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(Times of Israel)   Israel: "Mess with us and you'll suffer the wrath of American military. What? That's what I said. Israeli military, No, I'm pretty sure I said Israeli military. Well, that's what I meant"   (timesofisrael.com) divider line 331
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2012-08-22 06:45:39 PM  
Subby, are you sure you submitted the right link?
 
2012-08-22 06:53:53 PM  
Israel's Channel 10 News claimed on Monday night that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu "is determined to attack Iran before the US elections," and that Israel is now "closer than ever" to a strike designed to thwart Iran's nuclear drive.

The report added that Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak believe President Barack Obama would have no choice but to give backing for an Israeli attack before the US presidential elections in November.


/Not Subby
 
2012-08-22 06:54:33 PM  
That was directed to RoyBatty
 
2012-08-22 07:01:33 PM  

gilgigamesh: Israel's Channel 10 News claimed on Monday night that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu "is determined to attack Iran before the US elections," and that Israel is now "closer than ever" to a strike designed to thwart Iran's nuclear drive.

The report added that Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak believe President Barack Obama would have no choice but to give backing for an Israeli attack before the US presidential elections in November.

/Not Subby


Seems like a huge gulf between that and the headline.
 
2012-08-22 07:03:40 PM  

gilgigamesh: The report added that Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak believe President Barack Obama would have no choice but to give backing for an Israeli attack before the US presidential elections in November.


groan
 
2012-08-22 07:11:50 PM  

RoyBatty: Seems like a huge gulf between that and the headline.


Really? Seemed pretty farking dead on to me.

It's a helluva lot easier to stand up to Biff the playground bully when you've got Rick the linebacker standing behind you.
 
2012-08-22 07:32:58 PM  
This will not end well.
 
2012-08-22 07:41:11 PM  
jaypgreene.files.wordpress.com

/I usually submit this as a joke :/
 
2012-08-22 07:57:17 PM  

Pocket Ninja: RoyBatty: Another way to look at it is there are many more alternatives between the US okays an attack and the US participates in the attack that has been left out of the headline.

You know, you're right.

Subby, you felonious bastard. You went and left out about six or seven layers of alternative response from your headline. I don't know what kind of site you thought you were submitting to, but this is Fark, goddamnit. There's a certain standard here, mister, and you just failed to meet it. Now I want you to spend a good long time thinking about what you've done here, and don't let this happen again, you rascal.


Just keeping it real -- I know how much we all hate troll headlines and I thought if we were going to have another bash Israel thread (4th in 4 days) based on pretty much the same stuff the headline should somehow stay within the Alpha Quadrant.
 
2012-08-22 08:11:28 PM  
Ehud Barak

Barak
Hussein Obama

COINCIDENCE??
 
2012-08-22 08:14:37 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Ehud Barak

Barak Hussein Obama

COINCIDENCE??


Wait a minute... Dick Sargent... Dick York... Sergeant York!
 
2012-08-22 08:15:32 PM  

RoyBatty: gilgigamesh: Israel's Channel 10 News claimed on Monday night that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu "is determined to attack Iran before the US elections," and that Israel is now "closer than ever" to a strike designed to thwart Iran's nuclear drive.

The report added that Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak believe President Barack Obama would have no choice but to give backing for an Israeli attack before the US presidential elections in November.

/Not Subby

Seems like a huge gulf between that and the headline.


Israel knows which side its bread is buttered on and will not jump until given express permission to do so. Same as it ever was.
 
2012-08-22 08:15:40 PM  

gilgigamesh: The report added that Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak believe President Barack Obama would have no choice but to give backing for an Israeli attack before the US presidential elections in November.


If I were the president this would piss me off and I'd tell Bibi that he was on his own.
 
2012-08-22 08:15:41 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: AverageAmericanGuy: Ehud Barak

Barak Hussein Obama

COINCIDENCE??

Wait a minute... Dick Sargent... Dick York... Sergeant York!


We're through the looking glass here, people.
 
2012-08-22 08:17:44 PM  
Israel as an ally is like having a little brother who goes around bullying and picking fights, and when someone dares to fight back, comes running to you and tells you to go beat up that kid for him.

Maybe this time we should sit this one out if Israel wants to attack Iran. We certainly don't want any of our Naval ships to be mistaken for the enemy and shot full of holes THIS time, do we? ;)
 
2012-08-22 08:18:01 PM  

gilgigamesh: Israel's Channel 10 News claimed on Monday night that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu "is determined to attack Iran before the US elections," and that Israel is now "closer than ever" to a strike designed to thwart Iran's nuclear drive.

The report added that Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak believe President Barack Obama would have no choice but to give backing for an Israeli attack before the US presidential elections in November.

/Not Subby


This sounds like bad news...
...for Romney.

You can't vote out a wartime president, that would be unpatriotic.

/why do Republicans hate America?
 
2012-08-22 08:20:04 PM  
War has changed. It's no longer about nations, ideologies, or ethnicity. It's an endless series of proxy battles fought by mercenaries and machines. War - and its consumption of life - has become a well-oiled machine. War has changed. ID-tagged soldiers carry ID-tagged weapons, use ID-tagged gear. Nanomachines inside their bodies enhance and regulate their abilities. Genetic control. Information control. Emotion control. Battlefield control. Everything is monitored and kept under control. War has changed. The age of deterrence has become the age of control... All in the name of averting catastrophe from weapons of mass destruction. And he who controls the battlefield... controls history. War has changed. When the battlefield is under total control... War becomes routine.
 
2012-08-22 08:22:06 PM  

gilgigamesh: Israel's Channel 10 News claimed on Monday night that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu "is determined to attack Iran before the US elections," and that Israel is now "closer than ever" to a strike designed to thwart Iran's nuclear drive.

The report added that Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak believe President Barack Obama would have no choice but to give backing for an Israeli attack before the US presidential elections in November.

/Not Subby


I hope not because then Obama will declare a state of emergency and marshal law and stop the November election then we will all die under communistic Marxism.
 
2012-08-22 08:24:33 PM  
The only army Netanyahu needs is the army of "American" media personalities, led by Wolf Blitzer, who will sell American blood, yet again.
 
2012-08-22 08:24:44 PM  

KimNorth: I hope not because then Obama will declare a state of emergency and marshal law and stop the November election then we will all die under communistic Marxism.


Well, you guys will. I'm a black guy. So I've been assigned to Sector 8G and when the signal is given I am to assist in rounding up all the white-....

Hold on a second. Phone's ringing.

Er, yeah, never mind. HA! Kidding. It was a joke.

Yes. A.... joke.
 
2012-08-22 08:26:40 PM  
Just sayin': it's hard for me to take seriously a General officer named "Benny".
 
2012-08-22 08:26:49 PM  
pffft - I was expecting a Joe Biden - Thanks a LOT subby

Yeah - and I LIKE unka Joe
 
2012-08-22 08:27:22 PM  
Dear Israel... we're a bit busy at the moment, please handle your own shiat for now. XOXO - USA.

that said, Israel seems to be able to handle their own shiat well enough.
see: six day war
 
2012-08-22 08:28:47 PM  
As a protest, Iran promises to only watch NCIS re-runs before Ziva.
 
2012-08-22 08:29:01 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Israel as an ally is like having a little brother who goes around bullying and picking fights, and when someone dares to fight back, comes running to you and tells you to go beat up that kid for him.

Maybe this time we should sit this one out if Israel wants to attack Iran. We certainly don't want any of our Naval ships to be mistaken for the enemy and shot full of holes THIS time, do we? ;)


You win the "this times a thousand" award for the day.
 
2012-08-22 08:30:14 PM  

BitwiseShift: As a protest, Iran promises to only watch NCIS re-runs before Ziva.


Kate > Ziva.

Yeah I said it.
 
2012-08-22 08:30:59 PM  

Hobodeluxe: gilgigamesh: The report added that Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak believe President Barack Obama would have no choice but to give backing for an Israeli attack before the US presidential elections in November.

If I were the president this would piss me off and I'd tell Bibi that he was on his own.


Which is why none of us is president. I'd tell him the same thing and also to stop trying to interfere in US elections thank you very much.
 
2012-08-22 08:31:18 PM  
I don't see what the big deal is. The Israeli military couldn't function without American funding and backing. It's a simple fact, how is that Israel bashing?
 
2012-08-22 08:32:21 PM  

Gyrfalcon: I'd tell him the same thing and also to stop trying to interfere in US elections thank you very much.


Agreed. It's pretty offensive all around.
 
2012-08-22 08:32:29 PM  
Israel wants to attack Iran because they MIGHT be building a nuclear weapon. Israel HAS nuclear weapons. Based on this logic, should the US be attacking Israel first?
 
2012-08-22 08:33:37 PM  
img855.imageshack.us
 
2012-08-22 08:34:54 PM  
Maybe I am just some dumb shiat, but why do we give Israel anything in the first place?
All they want to do is blow brown people up.. Oh, nevermind.
 
2012-08-22 08:36:08 PM  

RogermcAllen: gilgigamesh: Israel's Channel 10 News claimed on Monday night that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu "is determined to attack Iran before the US elections," and that Israel is now "closer than ever" to a strike designed to thwart Iran's nuclear drive.

The report added that Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak believe President Barack Obama would have no choice but to give backing for an Israeli attack before the US presidential elections in November.

/Not Subby

This sounds like bad news...
...for Romney.

You can't vote out a wartime president, that would be unpatriotic.

/why do Republicans hate America?

You can't vote out a wartime president, that would be unpatriotic.

Oh sure you can. I think it would be a huge mistake for him to back an attack on Iran. The 50% that think an attack is appropriate have no intention of voting for him in the first place. The other 50% would see him propping up the Israeli machine keeping the Palestine people down.

Of course, it's a no-win situation. If the Israeli's go in and lose, other allies will question our resolve to help with the chips are down. If they go in and win, other allies will question whether they need our help at all.

/why do Republicans hate America?
For the same reason Democrats do. They both hate the 50% of the country that doesn't completely agree with them.
 
2012-08-22 08:36:51 PM  
For some reason I would find it hard to feel threatened by a grown man who goes by Benny
 
2012-08-22 08:38:56 PM  

Captain_Ballbeard: [img855.imageshack.us image 529x453]


But, wait...I thought Obama was a Secret MuslimTM. Shouldn't he be against Israel?
 
2012-08-22 08:42:25 PM  
cdn.theatlantic.com

Here are your "friends", America. A bunch of wild-eyed Middle Easterners using an ancient book as a real-estate deed and holding racist lynchings of "Palestinian animals" in public.

Apartheid and genocide, that's what you so vociferously support, America.
 
2012-08-22 08:44:26 PM  

Captain_Ballbeard: [cdn.theatlantic.com image 330x270]

Here are your "friends", America. A bunch of wild-eyed Middle Easterners using an ancient book as a real-estate deed and holding racist lynchings of "Palestinian animals" in public.

Apartheid and genocide, that's what you so vociferously support, America.


What's this "we" business? Not all of us.
 
2012-08-22 08:44:43 PM  

gilgigamesh: KimNorth: I hope not because then Obama will declare a state of emergency and marshal law and stop the November election then we will all die under communistic Marxism.

Well, you guys will. I'm a black guy. So I've been assigned to Sector 8G and when the signal is given I am to assist in rounding up all the white-....

Hold on a second. Phone's ringing.

Er, yeah, never mind. HA! Kidding. It was a joke.

Yes. A.... joke.


Wait, wait wait wait. Stop the thread, stop the arguing, this is serious.

...there are BLACK PEOPLE on FARK?!
 
2012-08-22 08:45:27 PM  
58 comments and not one IDF Girl pic.

farm3.static.flickr.com
 
2012-08-22 08:46:11 PM  

jtown: 58 comments and not one IDF Girl pic.

[farm3.static.flickr.com image 640x480]


Fast forward 20 years...
 
2012-08-22 08:46:21 PM  
idiosyncraticinklings.files.wordpress.com
Anyone who tries to harm Israel will taste "the deadly strength of the IDF,"
 
2012-08-22 08:46:37 PM  

jtown: 58 comments and not one IDF Girl pic.

[farm3.static.flickr.com image 640x480]


Still waiting.
 
2012-08-22 08:46:43 PM  

Captain_Ballbeard: [cdn.theatlantic.com image 330x270]

Here are your "friends", America. A bunch of wild-eyed Middle Easterners using an ancient book as a real-estate deed and holding racist lynchings of "Palestinian animals" in public.

Apartheid and genocide, that's what you so vociferously support, America.


b-b-but Gods chosen people.... :/

So sick of the entire issue. If they didn't bankroll us, we would have already colonized them or threatened and sanctioned them into municipality status at best. The amount of times they've been busted stealing intel and influencing policy within the US government would have had any other citizen black bagged and executed or worse.

I say let them start their war and let them deal with it. They have absolutely zero in manufacturing or agriculture that we need right now. Let them fight their own war, wish them the best and close the farking door.
 
2012-08-22 08:47:52 PM  

pxlboy: Captain_Ballbeard: [cdn.theatlantic.com image 330x270]

Here are your "friends", America. A bunch of wild-eyed Middle Easterners using an ancient book as a real-estate deed and holding racist lynchings of "Palestinian animals" in public.

Apartheid and genocide, that's what you so vociferously support, America.

What's this "we" business? Not all of us.



And just as the world has not made the distinction between all Jews and the minority of historically evil ratfarkers in their midst when it's stomping time (200 times) - the whole world sees the USA as the enabler of the most racist, vile state to ever exist.
 
2012-08-22 08:48:13 PM  

jtown: 58 comments and not one IDF Girl pic.

[farm3.static.flickr.com image 640x480]


Let them go fight. Who gives a fark about some rat looking women they have slutting it up on a page? Seriously, are you that lonely that a girl wearing a stretched out T shirt can prevent you from recognizing that we're being dragged kicking and screaming into another farking war?

Sad.
 
2012-08-22 08:49:50 PM  
"Fight your own battles, angry confrontational friend," Crate exclaimed as he was cuffed and thrown down again for defying protocol when faced with authority. He was a bad officer. Always had been. Bad writer too.
 
2012-08-22 08:50:53 PM  

CygnusDarius: War has changed. It's no longer about nations, ideologies, or ethnicity.


UGH METAL GEAR!
 
2012-08-22 08:51:49 PM  

logistic: jtown: 58 comments and not one IDF Girl pic.

[farm3.static.flickr.com image 640x480]

Let them go fight. Who gives a fark about some rat looking women they have slutting it up on a page? Seriously, are you that lonely that a girl wearing a stretched out T shirt can prevent you from recognizing that we're being dragged kicking and screaming into another farking war?

Sad.


Agreed. fark their women and fark their war.
 
2012-08-22 08:51:53 PM  

Amigajoe: Anyone who tries to harm Israel will taste "the deadly strength of the IDF,"


I like onions.
 
2012-08-22 08:52:25 PM  

thatboyoverthere: CygnusDarius: War has changed. It's no longer about nations, ideologies, or ethnicity.

UGH METAL GEAR!


METAL GEAR?!?!
 
2012-08-22 08:52:35 PM  

Captain_Ballbeard: [cdn.theatlantic.com image 330x270]

Here are your "friends", America. A bunch of wild-eyed Middle Easterners using an ancient book as a real-estate deed and holding racist lynchings of "Palestinian animals" in public.

Apartheid and genocide, that's what you so vociferously support, America.


We've done it before, we'll do it again.

Throughout his presidency, Reagan supported the apartheid government in South Africa and even labeled Nelson Mandela's African National Congress a notorious terrorist organization
 
2012-08-22 08:53:06 PM  
Oh man, this shiat is tired. Hey israel does good shiat, does bad shiat, israels neighbours do incredibly bad shiat, but cant we just admit that Jews tend to be annoying?
 
2012-08-22 08:54:29 PM  

conjecture and hearsay: Jews tend to be annoying?


That's pretty defamatory. Are you some kind of anti-semite or something?
 
2012-08-22 08:55:53 PM  

ZMugg: Captain_Ballbeard: [cdn.theatlantic.com image 330x270]

Here are your "friends", America. A bunch of wild-eyed Middle Easterners using an ancient book as a real-estate deed and holding racist lynchings of "Palestinian animals" in public.

Apartheid and genocide, that's what you so vociferously support, America.

We've done it before, we'll do it again.

Throughout his presidency, Reagan supported the apartheid government in South Africa and even labeled Nelson Mandela's African National Congress a notorious terrorist organization



Curiously enough, the racist apartheid South African regime had only ONE friend left in the end, and it wasn't America - it was Israel. Picking up tips on proper livestock management techniques or just there to sell them nukes? Who knows.
 
2012-08-22 08:56:34 PM  
Like we still have a military.
 
2012-08-22 08:57:56 PM  

ZMugg: Throughout his presidency, Reagan supported the apartheid government in South Africa and even labeled Nelson Mandela's African National Congress a notorious terrorist organization


Swing and a miss...
 
2012-08-22 08:58:27 PM  

ZMugg: Captain_Ballbeard: [cdn.theatlantic.com image 330x270]

Here are your "friends", America. A bunch of wild-eyed Middle Easterners using an ancient book as a real-estate deed and holding racist lynchings of "Palestinian animals" in public.

Apartheid and genocide, that's what you so vociferously support, America.

We've done it before, we'll do it again.

Throughout his presidency, Reagan supported the apartheid government in South Africa and even labeled Nelson Mandela's African National Congress a notorious terrorist organization


At least we're predictable.
 
2012-08-22 08:58:53 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: conjecture and hearsay: Jews tend to be annoying?

That's pretty defamatory. Are you some kind of anti-semite or something?


Meh, lived in Montreal then new York. I am more anti- annoying.
 
2012-08-22 08:59:11 PM  
static.igossip.com
 
2012-08-22 09:00:10 PM  

conjecture and hearsay: AverageAmericanGuy: conjecture and hearsay: Jews tend to be annoying?

That's pretty defamatory. Are you some kind of anti-semite or something?

Meh, lived in Montreal then new York. I am more anti- annoying.


So, one of those self-loathing anti-semites?
 
2012-08-22 09:01:45 PM  

GammaTitan: RogermcAllen: gilgigamesh: Israel's Channel 10 News claimed on Monday night that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu "is determined to attack Iran before the US elections," and that Israel is now "closer than ever" to a strike designed to thwart Iran's nuclear drive.

The report added that Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak believe President Barack Obama would have no choice but to give backing for an Israeli attack before the US presidential elections in November.

/Not Subby

This sounds like bad news...
...for Romney.

You can't vote out a wartime president, that would be unpatriotic.

/why do Republicans hate America?

You can't vote out a wartime president, that would be unpatriotic.
Oh sure you can. I think it would be a huge mistake for him to back an attack on Iran. The 50% that think an attack is appropriate have no intention of voting for him in the first place. The other 50% would see him propping up the Israeli machine keeping the Palestine people down.

Of course, it's a no-win situation. If the Israeli's go in and lose, other allies will question our resolve to help with the chips are down. If they go in and win, other allies will question whether they need our help at all.

/why do Republicans hate America?
For the same reason Democrats do. They both hate the 50% of the country that doesn't completely agree with them.


I was being far less serious. In the 2004 election the Republicans made a big deal about re-electing Bush because they country wouldn't be able to handle a transition of power in a time of war.

You are right though, in this case I'm pretty sure everyone loses.
 
2012-08-22 09:03:18 PM  

Tarl3k: ZMugg: Throughout his presidency, Reagan supported the apartheid government in South Africa and even labeled Nelson Mandela's African National Congress a notorious terrorist organization

Swing and a miss...


What did I miss?
 
2012-08-22 09:04:15 PM  

gilgigamesh: Israel's Channel 10 News claimed on Monday night that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu "is determined to attack Iran before the US elections," and that Israel is now "closer than ever" to a strike designed to thwart Iran's nuclear drive.

The report added that Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak believe President Barack Obama would have no choice but to give backing for an Israeli attack before the US presidential elections in November.

/Not Subby


Netanyahu isn't a big reader of 538 I take it, should this be believed (not like this sabre rattlng hasn't panned out to be nothing numerous times in the past).
 
2012-08-22 09:04:56 PM  

ZMugg: Tarl3k: ZMugg: Throughout his presidency, Reagan supported the apartheid government in South Africa and even labeled Nelson Mandela's African National Congress a notorious terrorist organization

Swing and a miss...

What did I miss?


Something in your link went wonky, it goes to a 404 error when I click on it, heh heh
 
2012-08-22 09:06:19 PM  
Great, another libby subtard trolling thread informing us all that allies are not important unless it;s allies they approve of.
 
2012-08-22 09:07:07 PM  

Captain_Ballbeard: [bullshett that should have been left on Stormfront where all the other sister farkers already congregate.jpg


I thought the meme was "Obama doesn't suck Israel's dick enough to score the "Old Floridian Jewish retiree vote". Are you Teatards playing the "Obama is the weakest scariest mofo ever" bit again?
 
2012-08-22 09:07:08 PM  
The only winners in war are the dead, for they no longer have to put up with their leader's trivialities.
 
2012-08-22 09:08:05 PM  

Tarl3k: ZMugg: Tarl3k: ZMugg: Throughout his presidency, Reagan supported the apartheid government in South Africa and even labeled Nelson Mandela's African National Congress a notorious terrorist organization

Swing and a miss...

What did I miss?

Something in your link went wonky, it goes to a 404 error when I click on it, heh heh


Take 2

Extra characters in URL.

Sorry.
 
2012-08-22 09:08:15 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Great, another libby subtard trolling thread informing us all that allies are not important unless it;s allies they approve of.


Sort of like no democracy is a valid democracy unless it's one we approve of, right?
 
2012-08-22 09:10:33 PM  
Captain_Ballbeard
the most racist, vile state to ever exist.

there's no reason to go that far
 
2012-08-22 09:10:51 PM  
...and dairy derper deux has arrived
 
2012-08-22 09:10:57 PM  

Hobodeluxe: gilgigamesh: The report added that Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak believe President Barack Obama would have no choice but to give backing for an Israeli attack before the US presidential elections in November.

If I were the president this would piss me off and I'd tell Bibi that he was on his own.


....only if he wants to give the presidency to Mitt/Ryan on a silver platter come Nov.
 
2012-08-22 09:11:05 PM  
Why do you morons think Israel needs our help?

Why do liberals hate Israel for wanting to be safe? Iran dude just said some pretty awful things about Israel even existing, and you defend him?

Liberals are bad.
 
2012-08-22 09:11:26 PM  

Captain_Ballbeard: the most racist, vile state to ever exist


You really should brush up on your history or tone down the hyperbole. Briefly: Khmer Rouge; Belgian Congo; Japanese occupation of China; Armenian Genocide; etc. Israel is properly criticized but you just sound like a Stormfront loser with an agenda.

When you live in the worst neighborhood in the world and all your neighbors keep breaking in and lighting your house on fire chances are you are going to act irrationally from time to time.
 
2012-08-22 09:13:15 PM  

jtown: 58 comments and not one IDF Girl pic.

[farm3.static.flickr.com image 640x480]


ty! at least something useful in this thread.
 
2012-08-22 09:13:34 PM  

jtown: 58 comments and not one IDF Girl pic.


At least SOMEBODY has their priorities straight.
 
2012-08-22 09:16:24 PM  
www.democratic-republicans.us

Yay, America.
 
2012-08-22 09:17:59 PM  

logistic: jtown: 58 comments and not one IDF Girl pic.

[farm3.static.flickr.com image 640x480]

Let them go fight. Who gives a fark about some rat looking women they have slutting it up on a page? Seriously, are you that lonely that a girl wearing a stretched out T shirt can prevent you from recognizing that we're being dragged kicking and screaming into another farking war?

Sad.


Oh, you're just adorable. Will you be my friend?
 
2012-08-22 09:19:12 PM  
Come to think of it, for all we know, Iran has skittles.
 
2012-08-22 09:20:06 PM  
Well, it's pretty much what Romney promised Israel. No word on whether the "secret" meeting with MI6 covered the same topic. If he can get us into a war before even taking office, he'll have won his bet with Bush.
 
2012-08-22 09:21:23 PM  

gilgigamesh: Israel's Channel 10 News claimed on Monday night that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu "is determined to attack Iran before the US elections," and that Israel is now "closer than ever" to a strike designed to thwart Iran's nuclear drive.

The report added that Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak believe President Barack Obama would have no choice but to give backing for an Israeli attack before the US presidential elections in November.

/Not Subby


"Backing" probably wouldn't be military in nature, more likely political support, arms, and resupply.
 
2012-08-22 09:23:06 PM  

Thunderpipes: Why do you morons think Israel needs our help?

Why do liberals hate Israel for wanting to be safe? Iran dude just said some pretty awful things about Israel even existing, and you defend him?

Liberals are bad.


Yes, denouncing one nation's belligerant policies is exactly the same thing as supporting another nation who wants to destroy them.

Maybe we don't like EITHER ONE OF THEM, you ever consider that?
 
2012-08-22 09:23:19 PM  

Felgraf: thatboyoverthere: CygnusDarius: War has changed. It's no longer about nations, ideologies, or ethnicity.

UGH METAL GEAR!

METAL GEAR?!?!


BBBBRRROOOTHERR!!!

/We'll drag this thread in the 21st century!
 
2012-08-22 09:23:31 PM  

CygnusDarius: War has changed. It's no longer about nations, ideologies, or ethnicity. It's an endless series of proxy battles fought by mercenaries and machines. War - and its consumption of life - has become a well-oiled machine. War has changed. ID-tagged soldiers carry ID-tagged weapons, use ID-tagged gear. Nanomachines inside their bodies enhance and regulate their abilities. Genetic control. Information control. Emotion control. Battlefield control. Everything is monitored and kept under control. War has changed. The age of deterrence has become the age of control... All in the name of averting catastrophe from weapons of mass destruction. And he who controls the battlefield... controls history. War has changed. When the battlefield is under total control... War becomes routine.


Dude, you're twelve!
 
2012-08-22 09:23:34 PM  
Reads TFH...says WFT...*clicks on link*

Facepalm. Guys...GUYS!?

Did any of you even read TFA?* Benny's comments "at the annual memorial to the casualties of the Golani Brigade" are the equivalent of the US Army's 101st Screaming Eagles commanding general's comments every June 6th when they commemorate and remember the sacrifices of D-Day.

It was not a prelude to war.

Besides, have some of you guys even looked at a map? It's a thousand farking miles from Israel to Iran with two bloody-minded anti-Israeli armies in the way, and Israel has virtually no force projection capacity. The ONLY thing they could do is try an F-15 raid on the surface facilities, which would do nothing to Iran's nuclear program anyway.

In short, they'd love to have the US take out Iran, but they can not and will not do it themselves.

* - insert [areyounewhere?.jpg]
 
2012-08-22 09:23:39 PM  
Hitler was kinda right. Not a fan of the jews, but hate the israeli attitude. Sorry, life sucks. Deal.
 
2012-08-22 09:24:22 PM  

consider this: Fark sure does love to bash one of America's closest allies.


img442.imageshack.us
 
2012-08-22 09:28:41 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Maybe we don't like EITHER ONE OF THEM, you ever consider that?


No way. It's an entirely black & white world. You're either good or evil. Also, you have to pick sides. If two assholes want to rip each other to shreds, make a decision on who you think is a slightly lesser asshole, and you arm and fund the sh*t out of them. They will totally thank you for it and always act in our best national interests in the future. Trust me.
 
2012-08-22 09:31:23 PM  

ZMugg: Captain_Ballbeard: [cdn.theatlantic.com image 330x270]

Here are your "friends", America. A bunch of wild-eyed Middle Easterners using an ancient book as a real-estate deed and holding racist lynchings of "Palestinian animals" in public.

Apartheid and genocide, that's what you so vociferously support, America.

We've done it before, we'll do it again.

Throughout his presidency, Reagan supported the apartheid government in South Africa and even labeled Nelson Mandela's African National Congress a notorious terrorist organization


Winnie Mandella, his wife at the time and an active player in the ANC, supported Necklacing vocally and adamantly. Necklacing is the practice of stuffing somebody in a diesel filled tire and lighting them on fire. It was intended to terrify their opponents, both military and civilian. Also, the ANC had alliances with Marxist groups, and America was still in the midst of the cold war. Boom, terrorist commie revolutionaries. I'm not saying it's an accurate characterization, but I can see how it was made.
 
2012-08-22 09:32:38 PM  

gorbishof: Hitler was kinda right. Not a fan of the jews, but hate the israeli attitude. Sorry, life sucks. Deal.


Did you just say that?
*re-reads*
Yes, you did. You really, really did.

I hope you were trolling.
 
2012-08-22 09:32:51 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Great, another libby subtard trolling thread informing us all that allies are not important unless it;s allies they approve of.

Sort of like no democracy is a valid democracy unless it's one we approve of, right?


You do realize of course that there are duly elected democracies in this world that hate us, would gladly kill all of us and shiat on your grave? Right? Of course you did. Moran.
 
2012-08-22 09:33:23 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Great, another libby subtard trolling thread informing us all that allies are not important unless it;s allies they approve of.


Lung cancer is "important". That doesn't make it desirable.
 
2012-08-22 09:34:39 PM  

chaosweaver: Amigajoe: Anyone who tries to harm Israel will taste "the deadly strength of the IDF,"

I like onions.


LOL
 
2012-08-22 09:35:03 PM  

Indubitably: Look, I never told otherwise: I am a douchebag scripted by space and influence, however limited by the size of my balls...

Mind secludes.


Whenever you post, this is who I picture:

i.telegraph.co.uk
 
2012-08-22 09:35:26 PM  
My insider people tell me October 1st is Go Time.
 
2012-08-22 09:35:36 PM  

jso2897: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Great, another libby subtard trolling thread informing us all that allies are not important unless it;s allies they approve of.

Lung cancer is "important". That doesn't make it desirable.


Ass.

Planet.

;)

P.S. Politics are retarded.
 
2012-08-22 09:36:20 PM  

spamdog: Indubitably: Look, I never told otherwise: I am a douchebag scripted by space and influence, however limited by the size of my balls...

Mind secludes.

Whenever you post, this is who I picture:

[i.telegraph.co.uk image 620x388]


Well, that says more about you than me, actually, so there's that.
 
2012-08-22 09:37:17 PM  
I got some groceries, some peanut butter, to last a couple of days.
 
2012-08-22 09:38:33 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Gyrfalcon: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Great, another libby subtard trolling thread informing us all that allies are not important unless it;s allies they approve of.

Sort of like no democracy is a valid democracy unless it's one we approve of, right?

You do realize of course that there are duly elected democracies in this world that hate us, would gladly kill all of us and shiat on your grave? Right? Of course you did. Moran.


Does that make them any less valid as democracies? No?
 
2012-08-22 09:41:20 PM  

gilgigamesh: Israel's Channel 10 News claimed on Monday night that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu "is determined to attack Iran before the US elections," and that Israel is now "closer than ever" to a strike designed to thwart Iran's nuclear drive.

The report added that Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak believe President Barack Obama would have no choice but to give backing for an Israeli attack before the US presidential elections in November.

/Not Subby


why before the election.. if romney is elected or if obama retains the world championship, both would support israel..
 
2012-08-22 09:41:56 PM  
Would like a word:
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-08-22 09:42:02 PM  

Linkster: CygnusDarius: War has changed. It's no longer about nations, ideologies, or ethnicity. It's an endless series of proxy battles fought by mercenaries and machines. War - and its consumption of life - has become a well-oiled machine. War has changed. ID-tagged soldiers carry ID-tagged weapons, use ID-tagged gear. Nanomachines inside their bodies enhance and regulate their abilities. Genetic control. Information control. Emotion control. Battlefield control. Everything is monitored and kept under control. War has changed. The age of deterrence has become the age of control... All in the name of averting catastrophe from weapons of mass destruction. And he who controls the battlefield... controls history. War has changed. When the battlefield is under total control... War becomes routine.

Dude, you're twelve!


Twelve what?.
 
2012-08-22 09:42:22 PM  

ontariolightning: gilgigamesh: Israel's Channel 10 News claimed on Monday night that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu "is determined to attack Iran before the US elections," and that Israel is now "closer than ever" to a strike designed to thwart Iran's nuclear drive.

The report added that Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak believe President Barack Obama would have no choice but to give backing for an Israeli attack before the US presidential elections in November.

/Not Subby

why before the election.. if romney is elected or if obama retains the world championship, both would support israel..


Not for long...
 
2012-08-22 09:45:07 PM  

Indubitably: ontariolightning: gilgigamesh: Israel's Channel 10 News claimed on Monday night that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu "is determined to attack Iran before the US elections," and that Israel is now "closer than ever" to a strike designed to thwart Iran's nuclear drive.

The report added that Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak believe President Barack Obama would have no choice but to give backing for an Israeli attack before the US presidential elections in November.

/Not Subby

why before the election.. if romney is elected or if obama retains the world championship, both would support israel..

Not for long...


what do you mean? obama is a war monger too
look what he's been doing in pakistan
 
2012-08-22 09:46:58 PM  
Now now, children, there's enough sand in the sandy box for both of you. Play nice or we'll take away your OS.
 
2012-08-22 09:48:16 PM  

ontariolightning: if romney is elected or if obama retains the world championship, both would support israel.


Except, you know, Obama has said he won't take America to war again, especially not over that.
 
2012-08-22 09:50:43 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: ontariolightning: if romney is elected or if obama retains the world championship, both would support israel.

Except, you know, Obama has said he won't take America to war again, especially not over that.


Obama is a liar
 
2012-08-22 09:51:48 PM  

StoneColdAtheist: Reads TFH...says WFT...*clicks on link*

Facepalm. Guys...GUYS!?

Did any of you even read TFA?* Benny's comments "at the annual memorial to the casualties of the Golani Brigade" are the equivalent of the US Army's 101st Screaming Eagles commanding general's comments every June 6th when they commemorate and remember the sacrifices of D-Day.

It was not a prelude to war.

Besides, have some of you guys even looked at a map? It's a thousand farking miles from Israel to Iran with two bloody-minded anti-Israeli armies in the way, and Israel has virtually no force projection capacity. The ONLY thing they could do is try an F-15 raid on the surface facilities, which would do nothing to Iran's nuclear program anyway.

In short, they'd love to have the US take out Iran, but they can not and will not do it themselves.

* - insert [areyounewhere?.jpg]


Crack that Nuke
Give Iran a slip
Step on a crack
Break your momma's back

When a problem comes along
You must Nuke it
Before the cream sets out too long
You must Nuke it
When something's goin' wrong
You must Nuke it

Now whip it Into shape
Shape it up
Get straight
Go forward
Move ahead

Try to radiate it
It's not too late
To Nuke it
Nuke it good

When a good time turns around
You must Nuke it
You will never live it down
Unless you Nuke it
No one gets away
Until they Nuke it

I say Nuke it
Nuke it good
I say Nuke it
Nuke it good

Crack that Nuke
Give Iran a slip

Step on a crack Break ImadinnerJacket's back
When a problem comes along
You must Nuke it
Before the cream sets out too long
You must Nuke it
When something's goin' wrong

You must Nuke it
Now Nuke it
Into Hell
Shape it up
Get straight
Go forward
Move ahead
Try to radiate it
It's not too late
To Nuke it Into shape
Shape it up
Get straight
Go forward
Move ahead
Try to radiate it
It's not too late
To Nuke it
Well, Nuke it good
 
2012-08-22 09:53:29 PM  
I don't see any Iran/Israel - USA war in the future

This has been going on for years

Never happening
 
2012-08-22 09:54:56 PM  

Linkster: StoneColdAtheist: Reads TFH...says WFT...*clicks on link*

Facepalm. Guys...GUYS!?

Did any of you even read TFA?* Benny's comments "at the annual memorial to the casualties of the Golani Brigade" are the equivalent of the US Army's 101st Screaming Eagles commanding general's comments every June 6th when they commemorate and remember the sacrifices of D-Day.

It was not a prelude to war.

Besides, have some of you guys even looked at a map? It's a thousand farking miles from Israel to Iran with two bloody-minded anti-Israeli armies in the way, and Israel has virtually no force projection capacity. The ONLY thing they could do is try an F-15 raid on the surface facilities, which would do nothing to Iran's nuclear program anyway.

In short, they'd love to have the US take out Iran, but they can not and will not do it themselves.

* - insert [areyounewhere?.jpg]

Crack that Nuke
Give Iran a slip
Step on a crack
Break your momma's back

When a problem comes along
You must Nuke it
Before the cream sets out too long
You must Nuke it
When something's goin' wrong
You must Nuke it

Now whip it Into shape
Shape it up
Get straight
Go forward
Move ahead

Try to radiate it
It's not too late
To Nuke it
Nuke it good

When a good time turns around
You must Nuke it
You will never live it down
Unless you Nuke it
No one gets away
Until they Nuke it

I say Nuke it
Nuke it good
I say Nuke it
Nuke it good

Crack that Nuke
Give Iran a slip

Step on a crack Break ImadinnerJacket's back
When a problem comes along
You must Nuke it
Before the cream sets out too long
You must Nuke it
When something's goin' wrong

You must Nuke it
Now Nuke it
Into Hell
Shape it up
Get straight
Go forward
Move ahead
Try to radiate it
It's not too late
To Nuke it Into shape
Shape it up
Get straight
Go forward
Move ahead
Try to radiate it
It's not too late
To Nuke it
Well, Nuke it good


You jerk.

Now I'm going have that damn song stuck in head.
 
2012-08-22 09:58:52 PM  

jjorsett: gilgigamesh: Israel's Channel 10 News claimed on Monday night that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu "is determined to attack Iran before the US elections," and that Israel is now "closer than ever" to a strike designed to thwart Iran's nuclear drive.

The report added that Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak believe President Barack Obama would have no choice but to give backing for an Israeli attack before the US presidential elections in November.

/Not Subby

"Backing" probably wouldn't be military in nature, more likely political support, arms, and resupply.


No, sorry. IDF have limited ability to strike deep into Iran, so we would get to do that bit. And our boats in the Strait would come under fire, so yeah. We'd be in the thick of it.
 
2012-08-22 09:59:48 PM  

ontariolightning: cameroncrazy1984: ontariolightning: if romney is elected or if obama retains the world championship, both would support israel.

Except, you know, Obama has said he won't take America to war again, especially not over that.

Obama is a liar


Yeah, way to show me!
 
2012-08-22 10:02:09 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: ontariolightning: cameroncrazy1984: ontariolightning: if romney is elected or if obama retains the world championship, both would support israel.

Except, you know, Obama has said he won't take America to war again, especially not over that.

Obama is a liar

Yeah, way to show me!


American public will eat the reasons up. They're the most naive people on this side of the world
 
2012-08-22 10:02:31 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: ontariolightning: cameroncrazy1984: ontariolightning: if romney is elected or if obama retains the world championship, both would support israel.

Except, you know, Obama has said he won't take America to war again, especially not over that.

Obama is a liar

Yeah, way to show me!


Well, he did tell me I was special.
 
2012-08-22 10:04:19 PM  

Evil High Priest: jjorsett: gilgigamesh: Israel's Channel 10 News claimed on Monday night that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu "is determined to attack Iran before the US elections," and that Israel is now "closer than ever" to a strike designed to thwart Iran's nuclear drive.

The report added that Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak believe President Barack Obama would have no choice but to give backing for an Israeli attack before the US presidential elections in November.

/Not Subby

"Backing" probably wouldn't be military in nature, more likely political support, arms, and resupply.

No, sorry. IDF have limited ability to strike deep into Iran, so we would get to do that bit. And our boats in the Strait would come under fire, so yeah. We'd be in the thick of it.


I think they have it covered.

Link
 
2012-08-22 10:11:14 PM  

gilgigamesh: Israel's Channel 10 News claimed on Monday night that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu "is determined to attack Iran before the US elections," and that Israel is now "closer than ever" to a strike designed to thwart Iran's nuclear drive.

The report added that Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak believe President Barack Obama would have no choice but to give backing for an Israeli attack before the US presidential elections in November.

/Not Subby


Talk about a rogue nation.
 
2012-08-22 10:11:21 PM  

GAT_00: Pocket Ninja: RoyBatty: Seems like a huge gulf between that and the headline.

Really? Seemed pretty farking dead on to me.

It's a helluva lot easier to stand up to Biff the playground bully when you've got Rick the linebacker standing behind you.

Now, now, this is very interesting. This is someone who apparently can only read literal statements, he has no ability to determine nuance. It's very interesting. It's like talking to a North Korean diplomat.

Also I have him Farkied as being a possible alt to You Know Who in these kind of threads, based on comment history.


Rally, because I have your dumb ass as

GAT_00 [TotalFark]
(favorite: [anti-Semite])

Because it fits, asshole.
 
2012-08-22 10:16:12 PM  
I'm just curious as to why they think Obama would *have* to back their attack before the elections as opposed to say once he's won, or why they think they wouldn't have more traction with a newly elected Romney? Seriously, do they think backing or not backing an attack against Iran would be a deal breaker for the US electorate?
 
2012-08-22 10:17:55 PM  
Well, I see the anti-semite label has been thrown around, and a random picture of female IDF soldiers has been posted, so this is almost an official Israeli thread on Fark. Just need a certain someone to show up and say hi. Damn it, let me try and page him.
 
2012-08-22 10:18:09 PM  

chaosweaver: Now now, children, there's enough sand in the sandy box for both of you. Play nice or we'll take away your OS.


just gonna repost this because there are entirely too many sandy boxes in this thread.
 
2012-08-22 10:19:36 PM  

Kittypie070: chaosweaver 2012-08-22 08:27:20 PM

Kittypie070: AverageAmericanGuy 2012-08-22 08:11:28 PM

[toddler-level stupidity]

Go eat your soy-basted bowl of dry-fried roaches elsewhere and fark off.

I think someone needs his sarcasm detector calibrated.

The dudes and dudettes at JPL are farkin' busy.
They aren't gonna tend to non-important cat sh*t at a time like this.

I gotta adjust the thing myself and it squonks every time I get a jeweller's screwdriver near it.


Use a hammer, then. It won't complain about a jeweler's screwdriver if you give it a little hammer love.
 
2012-08-22 10:22:20 PM  
all the israelis have to do is give up their nukes...and we're good.

problem solved.
 
2012-08-22 10:23:29 PM  

dr_blasto: Kittypie070: chaosweaver 2012-08-22 08:27:20 PM

Kittypie070: AverageAmericanGuy 2012-08-22 08:11:28 PM

[toddler-level stupidity]

Go eat your soy-basted bowl of dry-fried roaches elsewhere and fark off.

I think someone needs his sarcasm detector calibrated.

The dudes and dudettes at JPL are farkin' busy.
They aren't gonna tend to non-important cat sh*t at a time like this.

I gotta adjust the thing myself and it squonks every time I get a jeweller's screwdriver near it.

Use a hammer, then. It won't complain about a jeweler's screwdriver if you give it a little hammer love.


Whoa whoa whoa! What are you doing? That's not a hammer!

/The hammer is my penis
 
2012-08-22 10:28:04 PM  
Nuke the site from orbit.
 
2012-08-22 10:29:20 PM  
Hey Israel. We're not going to start WWIII for you.

You can do it yourself, or you can just not do it, but but we're not intererested in your mudfights with you neighbors.

It's 2012.

Grow up already.
 
2012-08-22 10:29:38 PM  

consider this: List of Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel, 2012


Who gives a shiat? Israel kills more innocent civilians than it loses. The fact that they do it with more advanced weapons doesn't give them the moral high ground.
 
2012-08-22 10:30:27 PM  

Thunderpipes: Why do you morons think Israel needs our help?

Why do liberals hate Israel for wanting to be safe? Iran dude just said some pretty awful things about Israel even existing, and you defend him?

Liberals are bad.


Iran-dude says something awful about Israel every week, sometimes twice on Tuesdays-if he's feeling charitable that day, he only thinks they should be wiped off the map. Oddly, Iran has been six farking months from having the bomb for the last twenty goddamn years. Seems like containment works fine. If Israel wants to bomb the shiat outta the Persians, that is on them and we should say "good luck" at best.
 
2012-08-22 10:32:38 PM  

Indubitably: jso2897: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Great, another libby subtard trolling thread informing us all that allies are not important unless it;s allies they approve of.

Lung cancer is "important". That doesn't make it desirable.

Ass.

Planet.

;)

P.S. Politics are retarded.


So I GISed "ass planet".
Got a whole lot of ass, and not much planet.
 
2012-08-22 10:32:45 PM  

CygnusDarius: War has changed. It's no longer about nations, ideologies, or ethnicity. It's an endless series of proxy battles fought by mercenaries and machines.


No. War, war never changes.
 
2012-08-22 10:32:56 PM  

Captain_Ballbeard: [cdn.theatlantic.com image 330x270]

Here are your "friends", America. A bunch of wild-eyed Middle Easterners using an ancient book as a real-estate deed and holding racist lynchings of "Palestinian animals" in public.

Apartheid and genocide, that's what you so vociferously support, America.


Seems there are wild-eyed people using ancient books as real-estate deeds on both sides.

You mention apartheid and genocide. If the US withdrew all support for Israel today, do you think that "apartheid and genocide" would have a future in the Middle East? You have to admit, people in leadership positions from the Palestinians to the Saudis to the Egyptians to the Iranians openly talk about how they'd love for that to happen to the Jews (when they aren't telling people that Jews drink babies' blood).

If that happened- an attack on Israel- would you say we should do nothing to help them as the people around them sought to do this to them?
 
2012-08-22 10:35:22 PM  

CanisNoir: I'm just curious as to why they think Obama would *have* to back their attack before the elections as opposed to say once he's won, or why they think they wouldn't have more traction with a newly elected Romney? Seriously, do they think backing or not backing an attack against Iran would be a deal breaker for the US electorate?


There are a LOT of rich rich folks who have been trying to steer us into Armageddon. They require that Israel fight a major war. They pump a lot of money into Israel, trying to manipulate them and shutting down nay-sayers as "anti-semites."

I'm convinced that if the US government doesn't jump in, there will be a major uprising here in the States. For a lot of people this is a religious obligation to trigger the Second Coming.

\Some people just want to see the world burn
\\many others want to light the fuse themselves
 
2012-08-22 10:42:04 PM  

Killer Cars: Gyrfalcon: Maybe we don't like EITHER ONE OF THEM, you ever consider that?

No way. It's an entirely black & white world. You're either good or evil. Also, you have to pick sides. If two assholes want to rip each other to shreds, make a decision on who you think is a slightly lesser asshole, and you arm and fund the sh*t out of them. They will totally thank you for it and always act in our best national interests in the future. Trust me.


This sounds an awful lot like US electoral politics.
 
2012-08-22 10:42:25 PM  

Linkster:

Crack that Nuke
Give Iran a slip
Step on a crack
Break your momma's back

When a problem comes along
You must Nuke it
Before the cream sets out too long
You must Nuke it
When something's goin' wrong
You must Nuke it

Now whip it Into shape
Shape it up
Get straight
Go forward
Move ahead

Try to radiate it
It's not too late
To Nuke it
Nuke it good

When a good time turns around
You must Nuke it
You will never live it down
Unless you Nuke it
No one gets away
Until they Nuke it

I say Nuke it
Nuke it good
I say Nuke it
Nuke it good

Crack that Nuke
Give Iran a slip

Step on a crack Break ImadinnerJacket's back
When a problem comes along
You must Nuke it
Before the cream sets out too long
You must Nuke it
When something's goin' wrong

You must Nuke it
Now Nuke it
Into Hell
Shape it up
Get straight
Go forward
Move ahead
Try to radiate it
It's not too late
To Nuke it Into shape
Shape it up
Get straight
Go forward
Move ahead
Try to radiate it
It's not too late
To Nuke it
Well, Nuke it good


Odd. I really want to microwave a burrito right now.

BRB.
 
2012-08-22 10:42:36 PM  

BolloxReader: CanisNoir: I'm just curious as to why they think Obama would *have* to back their attack before the elections as opposed to say once he's won, or why they think they wouldn't have more traction with a newly elected Romney? Seriously, do they think backing or not backing an attack against Iran would be a deal breaker for the US electorate?

There are a LOT of rich rich folks who have been trying to steer us into Armageddon. They require that Israel fight a major war. They pump a lot of money into Israel, trying to manipulate them and shutting down nay-sayers as "anti-semites."

I'm convinced that if the US government doesn't jump in, there will be a major uprising here in the States. For a lot of people this is a religious obligation to trigger the Second Coming.

\Some people just want to see the world burn
\\many others want to light the fuse themselves


Zionists believe they need to fulfill biblical prophecy to have Jesus come back. They are tired of waiting, which is why the settlements continue to be built in the West Bank.

Also:

i.imgur.com
 
2012-08-22 10:43:52 PM  
I love how Fark Anti-Semite Libs think that poor weak mean Israel only exists with America's support through somehow magically manipulating our chaotic electoral system.

Did it ever occur to you jew haters that all America does is try to get Israel to hold back?

They wouldn't fall without us. They'd wipe their neighbors and Iran out.

/you can thank the French for giving them 200+ nukes
 
2012-08-22 10:45:36 PM  

BolloxReader: I'm convinced that if the US government doesn't jump in, there will be a major uprising here in the States


Israel hits Iran, Russia hits Israel. Congress declares war, Obama opposes.......Impeachment and Civil War 2.0.



/China hits the weakened winner of the US v Russia bracket
 
2012-08-22 10:47:37 PM  
Oh look antisemitism on FARK what a shock.

// subby and green-lighter congrats on your goose-stepping.
 
2012-08-22 10:48:26 PM  
You know what's a crime against humanity? This thread, holy f*ck it's all over the place
 
2012-08-22 10:49:00 PM  
Israel was the right idea in the wrong area code.
 
2012-08-22 10:49:17 PM  
BLAME IT ON THE JEWS.

/oh wait, that might be factually correct
 
2012-08-22 10:49:23 PM  
Oh, and I want to point out that all of this could have been avoided if Great Britain had granted the Palestinians independence following WWI as had been promised in exchange for rising up against the Ottomans. Then nobody would have been able to establish Israel by kicking out natives and turning them into refugees and pissing off everyone else.

But no, developed countries just can't keep their promises once a crisis is passed. This is what happens when you fark a stranger in the ass. Karma is a biatch.
 
2012-08-22 10:49:55 PM  

gilgigamesh: The report added that Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak believe President Barack Obama would have no choice but to give backing for an Israeli attack before the US presidential elections in November.


Netanyahu is full of shiat and he's trying to influence the presidential candidates. Bibi has treated Obama like a political enemy from day one, Obama would love the opportunity to pay him back. Were Bibi to attack. Obama would hang Netanyahu out to dry and smile while doing it. He'd let him go it alone, he'd let him fail alone, and fail he would. Obama would ensure the bomb damage assessment reports were released proving just how ineffective Israel's attacks had been.

That's Israel's problem, they can't make a serious dent in Iran's deeply buried program without the US carrying nearly all the load. The Pentagon estimates it would take a a few weeks of US air power to put a serious dent in Iran's deeply buried underground assets. Israel has less than 5% of our air assets and they have no aircraft carriers.

This means Israel would have to send their air forces over unfriendly territory for a month or longer, just to reach Iran. Not just fighters, but mid-air refuelers. A continuous air war flying over either Saudi Arabia, Iraq, or Turkey.

Option 1. Iraq. Iraq has no meaningful air force, but their government would threaten to kick the US completely out of the country in favor of the Russians or Chinese if we didn't quickly stop Israeli overflights. Our oil industry won't want us kicked out, Obama won't want us kicked out, hell, every single veteran of the Iraq war won't want us diplomatically booted from Iraq. With the backing of the Russians or Chinese, Israel would have to stop the overflights. Obama cannot allow the Russians or Chinese to take over our role in Iraq, so Obama would have to stop the overflights. That might give Israel a week, no longer.

Option 2. Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia's leadership wouldn't mind one bit were Israel to blow the fark out of Iran's nuclear program, but the populace would start tearing down the palace walls without 72 hours if the overflights didn't cease. At most, Israel would get a week, but I doubt they'd get that long. Given the possibility that tacitly allowing such overflights could initiate a Saudi Arab Spring, they may not get a minute. The Saudi's can definitely protect their own air space, they also have a defense pact with the US.

Option 3. Turkey. Turkey would shoot down their planes and call in NATO article 5. All NATO members would be forced to stop the Israeli overflights. Israel knows this, their relations with Turkey are already in the dumper because Netanyahu is a wack-job. Israel wouldn't dare Turkish overflights.

Option 4. Georgia. Georgia was considering allowing them have basing rights, but that was before they tangled with Russia. Since it would require overflights of Azerbaijan or Russia, that has to be completely off the table now.

Option 5. Fly around Saudi Arabia through the Red Sea and Indian Ocean. It's a 7,000 mile round trip. It might work for a "30 seconds over Tokyo" sort of raid. A raid that would shake up Iran but do no real damage. The distance is too long for any meaningful number sorties to be sent. Unless Israel has been hiding an aircraft carrier (un farking possible) they lack both the technical and political means to accomplish this mission.

Add all this up and it becomes very clear that Israel is completely full of shiat. They know they don't have the means to dent Iran's ambitions. We know they don't have the means, Iran knows they don't have the means. They can only put a tiny dent in Iran's nuclear program. An attack so meaningless would probably just speed up development by shutting out IAEA inspectors.
 
2012-08-22 10:51:44 PM  

Killer Cars: Gyrfalcon: Maybe we don't like EITHER ONE OF THEM, you ever consider that?

No way. It's an entirely black & white world. You're either good or evil. Also, you have to pick sides. If two assholes want to rip each other to shreds, make a decision on who you think is a slightly lesser asshole, and you arm and fund the sh*t out of them. They will totally thank you for it and always act in our best national interests in the future. Trust me.


Damn, I always forget that. Thanks for the reminder! ;)
 
2012-08-22 10:52:14 PM  

ciberido: CygnusDarius: War has changed. It's no longer about nations, ideologies, or ethnicity. It's an endless series of proxy battles fought by mercenaries and machines.

No. War, war never changes.


B-b-but nanomachines!.

/But really
//Fallout > MGS
 
2012-08-22 10:52:16 PM  

MooseUpNorth: Just sayin': it's hard for me to take seriously a General officer named "Benny".


I imagine Yakety Sax playing in the background.
 
2012-08-22 10:52:56 PM  

consider this: Evil High Priest: No, sorry. IDF have limited ability to strike deep into Iran,

Just 150 advanced fighters and a shiatload of ballistic missiles.


How's their long-range refueling capability? The sites they want (us) to attack are deep underground and quite a long way off. Personally, I'd love it if we told them right now, this is your deal. You want to attack them? Fine, but we're not getting involved. When your fighters leave base, our boats are out of here. But that's not realistic. We've stated publicly that we will do whatever it takes to keep the straight open for oil shipping business. So there we are, getting shot at.
 
2012-08-22 10:53:19 PM  

beta_plus: I love how Fark Anti-Semite Libs think that poor weak mean Israel only exists with America's support through somehow magically manipulating our chaotic electoral system.

Did it ever occur to you jew haters that all America does is try to get Israel to hold back?

They wouldn't fall without us. They'd wipe their neighbors and Iran out.

/you can thank the French for giving them 200+ nukes


How much military aid do we supply Israel with annually? Are you so incredibly stupid that you think they could sustain their own military-industrial-complex on their GDP?

Clearly, though, you think that calling out Israel for being assholes when they're, you know, actually being assholes about something is anti-semitic.

You know, you seem to think so little of our Jewish friends in the middle east that you believe they can't take even a little constructive criticism. Maybe you're the anti-semite. Are you one of those end of the world god-botherer types that's praying for the destruction of Israel to bring you to the End Times? Maybe this is more of your stupid "MY TEAM RIGHT OR WRONG" politics.

Maybe you've succumbed to some kind of TBI and I'm just picking on a disabled person who isn't in full control of their faculties. I guess that'd make me the dick.

Which is it, beta_plus?
 
2012-08-22 10:54:38 PM  

Captain_Ballbeard: [www.democratic-republicans.us image 450x322]

Yay, America.


Yay Palestinian Statehood

www.lightofzion.org

/amidoinitrite
 
2012-08-22 10:58:24 PM  

studebaker hoch: Israel was the right idea in the wrong area code.


I think Oklahoma would have been better. Or one of the Dakotas. Who's using them anyway? Britain used to have this adorable idiosyncrasy where they would set up countries in their wake that they absolutely knew would be unstable. Israel is one of their finer works. Pakistan is a close second.
 
2012-08-22 10:59:42 PM  

consider this: Trapper439: Who gives a shiat? Israel kills more innocent civilians than it loses.

So now Israel is targeting civilians? Sorry pal, it's the cocksucking terrorists that you support that do that.


It doesn't matter whether they're "targeting" civilians or just seeing them as "collateral damage", Israel kills more innocents than it loses while perpetually playing the victim card.

And I don't support either side. As far as I'm concerned the whole farking middle east should be cordoned off and left to its own devices. Think "Escape from New York", but with bigger douchebags.
 
2012-08-22 11:00:45 PM  

BolloxReader: Oh, and I want to point out that all of this could have been avoided if Great Britain had granted the Palestinians independence following WWI as had been promised in exchange for rising up against the Ottomans. Then nobody would have been able to establish Israel by kicking out natives and turning them into refugees and pissing off everyone else.

But no, developed countries just can't keep their promises once a crisis is passed. This is what happens when you fark a stranger in the ass. Karma is a biatch.


I thought all the Jews got shipped to New York, New Jersey and Boca Raton/Boynton Beach?

Oh that's right, "Little Israel"
 
2012-08-22 11:05:34 PM  

Trapper439: consider this: Trapper439: Who gives a shiat? Israel kills more innocent civilians than it loses.

So now Israel is targeting civilians? Sorry pal, it's the cocksucking terrorists that you support that do that.

It doesn't matter whether they're "targeting" civilians or just seeing them as "collateral damage", Israel kills more innocents than it loses while perpetually playing the victim card.

And I don't support either side. As far as I'm concerned the whole farking middle east should be cordoned off and left to its own devices. Think "Escape from New York", but with bigger douchebags.


Which is worse:
Indifferent attitude to the slaughter of civilians, including women and children, through the deployment and use of modern, highly efficient weapons with highly accurate targeting and control systems

Intentional murder and slaughter of civilians, including women and children, through the use of home made uncontrollable rockets that, when fired, cannot be controlled and have no targeting systems.
 
2012-08-22 11:08:31 PM  

dr_blasto: Trapper439: consider this: Trapper439: Who gives a shiat? Israel kills more innocent civilians than it loses.

So now Israel is targeting civilians? Sorry pal, it's the cocksucking terrorists that you support that do that.

It doesn't matter whether they're "targeting" civilians or just seeing them as "collateral damage", Israel kills more innocents than it loses while perpetually playing the victim card.

And I don't support either side. As far as I'm concerned the whole farking middle east should be cordoned off and left to its own devices. Think "Escape from New York", but with bigger douchebags.

Which is worse:
Indifferent attitude to the slaughter of civilians, including women and children, through the deployment and use of modern, highly efficient weapons with highly accurate targeting and control systems

Intentional murder and slaughter of civilians, including women and children, through the use of home made uncontrollable rockets that, when fired, cannot be controlled and have no targeting systems.


Indifferent attitude.
 
2012-08-22 11:12:35 PM  

studebaker hoch: Israel was the right idea in the wrong area code.


I heard that one of the early proposals for a Jewish nation-state after ww2 was Baja California. Just what i heard, though.
 
2012-08-22 11:15:51 PM  
congrats on a 100th greenlight baby! :)
 
2012-08-22 11:19:49 PM  

consider this: It's totally Israels fault that the terrorists launch their rockets from the middle of neighborhoods and mosques. They also shouldn't respond to the 9,000 or so rocket attacks in the past 10 years since they only kill somebody once in a while.


This is good. Let's all just commit to solving this whole Israel-All their neighbors thing tonight. Who's with me?

Eventually, they will try to kill each other, again. I'd rather we didn't have to throw our people into that meat grinder.
 
2012-08-22 11:20:35 PM  

consider this: It's totally Israels fault that the terrorists launch their rockets from the middle of neighborhoods and mosques. They also shouldn't respond to the 9,000 or so rocket attacks in the past 10 years since they only kill somebody once in a while.


So, should the Palestinians just shut up and accept their lot in life, which appears to be non-citizens of an occupied territory? Should they struggle against the paradigm?

WTF would you do if you found yourself displaced from your home, forced to live in a camp or burnt out city with only limited resources in the form of water or power and no lawful travel rights?

I'm not advocating rocket attacks on civilians. I think that's horrendous, but the world the Palestinians are forced to accept is also horrendous.
 
2012-08-22 11:27:04 PM  

dr_blasto: Which is worse:
Indifferent attitude to the slaughter of civilians, including women and children, through the deployment and use of modern, highly efficient weapons with highly accurate targeting and control systems

Intentional murder and slaughter of civilians, including women and children, through the use of home made uncontrollable rockets that, when fired, cannot be controlled and have no targeting systems.


Neither. Both are inexcusable. Who's killing more innocents, though? Again, the fact that Israel has better killing technologies doesn't mean that they're in the right. The killers on both sides are nasty little small minded coonts who represent the worst of humanity. Israel just bangs on more about its actions being morally justified. They're not.
 
2012-08-22 11:27:44 PM  

Sock Ruh Tease: RoyBatty: gilgigamesh: Israel's Channel 10 News claimed on Monday night that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu "is determined to attack Iran before the US elections," and that Israel is now "closer than ever" to a strike designed to thwart Iran's nuclear drive.

The report added that Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak believe President Barack Obama would have no choice but to give backing for an Israeli attack before the US presidential elections in November.

/Not Subby

Seems like a huge gulf between that and the headline.

Israel knows which side its bread is buttered on and will not jump until given express permission to do so. Same as it ever was.


Sure.
 
2012-08-22 11:28:13 PM  

ciberido: CygnusDarius: War has changed. It's no longer about nations, ideologies, or ethnicity. It's an endless series of proxy battles fought by mercenaries and machines.

No. War, war never changes.


Came to say this.

www.themidnightcafe.com
 
2012-08-22 11:31:03 PM  

dr_blasto: beta_plus: I love how Fark Anti-Semite Libs think that poor weak mean Israel only exists with America's support through somehow magically manipulating our chaotic electoral system.

Did it ever occur to you jew haters that all America does is try to get Israel to hold back?

They wouldn't fall without us. They'd wipe their neighbors and Iran out.

/you can thank the French for giving them 200+ nukes

How much military aid do we supply Israel with annually? Are you so incredibly stupid that you think they could sustain their own military-industrial-complex on their GDP?

Clearly, though, you think that calling out Israel for being assholes when they're, you know, actually being assholes about something is anti-semitic.

You know, you seem to think so little of our Jewish friends in the middle east that you believe they can't take even a little constructive criticism. Maybe you're the anti-semite. Are you one of those end of the world god-botherer types that's praying for the destruction of Israel to bring you to the End Times? Maybe this is more of your stupid "MY TEAM RIGHT OR WRONG" politics.

Maybe you've succumbed to some kind of TBI and I'm just picking on a disabled person who isn't in full control of their faculties. I guess that'd make me the dick.

Which is it, beta_plus?


Actually, they did just fine on their GDP defending themselves without our help until 1973, when they stupidly did not buy enough bullets for a few years. You know why we bailed them out? Because they prepped all of their nuclear weapon delivery vehicles right when out spy satellites could see them. I'll let you guess what message they were trying to send.

We weren't saving Israel then and we are not now. We were (are) saving the millions who live(d) in Cairo, Damascus, Baghdad, Riyadh, Mecca, Medina, and possibly back then Odessa, Kiev, and (assuming a blatant suicide mission wasn't out of the question and they had put some aces up their sleeve) Moscow. They don't really need our support. They'll happily take it - why pay for things when you don't have to? But they'd be fine if we cut them off completely.

Oh, but evil Jewish Israel is full of hate towards Iranians because evil Jews are all racist:

"Our dear Imam (referring to Ayatollah Khomeini) said that the occupying regime must be wiped off the map and this was a very wise statement. We cannot compromise over the issue of Palestine. Is it possible to create a new front in the heart of an old front. This would be a defeat and whoever accepts the legitimacy of this regime has in fact, signed the defeat of the Islamic world. Our dear Imam targeted the heart of the world oppressor in his struggle, meaning the occupying regime. I have no doubt that the new wave that has started in Palestine, and we witness it in the Islamic world too, will eliminate this disgraceful stain from the Islamic world." - Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, leader of Iran

B-B-B-But he didn't say Israel, so it's OK! Israel is just pretending to feel threatened because they will take over the oil in collusion with the Rothschilds!

/maybe you should try reading some history books not by Howard Zinn and Noam Chomsky and newspapers besides the Guardian
//you should try to expand your mind but I know your knee jerk hatred of jews is so much easier
 
2012-08-22 11:32:10 PM  

consider this: dr_blasto: WTF would you do if you found yourself displaced from your home, forced to live in a camp or burnt out city with only limited resources in the form of water or power and no lawful travel rights?

I'm not advocating rocket attacks on civilians. I think that's horrendous, but the world the Palestinians are forced to accept is also horrendous.


Yeah, if only they had somewhere else to go.


If you don't like it, then go back to all those countries in Europe that love to share with Jews then.

Oh, wait....
 
2012-08-22 11:33:14 PM  

detritus: Zionists believe they need to fulfill biblical prophecy to have Jesus come back. They are tired of waiting, which is why the settlements continue to be built in the West Bank.


Zionists are not actually big fans of Jesus.
 
2012-08-22 11:33:46 PM  

consider this: dr_blasto: WTF would you do if you found yourself displaced from your home, forced to live in a camp or burnt out city with only limited resources in the form of water or power and no lawful travel rights?

I'm not advocating rocket attacks on civilians. I think that's horrendous, but the world the Palestinians are forced to accept is also horrendous.


Yeah, if only they had somewhere else to go.

[allfaith.com image 400x298]


I assume you mean where would the Palestinians go, right?

None of those countries around Israel want anything to do with them. At best, they seem to support the Palestinian cause only as a foil against Israel. Two shiats is still two more shiats than they give for the pawns in their game and everybody know this.

Two shiats also happens to be two more shiats than Israel gives about the Palestinians. Israel's government and settler movement project an attitude of disdain for them, one gets the impression if the government thought it could get away with it, they'd disappear the entire population post haste.
 
2012-08-22 11:39:44 PM  

consider this: dr_blasto: I assume you mean where would the Palestinians go, right?

None of those countries around Israel want anything to do with them. At best, they seem to support the Palestinian cause only as a foil against Israel. Two shiats is still two more shiats than they give for the pawns in their game and everybody know this.

Two shiats also happens to be two more shiats than Israel gives about the Palestinians. Israel's government and settler movement project an attitude of disdain for them, one gets the impression if the government thought it could get away with it, they'd disappear the entire population post haste.

So none of the other Arab countires give a shiat about them, but Israel is supposed to give a shiat about the people that have launched over 9,000 rockets at them in the past 10 years? Interesting way of looking at things.


Have you noticed that throughout most of history, mostly everyone has hated the Jews except for, gasp, the Jews?

/I see a pattern forming here
 
2012-08-22 11:41:18 PM  
Oh look! It's that thread again where the anti-semites say they are just anti-zionists. Just like the neo-nazis do. :)
 
2012-08-22 11:43:25 PM  
Jews got holocausted. I think Americans should stand shoulder to shoulder with these victims to prove once and for all that white people are innocent of all crimes comitted against these impoverished, innocent and unjustley victomized people. The people of Israel are constantly under attack. You see it everywhere, Katusha rockets, suicide bombings, kidnappings, you name it.

The State Of Israel has been in existance for over TWO THOUSAND YEARS and yet the rags wan't them out now? Truly this is a case of muslum extremism gone awry.

Americans! Stand with the Jews! Or by God, freedom will disapeare faster than CNN ratings.
 
2012-08-22 11:43:38 PM  

Party Boy: gilgigamesh: The report added that Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak believe President Barack Obama would have no choice but to give backing for an Israeli attack before the US presidential elections in November.

groan


Seig heil Party Boy! Fight the good fight!
 
2012-08-22 11:43:48 PM  

Evil High Priest: studebaker hoch: Israel was the right idea in the wrong area code.

I think Oklahoma would have been better. Or one of the Dakotas. Who's using them anyway? Britain used to have this adorable idiosyncrasy where they would set up countries in their wake that they absolutely knew would be unstable. Israel is one of their finer works. Pakistan is a close second.


Mm, I'm going to see your Israel/Pakistan and raise you Iraq and Zimbabwe.
 
2012-08-22 11:45:32 PM  
xtupload.com

Dance, clown, dance! 
 
2012-08-22 11:45:36 PM  

Tyranicle: Jews got holocausted. I think Americans should stand shoulder to shoulder with these victims to prove once and for all that white people are innocent of all crimes comitted against these impoverished, innocent and unjustley victomized people. The people of Israel are constantly under attack. You see it everywhere, Katusha rockets, suicide bombings, kidnappings, you name it.

The State Of Israel has been in existance for over TWO THOUSAND YEARS and yet the rags wan't them out now? Truly this is a case of muslum extremism gone awry.

Americans! Stand with the Jews! Or by God, freedom will disapeare faster than CNN ratings.


Just because certain people want the worst possible outcome for you, doesn't mean they hate you, or something, according to Fark logic.
 
2012-08-22 11:45:54 PM  
I don't give a damn if that chunk of desert and scorpions IS God's msot favorite place in the universe and Israelies ARE God's most favorite humans of all. We're not your goddamned attack dog, Israel. We've got better and more important things to do in our own fricking country, if you want to start up yet another holy war you can do it by your damn self.
 
2012-08-22 11:46:25 PM  

Tyranicle: Jews got holocausted. I think Americans should stand shoulder to shoulder with these victims to prove once and for all that white people are innocent of all crimes comitted against these impoverished, innocent and unjustley victomized people. The people of Israel are constantly under attack. You see it everywhere, Katusha rockets, suicide bombings, kidnappings, you name it.

The State Of Israel has been in existance for over TWO THOUSAND YEARS and yet the rags wan't them out now? Truly this is a case of muslum extremism gone awry.

Americans! Stand with the Jews! Or by God, freedom will disapeare faster than CNN ratings.


10/10

Well done.
 
2012-08-22 11:47:19 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: I don't give a damn if that chunk of desert and scorpions IS God's msot favorite place in the universe and Israelies ARE God's most favorite humans of all. We're not your goddamned attack dog, Israel. We've got better and more important things to do in our own fricking country, if you want to start up yet another holy war you can do it by your damn self.


Take care of the white man. It's serious business. Damn jews can wait.
 
2012-08-22 11:48:45 PM  

beta_plus: dr_blasto: beta_plus: I love how Fark Anti-Semite Libs think that poor weak mean Israel only exists with America's support through somehow magically manipulating our chaotic electoral system.

Did it ever occur to you jew haters that all America does is try to get Israel to hold back?

They wouldn't fall without us. They'd wipe their neighbors and Iran out.

/you can thank the French for giving them 200+ nukes

How much military aid do we supply Israel with annually? Are you so incredibly stupid that you think they could sustain their own military-industrial-complex on their GDP?

Clearly, though, you think that calling out Israel for being assholes when they're, you know, actually being assholes about something is anti-semitic.

You know, you seem to think so little of our Jewish friends in the middle east that you believe they can't take even a little constructive criticism. Maybe you're the anti-semite. Are you one of those end of the world god-botherer types that's praying for the destruction of Israel to bring you to the End Times? Maybe this is more of your stupid "MY TEAM RIGHT OR WRONG" politics.

Maybe you've succumbed to some kind of TBI and I'm just picking on a disabled person who isn't in full control of their faculties. I guess that'd make me the dick.

Which is it, beta_plus?

Actually, they did just fine on their GDP defending themselves without our help until 1973, when they stupidly did not buy enough bullets for a few years. You know why we bailed them out? Because they prepped all of their nuclear weapon delivery vehicles right when out spy satellites could see them. I'll let you guess what message they were trying to send.

We weren't saving Israel then and we are not now. We were (are) saving the millions who live(d) in Cairo, Damascus, Baghdad, Riyadh, Mecca, Medina, and possibly back then Odessa, Kiev, and (assuming a blatant suicide mission wasn't out of the question and they had put some aces up their sleeve) Moscow. They don't really ...


So, to summarize, criticism of the government of Israel and her policies is tantamount to anti-semitism. That's an intellectual argument if I've ever heard one.

Maybe, just maybe it isn't anything other than the fault of their governmental policies. Yeah, I acknowledge Iran's chief Ayatolla-o-cock-a-rolla says nasty shiat. Wipe 'em off the map he says. Their chief dinner jacket parrots the same shiat later in the day and the world moves on.

That they say this daily makes it hard to take them seriously. They're contained. It's done.

Regarding the miltary spending of Israel, roughly 7% GDP making them what, #18 in total expenditures according to wikipedia (last year) is pretty big.

They have no significant energy sources, net importer of just about everything. You know, that 7% is a lot. We spend a godawful amount of money on defense - $2143 per capita or roughly 4.7% of GDP.

I'm not falling for Israel's military independence. The world of 1973 isn't the world of today, they require the money and will work their lobby arm as hard as possible to get it--and would likely change their behavior as needed if the lobbying work.
 
2012-08-22 11:49:29 PM  
There is considerable opposition to an Israeli strike on Iran's nuclear facilities, the report noted - with President Shimon Peres, the army's chief of the General Staff and top generals, the intelligence community, opposition leader Shaul Mofaz, "and of course the Americans" all lined up against Israeli action at this stage.

Shimon Peres said in a statement, condemning any sudden action:

"And Iran... Iran so far away."
 
2012-08-22 11:49:34 PM  
Seriously. Fark is so anti-semetic it's not even funny. The saddest part is most of you anti-semetic assholes don't realize what racist douchebags you are.
 
2012-08-22 11:49:41 PM  

consider this: fatalvenom: Have you noticed that throughout most of history, mostly everyone has hated the Jews except for, gasp, the Jews?

Yeah, those dirty Jews, always getting their ass kicked out of their homeland and trying to sneak back in.


Why did most of the countries hand over their Jew population to the Germans during WWII?

Hint: not because they wanted to protect the Jews
 
2012-08-22 11:50:31 PM  

detritus: Zionists believe they need to fulfill biblical prophecy to have Jesus come back. They are tired of waiting, which is why the settlements continue to be built in the West Bank.


This statement heavily implies you're not too clear on 'Zionist' and/or not really sure who Jesus was.
 
2012-08-22 11:51:26 PM  

consider this: dr_blasto: I assume you mean where would the Palestinians go, right?

None of those countries around Israel want anything to do with them. At best, they seem to support the Palestinian cause only as a foil against Israel. Two shiats is still two more shiats than they give for the pawns in their game and everybody know this.

Two shiats also happens to be two more shiats than Israel gives about the Palestinians. Israel's government and settler movement project an attitude of disdain for them, one gets the impression if the government thought it could get away with it, they'd disappear the entire population post haste.

So none of the other Arab countires give a shiat about them, but Israel is supposed to give a shiat about the people that have launched over 9,000 rockets at them in the past 10 years? Interesting way of looking at things.


Israel is occupying them. It is their obligation. This wasn't something the Palestinians volunteered for. Not saying launching rockets is the right thing, but something's gotta give.
 
2012-08-22 11:52:25 PM  

muck4doo: Seriously. Fark is so anti-semetic it's not even funny. The saddest part is most of you anti-semetic assholes don't realize what racist douchebags you are.


If you lived in South Florida and had to deal with their whining and self-important crying on a daily basis, you might change your tune.
 
2012-08-22 11:54:05 PM  
Also, I don't see what OJ has to do with this...



<img src="http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/6/18/12889829976 9417248.jpg">
 
2012-08-22 11:55:00 PM  

consider this: fatalvenom: Why did most of the countries hand over their Jew population to the Germans during WWII?

Hint: not because they wanted to protect the Jews


Wow, you're a piece of shiat. Have fun with that.


The truth must hurt. Sorry.
 
2012-08-22 11:55:12 PM  

muck4doo: Seriously. Fark is so anti-semetic it's not even funny. The saddest part is most of you anti-semetic assholes don't realize what racist douchebags you are.


Criticizing a foreign government is anti-semetic?

Good to know.

At least we're no longer calling the people that think Israel is following bad policy nazis or anti-Semites any more.
 
2012-08-22 11:55:17 PM  

Thunderpipes: Why do you morons think Israel needs our help?

Why do liberals hate Israel for wanting to be safe? Iran dude just said some pretty awful things about Israel even existing, and you defend him?

Liberals are bad.


I stopped giving a damn about anyone over there. Their little holy wars have been going on for nearly two millennia, nothing we can do will stop anything. If they truly wanted peace, they'd have tried it long before now.

If it comes down to them annihilating each other in nuclear fire, then that's what it'll take for the nonsense to stop. I'll shed no tears, only hope that the rest of the world doesn't catch their infection.
 
2012-08-22 11:55:24 PM  

fatalvenom: muck4doo: Seriously. Fark is so anti-semetic it's not even funny. The saddest part is most of you anti-semetic assholes don't realize what racist douchebags you are.

If you lived in South Florida and had to deal with their whining and self-important crying on a daily basis, you might change your tune.


I'm from a Mexican family. So it would have made no difference to me. :p
 
2012-08-22 11:55:24 PM  

muck4doo: Seriously. Fark is so anti-semetic it's not even funny. The saddest part is most of you anti-semetic assholes don't realize what racist douchebags you are.


Being against armed conflict is racist now?
 
2012-08-22 11:55:49 PM  
WTF? Take 2...

Also, I don't see what OJ has to do with this...

images.cheezburger.com
 
2012-08-22 11:57:00 PM  

Captain_Ballbeard: holding racist lynchings of "Palestinian animals" in public.


So if Palestinians aren't animal, are they vegetable or are they mineral?
 
2012-08-22 11:58:02 PM  

dr_blasto: muck4doo: Seriously. Fark is so anti-semetic it's not even funny. The saddest part is most of you anti-semetic assholes don't realize what racist douchebags you are.

Criticizing a foreign government is anti-semetic?

Good to know.

At least we're no longer calling the people that think Israel is following bad policy nazis or anti-Semites any more.


Acharne: muck4doo: Seriously. Fark is so anti-semetic it's not even funny. The saddest part is most of you anti-semetic assholes don't realize what racist douchebags you are.

Being against armed conflict is racist now?


You two are perfect examples. Where is your outrage when Hamas sends rockets into Israel? I'd like to see the Fark links. Go go go Kill Israel, amiright?
 
2012-08-22 11:58:29 PM  

muck4doo: fatalvenom: muck4doo: Seriously. Fark is so anti-semetic it's not even funny. The saddest part is most of you anti-semetic assholes don't realize what racist douchebags you are.

If you lived in South Florida and had to deal with their whining and self-important crying on a daily basis, you might change your tune.

I'm from a Mexican family. So it would have made no difference to me. :p


I'm Latvian and I hate Russians more than anything. But the Jews had a lot to do with my homeland falling under Stallin's rule and many of my people being sent to die in Siberia. So I have no sympathy for them.
 
2012-08-22 11:59:25 PM  

fatalvenom: muck4doo: fatalvenom: muck4doo: Seriously. Fark is so anti-semetic it's not even funny. The saddest part is most of you anti-semetic assholes don't realize what racist douchebags you are.

If you lived in South Florida and had to deal with their whining and self-important crying on a daily basis, you might change your tune.

I'm from a Mexican family. So it would have made no difference to me. :p

I'm Latvian and I hate Russians more than anything. But the Jews had a lot to do with my homeland falling under Stallin's rule and many of my people being sent to die in Siberia. So I have no sympathy for them.


I rest my case.
 
2012-08-22 11:59:38 PM  

fatalvenom: consider this: fatalvenom: Have you noticed that throughout most of history, mostly everyone has hated the Jews except for, gasp, the Jews?

Yeah, those dirty Jews, always getting their ass kicked out of their homeland and trying to sneak back in.

Why did most of the countries hand over their Jew population to the Germans during WWII?

Hint: not because they wanted to protect the Jews


Hmm. So these European countries that merrily handed over their Jews... I guess they also enthusiastically gave up their sovereignty? Or maybe it was because they were getting blown to bits? Probably not.

This place is absolutely vile. I don't understand how veteran Farkers can take this kind of hatred and willful ignorance.
 
2012-08-23 12:01:45 AM  

consider this: fatalvenom: The truth must hurt. Sorry.

So how much of your income do you send back home to your relatives in the Middle East? Should have known you were a Arab with your disgusting attitude.


Read my last post before this.

I hate Russians more than anything, but the Jews were one of the reasons of what happened to Latvia.
 
2012-08-23 12:02:18 AM  

muck4doo: Acharne: muck4doo: Seriously. Fark is so anti-semetic it's not even funny. The saddest part is most of you anti-semetic assholes don't realize what racist douchebags you are.

Being against armed conflict is racist now?

You two are perfect examples. Where is your outrage when Hamas sends rockets into Israel? I'd like to see the Fark links. Go go go Kill Israel, amiright?


Dude. Firing rockets IS armed conflict. I despise Hamas.

I think you're just being presumptuous. I do not think saying "Israel would be wrong to attack Iran" is racist. I think Israel has a right to defend itself, but I do not think attacking Iran is the way to go about it.

I think it would be appreciated if you don't lot all of us against armed conflict into the 'fark Israel' camp. That simply isn't my position.
 
2012-08-23 12:02:23 AM  

consider this: fatalvenom: I'm Latvian

Nice try but your shiatty taste in cars makes it obvious that you're an Arab.


Consider this....you are a fark-tard.
 
2012-08-23 12:03:42 AM  

consider this: Should have known you were a Arab with your disgusting attitude.


It must be nice to be not racist like you.
 
2012-08-23 12:03:57 AM  

fatalvenom: consider this: fatalvenom: Have you noticed that throughout most of history, mostly everyone has hated the Jews except for, gasp, the Jews?

Yeah, those dirty Jews, always getting their ass kicked out of their homeland and trying to sneak back in.

Why did most of the countries hand over their Jew population to the Germans during WWII?

Hint: not because they wanted to protect the Jews


Why don't you tell us then.
 
2012-08-23 12:04:37 AM  

consider this: fatalvenom: Consider this....you are a fark-tard.

You're a racist douche.


I hate Jews. Get over it.

I also hate Russians.

OMG...someone can hate people.

The agony!?!?!?!?
 
2012-08-23 12:04:54 AM  
Here's a fun excercise -

1. Place a nuclear weapon in the capital plaza (or within the blast radius of all important buildings) of each country that wants to make war.
2. Lock 1 diplomat from each country in a room in a far-off land that will survive the blast, with the detonation button for each city on a high ceiling. Make it so that all parties would have to work together to reach said button, but could not fashion any implements do so with only one person.
3. Film the hairpulling and fist-fighting that would ensue, and sell access to the Pay-Per-View. Because that way, at least someone wins the current game.
 
2012-08-23 12:04:54 AM  

kurtanglerookieyear: fatalvenom: consider this: fatalvenom: Have you noticed that throughout most of history, mostly everyone has hated the Jews except for, gasp, the Jews?

Yeah, those dirty Jews, always getting their ass kicked out of their homeland and trying to sneak back in.

Why did most of the countries hand over their Jew population to the Germans during WWII?

Hint: not because they wanted to protect the Jews

Hmm. So these European countries that merrily handed over their Jews... I guess they also enthusiastically gave up their sovereignty? Or maybe it was because they were getting blown to bits? Probably not.

This place is absolutely vile. I don't understand how veteran Farkers can take this kind of hatred and willful ignorance.


Amazing, isn't it? I'm reminded of the rainbow song, "Can't Happen Here".
 
2012-08-23 12:04:58 AM  

untaken_name: consider this: Should have known you were a Arab with your disgusting attitude.

It must be nice to be not racist like you.


Oh, whoops. Misplaced a word. Should have read "It must NOT be nice to be racist like you." My bad.
 
2012-08-23 12:06:21 AM  

beta_plus: dr_blasto: beta_plus: I love how Fark Anti-Semite Libs think that poor weak mean Israel only exists with America's support through somehow magically manipulating our chaotic electoral system.

Did it ever occur to you jew haters that all America does is try to get Israel to hold back?

They wouldn't fall without us. They'd wipe their neighbors and Iran out.

/you can thank the French for giving them 200+ nukes

How much military aid do we supply Israel with annually? Are you so incredibly stupid that you think they could sustain their own military-industrial-complex on their GDP?

Clearly, though, you think that calling out Israel for being assholes when they're, you know, actually being assholes about something is anti-semitic.

You know, you seem to think so little of our Jewish friends in the middle east that you believe they can't take even a little constructive criticism. Maybe you're the anti-semite. Are you one of those end of the world god-botherer types that's praying for the destruction of Israel to bring you to the End Times? Maybe this is more of your stupid "MY TEAM RIGHT OR WRONG" politics.

Maybe you've succumbed to some kind of TBI and I'm just picking on a disabled person who isn't in full control of their faculties. I guess that'd make me the dick.

Which is it, beta_plus?

Actually, they did just fine on their GDP defending themselves without our help until 1973, when they stupidly did not buy enough bullets for a few years. You know why we bailed them out? Because they prepped all of their nuclear weapon delivery vehicles right when out spy satellites could see them. I'll let you guess what message they were trying to send.

We weren't saving Israel then and we are not now. We were (are) saving the millions who live(d) in Cairo, Damascus, Baghdad, Riyadh, Mecca, Medina, and possibly back then Odessa, Kiev, and (assuming a blatant suicide mission wasn't out of the question and they had put some aces up their sleeve) Moscow. They don't really ...


That's interesting about the "last resort". It's what I'm expecting from Assad.
 
2012-08-23 12:06:26 AM  

RoyBatty: fatalvenom: consider this: fatalvenom: Have you noticed that throughout most of history, mostly everyone has hated the Jews except for, gasp, the Jews?

Yeah, those dirty Jews, always getting their ass kicked out of their homeland and trying to sneak back in.

Why did most of the countries hand over their Jew population to the Germans during WWII?

Hint: not because they wanted to protect the Jews

Why don't you tell us then.


Read a book.
 
2012-08-23 12:08:42 AM  

consider this: fatalvenom: The truth must hurt. Sorry.

So how much of your income do you send back home to your relatives in the Middle East? Should have known you were a Arab with your disgusting attitude.


Dunno if he's Arab, and I don't think you sound any better by insulting all Arabs.

But, I just think that Fatal Venom has some obvious sort of negative attention seeking personality disorder.

The prevalence of mental illness online is just outstanding. All these people who don't have the confidence to say this stuff in person because they know they'll get their asses handed to them just go online and spout it for attention.

I'm guessing that living in your mother's basement will also do that to you.
 
2012-08-23 12:08:44 AM  

fatalvenom: consider this: fatalvenom: Consider this....you are a fark-tard.

You're a racist douche.

I hate Jews. Get over it.

I also hate Russians.

OMG...someone can hate people.

The agony!?!?!?!?


Well, it's nice to know we've identified the one anti-semite in this thread. But at least after a bit of coaxing at least fatalvenom had the balls to admit what he is.
 
2012-08-23 12:09:12 AM  
If Israel attacks Iran I think we must assist. Israel thinks that they must attack or risk being wiped out, off the map, a second holocaust. They may be 100% correct as Iranian leaders keep saying just that. They will never allow themselves to go through that again. If Israel is pushed to the point where they have to use their undeclared arsenal on their enemy, everyone loses. If Israel attacks and loses...and does not use their undeclared arsenal, the weapons fall into the wrong hands. We cannot afford either risk, so we have to assist in my estimation.

If we do not assist when Israel truly believes it must attack or perish...and wins, we would lose an ally most likely forever. If Israel does not attack and suffers a second holocaust, we lose and ally forever. We are pretty screwed into going to war.

For me, I believe Israel will all out attack out of self preservation. They have been provoked and have a legitimate weed up their ass. I am seriously concerned this will spiral out of control, as Egypt is already moving it's military ...without consult prior to doing so with Israel as required by peace treaty... in the DMZ for the first time in over 30 years. Egypt thinking about something?

It's most likely in our best interests to help Israel stop Iran now from wiping Israel off the map. In a few years when they acquire additional technology, they will be threatening to wipe others off the map. I will never understand why the cultured, educated, intelligent bright people of Iran let their government threaten Israel with wiping them off the map and never realizing that they put themselves in the gravest peril for doing so.

War is coming.
 
2012-08-23 12:10:33 AM  

consider this: untaken_name: It must be nice to be not racist like you.

It's not racist to point out the obviousness of a chubby Arab hating on Jews.


Up is down, black is white, good is bad, wrong is right, war is peace. Doubleplus good, brother.
 
2012-08-23 12:10:35 AM  

consider this: untaken_name: It must be nice to be not racist like you.

It's not racist to point out the obviousness of a chubby Arab hating on Jews.


Es esmu Latvijas, jūsu faktus taisni tu farking ebrejs.
 
2012-08-23 12:10:51 AM  

Acharne: muck4doo: Acharne: muck4doo: Seriously. Fark is so anti-semetic it's not even funny. The saddest part is most of you anti-semetic assholes don't realize what racist douchebags you are.

Being against armed conflict is racist now?

You two are perfect examples. Where is your outrage when Hamas sends rockets into Israel? I'd like to see the Fark links. Go go go Kill Israel, amiright?

Dude. Firing rockets IS armed conflict. I despise Hamas.

I think you're just being presumptuous. I do not think saying "Israel would be wrong to attack Iran" is racist. I think Israel has a right to defend itself, but I do not think attacking Iran is the way to go about it.

I think it would be appreciated if you don't lot all of us against armed conflict into the 'fark Israel' camp. That simply isn't my position.


Understood. I've been on fark for a number of years, and have seen how most of this always goes. It was wrong for me to assume what your position is.
 
2012-08-23 12:11:42 AM  

RoyBatty: fatalvenom: consider this: fatalvenom: Consider this....you are a fark-tard.

You're a racist douche.

I hate Jews. Get over it.

I also hate Russians.

OMG...someone can hate people.

The agony!?!?!?!?

Well, it's nice to know we've identified the one anti-semite in this thread. But at least after a bit of coaxing at least fatalvenom had the balls to admit what he is.


I have no problem with it.

I know what my countrymen and women had to die for. For that, I will hate them.
 
2012-08-23 12:11:51 AM  

fatalvenom: consider this: untaken_name: It must be nice to be not racist like you.

It's not racist to point out the obviousness of a chubby Arab hating on Jews.

Es esmu Latvijas, jūsu faktus taisni tu farking ebrejs.


Oh, go back to Latvia, dude. You are a loser.
 
2012-08-23 12:12:19 AM  

RoyBatty: Well, it's nice to know we've identified the one anti-semite in this thread.


Two at least, actually, since Arabs are also Semites, that makes consider this an anti-Semite also.
 
2012-08-23 12:13:23 AM  

danielscissorhands: The prevalence of mental illness online is just outstanding. All these people who don't have the confidence to say this stuff in person because they know they'll get their asses handed to them just go online and spout it for attention.


Very seriously I have to admit that I admire fatalvenom's courage or his understanding that nothing will happen to him for spouting these views.

He puts in his profile plenty of stuff to identify him in real life including name, location, pictures, and then comes online and just spews this crap.

I keep my profile as clean as can be, and am always sweating someone will figure out who I am, and then take as honorable, virtuous positions as I can (and still FARKERS like GAT_00 compare me to a North Korean diplomat).

This is one reason I think I am glad FARK and other sites like this exist, so that the fatalvenoms can come out and express themselves and we can all see that anti-semitism really ain't dead.

But it's scary.
 
2012-08-23 12:14:02 AM  

muck4doo: Keizer_Ghidorah: I don't give a damn if that chunk of desert and scorpions IS God's msot favorite place in the universe and Israelies ARE God's most favorite humans of all. We're not your goddamned attack dog, Israel. We've got better and more important things to do in our own fricking country, if you want to start up yet another holy war you can do it by your damn self.

Take care of the white man. It's serious business. Damn jews can wait.


Don't know where I said that, unless you think America is home to only Caucasians. A little racist there?

We've got enough problems at home that we can't seem to fix without our own political aprties fighting and biatching, we DON'T need to be wasting any more time, money, and manpower playing referee to a region where they've been murdering each other over religion for the last 2,000 years. Sorry if that sounds mean, but reality is often harsh.
 
2012-08-23 12:14:06 AM  

consider this: fatalvenom: Es esmu Latvijas, jūsu faktus taisni tu farking ebrejs

I'm German you ignorant chub.


Do you know about the Gernan occupation of Latvia then, or are you a self-hating German?
 
2012-08-23 12:14:13 AM  

RoyBatty: GAT_00: Now, now, this is very interesting. This is someone who apparently can only read literal statements, he has no ability to determine nuance. It's very interesting. It's like talking to a North Korean diplomat.

There's a difference between nuance and putting words in people's mouths.

Another way to look at it is there are many more alternatives between the US okays an attack and the US participates in the attack that has been left out of the headline.

Also I have him Farkied as being a possible alt to You Know Who in these kind of threads, based on comment history.

That's funny too. I used to think you were an alt of GATO_NEGRO because of the way you two would blither on, equally irrational, but from different extremes.

No, I'm not Tatsuma, but I do respect him, if only his patience amongst a group of people who were mainly ill-informed. And you've missed out on the times I've chastised him. And I suspect he's got his life a whole lot put together better than I do.

But I certainly appreciate GAT_00 your ability to group people together as one, based on their comment history alone. We all know at FARK there couldn't possibly be more than two people with the similar points of view.

The only "alt" I have is JPFlathead which was my original username but "ditched" when my posting of the animated gif of the scanner's head exploding was deemed too graphic and was banned and had html removed from it.

What are your alt's GAT_00? I occasionally lump you in with a lot of tards based on your comment history.


Me mem me emmememememememem memememe mememe mememe...........................for fuks sake,,,some of you total Fatkers can you ever start a sentence without the word Me or I ???????

And let me get this straight...some of you are SO preoccupied with posting on Fark you spoof and use alts?
Get
A
Life
 
2012-08-23 12:14:38 AM  
 
2012-08-23 12:15:19 AM  

muck4doo: Understood. I've been on fark for a number of years, and have seen how most of this always goes. It was wrong for me to assume what your position is.


Thank you. Fark is a nasty place often enough, I appreciated that.
 
2012-08-23 12:17:41 AM  

RoyBatty: danielscissorhands: The prevalence of mental illness online is just outstanding. All these people who don't have the confidence to say this stuff in person because they know they'll get their asses handed to them just go online and spout it for attention.

Very seriously I have to admit that I admire fatalvenom's courage or his understanding that nothing will happen to him for spouting these views.

He puts in his profile plenty of stuff to identify him in real life including name, location, pictures, and then comes online and just spews this crap.

I keep my profile as clean as can be, and am always sweating someone will figure out who I am, and then take as honorable, virtuous positions as I can (and still FARKERS like GAT_00 compare me to a North Korean diplomat).

This is one reason I think I am glad FARK and other sites like this exist, so that the fatalvenoms can come out and express themselves and we can all see that anti-semitism really ain't dead.

But it's scary.


The untreated mental illness is a lot scarier.
 
2012-08-23 12:18:30 AM  

consider this: untaken_name: Two at least, actually, since Arabs are also Semites, that makes consider this an anti-Semite also.

I never said I hate Arabs, only pointing out my belief that the Palestinians are the instigators and responsible for the bad shiat Israel unleashes on them. That's a far cry from chub making obviously racist comments about the entire Jewish race.


No, you never said you hate Arabs. You just said that Arab = chubby, Arab = poor taste in cars, Arab = racist, and Arab = totally responsible for any and all Arab-Jewish problems. Sometimes you don't have to explicitly say something for it to be apparent.
 
2012-08-23 12:18:54 AM  

Hugemeister: And let me get this straight...some of you are SO preoccupied with posting on Fark you spoof and use alts?GetALife


Uh, that was my point, I don't use alts, but GAT_00 accused me of that.

I did have another user but it was banned for posting something that I now see a few times a week here. And so when that was banned, I created this username, and when someone accuses me of having an alt, I just let them know of that other username.
 
2012-08-23 12:19:31 AM  

RoyBatty: danielscissorhands: The prevalence of mental illness online is just outstanding. All these people who don't have the confidence to say this stuff in person because they know they'll get their asses handed to them just go online and spout it for attention.

Very seriously I have to admit that I admire fatalvenom's courage or his understanding that nothing will happen to him for spouting these views.

He puts in his profile plenty of stuff to identify him in real life including name, location, pictures, and then comes online and just spews this crap.

I keep my profile as clean as can be, and am always sweating someone will figure out who I am, and then take as honorable, virtuous positions as I can (and still FARKERS like GAT_00 compare me to a North Korean diplomat).

This is one reason I think I am glad FARK and other sites like this exist, so that the fatalvenoms can come out and express themselves and we can all see that anti-semitism really ain't dead.

But it's scary.


If you think that my name is right, your wrong. My location, I'm one of many like myself here who don't like Jews. My picture, if you could pick me out of a line-up here I'd be shocked.

With that said, I know what happened to my family and the way Jews hate Germans and Arabs is the way I hate Jews and Russians.

Tough cookies, bro.
 
2012-08-23 12:20:48 AM  
Well Armed Sheep

I heard that one of the early proposals for a Jewish nation-state after ww2 was Baja California. Just what i heard, though.

Mexico would have never sold.

Evil High Priest

I think Oklahoma would have been better. Or one of the Dakotas. Who's using them anyway? Britain used to have this adorable idiosyncrasy where they would set up countries in their wake that they absolutely knew would be unstable. Israel is one of their finer works. Pakistan is a close second.

I think the Dakotas were actually considered, but that Israel wanted, understandably, to be a totally independent state not just a part of America which no matter how you drew the maps they would always be.

My question is - why didn't they use South Africa? There's some connection there, right? Some kind of refuge for their treasure or some such, as if the move was very nearly made but someone changed their mind. Maybe it was always a plan B in case the current state of Israel ever was in fact completely overrun.

They would have had a huge coastline and a lot of distance between them and anyone else.

Instead, they went where they are now. I understand the religious significance of the area, to three powerful religions, and they would have written it off. So they did the religious noble thing and stood their ground. Yay.

To me, the situation seems as if a white family had ancestral properties of great significance in the middle of Watts. They move in, build a nice house, dress the kids well and try to live their dreams. But they get attacked, endlessly, by the gangsters and thugs living all around. And so they fight back in self defense, people end up dead on both sides, and now it's a war. And the white family pleads rightfully that they can't walk to the park or even go out at night because there are scary mofos standing on the corners watching them constantly. And it will never stop. No matter how many get shot on either side, the war will continue, forever.

The problem is, OF COURSE it's like that there. Anybody could have told you that.

The only way to keep safe now is for the white family to build a huge fence around their yard, and try be happy never leaving their yard. And hope they can ignore what's outside the gates.

This is what I see happening now. The war won't stop. So they're making Israel, which was kind of a nice place at one time, into a maximum-security fortress.

And they all have to live like that now.

The only way it could end on a national level is for peace to somehow break out, but really all we get is the opposite. Endless clamor for more wars, and the ridiculous notion that the US should somehow get involved in a pre-emptive strike on Iran. That's insane.

All Israel seems to want to do is live by the sword.

I don't even know that it's possible to move somewhere else now. Most Jews don't even live in Israel. I don't blame them. There are better places to live and raise kids and grow old than in the middle of the worst neighborhood on Earth. 

Isn't this great! Isn't this fun!

F*ck this.
 
2012-08-23 12:21:11 AM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: muck4doo: Keizer_Ghidorah: I don't give a damn if that chunk of desert and scorpions IS God's msot favorite place in the universe and Israelies ARE God's most favorite humans of all. We're not your goddamned attack dog, Israel. We've got better and more important things to do in our own fricking country, if you want to start up yet another holy war you can do it by your damn self.

Take care of the white man. It's serious business. Damn jews can wait.

Don't know where I said that, unless you think America is home to only Caucasians. A little racist there?

We've got enough problems at home that we can't seem to fix without our own political aprties fighting and biatching, we DON'T need to be wasting any more time, money, and manpower playing referee to a region where they've been murdering each other over religion for the last 2,000 years. Sorry if that sounds mean, but reality is often harsh.


Except that America has many allies, and enemies. The anti-semetic crowd hates that the Jews are Allies. When asked their reasons why, it's usually the typical Nazi and pan-Arabism propoganda. So shoot it to me. What is your reason for hating the jews?
 
2012-08-23 12:21:32 AM  

consider this: fatalvenom: Do you know about the Gernan occupation of Latvia then

Is that when Latvia stuck a white flag in their ass and rolled over to the Nazi's?


No we let the Germans come in to take the Jews out of our country, then they stuck the white flag in their ass and let us get killed by Stallin.
 
2012-08-23 12:23:09 AM  

consider this: untaken_name: No, you never said you hate Arabs. You just said that Arab = chubby, Arab = poor taste in cars, Arab = racist, and Arab = totally responsible for any and all Arab-Jewish problems. Sometimes you don't have to explicitly say something for it to be apparent.

Ripping on chub is being done for entertainment value. Also, I never said that Palestinians were 100% responsible.


Keep calling me Chub, I'd love to see what you look like.
 
2012-08-23 12:23:47 AM  

danielscissorhands: The untreated mental illness is a lot scarier.


Yes. Actually all the crap that can come out in these threads can be truly enlightening and terrifying.

So as an American Jew that would love to see a two state solution and peace in the middle east and has never liked the settlements and doesn't want to see a war with Iran or see Israel farking in our elections, I see these threads of filled with uninformed ignorant hate (I don't mind the informed protests nearly as much) and I end up thinking, well, I guess I am glad Israel is looking out for herself because so many people here are eager to leave her high and dry.
 
2012-08-23 12:23:48 AM  
By the way Mr. Keizer, you do indeed have an infatuation with Jews. Care to expand on it?
 
2012-08-23 12:24:20 AM  

consider this: Also, I never said that Palestinians were 100% responsible.


consider this: only pointing out my belief that the Palestinians are the instigators and responsible for the bad shiat Israel unleashes on them


Good day, sir.
 
2012-08-23 12:25:12 AM  

consider this: fatalvenom: No we let the Germans come in to take the Jews out of our country, then they stuck the white flag in their ass and let us get killed by Stallin.

So what you're saying is that nobody likes Latvians. You're sure making that one easy to figure out.


We don't like you either
 
2012-08-23 12:25:19 AM  

fatalvenom: I know what happened to my family and the way Jews hate Germans and Arabs is the way I hate Jews and Russians.


I don't know what happened to your family, but I don't think you know how Jews feel towards Germans and Arabs either, and I believe the views you've expressed in this thread go way beyond that.
 
2012-08-23 12:29:20 AM  
Fun fact: Racists rarely consider themselves racist because they feel their hate has a valid reason behind it.
 
2012-08-23 12:29:24 AM  

muck4doo: Keizer_Ghidorah: muck4doo: Keizer_Ghidorah: I don't give a damn if that chunk of desert and scorpions IS God's msot favorite place in the universe and Israelies ARE God's most favorite humans of all. We're not your goddamned attack dog, Israel. We've got better and more important things to do in our own fricking country, if you want to start up yet another holy war you can do it by your damn self.

Take care of the white man. It's serious business. Damn jews can wait.

Don't know where I said that, unless you think America is home to only Caucasians. A little racist there?

We've got enough problems at home that we can't seem to fix without our own political aprties fighting and biatching, we DON'T need to be wasting any more time, money, and manpower playing referee to a region where they've been murdering each other over religion for the last 2,000 years. Sorry if that sounds mean, but reality is often harsh.

Except that America has many allies, and enemies. The anti-semetic crowd hates that the Jews are Allies. When asked their reasons why, it's usually the typical Nazi and pan-Arabism propoganda. So shoot it to me. What is your reason for hating the jews?


I don't hate Jews. I hate stupid people. I hate people who fight over retarded reasons. I hate morons who can't stop slaughtering each other for ten seconds to realize that a two millennia blood feud isn't going to get them anything except more death and destruction. My rational mind can't wrap around the level of irrationality going on over there, a conflict over who's the most bestest favorite in the eyes of a fictional being and who gets to rule a sun-baked sand pile.

As far as I'm converned, EVERYONE over there is nuttier than a shiathouse rat. The sane ones are welcome to come over here or go elsewhere until the madness either finally blows over or results in apocalyptic destruction. Personally I hope it's the former, but at this point I'll welcome anything that will finally end it and let a bit of peace and sanity return to the world.
 
2012-08-23 12:29:25 AM  

RoyBatty: fatalvenom: I know what happened to my family and the way Jews hate Germans and Arabs is the way I hate Jews and Russians.

I don't know what happened to your family, but I don't think you know how Jews feel towards Germans and Arabs either, and I believe the views you've expressed in this thread go way beyond that.


They don't. I like that the guy is honest. That's where discussion starts. It's the dishonest assholes who say they are not anti-semetic, but anti-zionist who keep discussion from continuing, and UP the hate. Quit being dishonest tards, and admit you are racist assholes.
 
2012-08-23 12:31:01 AM  
BolloxReader
Oh, and I want to point out that all of this could have been avoided if Great Britain had granted the Palestinians independence following WWI as had been promised in exchange for rising up against the Ottomans. Then nobody would have been able to establish Israel by kicking out natives and turning them into refugees and pissing off everyone else.

Creating bloody and intractable religious conflicts was the imperial strategy for keeping the natives too busy fighting each other to have time to fight their rulers; later, it served in former colonies for making sure their victims would never be inclined to seek revenge.


RandomRandom
Add all this up and it becomes very clear that Israel is completely full of shiat.

By all indications they've got themselves so psyched up that at this point if they don't try then they'll look like just as much of fools. Why choose a path with a 100% chance of humiliation (i.e. not attacking) when there is a path with only a 95% chance?


dr_blasto
Indifferent attitude to the slaughter of civilians, including women and children, through the deployment and use of modern, highly efficient weapons with highly accurate targeting and control systems

That doesn't even really matter. The real issue is that Israel has absolute territorial and military control. Israel is the power here. There is literally nothing that the Palestinians can do that will cause Israel to remove the settlers, checkpoints, border controls, blockades etc and otherwise allow Palestine to be a viable state where people have at least a chance of living with some kind of basic dignity. Israelis complaining about anything Palestinians do against them is like a 5th grader holding down a 2nd grader and complaining that he'shiatting back.


consider this
Yeah, if only they had somewhere else to go.

lol at anything east of Iraq being considered "Arab".

People want to live in their home, not some random patch of rock a thousand miles away.

the people that have launched over 9,000 rockets at them in the past 10 years

The civilian population = the terrorists, eh? By that logic, because of settler attacks on Palestinian civilians, every Israeli should be considered a terrorist too, right?


muck4doo
Where is your outrage when Hamas sends rockets into Israel?

Let me know when Hamas carpets Israel in checkpoints, demolishes Israeli airports and power plants, restricts Israeli access to water, sequesters Israelis into isolated ghettoes that require intentionally excessively circuitous routes to pass between, denies Israel access to the Mediterranean, arrests members of the Knesset, arbitrarily denies Israelis building permits and sends in the bulldozers when they build anyway, and allows Palestinians to illegally take over apartment blocks in Tel Aviv and protects them with thousands of soldiers. Then I will give a fark.
 
2012-08-23 12:32:04 AM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: muck4doo: Keizer_Ghidorah: muck4doo: Keizer_Ghidorah: I don't give a damn if that chunk of desert and scorpions IS God's msot favorite place in the universe and Israelies ARE God's most favorite humans of all. We're not your goddamned attack dog, Israel. We've got better and more important things to do in our own fricking country, if you want to start up yet another holy war you can do it by your damn self.

Take care of the white man. It's serious business. Damn jews can wait.

Don't know where I said that, unless you think America is home to only Caucasians. A little racist there?

We've got enough problems at home that we can't seem to fix without our own political aprties fighting and biatching, we DON'T need to be wasting any more time, money, and manpower playing referee to a region where they've been murdering each other over religion for the last 2,000 years. Sorry if that sounds mean, but reality is often harsh.

Except that America has many allies, and enemies. The anti-semetic crowd hates that the Jews are Allies. When asked their reasons why, it's usually the typical Nazi and pan-Arabism propoganda. So shoot it to me. What is your reason for hating the jews?

I don't hate Jews. I hate stupid people. I hate people who fight over retarded reasons. I hate morons who can't stop slaughtering each other for ten seconds to realize that a two millennia blood feud isn't going to get them anything except more death and destruction. My rational mind can't wrap around the level of irrationality going on over there, a conflict over who's the most bestest favorite in the eyes of a fictional being and who gets to rule a sun-baked sand pile.

As far as I'm converned, EVERYONE over there is nuttier than a shiathouse rat. The sane ones are welcome to come over here or go elsewhere until the madness either finally blows over or results in apocalyptic destruction. Personally I hope it's the former, but at this point I'll welcome anything that will finally end it and let a b ...


I only saw one insane thing in that post. It was the assumption that you hold the ultimate truth, and everyone else is wrong.
 
2012-08-23 12:32:33 AM  

RoyBatty: fatalvenom: I know what happened to my family and the way Jews hate Germans and Arabs is the way I hate Jews and Russians.

I don't know what happened to your family, but I don't think you know how Jews feel towards Germans and Arabs either, and I believe the views you've expressed in this thread go way beyond that.


Fark you.

http://www.rijafilms.lv/category/distribution-galleries/historical-do c umentaries-from-siberia/
 
2012-08-23 12:32:38 AM  

muck4doo: By the way Mr. Keizer, you do indeed have an infatuation with Jews. Care to expand on it?


Fisrt point out my "infatuation" with them, because I haven't seen it.
 
2012-08-23 12:32:53 AM  

studebaker hoch: To me, the situation seems as if a white family had ancestral properties of great significance in the middle of Watts. They move in, build a nice house, dress the kids well and try to live their dreams. But they get attacked, endlessly, by the gangsters and thugs living all around. And so they fight back in self defense, people end up dead on both sides, and now it's a war. And the white family pleads rightfully that they can't walk to the park or even go out at night because there are scary mofos standing on the corners watching them constantly. And it will never stop. No matter how many get shot on either side, the war will continue, forever.


My Uncle and his family has lived in S. Central since the 50s. So he lived there as the neighborhood changed. He just had a 90th birthday and many of his neighbors came to it. It was a great party.

So there's that data point and since I live in Trek land there is also Federation and Klingons but also US and Russia, US and Japan, England France and Germany, US and China, Israel and Jordan (?), Dick Cheney and gays. Gays in America.

Trade opens, people talk, people get to know each other, people learn to live together, neighbors, relatives, and trading partners find it more difficult to fight.
 
2012-08-23 12:35:33 AM  

muck4doo: Keizer_Ghidorah: muck4doo: Keizer_Ghidorah: muck4doo: Keizer_Ghidorah: I don't give a damn if that chunk of desert and scorpions IS God's msot favorite place in the universe and Israelies ARE God's most favorite humans of all. We're not your goddamned attack dog, Israel. We've got better and more important things to do in our own fricking country, if you want to start up yet another holy war you can do it by your damn self.

Take care of the white man. It's serious business. Damn jews can wait.

Don't know where I said that, unless you think America is home to only Caucasians. A little racist there?

We've got enough problems at home that we can't seem to fix without our own political aprties fighting and biatching, we DON'T need to be wasting any more time, money, and manpower playing referee to a region where they've been murdering each other over religion for the last 2,000 years. Sorry if that sounds mean, but reality is often harsh.

Except that America has many allies, and enemies. The anti-semetic crowd hates that the Jews are Allies. When asked their reasons why, it's usually the typical Nazi and pan-Arabism propoganda. So shoot it to me. What is your reason for hating the jews?

I don't hate Jews. I hate stupid people. I hate people who fight over retarded reasons. I hate morons who can't stop slaughtering each other for ten seconds to realize that a two millennia blood feud isn't going to get them anything except more death and destruction. My rational mind can't wrap around the level of irrationality going on over there, a conflict over who's the most bestest favorite in the eyes of a fictional being and who gets to rule a sun-baked sand pile.

As far as I'm converned, EVERYONE over there is nuttier than a shiathouse rat. The sane ones are welcome to come over here or go elsewhere until the madness either finally blows over or results in apocalyptic destruction. Personally I hope it's the former, but at this point I'll welcome anything that will finally e ...


I wish "stop fighting over stupid shiat and be intelligent about it" was an ultimate truth. PRetty sure a lot of people wouldn't mind following it.
 
2012-08-23 12:35:45 AM  

RanDomino: muck4doo
Where is your outrage when Hamas sends rockets into Israel?

Let me know when Hamas carpets Israel in checkpoints, demolishes Israeli airports and power plants, restricts Israeli access to water, sequesters Israelis into isolated ghettoes that require intentionally excessively circuitous routes to pass between, denies Israel access to the Mediterranean, arrests members of the Knesset, arbitrarily denies Israelis building permits and sends in the bulldozers when they build anyway, and allows Palestinians to illegally take over apartment blocks in Tel Aviv and protects them with thousands of soldiers. Then I will give a fark.


You are the powertool elite of Hamas. We get it. Hamas is innocent, those damn jews deserve to die. Seig heil!Jews are tuining the world! Kill them all before they kill us! RanDomino is a racist tard that has been p[otsing this kind of crap for years, and needs to be called for the Nazi he is.
 
2012-08-23 12:38:29 AM  

consider this: The Germans and the Russians kicked Latvia's ass so this guy hates the Jews. Sounds logical.


If it wasnt for the Jews, the Germans would probably have never invaded and then the Russians wouldn't have been provoked into more slaughter.
 
2012-08-23 12:42:31 AM  

fatalvenom: consider this: The Germans and the Russians kicked Latvia's ass so this guy hates the Jews. Sounds logical.

If it wasnt for the Jews, the Germans would probably have never invaded and then the Russians wouldn't have been provoked into more slaughter.


Because the Germans totally weren't out to take over all of Europe and eventually the world.
 
2012-08-23 12:43:33 AM  
fatalvenom
the Jews

All of them, yeah?

OMG...someone can hate people.

The agony!?!?!?!?


Yes, that does in fact make you a terrible person.


yagottabefarkinkiddinme
They may be 100% correct as Iranian leaders keep saying just that.

they say they want nuclear power for civilian purposes only = ignore what they say
they say they want to destroy Israel = everything they say is true

we would lose an ally most likely forever

Worst. Ally. Ever.

The hundreds of thousands of people that could potentially die in such a situation, that's a problem, though.
 
2012-08-23 12:51:38 AM  

consider this: fatalvenom: If it wasnt for the Jews, the Germans would probably have never invaded and then the Russians wouldn't have been provoked into more slaughter.

Yeah, it's the Jews fault that Germany invaded Latvia. You're just flat out insane.


I beg to differ.

In any event, my antisemitic ass needs to get to sleep so I can work to make the 1% richer tomorrow.

Shalom.
 
2012-08-23 12:53:03 AM  
consider this
Guess that doesn't apply to the Jews, right?

At this point, it's like the American theft of Indian land- the original criminals and victims are largely dead, and now there are a lot of people who are living on stolen land through no fault of their own; it wouldn't be fair to kick them out either, and the people who would have inherited it don't know it personally either. So it's fair that practically all of Israel proper and probably most of the settlements should stay the way they are, since it's been a generation or two. But the most recent settlements, from the last decade at the very least, should definitely be removed.


muck4doo
RanDomino is a racist tard that has been p[otsing this kind of crap for years, and needs to be called for the Nazi he is.

I'm an Anarchist- I mainly only care about power relations. Israel overwhelmingly has the power in this situation. Any way you slice it the Palestinians are the victims here. The ethnic cleansing and land grab is nothing but a Primitive Accumulation for a civilization and economy that has run out of legitimately productive activities and has to resort to mass robbery. Sorry if you don't like being called out.
 
2012-08-23 12:53:53 AM  
fusillade762

This will not end well.

Correction:
This will not end.
 
2012-08-23 12:55:50 AM  
memedepot.com
I love you all. At least at this moment.
 
2012-08-23 01:01:11 AM  

RanDomino: consider this
Guess that doesn't apply to the Jews, right?

At this point, it's like the American theft of Indian land- the original criminals and victims are largely dead, and now there are a lot of people who are living on stolen land through no fault of their own; it wouldn't be fair to kick them out either, and the people who would have inherited it don't know it personally either. So it's fair that practically all of Israel proper and probably most of the settlements should stay the way they are, since it's been a generation or two. But the most recent settlements, from the last decade at the very least, should definitely be removed.


muck4doo
RanDomino is a racist tard that has been p[otsing this kind of crap for years, and needs to be called for the Nazi he is.

I'm an Anarchist- I mainly only care about power relations. Israel overwhelmingly has the power in this situation. Any way you slice it the Palestinians are the victims here. The ethnic cleansing and land grab is nothing but a Primitive Accumulation for a civilization and economy that has run out of legitimately productive activities and has to resort to mass robbery. Sorry if you don't like being called out.


I've see your posts for years. the answer is no. You are a straight up Jew hater that hides behind the "I'm just an anti-zionist" flag. We know you blame the jews for bringing their own problems in them and such, including rockets from gaza, but you aren't fooling anyone other than the racist idiots like yourself here on fark. Racist tards like yourself are just like the racists who say "I don't hate black people, I hate n******". Search out some day why you are such a hateful douche.
 
2012-08-23 01:02:39 AM  

fusillade762: This will not end well.


Truer words are rarely spoken on this site.
 
2012-08-23 01:03:14 AM  
muck4doo
I've see your posts for years. the answer is no. You are a straight up Jew hater that hides behind the "I'm just an anti-zionist" flag. We know you blame the jews for bringing their own problems in them and such, including rockets from gaza, but you aren't fooling anyone other than the racist idiots like yourself here on fark. Racist tards like yourself are just like the racists who say "I don't hate black people, I hate n******". Search out some day why you are such a hateful douche.

Whatever helps you sleep at night.
 
2012-08-23 01:06:12 AM  
"I'm not an anti-semetic, I'm anti-zionist=I don't hate black people, i hate n*iggers"
 
2012-08-23 01:10:34 AM  
RoyBatty

My Uncle and his family has lived in S. Central since the 50s. So he lived there as the neighborhood changed. He just had a 90th birthday and many of his neighbors came to it. It was a great party.

So there's that data point and since I live in Trek land there is also Federation and Klingons but also US and Russia, US and Japan, England France and Germany, US and China, Israel and Jordan (?), Dick Cheney and gays. Gays in America.

Trade opens, people talk, people get to know each other, people learn to live together, neighbors, relatives, and trading partners find it more difficult to fight.


My LA example falls short. Thugs and white boys and fight and sometimes kill one another, a few at a time maybe. And if you grew up with those kids, and stayed in the same place your whole life into adulthood, you could, maybe, pull it off, and I know it's been done though it would be a rough trip. But they're not suicide bombing each other, firing rockets, setting off bombs in restaurants and calling for all-out war, martyrdom, and terrorism.

The Middle East is far, far, worse than an iffy zip code in LA.

The best we can possibly hope for Israel is that "somehow it gets better". Peace would be the only answer long-term. Though most times in peace, there's an agreement of sorts, which generally means "you get some of what you want and I get some of what I want".

Compromise.

A few hot heads seem to not want to compromise. Perhaps once they have moved aside, things can get better.
 
2012-08-23 01:11:23 AM  
Don't bother, I'm just /ignoring you now.
 
2012-08-23 01:13:00 AM  

RanDomino: Don't bother, I'm just /ignoring you now.


Good. I don't need racists like yourself following me. Keep living your life of hate.
 
2012-08-23 01:55:43 AM  

logistic: Captain_Ballbeard: [cdn.theatlantic.com image 330x270]

Here are your "friends", America. A bunch of wild-eyed Middle Easterners using an ancient book as a real-estate deed and holding racist lynchings of "Palestinian animals" in public.

Apartheid and genocide, that's what you so vociferously support, America.

b-b-but Gods chosen people.... :/

So sick of the entire issue. If they didn't bankroll us, we would have already colonized them or threatened and sanctioned them into municipality status at best. The amount of times they've been busted stealing intel and influencing policy within the US government would have had any other citizen black bagged and executed or worse.

I say let them start their war and let them deal with it. They have absolutely zero in manufacturing or agriculture that we need right now. Let them fight their own war, wish them the best and close the farking door.



It's cute you believe that. Sure nobody else is doing that. Certainly not pharma, oil, the banking industry, wall street.... None of those guys ever do something as underhanded as influence US policy for their own gain! Certainly pharam does all of it's own work financing and researching drugs.

/be pissed at Israel if you want
//but don't try to pass them off as special, they're not.
 
2012-08-23 02:02:56 AM  

Killer Cars: Gyrfalcon: Maybe we don't like EITHER ONE OF THEM, you ever consider that?

No way. It's an entirely black & white world. You're either good or evil. Also, you have to pick sides. If two assholes want to rip each other to shreds, make a decision on who you think is a slightly lesser asshole, and you arm and fund the sh*t out of them. They will totally thank you for it and always act in our best national interests in the future. Trust me.


Dude, serious threadjack there, jeeze! I know the election is just around the corner, but does it have to come up in *every* thread?!

This is a thread about Israel and Iran.

/back to topic...
 
2012-08-23 02:39:38 AM  

cuzsis: Killer Cars: Gyrfalcon: Maybe we don't like EITHER ONE OF THEM, you ever consider that?

No way. It's an entirely black & white world. You're either good or evil. Also, you have to pick sides. If two assholes want to rip each other to shreds, make a decision on who you think is a slightly lesser asshole, and you arm and fund the sh*t out of them. They will totally thank you for it and always act in our best national interests in the future. Trust me.

Dude, serious threadjack there, jeeze! I know the election is just around the corner, but does it have to come up in *every* thread?!

This is a thread about Israel and Iran.

/back to topic...


In all fairness, Gryfalcon does now much about anal ripping tendencies among birds, and can tell you why one is moral, and the other isn't.
 
2012-08-23 03:17:20 AM  

Carousel Beast: GAT_00: Pocket Ninja: RoyBatty: Seems like a huge gulf between that and the headline.

Really? Seemed pretty farking dead on to me.

It's a helluva lot easier to stand up to Biff the playground bully when you've got Rick the linebacker standing behind you.

Now, now, this is very interesting. This is someone who apparently can only read literal statements, he has no ability to determine nuance. It's very interesting. It's like talking to a North Korean diplomat.

Also I have him Farkied as being a possible alt to You Know Who in these kind of threads, based on comment history.

Rally, because I have your dumb ass as

GAT_00 [TotalFark]
(favorite: [anti-Semite])

Because it fits, asshole.


Can I get that too because I farking hate jews

/thanks
 
2012-08-23 03:26:31 AM  

Acharne: detritus: ciberido: Zionists are not actually big fans of Jesus.

Christian Zionists believe they need to fulfill biblical prophecy to have Jesus come back. Jews on the other hand, reject Jesus, but are still awaiting the messiah. In order to fulfill Christian prophecy, the tribes of Israel need to be established.Acharne: detritus: Zionists believe they need to fulfill biblical prophecy to have Jesus come back. They are tired of waiting, which is why the settlements continue to be built in the West Bank.

This statement heavily implies you're not too clear on 'Zionist' and/or not really sure who Jesus was.

Christian Zionists believe in the second coming of Jesus. In order for that to happen, the Jews need to be in the holy land, thus our unwavering support for them. Jews don't accept Jesus, but they still are awaiting for their messiah. So they both feed off each other, expecting the same outcome, just only half of them believe Jesus is coming back and was a God. According to Christian belief, in the end days, the Jews who didn't believe in Jesus, along with those who already believe in Jesus, will be spared from damnation when Armageddon hits and Christ returns.

 
2012-08-23 04:08:00 AM  

consider this: untaken_name: Two at least, actually, since Arabs are also Semites, that makes consider this an anti-Semite also.

I never said I hate Arabs, only pointing out my belief that the Palestinians are the instigators and responsible for the bad shiat Israel unleashes on them. That's a far cry from chub making obviously racist comments about the entire Jewish race.


How can you say that? Its just not true. The Palestinians have been displaced and are basically held in concentration camps. Against multiple UN declarations new settlements are constantly being built in PALESTINIAN LAND - watch some interviews with these settlers (often from the USA it seems) they are sooooo certain of their right to just take this land that they will kill people for it and their religious fervor makes their eyes shine with holy zeal. Oh and their whole "It was our land 2000 years ago" is just jaw dropping in its bewildering ignorance and arrogance.
 
2012-08-23 04:22:02 AM  

fatalvenom: http://www.rijafilms.lv/category/distribution-galleries/historical-do c umentaries-from-siberia/


I can see where you would loath the Soviet Union (if it still existed) but I cannot figure where the people who follow Judaism come into it, why the hate? Pretty sure the Soviet Union treated them as badly as everyone else.
 
2012-08-23 04:38:46 AM  

kurtanglerookieyear: fatalvenom: consider this: fatalvenom: Have you noticed that throughout most of history, mostly everyone has hated the Jews except for, gasp, the Jews?

Yeah, those dirty Jews, always getting their ass kicked out of their homeland and trying to sneak back in.

Why did most of the countries hand over their Jew population to the Germans during WWII?

Hint: not because they wanted to protect the Jews

Hmm. So these European countries that merrily handed over their Jews... I guess they also enthusiastically gave up their sovereignty? Or maybe it was because they were getting blown to bits? Probably not.

This place is absolutely vile. I don't understand how veteran Farkers can take this kind of hatred and willful ignorance.


We're used to it!
 
2012-08-23 04:46:00 AM  

danielscissorhands: fatalvenom: consider this: untaken_name: It must be nice to be not racist like you.

It's not racist to point out the obviousness of a chubby Arab hating on Jews.

Es esmu Latvijas, jūsu faktus taisni tu farking ebrejs.

Oh, go back to Latvia, dude. You are a loser.


This
 
2012-08-23 06:20:25 AM  

Captain_Ballbeard(favorite: anti-semite bigot): [img855.imageshack.us image 529x453]


Hey look. It's the anti-semite posting old nazi propaganda. How quaint.
 
2012-08-23 06:25:25 AM  

fatalvenom: consider this: fatalvenom: If it wasnt for the Jews, the Germans would probably have never invaded and then the Russians wouldn't have been provoked into more slaughter.

Yeah, it's the Jews fault that Germany invaded Latvia. You're just flat out insane.

I beg to differ.

In any event, my antisemitic ass needs to get to sleep so I can work to make the 1% richer tomorrow.

Shalom.


This guy is retarded. I pity him. Hate destroys.
 
2012-08-23 06:26:31 AM  

muck4doo: "I'm not an anti-semetic, I'm anti-zionist=I don't hate black people, i hate n*iggers"


This is plain wrong.
 
2012-08-23 06:46:43 AM  

ransack.: muck4doo: "I'm not an anti-semetic, I'm anti-zionist=I don't hate black people, i hate n*iggers"

This is plain wrong.


No, it isn't. That is what racist tards sound like. If you hate the first example, look at yourself and see how you fit into it. You don't hate Jews. You only hate Jews that don't do as you say, am I right?
 
2012-08-23 07:20:36 AM  

RoyBatty: No, I'm not Tatsuma


Don't pretend, Alt.

Clearly all those times you chastised me and we vehemently disagreed on topic was only my/your ploy to make it look like I/you are not the same.

The truth is out, there is only one possible person on the internet who could ever possibly post in favor of Israel, and we all know its me. Every single poster who said something positive about Israel? Me. Bad anti-Israel posters? Me, trying to discredit them. Anti-semites? Me, all of them.

I am legion, for I am many.


/I love the fact that I have posted, what, 100 times in the last year, and yet I still get a shiatload of emails telling me that people are bringing me up and accusing others of being me.
//I think a lot of Farkers are really missing hating on me, so they need to redirect that hate somewhere else.
///Seriously, I am busy and I have a full life, I don't have time to argue on the internet anymore. Sorry about that ya'll.
////might start liveblogging when the next war kicks off, if bomb shelters have wi-fi
 
2012-08-23 07:51:59 AM  
Oh and I really would have to ask one question:

Can anyone tell me which war(s) America has fought for Israel, please?
 
2012-08-23 07:59:51 AM  

Tatsuma: Oh and I really would have to ask one question:

Can anyone tell me which war(s) America has fought for Israel, please?


We fight by proxy via the billions of dollars in arms we send to you scumbags
 
2012-08-23 08:11:19 AM  

RoyBatty: The only "alt" I have is JPFlathead which was my original username but "ditched" when my posting of the animated gif of the scanner's head exploding was deemed too graphic and was banned and had html removed from it.


I posted that same gif just fine. No mods.

but I post this:
www.spleck.net
and get a 24 hour ban for 'being graphic' because 'it looked like the puppy was frozen'

Go figure.
 
2012-08-23 08:25:24 AM  

Mazzic518: Tatsuma: Oh and I really would have to ask one question:

Can anyone tell me which war(s) America has fought for Israel, please?

We fight by proxy via the billions of dollars in arms we send to you scumbags


Protip: if he invites you over to his house for a barbecue, Tats, don't go.

/dangling joke involving ovens.
 
2012-08-23 08:25:53 AM  

Amigajoe: [idiosyncraticinklings.files.wordpress.com image 600x300]
Anyone who tries to harm Israel will taste "the deadly strength of the IDF,"


*dafuc?*
*wikipedia*
Damn you. Now I have to spend money.
 
2012-08-23 08:46:18 AM  

Tatsuma: RoyBatty: No, I'm not Tatsuma

Don't pretend, Alt.

Clearly all those times you chastised me and we vehemently disagreed on topic was only my/your ploy to make it look like I/you are not the same.

The truth is out, there is only one possible person on the internet who could ever possibly post in favor of Israel, and we all know its me. Every single poster who said something positive about Israel? Me. Bad anti-Israel posters? Me, trying to discredit them. Anti-semites? Me, all of them.

I am legion, for I am many.


/I love the fact that I have posted, what, 100 times in the last year, and yet I still get a shiatload of emails telling me that people are bringing me up and accusing others of being me.
//I think a lot of Farkers are really missing hating on me, so they need to redirect that hate somewhere else.
///Seriously, I am busy and I have a full life, I don't have time to argue on the internet anymore. Sorry about that ya'll.
////might start liveblogging when the next war kicks off, if bomb shelters have wi-fi


For the record, I've missed your posts, Tats.

/EIP if you do the blogging thing.
 
2012-08-23 09:01:55 AM  
The hate is strong here. I bet all you farkers would be great and driving trains, operating ovens, and guarding camps. Imagine if you hated terrorists as much as you hate Jews? World would be a safe place.
 
2012-08-23 09:02:46 AM  

Tatsuma: RoyBatty: No, I'm not Tatsuma

Don't pretend, Alt.

Clearly all those times you chastised me and we vehemently disagreed on topic was only my/your ploy to make it look like I/you are not the same.

The truth is out, there is only one possible person on the internet who could ever possibly post in favor of Israel, and we all know its me. Every single poster who said something positive about Israel? Me. Bad anti-Israel posters? Me, trying to discredit them. Anti-semites? Me, all of them.

I am legion, for I am many.


/I love the fact that I have posted, what, 100 times in the last year, and yet I still get a shiatload of emails telling me that people are bringing me up and accusing others of being me.
//I think a lot of Farkers are really missing hating on me, so they need to redirect that hate somewhere else.
///Seriously, I am busy and I have a full life, I don't have time to argue on the internet anymore. Sorry about that ya'll.
////might start liveblogging when the next war kicks off, if bomb shelters have wi-fi


They don't hate you tats, they just hate the jews that don't agree with them. Get it now?
 
2012-08-23 09:10:08 AM  
The fark elite: "Why don't you Jews just lay down and die?" Then maybe you will have as much dignity as me, sitting in my dorm at UC Santa Cruz.
 
2012-08-23 09:16:33 AM  
Fark has no king but Ceasar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbwUF-wykDU
 
2012-08-23 09:23:34 AM  

consider this: Mazzic518: Tatsuma: Oh and I really would have to ask one question:

Can anyone tell me which war(s) America has fought for Israel, please?

We fight by proxy via the billions of dollars in arms we send to you scumbags

Shouldn't you be getting ready for terrorist training camp?


No , my flight does not leave till this afternoon
 
2012-08-23 09:25:57 AM  

Kit Fister: Mazzic518: Tatsuma: Oh and I really would have to ask one question:

Can anyone tell me which war(s) America has fought for Israel, please?

We fight by proxy via the billions of dollars in arms we send to you scumbags

Protip: if he invites you over to his house for a barbecue, Tats, don't go.

/dangling joke involving ovens.


His fat head would not fit in my oven

/you don't BBQ in an oven anyways you do it on a grill
 
2012-08-23 09:27:30 AM  

Thunderpipes: The hate is strong here. I bet all you farkers would be great and driving trains, operating ovens, and guarding camps. Imagine if you hated terrorists as much as you hate Jews? World would be a safe place.


Jews ... terrorists... but I repeat myself
 
2012-08-23 09:39:55 AM  

muck4doo: ransack.: muck4doo: "I'm not an anti-semetic, I'm anti-zionist=I don't hate black people, i hate n*iggers"

This is plain wrong.

No, it isn't. That is what racist tards sound like. If you hate the first example, look at yourself and see how you fit into it. You don't hate Jews. You only hate Jews that don't do as you say, am I right?


No, it's possible to not hate the Jews and also not want them to have their own country.
 
2012-08-23 09:42:05 AM  
I don't hate Catholics, but I don't think they should have their own sovereign nation, either.
 
2012-08-23 09:47:32 AM  

Somaticasual: Here's a fun excercise -

1. Place a nuclear weapon in the capital plaza (or within the blast radius of all important buildings) of each country that wants to make war.
2. Lock 1 diplomat from each country in a room in a far-off land that will survive the blast, with the detonation button for each city on a high ceiling. Make it so that all parties would have to work together to reach said button, but could not fashion any implements do so with only one person.
3. Film the hairpulling and fist-fighting that would ensue, and sell access to the Pay-Per-View. Because that way, at least someone wins the current game.


Wasn't that the plot of The Dark Night?
 
2012-08-23 09:48:07 AM  

ransack.: muck4doo: ransack.: muck4doo: "I'm not an anti-semetic, I'm anti-zionist=I don't hate black people, i hate n*iggers"

This is plain wrong.

No, it isn't. That is what racist tards sound like. If you hate the first example, look at yourself and see how you fit into it. You don't hate Jews. You only hate Jews that don't do as you say, am I right?

No, it's possible to not hate the Jews and also not want them to have their own country.


Yeah, okay there mister "I just hate zionists" guy. Keep telling yourself that.
 
2012-08-23 09:49:35 AM  

muck4doo: ransack.: muck4doo: ransack.: muck4doo: "I'm not an anti-semetic, I'm anti-zionist=I don't hate black people, i hate n*iggers"

This is plain wrong.

No, it isn't. That is what racist tards sound like. If you hate the first example, look at yourself and see how you fit into it. You don't hate Jews. You only hate Jews that don't do as you say, am I right?

No, it's possible to not hate the Jews and also not want them to have their own country.

Yeah, okay there mister "I just hate zionists" guy. Keep telling yourself that.


Nation states should not be governed by members of organized religions.

This is my belief.

I don't hate anyone.
 
2012-08-23 09:56:54 AM  

ransack.: muck4doo: ransack.: muck4doo: ransack.: muck4doo: "I'm not an anti-semetic, I'm anti-zionist=I don't hate black people, i hate n*iggers"

This is plain wrong.

No, it isn't. That is what racist tards sound like. If you hate the first example, look at yourself and see how you fit into it. You don't hate Jews. You only hate Jews that don't do as you say, am I right?

No, it's possible to not hate the Jews and also not want them to have their own country.

Yeah, okay there mister "I just hate zionists" guy. Keep telling yourself that.

Nation states should not be governed by members of organized religions.

This is my belief.

I don't hate anyone.


Yet it's the Jews you hate for doing so. Do you have any awareness of the countries they are surrounded by? I know you have no king but Ceaser, but it is par for the region. I don't hate Saudi Arabia for what they are. You have in your little brain decided you know what is best for everyone. The world disagrees, and now you are an angry little sad sack.
 
2012-08-23 10:07:26 AM  

muck4doo: ransack.: muck4doo: ransack.: muck4doo: ransack.: muck4doo: "I'm not an anti-semetic, I'm anti-zionist=I don't hate black people, i hate n*iggers"

This is plain wrong.

No, it isn't. That is what racist tards sound like. If you hate the first example, look at yourself and see how you fit into it. You don't hate Jews. You only hate Jews that don't do as you say, am I right?

No, it's possible to not hate the Jews and also not want them to have their own country.

Yeah, okay there mister "I just hate zionists" guy. Keep telling yourself that.

Nation states should not be governed by members of organized religions.

This is my belief.

I don't hate anyone.

Yet it's the Jews you hate for doing so. Do you have any awareness of the countries they are surrounded by? I know you have no king but Ceaser, but it is par for the region. I don't hate Saudi Arabia for what they are. You have in your little brain decided you know what is best for everyone. The world disagrees, and now you are an angry little sad sack.


I don't care what they do, and beyond voting, I don't impose my views on anyone.

I'm just saying that anybody who believes in a sky-god should not govern a nation, because the well-being of your constituents will never be your top priority. I don't care if you're Jewish, Mormon, Catholic, Buddhist, Muslim, whatever. None of these people should have nuclear weapons or power over other men.

I don't think there should be a country for just white people. Does that mean I hate white people?
 
2012-08-23 10:10:45 AM  

ransack.: I'm just saying that anybody who believes in a sky-god should not govern a nation,


Like i said, you believe in your pointed head, that you have found an ultimate truth, Everyone should believe in your truth, and govern from there. Those who don't believe like you do need to be done away with. You are an authoritarian douche who shouldn't even be in charge of running a dog pound.
 
2012-08-23 10:12:45 AM  

muck4doo: ransack.: I'm just saying that anybody who believes in a sky-god should not govern a nation,

Like i said, you believe in your pointed head, that you have found an ultimate truth, Everyone should believe in your truth, and govern from there. Those who don't believe like you do need to be done away with. You are an authoritarian douche who shouldn't even be in charge of running a dog pound.


I don't think there should be a country for just white people. Does that mean I hate white people?
 
2012-08-23 10:15:14 AM  

GammaTitan: Of course, it's a no-win situation. If the Israeli's go in and lose, other allies will question our resolve to help with the chips are down. If they go in and win, other allies will question whether they need our help at all.


And why exactly would fewer countries relying on American military rather than building their own (like, oh, I don't know, most of Europe) be a bad thing? We need to go back to "allies" meaning "I got your back if someone jumps you", not "feel free to go poke the neighborhood bully and when you come running home I'll pound him for you".
 
2012-08-23 10:16:55 AM  

ransack.: muck4doo: ransack.: I'm just saying that anybody who believes in a sky-god should not govern a nation,

Like i said, you believe in your pointed head, that you have found an ultimate truth, Everyone should believe in your truth, and govern from there. Those who don't believe like you do need to be done away with. You are an authoritarian douche who shouldn't even be in charge of running a dog pound.

I don't think there should be a country for just white people. Does that mean I hate white people?


You think religious people have no business running a country. Only those who hail and worship Caeser like yourself should do so. All hail the new Atheist overlords. Oh wait, we tried this before. Look up Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao for more info. Wonderful guys they all were.
 
2012-08-23 10:24:51 AM  
fark that noise. the america shouldn't support either side in these conflicts, both sides are asshat douchecanoes. we should do what is good for us, how is support israel good for us? hint: it's not.
 
2012-08-23 10:25:13 AM  
Nukes are a great deterrent and not much else.
 
2012-08-23 10:25:50 AM  

muck4doo: ransack.: muck4doo: ransack.: I'm just saying that anybody who believes in a sky-god should not govern a nation,

Like i said, you believe in your pointed head, that you have found an ultimate truth, Everyone should believe in your truth, and govern from there. Those who don't believe like you do need to be done away with. You are an authoritarian douche who shouldn't even be in charge of running a dog pound.

I don't think there should be a country for just white people. Does that mean I hate white people?

You think religious people have no business running a country. Only those who hail and worship Caeser like yourself should do so. All hail the new Atheist overlords. Oh wait, we tried this before. Look up Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao for more info. Wonderful guys they all were.


Yes, correct. I'm glad you understand now why and how I can simultaneously oppose a Jewish state and not harbor hatred for the Jewish people.
 
2012-08-23 10:29:46 AM  

ransack.: muck4doo: ransack.: muck4doo: ransack.: I'm just saying that anybody who believes in a sky-god should not govern a nation,

Like i said, you believe in your pointed head, that you have found an ultimate truth, Everyone should believe in your truth, and govern from there. Those who don't believe like you do need to be done away with. You are an authoritarian douche who shouldn't even be in charge of running a dog pound.

I don't think there should be a country for just white people. Does that mean I hate white people?

You think religious people have no business running a country. Only those who hail and worship Caeser like yourself should do so. All hail the new Atheist overlords. Oh wait, we tried this before. Look up Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao for more info. Wonderful guys they all were.

Yes, correct. I'm glad you understand now why and how I can simultaneously oppose a Jewish state and not harbor hatred for the Jewish people.


Use whatever excuse to ease your hatred. Just because you hate people who don't adhere to your found truths, doesn't mean you're a bad person, right?
 
2012-08-23 10:33:24 AM  

muck4doo: ransack.: muck4doo: ransack.: I'm just saying that anybody who believes in a sky-god should not govern a nation,

Like i said, you believe in your pointed head, that you have found an ultimate truth, Everyone should believe in your truth, and govern from there. Those who don't believe like you do need to be done away with. You are an authoritarian douche who shouldn't even be in charge of running a dog pound.

I don't think there should be a country for just white people. Does that mean I hate white people?

You think religious people have no business running a country. Only those who hail and worship Caeser like yourself should do so. All hail the new Atheist overlords. Oh wait, we tried this before. Look up Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao for more info. Wonderful guys they all were.


Also, notice I said organized religion. I don't care if my leader believes in God, I just don't want them being told what God thinks and wants done in His name by some Priest or Ayatollah or whatever.
 
2012-08-23 10:43:14 AM  

ransack.: muck4doo: ransack.: muck4doo: ransack.: I'm just saying that anybody who believes in a sky-god should not govern a nation,

Like i said, you believe in your pointed head, that you have found an ultimate truth, Everyone should believe in your truth, and govern from there. Those who don't believe like you do need to be done away with. You are an authoritarian douche who shouldn't even be in charge of running a dog pound.

I don't think there should be a country for just white people. Does that mean I hate white people?

You think religious people have no business running a country. Only those who hail and worship Caeser like yourself should do so. All hail the new Atheist overlords. Oh wait, we tried this before. Look up Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao for more info. Wonderful guys they all were.

Also, notice I said organized religion. I don't care if my leader believes in God, I just don't want them being told what God thinks and wants done in His name by some Priest or Ayatollah or whatever.


Running with the goal posts again? How about if they think they are being told what to do by Marx?

Fark lib foreign policy explained: Link
 
2012-08-23 10:47:33 AM  

muck4doo: ransack.: muck4doo: ransack.: muck4doo: ransack.: I'm just saying that anybody who believes in a sky-god should not govern a nation,

Like i said, you believe in your pointed head, that you have found an ultimate truth, Everyone should believe in your truth, and govern from there. Those who don't believe like you do need to be done away with. You are an authoritarian douche who shouldn't even be in charge of running a dog pound.

I don't think there should be a country for just white people. Does that mean I hate white people?

You think religious people have no business running a country. Only those who hail and worship Caeser like yourself should do so. All hail the new Atheist overlords. Oh wait, we tried this before. Look up Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao for more info. Wonderful guys they all were.

Also, notice I said organized religion. I don't care if my leader believes in God, I just don't want them being told what God thinks and wants done in His name by some Priest or Ayatollah or whatever.

Running with the goal posts again? How about if they think they are being told what to do by Marx?

Fark lib foreign policy explained: Link


Well, he's dead, so that person would be mentally ill.
 
2012-08-23 10:52:18 AM  
Same old song and dance from tats and his backups singers. I don't hate you. I simply don't care. If Israel lives on for another thousand years or gets razed from the ground next week, I could care less. You're not better than anyone else, regardless what book of fiction your propagate your beliefs on.
 
2012-08-23 10:58:52 AM  

JeffDudeLebowski: Same old song and dance from tats and his backups singers. I don't hate you. I simply don't care. If Israel lives on for another thousand years or gets razed from the ground next week, I could care less. You're not better than anyone else, regardless what book of fiction your propagate your beliefs on.


You don't care enough to have posted in this thread. Oh wait, you did. You're not so hip after all.
 
2012-08-23 11:03:59 AM  
"When a person says, 'zionist,' what they really mean is, 'Jew.'"

- Martin Luther King Jr.

Still true today.

/oh, and the Israelis responsible for the attempted lynching of Jamal Julani were arrested by Isrraeli police and are being held in custody pending trial
//the Palestinians responsible for lynching Vadim Nurzhitz and Yossi Avrahami are still treated as heroes, and Hamas eventually won their release by trading Gilad Shalit for them
 
2012-08-23 11:35:35 AM  
Tatterdemalian
"When a person says, 'zionist,' what they really mean is, 'Jew.'"
- Martin Luther King Jr.


[citation needed]
 
2012-08-23 11:44:35 AM  

GAT_00: BitwiseShift: As a protest, Iran promises to only watch NCIS re-runs before Ziva.

Kate > Ziva.

Yeah I said it.


Greened

/Seconded
 
2012-08-23 12:33:43 PM  

consider this: dr_blasto: WTF would you do if you found yourself displaced from your home, forced to live in a camp or burnt out city with only limited resources in the form of water or power and no lawful travel rights?

I'm not advocating rocket attacks on civilians. I think that's horrendous, but the world the Palestinians are forced to accept is also horrendous.


Yeah, if only they had somewhere else to go.

[allfaith.com image 400x298]


Difficulty on your map there:

a) Pretty much everything north of Iraq or Syria are very much NOT Arab, to the point that you'll get an equivalent reaction by calling them "Arab" if you called a Korean person "Japanese". (Which is to say, being punched in the nose would be a MILD reaction, and threats to murderise you might well happen. Especially so in the case of Turks and Iranians.)

b) It's also rather iffy to call Sudan (as you depicted on the map) and Libya "Arab" either; Libya is where you start getting into a lot of Berber population (different group entirely than Arabs, of note) and Sudan (as depicted on the map) is before the country split into an Arab-majority half (modern Sudan) and a sub-Saharan-African majority half (South Sudan, the newest country in the world).

Yes, I know you're a professional Concern Troll, but figured I'd point that out. :D

Also notably missing on your World Tour of Ebil, Ebil Moslem Countries That Disagree With Israeli Occupation Of The West Bank And Gaza--Indonesia and Malaysia, both countries with mainline Sunni Moslem majorities and (population-wise) being the largest combined population of Moslems on Earth. Of course, they're also moderates, so apparently they don't count--apparently any Moslem country that pretty much up and calls Al-Qaida a bunch of fundamentalist asshats that have no place in civilised society don't count..

Also, missing Morocco (but they're Sufi-heavy so they don't count), Mali (which, ironically, IS having some rather serious issues with Wahhabists claiming connections to Al-Qaida presently wrecking Timbuktu because apparently Sufi Islam isn't Islamic enough--this would be roughly equivalent to "Jesus Camp" NARasites blowing up Quaker meeting houses, as an aside), and a few other countries that do have considerable Moslem populations but also trend less on the international "attention whore" scale. :D
 
2012-08-23 12:43:22 PM  

yagottabefarkinkiddinme: If Israel attacks Iran I think we must assist. Israel thinks that they must attack or risk being wiped out, off the map, a second holocaust.

If Israel is pushed to the point where they have to use their undeclared arsenal on their enemy, everyone loses. If Israel attacks and loses...and does not use their undeclared arsenal, the weapons fall into the wrong hands. We cannot afford either risk, so we have to assist in my estimation.


Exactly HOW are they going to attack?

First, Israel won't use their nuclear arsenal unless it is a last resort from being attacked an invaded, and complete destruction is nye. Every country in the world, including the USA would denounce them if they did use nuclear weapons unprovoked and as a 'first-strike' option. A large majority of Americans would most likely call for all aid to Israel to stop and sanctions (if not military action) against them.

For me, I believe Israel will all out attack out of self preservation. They have been provoked and have a legitimate weed up their ass.

Second, Israel has no way to fly over and bomb Iran's nuclear program from existence. Not only is Iran's nuclear program deep underground and some cases, under civilian buildings but the Israeli air force has no "o.k." for overflights from any of the nations between Israel and Iran.

I'm going to quote RandomRandom:

That's Israel's problem, they can't make a serious dent in Iran's deeply buried program without the US carrying nearly all the load. The Pentagon estimates it would take a a few weeks of US air power to put a serious dent in Iran's deeply buried underground assets. Israel has less than 5% of our air assets and they have no aircraft carriers. They have no force projection.

This means Israel would have to send their air forces over unfriendly territory for a month or longer, just to reach Iran. Not just fighters, (and Bombers/multi-role aircraft) but mid-air refuelers. A continuous air war flying over either Saudi Arabia, Iraq, or Turkey.

Option 1. Iraq. Iraq has no meaningful air force, but their government would threaten to kick the US completely out of the country in favor of the Russians or Chinese if we didn't quickly stop Israeli overflights. Our oil industry won't want us kicked out, Obama won't want us kicked out, hell, every single veteran of the Iraq war won't want us diplomatically booted from Iraq. With the backing of the Russians and/or Chinese, Israel would have to stop the overflights. Obama cannot allow the Russians or Chinese to take over our role in Iraq, so Obama would have to stop the overflights. That might give Israel a week, no longer.

Option 2. Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia's leadership wouldn't mind one bit were Israel to blow the fark out of Iran's nuclear program, but the populace would start tearing down the palace walls within 72 hours if the overflights didn't cease. At most, Israel would get a week, but I doubt they'd get that long. Given the possibility that tacitly allowing such overflights could initiate a Saudi Arab Spring, they may not get a minute. The Saudi's can definitely protect their own air space, they also have a defence pact with the US.

Option 3. Turkey. Turkey would shoot down the Israeli planes and call in NATO article 5 (which supersedes the US/Israeli alliance). All NATO members would be forced to stop the Israeli overflights, militarily and economically. Israel wouldn't risk Turkish overflights.

Option 4. Georgia. Georgia was considering allowing the Israelis basing rights, but that was before they tangled with Russia. Since it would require overflights of Azerbaijan or Russia, that has to be completely off the table now.

Option 5. Fly around Saudi Arabia through the Red Sea and Indian Ocean. It's a 7,000 mile round trip. It might work for a "30 seconds over Tokyo" sort of raid. A raid that would shake up Iran but do no real damage. The distance is too long for any meaningful number sorties to be sent. Unless Israel has been hiding an aircraft carrier they lack both the technical and political means to accomplish this mission.

Add all this up and it becomes very clear that Israel is completely full of shiat. They know they don't have the means to dent Iran's ambitions. We know they don't have the means, Iran knows they don't have the means. They can only put a tiny dent in Iran's nuclear program.

Israel is not going to use nuclear weapons against Iran as then that will start (at the very least) an arms race in the Middle-east and VALIDATE Iran in their quest for nuclear weapons.
 
2012-08-23 12:48:57 PM  

ciberido: detritus: Zionists believe they need to fulfill biblical prophecy to have Jesus come back. They are tired of waiting, which is why the settlements continue to be built in the West Bank.

Zionists are not actually big fans of Jesus.


I think what he's referring to are not Jewish Zionists (who actually have had some historical argument with Orthodox Jewish communities in the US over the matter of whether Israel should be restored before the Mosaich comes) but in fact are "Christian Zionists", and in particular premillenial dispensationalists and quasi-premillenial-dispensationalists in certain neopentecostal communities in the US.

The latter actually DO have a rather bizarre end-of-the-world scenario (fictionalised in the Left Behind books, and originating in full form in the Scofield Reference Bible circa 1917 or so) that actually dictates that some critical mass of the world's Jewish population must end up in Israel (the creation of Israel as a state generally is claimed to be a sign of the imminent Rapture); post-Rapture, supposedly all of the world's Jewish population (even those populations in New York who think the Zionists were a bit hasty with their plans) are supposed to be herded to Israel (since converted into a mega-ghetto), two post-Rapture convertees to "Messianic Judaism" get martyred, and eventually trigger a mass conversion of at least 144,000 of the world's Jewish population to kosher neopentecostalism, and then Jesus comes back with Joel's Army and kills everyone who isn't the Right Kind Of Christian (The End).

(Yes, pretty much the only reason that the dominionists have their Israel Fetish is so the world's Jewish population end up in the world's biggest ghetto to be oppressed by the Antichrist and end up as the Right Kind Of Christian in what amounts to the Last Great Tent Revival. I think it would honestly behoove Jewish organisations to know and recognise this before allowing dominionist partnership with ANYTHING--the head of the ADL caught hell a few years back when he (rightfully) pointed this out, but there are groups now (such as Jews on First) that ARE warning Jewish folks to be careful re dominionist associations due to how they're seen in neopente end-time theology.)

Some variants pretty much claim that Jesus can't come back (for the Rapture) until a critical mass of Jewish people in Israel are converted to "Messianic Judaism", again, the figure of 144,000 sometimes comes up.
 
2012-08-23 12:51:52 PM  

muck4doo: ransack.: muck4doo: ransack.: I'm just saying that anybody who believes in a sky-god should not govern a nation,

Like i said, you believe in your pointed head, that you have found an ultimate truth, Everyone should believe in your truth, and govern from there. Those who don't believe like you do need to be done away with. You are an authoritarian douche who shouldn't even be in charge of running a dog pound.

I don't think there should be a country for just white people. Does that mean I hate white people?

You think religious people have no business running a country. Only those who hail and worship Caeser like yourself should do so. All hail the new Atheist overlords. Oh wait, we tried this before. Look up Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao for more info. Wonderful guys they all were.


Yes, they're famous for screaming "IN THE NAME OF DARWIN!!" as their fish-with-legs-emblazoned war machines screamed and slaughtered only the religious to slake the bloodthirst of the Evolution God. They only wanted athiests and evolutionists to have a free land only for them where they could practice their athiesm in peace.

Always amusing and sad how you people keep bringing them us as "examples" of "athiest" mass murderers, ignoring that it was political power and policies that drove them.
 
2012-08-23 01:25:43 PM  
israel is afraid of a truly balanced, level, playing field.

that is why your friends are made to suffer.
 
2012-08-23 01:28:27 PM  
Reading this while hungover = bad idea

/ow my brain
 
2012-08-23 01:33:32 PM  

consider this: Bschott007: Add all this up and it becomes very clear that Israel is completely full of shiat. They know they don't have the means to dent Iran's ambitions.

They can fly straight through Syria and Iraq. They also have advanced ballistic missiles.


No, they can't. The Iraqi people would scream bloody murder and the Iraqi government would demand that the US either stop the overflights or the Iraqi government would have the Russians stop the overflights for them. Israel isn't stupid enough to tangle with Russia.

Their advanced ballistic missiles mean nothing. Really. Israel isn't going to nuke Iran for one, and using BMs for conventional payloads is a stupid use of equipment. Not only could it trigger an all out war (and make Russia/US/China very nervous to see a BM flying in the air), it is a very expensive way to deliver a small conventional payload.
 
2012-08-23 02:20:28 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: muck4doo: ransack.: muck4doo: ransack.: I'm just saying that anybody who believes in a sky-god should not govern a nation,

Like i said, you believe in your pointed head, that you have found an ultimate truth, Everyone should believe in your truth, and govern from there. Those who don't believe like you do need to be done away with. You are an authoritarian douche who shouldn't even be in charge of running a dog pound.

I don't think there should be a country for just white people. Does that mean I hate white people?

You think religious people have no business running a country. Only those who hail and worship Caeser like yourself should do so. All hail the new Atheist overlords. Oh wait, we tried this before. Look up Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao for more info. Wonderful guys they all were.

Yes, they're famous for screaming "IN THE NAME OF DARWIN!!" as their fish-with-legs-emblazoned war machines screamed and slaughtered only the religious to slake the bloodthirst of the Evolution God. They only wanted athiests and evolutionists to have a free land only for them where they could practice their athiesm in peace.

Always amusing and sad how you people keep bringing them us as "examples" of "athiest" mass murderers, ignoring that it was political power and policies that drove them.


Ah, they weren't true Scotsmen then?
 
2012-08-23 03:18:11 PM  

Bschott007: Add all this up and it becomes very clear that Israel is completely full of shiat. They know they don't have the means to dent Iran's ambitions. We know they don't have the means, Iran knows they don't have the means. They can only put a tiny dent in Iran's nuclear program.Israel is not going to use nuclear weapons against Iran as then that will start (at the very least) an arms race in the Middle-east and VALIDATE Iran in their quest for nuclear weapons.


I know very little about Israel's real and actual options, but your analysis seems to agree with what I've read. While I truly don't want to see any war or strike against Iran, I am curious from a spy novel stance, as to just what the Israelis think they can do and how would they do that?

I think the lesson I've learned from watching Desert Storm and the Iraq War and even Libya is that shock and awe and short term strikes really do very little and much less than initially thought.

World Nut Daily is pushing a story that Israel will launch a nuclear EMP attack against Iran (or even the entire Middle East). Link
 
2012-08-23 03:20:36 PM  
Hey Tatsuma you wily old alt-master, I miss your more frequent posting too, but I am glad to hear your life is busy.

Should the "opportunity" arise for you to be live-blogging the next war, I will expect you to submit a link.

/Not actually GAT_00
 
2012-08-23 03:38:03 PM  

muck4doo:
Use whatever excuse to ease your hatred. Just because you hate people who don't adhere to your found truths, doesn't mean you're a bad person, right?


Do all Texans talk like this or did you just have a stroke or something?
 
2012-08-23 04:15:07 PM  

logistic: muck4doo:
Use whatever excuse to ease your hatred. Just because you hate people who don't adhere to your found truths, doesn't mean you're a bad person, right?

Do all Texans talk like this or did you just have a stroke or something?


The hate in your head is thick. Not only do you hate Jews, but Texans too. What a sad little life you lead.
 
2012-08-23 04:45:21 PM  
After reading through this I really think a lot of you need to pick up a history book and read it especially that poster with the comment of Israel picking fights and then running to the USA for help in fighting them. I really liked the stupidity of the Israel never acts out without consent from the USA I can name three times right off the top of my head and the last one was only a few years ago. The Arabic people have always been the aggressors and an instigators when you see Israel strike it is in response. The issue with the settlements is because the Arabic people lost that land to Israel in a war that they themselves started and lost.

I would support Israel over the Arabic nations any day of the week and if you knew anything about Arabic history you would too.
 
2012-08-23 05:08:48 PM  

muck4doo:
The hate in your head is thick. Not only do you hate Jews, but Texans too. What a sad little life you lead.


Awww, you think you're worth hating lol keep dreaming, kid. I just feel a little sorry for you, like any mentally handicapped child I pass in the mall that reeks of the crap in its pants. But no, not hate. My hate is wayyyyy to valuable to be wasted on Texans or Israel.
 
2012-08-23 05:19:54 PM  

muck4doo: Keizer_Ghidorah: muck4doo: ransack.: muck4doo: ransack.: I'm just saying that anybody who believes in a sky-god should not govern a nation,

Like i said, you believe in your pointed head, that you have found an ultimate truth, Everyone should believe in your truth, and govern from there. Those who don't believe like you do need to be done away with. You are an authoritarian douche who shouldn't even be in charge of running a dog pound.

I don't think there should be a country for just white people. Does that mean I hate white people?

You think religious people have no business running a country. Only those who hail and worship Caeser like yourself should do so. All hail the new Atheist overlords. Oh wait, we tried this before. Look up Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao for more info. Wonderful guys they all were.

Yes, they're famous for screaming "IN THE NAME OF DARWIN!!" as their fish-with-legs-emblazoned war machines screamed and slaughtered only the religious to slake the bloodthirst of the Evolution God. They only wanted athiests and evolutionists to have a free land only for them where they could practice their athiesm in peace.

Always amusing and sad how you people keep bringing them us as "examples" of "athiest" mass murderers, ignoring that it was political power and policies that drove them.

Ah, they weren't true Scotsmen then?


How is it "no true Scotsman"? They didn't do what they did "in the name of athiesm". They did it because they were horrible people on a power trip who saw many people as threats or tools, religious people included. They didn't kill people for not believing in evolution or simply because they believed in a deity. Don't know why you keep trying to equate the two sides with "Well, religious people committed atrocities because of their religion, so non-religious people committed atrocities because of their non-religion".

The Crusades, the Inquisition, and the Salem witch hunts happened because of religion.
Stalin and Mao happened because of evil people drunk on power.
 
2012-08-23 05:58:54 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: The Crusades, the Inquisition, and the Salem witch hunts happened because of religion.
Stalin and Mao happened because of evil people drunk on power.


Well, it's a little bit more complex than that--there has been a very good argument (made by parties studying coercive religious groups and coercive movements) that the personality cults around Stalin and Mao may count as "para-religions" as a sort...more properly, coercive religious groups and coercive political movements (such as the Maoist and Stalinist regimes) share so many characteristics between each other that they resemble each other more than (say) coercive religious groups resemble non-coercive mainline faiths or how personality cults resemble non-coercive political movements.

(This is actually why the trend in the Republican Party and its hijacking by dominionist groups (and to a lesser extent, personality cults) is concerning. Many of the groups within the dominionist movement (especially Christian Reconstructionists and New Apostolic Reformation-linked groups) are considered frankly coercive, and their major political wings are recognised as bona fide hate groups due to the extent of false info given in their "informational control" of their members; especially since the mid-2000s (but to greater or lesser extent since the beginnings of the steeplejacking of the GOP in the 60s to early 70s) it seems the coercive tactics that have had a long history of use within dominionist groups seem to be bleeding over into the GOP in general as organisational strategy. Cliff's Notes version: If the GOP party line seems more and more like cult-think, it's because it is...from the coercive religious groups that have taken it over from within and have a stranglehold on the elephant's trunk.)
 
2012-08-23 09:07:11 PM  
Profedius
The issue with the settlements is because the Arabic people lost that land to Israel in a war that they themselves started and lost.

Seizing land through war is against international law. Taking land from civilians is a war crime, as is moving civilians into disputed territory (even indirectly such as through housing subsidies). Doing what Israel has been doing to the Palestinians because a bunch of other people lost a war decades ago, or even because of contemporary terrorism, is collective punishment, which is - you guessed it - a crime against humanity.

/not saying I agree with law, just pointing out the hypocrisy
 
2012-08-23 11:26:47 PM  
Israel, shut the f*ck up. Seriously. If you were under attack, that'd be one thing--I'd be waving flags myself. But not only are you not under attack, you're provoking fights. Sit down, shut up, and start finding a way to play nice with your neighbors.
 
2012-08-24 10:05:45 AM  

RanDomino: Profedius
The issue with the settlements is because the Arabic people lost that land to Israel in a war that they themselves started and lost.

Seizing land through war is against international law. Taking land from civilians is a war crime, as is moving civilians into disputed territory (even indirectly such as through housing subsidies). Doing what Israel has been doing to the Palestinians because a bunch of other people lost a war decades ago, or even because of contemporary terrorism, is collective punishment, which is - you guessed it - a crime against humanity.

/not saying I agree with law, just pointing out the hypocrisy


I don't agree with the law I think it is feel good law meant to protect the losers of a conflict. I also do not agree with the actions of Israel towards the Palestinians. I support Israel mainly due to their actions in dealing with the matter and their ability to create a somewhat stable government.
 
2012-08-24 10:24:00 AM  

RanDomino: Seizing land through war is against international law.


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2012-08-24 02:01:38 PM  

logistic: muck4doo:
The hate in your head is thick. Not only do you hate Jews, but Texans too. What a sad little life you lead.

Awww, you think you're worth hating lol keep dreaming, kid. I just feel a little sorry for you, like any mentally handicapped child I pass in the mall that reeks of the crap in its pants. But no, not hate. My hate is wayyyyy to valuable to be wasted on Texans or Israel.


i lol'd.
 
2012-08-24 02:05:04 PM  

Bschott007: yagottabefarkinkiddinme: If Israel attacks Iran I think we must assist. Israel thinks that they must attack or risk being wiped out, off the map, a second holocaust.

If Israel is pushed to the point where they have to use their undeclared arsenal on their enemy, everyone loses. If Israel attacks and loses...and does not use their undeclared arsenal, the weapons fall into the wrong hands. We cannot afford either risk, so we have to assist in my estimation.


Exactly HOW are they going to attack?

First, Israel won't use their nuclear arsenal unless it is a last resort from being attacked an invaded, and complete destruction is nye. Every country in the world, including the USA would denounce them if they did use nuclear weapons unprovoked and as a 'first-strike' option. A large majority of Americans would most likely call for all aid to Israel to stop and sanctions (if not military action) against them.

For me, I believe Israel will all out attack out of self preservation. They have been provoked and have a legitimate weed up their ass.

Second, Israel has no way to fly over and bomb Iran's nuclear program from existence. Not only is Iran's nuclear program deep underground and some cases, under civilian buildings but the Israeli air force has no "o.k." for overflights from any of the nations between Israel and Iran.

I'm going to quote RandomRandom:

That's Israel's problem, they can't make a serious dent in Iran's deeply buried program without the US carrying nearly all the load. The Pentagon estimates it would take a a few weeks of US air power to put a serious dent in Iran's deeply buried underground assets. Israel has less than 5% of our air assets and they have no aircraft carriers. They have no force projection.

This means Israel would have to send their air forces over unfriendly territory for a month or longer, just to reach Iran. Not just fighters, (and Bombers/multi-role aircraft) but mid-air refuelers. A continuous air war flying over either Sau ...


so much truth in one place.
well said!
 
2012-08-24 02:43:14 PM  
Profedius
I don't agree with the law I think it is feel good law meant to protect the losers of a conflict

Okay, and exactly how many Palestinian children alive today fought in the wars in the 60s-70s?
 
2012-08-24 04:02:05 PM  

Bauer: Bschott007: yagottabefarkinkiddinme: If Israel attacks Iran I think we must assist. Israel thinks that they must attack or risk being wiped out, off the map, a second holocaust.

If Israel is pushed to the point where they have to use their undeclared arsenal on their enemy, everyone loses. If Israel attacks and loses...and does not use their undeclared arsenal, the weapons fall into the wrong hands. We cannot afford either risk, so we have to assist in my estimation.


Exactly HOW are they going to attack?

First, Israel won't use their nuclear arsenal unless it is a last resort from being attacked an invaded, and complete destruction is nye. Every country in the world, including the USA would denounce them if they did use nuclear weapons unprovoked and as a 'first-strike' option. A large majority of Americans would most likely call for all aid to Israel to stop and sanctions (if not military action) against them.

For me, I believe Israel will all out attack out of self preservation. They have been provoked and have a legitimate weed up their ass.

Second, Israel has no way to fly over and bomb Iran's nuclear program from existence. Not only is Iran's nuclear program deep underground and some cases, under civilian buildings but the Israeli air force has no "o.k." for overflights from any of the nations between Israel and Iran.

I'm going to quote RandomRandom:

That's Israel's problem, they can't make a serious dent in Iran's deeply buried program without the US carrying nearly all the load. The Pentagon estimates it would take a a few weeks of US air power to put a serious dent in Iran's deeply buried underground assets. Israel has less than 5% of our air assets and they have no aircraft carriers. They have no force projection.

This means Israel would have to send their air forces over unfriendly territory for a month or longer, just to reach Iran. Not just fighters, (and Bombers/multi-role aircraft) but mid-air refuelers. A continuous air war flying ove ...


Thank you. It just aggravates me that some people are being 'chicken little' about this and not thinking things through. Israel hitting Iraq's nuclear power plant back in the 1990's was different. They had permission for the overflight of Jordan.

Here they have to fly over Jordan, Iraq/Saudi Arabia, hit their target then fly back. Since their target is underground...deep underground...they would have to hit it multiple times just to reach the bunkers.

Also intel on the net indicates that many of the nuclear research facilities are under civilian targets. Israel would be bombing civilians and mosques. The other arab nations may not be hugging buddies with Iran but if Israel hit mosques and killed civilians who had nothing to do with the targets, then that would most likely give Iran a few somewhat friendly Arab allies if Iran chose to respond against Israel.

In any case, this is just hot air because HEY, it's an election year for Israel. It's an election year for Iran. And what do you know...it's an election year here in the USA!

Basically this is political blowhards talking tough to bolster support at the voting booths.
 
2012-08-26 09:19:41 AM  
I think the money we send to this country should be shut off. If they want to start a war with Iran go it alone. If god promised them the country god can help without any assistence from other countries or their money. I have a hard time believing this "spiritual real estate agent" is more concerned about that small speck of dirt in the

Grow the fark up and fight your own war.
 
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