wasted all of that time on the senseless debt ceiling and budget posturing.

Sounds like someone needs to pay more in taxes!

That's generally how it works, the more you make, the larger a percentage of your income you should pay. I'm OK with that, because I still have more leftover after taxes than I did when I made less.

I happen to like things like NASA, NPR, the NEA, DARPA, naional parks, bridges that don't fall down, and government backed advances in clean energy. I also like the idea of everyone having enough money that they can go out and spend it to actually keep the economy going. Money flows up, not down.


So I'm sure you are glad you are up stream rather than down stream. So how much of your non-taxed money do you donate to NASA, NPR, and the NEA???? I'm guessing you donate ZERO to those agencies.

Hilarious that as an obvious liberal you put DARPA on your list...You do realize that DARPA is 100% about US military and scientific dominance over the rest of the world? You do realize that DARPA funds research that is 100% geared towards technology killing any form of life?
 
2012-08-23 01:34:49 AM

crispyone: Hilarious that as an obvious liberal you put DARPA on your list...You do realize that DARPA is 100% about US military and scientific dominance over the rest of the world?


I'm an R&D engineer.

DARPA has funded my paychecks many times, in the area of computer networking, which is how we're communicating right now, and you're staring to irritate me.

You do realize that DARPA funds research that is 100% geared towards technology killing any form of life?

More than you want to know right now.
 
2012-08-23 01:35:09 AM

impaler: socodog: You and the point did not connect at all.
TuteTibiImperes: socodog: Does this number include some of the roughly 165 million financially dependant on the government in one way or another?

Because taking advantage of social security of medicare programs that you've paid into during your working years is just like being on welfare, and while tax cuts and loopholes for the rich are "preserving our freedoms" it's socialism when the poor use the tax code to their advantage.

Jason Lewis "Mr. Right" (a more libertarian bent, less insane version of Limbaugh) stated today that one of the biggest government subsidies was that employees get paid in health insurance, and it isn't taxed. This comes out to something like $100 billion. The reason its so big is because it applies to all employed people. The other subsidies are categorized by industry. Then he went on to the home mortgage interest deduction.

They aren't just visibly attacking the "leach" poor anymore. They're attacking the middle class - and they're not even hiding it.

These myopic twits have extended Wall-streets near-sighted corporate philosophy to everything. All that matter is the next quarters profits. If they can get their next tax payment lower, by fuking the middle class, they will do it.

They don't even have the foresight to realize if the fark the middle class, there will be no one left to buy their shat.


Agreed. The problem is as it ever was that everyone overestimates their own prosperity, and their prosperity in the near future. A family with a $150,000 household income, through some feat of amazing cognitive dissonance, hears Obama's plan that taxes will go down or remain steady for anyone with an income under $250,000, and then Romney's plan that taxes will go down for those making over $1,000,000 and somehow believe that the latter plan is more in their interests. It baffles my mind.
 
2012-08-23 01:35:22 AM

crispyone: So how much of your non-taxed money do you donate to NASA, NPR, and the NEA???? I'm guessing you donate ZERO to those agencies.


i1101.photobucket.com


OK, nice performance. [clapclapclapclap]
 
2012-08-23 01:41:28 AM

impaler: crispyone: It's so funny listening to Obama and his stooges talk about, "Obama has created 10 bagillion jobs" when they never mentions jobs lost

That graph is "jobs created - jobs lost," you moron.


Too dumb to respond!!! LOL!!!!
 
2012-08-23 01:44:54 AM

crispyone: impaler: crispyone: It's so funny listening to Obama and his stooges talk about, "Obama has created 10 bagillion jobs" when they never mentions jobs lost

That graph is "jobs created - jobs lost," you moron.

Too dumb to respond!!! LOL!!!!


Dude, slow down. Milk the audience. Don't blow all of your material in the first five minutes.

i1190.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-23 01:47:50 AM

crispyone: TuteTibiImperes: crispyone: TuteTibiImperes: crispyone: TuteTibiImperes: So the economy improving under Obama is bad for Obama? I'm sure all of those people finally able to breathe a little bit easier now that the bills are paid with a little bit leftover are just ecstatic about Romney's plan for a $2,000 tax hike on the middle class so that the one percenters can splurge on those 100' yachts or Gulfstream Vs they've been holding off on.

Economy....improving...under Obama!!!! LOL!!!!! Thanks. I haven't laughed so hard in years.

Housing market is recovering, less people are living paycheck to paycheck, the auto market is bouncing back, and the stock market is up. Other than the dollar still being a bit weak, I'd say it's doing well. I've already made as much this year as I did in the entirety of last year.

Just think of how well things could be going if we'd been able to move to a true single payer Medicare-for-all healthcare system and if we hadn't wasted all of that time on the senseless debt ceiling and budget posturing.

Sounds like someone needs to pay more in taxes!

That's generally how it works, the more you make, the larger a percentage of your income you should pay. I'm OK with that, because I still have more leftover after taxes than I did when I made less.

I happen to like things like NASA, NPR, the NEA, DARPA, naional parks, bridges that don't fall down, and government backed advances in clean energy. I also like the idea of everyone having enough money that they can go out and spend it to actually keep the economy going. Money flows up, not down.

So I'm sure you are glad you are up stream rather than down stream. So how much of your non-taxed money do you donate to NASA, NPR, and the NEA???? I'm guessing you donate ZERO to those agencies.

Hilarious that as an obvious liberal you put DARPA on your list...You do realize that DARPA is 100% about US military and scientific dominance over the rest of the world? You do realize that DARPA funds res ...


Everyone is upstream of someone else. Even the guy flipping burgers needs someone with enough money to buy the burger to keep his job. If you put more money in the hands of the working and middle classes those people will spend the money as opposed to the extremely wealthy who can afford to sit on it, park it offshore, or play stock market games with it. If people spend more all businesses will do better, which will create more profits and more jobs pouring money back into the system. There has to be a steady flow of cash into the hands of average consumers for economy to grow and prosper.

I can be liberal and still support the military and DARPA. I know what DARPA does, and many of their innovations have found their way into civilian sector products, most notable the internet. I'm generally pro-science funding of any sort. Just because something is originally designed to help a cruise missile hit a golf ball sized target 1,000 miles away doesn't mean that someday that same technology won't help my car be able to autonomously drive cross country while I take a nap behind the wheel.

Plus, making the military more efficient means that the costs of wars can come down in the future. The more we can do with less boots on the ground the cheaper it will be for the public at large in the next conflict we get caught up in. I'd much rather see tax dollars go to a government owned non-profit research organization than to profit based private sector defense contractors.
 
2012-08-23 01:55:32 AM

crispyone: StopLurkListen: impaler: List of business failures.

2009.

Woohoo! The company I worked at is in there! Of course, I was laid off in 2003, and in my division it was one of those "you people go in that conference room, the rest of you go over there" and you knew it was bad, and you started sizing up those around you and tried to guess if you were in the "canned" group. Surprise! EVERYONE IN THE DIVISION GOT CANNED!

That was my first FARK experience, getting into an argument with somebody on FARK over the Iraq War and he threatened to "out" me to my company IT via some IP tracing witchery. HAHAHA GOOD LUCK I'M BEHIND A FRENCH DOMAIN I'm sure "Pierre" over in corporate IT in Paris or where ever will give a merde.

//Before you ask, yes this account is newer than that; no I'm not using an alt, I lost my original username and password and my interest in FARK for about 5 years somewhere in the middle

Let me guess...It was Romney who fired you after forcing you to build a stage at gun point just so he could look down on you as you were fired. He then gave your wife cancer and stole candy from your children...then forced you to dig your own grave as he pissed on your head and told you it was raining?!??!?


*snerk*
 
2012-08-23 01:58:17 AM

Elandriel: Eagerly awaiting my chance to join this group of people. Maybe if corporate financial America remembers what a "raise" is.


mmmmmm, yep. Me too.
 
2012-08-23 01:58:47 AM

impaler: crispyone: Hilarious that as an obvious liberal you put DARPA on your list...You do realize that DARPA is 100% about US military and scientific dominance over the rest of the world?

I'm an R&D engineer.

DARPA has funded my paychecks many times, in the area of computer networking, which is how we're communicating right now, and you're staring to irritate me.

You do realize that DARPA funds research that is 100% geared towards technology killing any form of life?

More than you want to know right now.


gonna need a job in a few years when I graduate with ME and EE degrees. Job prospects?

I figure it can't be as bad as what I do now, and my ME AutoCAD Prof can't remember the last time someone graduated with both at the same time. It has happened, but not much. Haven't spoken with the EE AutoCAD(MATLAB) Prof. yet. Seems a bit out there; good guy, just a little off.

/3.7(or so), at the moment.
//one B+ farked my 4.0 GPA
 
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