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(Times of Israel)   Israel: "Mess with us and you'll suffer the wrath of American military. What? That's what I said. Israeli military, No, I'm pretty sure I said Israeli military. Well, that's what I meant"   (timesofisrael.com) divider line 331
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2012-08-23 12:04:54 AM

kurtanglerookieyear: fatalvenom: consider this: fatalvenom: Have you noticed that throughout most of history, mostly everyone has hated the Jews except for, gasp, the Jews?

Yeah, those dirty Jews, always getting their ass kicked out of their homeland and trying to sneak back in.

Why did most of the countries hand over their Jew population to the Germans during WWII?

Hint: not because they wanted to protect the Jews

Hmm. So these European countries that merrily handed over their Jews... I guess they also enthusiastically gave up their sovereignty? Or maybe it was because they were getting blown to bits? Probably not.

This place is absolutely vile. I don't understand how veteran Farkers can take this kind of hatred and willful ignorance.


Amazing, isn't it? I'm reminded of the rainbow song, "Can't Happen Here".
 
2012-08-23 12:04:58 AM

untaken_name: consider this: Should have known you were a Arab with your disgusting attitude.

It must be nice to be not racist like you.


Oh, whoops. Misplaced a word. Should have read "It must NOT be nice to be racist like you." My bad.
 
2012-08-23 12:06:21 AM

beta_plus: dr_blasto: beta_plus: I love how Fark Anti-Semite Libs think that poor weak mean Israel only exists with America's support through somehow magically manipulating our chaotic electoral system.

Did it ever occur to you jew haters that all America does is try to get Israel to hold back?

They wouldn't fall without us. They'd wipe their neighbors and Iran out.

/you can thank the French for giving them 200+ nukes

How much military aid do we supply Israel with annually? Are you so incredibly stupid that you think they could sustain their own military-industrial-complex on their GDP?

Clearly, though, you think that calling out Israel for being assholes when they're, you know, actually being assholes about something is anti-semitic.

You know, you seem to think so little of our Jewish friends in the middle east that you believe they can't take even a little constructive criticism. Maybe you're the anti-semite. Are you one of those end of the world god-botherer types that's praying for the destruction of Israel to bring you to the End Times? Maybe this is more of your stupid "MY TEAM RIGHT OR WRONG" politics.

Maybe you've succumbed to some kind of TBI and I'm just picking on a disabled person who isn't in full control of their faculties. I guess that'd make me the dick.

Which is it, beta_plus?

Actually, they did just fine on their GDP defending themselves without our help until 1973, when they stupidly did not buy enough bullets for a few years. You know why we bailed them out? Because they prepped all of their nuclear weapon delivery vehicles right when out spy satellites could see them. I'll let you guess what message they were trying to send.

We weren't saving Israel then and we are not now. We were (are) saving the millions who live(d) in Cairo, Damascus, Baghdad, Riyadh, Mecca, Medina, and possibly back then Odessa, Kiev, and (assuming a blatant suicide mission wasn't out of the question and they had put some aces up their sleeve) Moscow. They don't really ...


That's interesting about the "last resort". It's what I'm expecting from Assad.
 
2012-08-23 12:06:26 AM

RoyBatty: fatalvenom: consider this: fatalvenom: Have you noticed that throughout most of history, mostly everyone has hated the Jews except for, gasp, the Jews?

Yeah, those dirty Jews, always getting their ass kicked out of their homeland and trying to sneak back in.

Why did most of the countries hand over their Jew population to the Germans during WWII?

Hint: not because they wanted to protect the Jews

Why don't you tell us then.


Read a book.
 
2012-08-23 12:08:42 AM

consider this: fatalvenom: The truth must hurt. Sorry.

So how much of your income do you send back home to your relatives in the Middle East? Should have known you were a Arab with your disgusting attitude.


Dunno if he's Arab, and I don't think you sound any better by insulting all Arabs.

But, I just think that Fatal Venom has some obvious sort of negative attention seeking personality disorder.

The prevalence of mental illness online is just outstanding. All these people who don't have the confidence to say this stuff in person because they know they'll get their asses handed to them just go online and spout it for attention.

I'm guessing that living in your mother's basement will also do that to you.
 
2012-08-23 12:08:44 AM

fatalvenom: consider this: fatalvenom: Consider this....you are a fark-tard.

You're a racist douche.

I hate Jews. Get over it.

I also hate Russians.

OMG...someone can hate people.

The agony!?!?!?!?


Well, it's nice to know we've identified the one anti-semite in this thread. But at least after a bit of coaxing at least fatalvenom had the balls to admit what he is.
 
2012-08-23 12:09:12 AM
If Israel attacks Iran I think we must assist. Israel thinks that they must attack or risk being wiped out, off the map, a second holocaust. They may be 100% correct as Iranian leaders keep saying just that. They will never allow themselves to go through that again. If Israel is pushed to the point where they have to use their undeclared arsenal on their enemy, everyone loses. If Israel attacks and loses...and does not use their undeclared arsenal, the weapons fall into the wrong hands. We cannot afford either risk, so we have to assist in my estimation.

If we do not assist when Israel truly believes it must attack or perish...and wins, we would lose an ally most likely forever. If Israel does not attack and suffers a second holocaust, we lose and ally forever. We are pretty screwed into going to war.

For me, I believe Israel will all out attack out of self preservation. They have been provoked and have a legitimate weed up their ass. I am seriously concerned this will spiral out of control, as Egypt is already moving it's military ...without consult prior to doing so with Israel as required by peace treaty... in the DMZ for the first time in over 30 years. Egypt thinking about something?

It's most likely in our best interests to help Israel stop Iran now from wiping Israel off the map. In a few years when they acquire additional technology, they will be threatening to wipe others off the map. I will never understand why the cultured, educated, intelligent bright people of Iran let their government threaten Israel with wiping them off the map and never realizing that they put themselves in the gravest peril for doing so.

War is coming.
 
2012-08-23 12:10:33 AM

consider this: untaken_name: It must be nice to be not racist like you.

It's not racist to point out the obviousness of a chubby Arab hating on Jews.


Up is down, black is white, good is bad, wrong is right, war is peace. Doubleplus good, brother.
 
2012-08-23 12:10:35 AM

consider this: untaken_name: It must be nice to be not racist like you.

It's not racist to point out the obviousness of a chubby Arab hating on Jews.


Es esmu Latvijas, jūsu faktus taisni tu farking ebrejs.
 
2012-08-23 12:10:51 AM

Acharne: muck4doo: Acharne: muck4doo: Seriously. Fark is so anti-semetic it's not even funny. The saddest part is most of you anti-semetic assholes don't realize what racist douchebags you are.

Being against armed conflict is racist now?

You two are perfect examples. Where is your outrage when Hamas sends rockets into Israel? I'd like to see the Fark links. Go go go Kill Israel, amiright?

Dude. Firing rockets IS armed conflict. I despise Hamas.

I think you're just being presumptuous. I do not think saying "Israel would be wrong to attack Iran" is racist. I think Israel has a right to defend itself, but I do not think attacking Iran is the way to go about it.

I think it would be appreciated if you don't lot all of us against armed conflict into the 'fark Israel' camp. That simply isn't my position.


Understood. I've been on fark for a number of years, and have seen how most of this always goes. It was wrong for me to assume what your position is.
 
2012-08-23 12:11:42 AM

RoyBatty: fatalvenom: consider this: fatalvenom: Consider this....you are a fark-tard.

You're a racist douche.

I hate Jews. Get over it.

I also hate Russians.

OMG...someone can hate people.

The agony!?!?!?!?

Well, it's nice to know we've identified the one anti-semite in this thread. But at least after a bit of coaxing at least fatalvenom had the balls to admit what he is.


I have no problem with it.

I know what my countrymen and women had to die for. For that, I will hate them.
 
2012-08-23 12:11:51 AM

fatalvenom: consider this: untaken_name: It must be nice to be not racist like you.

It's not racist to point out the obviousness of a chubby Arab hating on Jews.

Es esmu Latvijas, jūsu faktus taisni tu farking ebrejs.


Oh, go back to Latvia, dude. You are a loser.
 
2012-08-23 12:12:19 AM

RoyBatty: Well, it's nice to know we've identified the one anti-semite in this thread.


Two at least, actually, since Arabs are also Semites, that makes consider this an anti-Semite also.
 
2012-08-23 12:13:23 AM

danielscissorhands: The prevalence of mental illness online is just outstanding. All these people who don't have the confidence to say this stuff in person because they know they'll get their asses handed to them just go online and spout it for attention.


Very seriously I have to admit that I admire fatalvenom's courage or his understanding that nothing will happen to him for spouting these views.

He puts in his profile plenty of stuff to identify him in real life including name, location, pictures, and then comes online and just spews this crap.

I keep my profile as clean as can be, and am always sweating someone will figure out who I am, and then take as honorable, virtuous positions as I can (and still FARKERS like GAT_00 compare me to a North Korean diplomat).

This is one reason I think I am glad FARK and other sites like this exist, so that the fatalvenoms can come out and express themselves and we can all see that anti-semitism really ain't dead.

But it's scary.
 
2012-08-23 12:14:02 AM

muck4doo: Keizer_Ghidorah: I don't give a damn if that chunk of desert and scorpions IS God's msot favorite place in the universe and Israelies ARE God's most favorite humans of all. We're not your goddamned attack dog, Israel. We've got better and more important things to do in our own fricking country, if you want to start up yet another holy war you can do it by your damn self.

Take care of the white man. It's serious business. Damn jews can wait.


Don't know where I said that, unless you think America is home to only Caucasians. A little racist there?

We've got enough problems at home that we can't seem to fix without our own political aprties fighting and biatching, we DON'T need to be wasting any more time, money, and manpower playing referee to a region where they've been murdering each other over religion for the last 2,000 years. Sorry if that sounds mean, but reality is often harsh.
 
2012-08-23 12:14:06 AM

consider this: fatalvenom: Es esmu Latvijas, jūsu faktus taisni tu farking ebrejs

I'm German you ignorant chub.


Do you know about the Gernan occupation of Latvia then, or are you a self-hating German?
 
2012-08-23 12:14:13 AM

RoyBatty: GAT_00: Now, now, this is very interesting. This is someone who apparently can only read literal statements, he has no ability to determine nuance. It's very interesting. It's like talking to a North Korean diplomat.

There's a difference between nuance and putting words in people's mouths.

Another way to look at it is there are many more alternatives between the US okays an attack and the US participates in the attack that has been left out of the headline.

Also I have him Farkied as being a possible alt to You Know Who in these kind of threads, based on comment history.

That's funny too. I used to think you were an alt of GATO_NEGRO because of the way you two would blither on, equally irrational, but from different extremes.

No, I'm not Tatsuma, but I do respect him, if only his patience amongst a group of people who were mainly ill-informed. And you've missed out on the times I've chastised him. And I suspect he's got his life a whole lot put together better than I do.

But I certainly appreciate GAT_00 your ability to group people together as one, based on their comment history alone. We all know at FARK there couldn't possibly be more than two people with the similar points of view.

The only "alt" I have is JPFlathead which was my original username but "ditched" when my posting of the animated gif of the scanner's head exploding was deemed too graphic and was banned and had html removed from it.

What are your alt's GAT_00? I occasionally lump you in with a lot of tards based on your comment history.


Me mem me emmememememememem memememe mememe mememe...........................for fuks sake,,,some of you total Fatkers can you ever start a sentence without the word Me or I ???????

And let me get this straight...some of you are SO preoccupied with posting on Fark you spoof and use alts?
Get
A
Life
 
2012-08-23 12:14:38 AM
 
2012-08-23 12:15:19 AM

muck4doo: Understood. I've been on fark for a number of years, and have seen how most of this always goes. It was wrong for me to assume what your position is.


Thank you. Fark is a nasty place often enough, I appreciated that.
 
2012-08-23 12:17:41 AM

RoyBatty: danielscissorhands: The prevalence of mental illness online is just outstanding. All these people who don't have the confidence to say this stuff in person because they know they'll get their asses handed to them just go online and spout it for attention.

Very seriously I have to admit that I admire fatalvenom's courage or his understanding that nothing will happen to him for spouting these views.

He puts in his profile plenty of stuff to identify him in real life including name, location, pictures, and then comes online and just spews this crap.

I keep my profile as clean as can be, and am always sweating someone will figure out who I am, and then take as honorable, virtuous positions as I can (and still FARKERS like GAT_00 compare me to a North Korean diplomat).

This is one reason I think I am glad FARK and other sites like this exist, so that the fatalvenoms can come out and express themselves and we can all see that anti-semitism really ain't dead.

But it's scary.


The untreated mental illness is a lot scarier.
 
2012-08-23 12:18:30 AM

consider this: untaken_name: Two at least, actually, since Arabs are also Semites, that makes consider this an anti-Semite also.

I never said I hate Arabs, only pointing out my belief that the Palestinians are the instigators and responsible for the bad shiat Israel unleashes on them. That's a far cry from chub making obviously racist comments about the entire Jewish race.


No, you never said you hate Arabs. You just said that Arab = chubby, Arab = poor taste in cars, Arab = racist, and Arab = totally responsible for any and all Arab-Jewish problems. Sometimes you don't have to explicitly say something for it to be apparent.
 
2012-08-23 12:18:54 AM

Hugemeister: And let me get this straight...some of you are SO preoccupied with posting on Fark you spoof and use alts?GetALife


Uh, that was my point, I don't use alts, but GAT_00 accused me of that.

I did have another user but it was banned for posting something that I now see a few times a week here. And so when that was banned, I created this username, and when someone accuses me of having an alt, I just let them know of that other username.
 
2012-08-23 12:19:31 AM

RoyBatty: danielscissorhands: The prevalence of mental illness online is just outstanding. All these people who don't have the confidence to say this stuff in person because they know they'll get their asses handed to them just go online and spout it for attention.

Very seriously I have to admit that I admire fatalvenom's courage or his understanding that nothing will happen to him for spouting these views.

He puts in his profile plenty of stuff to identify him in real life including name, location, pictures, and then comes online and just spews this crap.

I keep my profile as clean as can be, and am always sweating someone will figure out who I am, and then take as honorable, virtuous positions as I can (and still FARKERS like GAT_00 compare me to a North Korean diplomat).

This is one reason I think I am glad FARK and other sites like this exist, so that the fatalvenoms can come out and express themselves and we can all see that anti-semitism really ain't dead.

But it's scary.


If you think that my name is right, your wrong. My location, I'm one of many like myself here who don't like Jews. My picture, if you could pick me out of a line-up here I'd be shocked.

With that said, I know what happened to my family and the way Jews hate Germans and Arabs is the way I hate Jews and Russians.

Tough cookies, bro.
 
2012-08-23 12:20:48 AM
Well Armed Sheep

I heard that one of the early proposals for a Jewish nation-state after ww2 was Baja California. Just what i heard, though.

Mexico would have never sold.

Evil High Priest

I think Oklahoma would have been better. Or one of the Dakotas. Who's using them anyway? Britain used to have this adorable idiosyncrasy where they would set up countries in their wake that they absolutely knew would be unstable. Israel is one of their finer works. Pakistan is a close second.

I think the Dakotas were actually considered, but that Israel wanted, understandably, to be a totally independent state not just a part of America which no matter how you drew the maps they would always be.

My question is - why didn't they use South Africa? There's some connection there, right? Some kind of refuge for their treasure or some such, as if the move was very nearly made but someone changed their mind. Maybe it was always a plan B in case the current state of Israel ever was in fact completely overrun.

They would have had a huge coastline and a lot of distance between them and anyone else.

Instead, they went where they are now. I understand the religious significance of the area, to three powerful religions, and they would have written it off. So they did the religious noble thing and stood their ground. Yay.

To me, the situation seems as if a white family had ancestral properties of great significance in the middle of Watts. They move in, build a nice house, dress the kids well and try to live their dreams. But they get attacked, endlessly, by the gangsters and thugs living all around. And so they fight back in self defense, people end up dead on both sides, and now it's a war. And the white family pleads rightfully that they can't walk to the park or even go out at night because there are scary mofos standing on the corners watching them constantly. And it will never stop. No matter how many get shot on either side, the war will continue, forever.

The problem is, OF COURSE it's like that there. Anybody could have told you that.

The only way to keep safe now is for the white family to build a huge fence around their yard, and try be happy never leaving their yard. And hope they can ignore what's outside the gates.

This is what I see happening now. The war won't stop. So they're making Israel, which was kind of a nice place at one time, into a maximum-security fortress.

And they all have to live like that now.

The only way it could end on a national level is for peace to somehow break out, but really all we get is the opposite. Endless clamor for more wars, and the ridiculous notion that the US should somehow get involved in a pre-emptive strike on Iran. That's insane.

All Israel seems to want to do is live by the sword.

I don't even know that it's possible to move somewhere else now. Most Jews don't even live in Israel. I don't blame them. There are better places to live and raise kids and grow old than in the middle of the worst neighborhood on Earth. 

Isn't this great! Isn't this fun!

F*ck this.
 
2012-08-23 12:21:11 AM

Keizer_Ghidorah: muck4doo: Keizer_Ghidorah: I don't give a damn if that chunk of desert and scorpions IS God's msot favorite place in the universe and Israelies ARE God's most favorite humans of all. We're not your goddamned attack dog, Israel. We've got better and more important things to do in our own fricking country, if you want to start up yet another holy war you can do it by your damn self.

Take care of the white man. It's serious business. Damn jews can wait.

Don't know where I said that, unless you think America is home to only Caucasians. A little racist there?

We've got enough problems at home that we can't seem to fix without our own political aprties fighting and biatching, we DON'T need to be wasting any more time, money, and manpower playing referee to a region where they've been murdering each other over religion for the last 2,000 years. Sorry if that sounds mean, but reality is often harsh.


Except that America has many allies, and enemies. The anti-semetic crowd hates that the Jews are Allies. When asked their reasons why, it's usually the typical Nazi and pan-Arabism propoganda. So shoot it to me. What is your reason for hating the jews?
 
2012-08-23 12:21:32 AM

consider this: fatalvenom: Do you know about the Gernan occupation of Latvia then

Is that when Latvia stuck a white flag in their ass and rolled over to the Nazi's?


No we let the Germans come in to take the Jews out of our country, then they stuck the white flag in their ass and let us get killed by Stallin.
 
2012-08-23 12:23:09 AM

consider this: untaken_name: No, you never said you hate Arabs. You just said that Arab = chubby, Arab = poor taste in cars, Arab = racist, and Arab = totally responsible for any and all Arab-Jewish problems. Sometimes you don't have to explicitly say something for it to be apparent.

Ripping on chub is being done for entertainment value. Also, I never said that Palestinians were 100% responsible.


Keep calling me Chub, I'd love to see what you look like.
 
2012-08-23 12:23:47 AM

danielscissorhands: The untreated mental illness is a lot scarier.


Yes. Actually all the crap that can come out in these threads can be truly enlightening and terrifying.

So as an American Jew that would love to see a two state solution and peace in the middle east and has never liked the settlements and doesn't want to see a war with Iran or see Israel farking in our elections, I see these threads of filled with uninformed ignorant hate (I don't mind the informed protests nearly as much) and I end up thinking, well, I guess I am glad Israel is looking out for herself because so many people here are eager to leave her high and dry.
 
2012-08-23 12:23:48 AM
By the way Mr. Keizer, you do indeed have an infatuation with Jews. Care to expand on it?
 
2012-08-23 12:24:20 AM

consider this: Also, I never said that Palestinians were 100% responsible.


consider this: only pointing out my belief that the Palestinians are the instigators and responsible for the bad shiat Israel unleashes on them


Good day, sir.
 
2012-08-23 12:25:12 AM

consider this: fatalvenom: No we let the Germans come in to take the Jews out of our country, then they stuck the white flag in their ass and let us get killed by Stallin.

So what you're saying is that nobody likes Latvians. You're sure making that one easy to figure out.


We don't like you either
 
2012-08-23 12:25:19 AM

fatalvenom: I know what happened to my family and the way Jews hate Germans and Arabs is the way I hate Jews and Russians.


I don't know what happened to your family, but I don't think you know how Jews feel towards Germans and Arabs either, and I believe the views you've expressed in this thread go way beyond that.
 
2012-08-23 12:29:20 AM
Fun fact: Racists rarely consider themselves racist because they feel their hate has a valid reason behind it.
 
2012-08-23 12:29:24 AM

muck4doo: Keizer_Ghidorah: muck4doo: Keizer_Ghidorah: I don't give a damn if that chunk of desert and scorpions IS God's msot favorite place in the universe and Israelies ARE God's most favorite humans of all. We're not your goddamned attack dog, Israel. We've got better and more important things to do in our own fricking country, if you want to start up yet another holy war you can do it by your damn self.

Take care of the white man. It's serious business. Damn jews can wait.

Don't know where I said that, unless you think America is home to only Caucasians. A little racist there?

We've got enough problems at home that we can't seem to fix without our own political aprties fighting and biatching, we DON'T need to be wasting any more time, money, and manpower playing referee to a region where they've been murdering each other over religion for the last 2,000 years. Sorry if that sounds mean, but reality is often harsh.

Except that America has many allies, and enemies. The anti-semetic crowd hates that the Jews are Allies. When asked their reasons why, it's usually the typical Nazi and pan-Arabism propoganda. So shoot it to me. What is your reason for hating the jews?


I don't hate Jews. I hate stupid people. I hate people who fight over retarded reasons. I hate morons who can't stop slaughtering each other for ten seconds to realize that a two millennia blood feud isn't going to get them anything except more death and destruction. My rational mind can't wrap around the level of irrationality going on over there, a conflict over who's the most bestest favorite in the eyes of a fictional being and who gets to rule a sun-baked sand pile.

As far as I'm converned, EVERYONE over there is nuttier than a shiathouse rat. The sane ones are welcome to come over here or go elsewhere until the madness either finally blows over or results in apocalyptic destruction. Personally I hope it's the former, but at this point I'll welcome anything that will finally end it and let a bit of peace and sanity return to the world.
 
2012-08-23 12:29:25 AM

RoyBatty: fatalvenom: I know what happened to my family and the way Jews hate Germans and Arabs is the way I hate Jews and Russians.

I don't know what happened to your family, but I don't think you know how Jews feel towards Germans and Arabs either, and I believe the views you've expressed in this thread go way beyond that.


They don't. I like that the guy is honest. That's where discussion starts. It's the dishonest assholes who say they are not anti-semetic, but anti-zionist who keep discussion from continuing, and UP the hate. Quit being dishonest tards, and admit you are racist assholes.
 
2012-08-23 12:31:01 AM
BolloxReader
Oh, and I want to point out that all of this could have been avoided if Great Britain had granted the Palestinians independence following WWI as had been promised in exchange for rising up against the Ottomans. Then nobody would have been able to establish Israel by kicking out natives and turning them into refugees and pissing off everyone else.

Creating bloody and intractable religious conflicts was the imperial strategy for keeping the natives too busy fighting each other to have time to fight their rulers; later, it served in former colonies for making sure their victims would never be inclined to seek revenge.


RandomRandom
Add all this up and it becomes very clear that Israel is completely full of shiat.

By all indications they've got themselves so psyched up that at this point if they don't try then they'll look like just as much of fools. Why choose a path with a 100% chance of humiliation (i.e. not attacking) when there is a path with only a 95% chance?


dr_blasto
Indifferent attitude to the slaughter of civilians, including women and children, through the deployment and use of modern, highly efficient weapons with highly accurate targeting and control systems

That doesn't even really matter. The real issue is that Israel has absolute territorial and military control. Israel is the power here. There is literally nothing that the Palestinians can do that will cause Israel to remove the settlers, checkpoints, border controls, blockades etc and otherwise allow Palestine to be a viable state where people have at least a chance of living with some kind of basic dignity. Israelis complaining about anything Palestinians do against them is like a 5th grader holding down a 2nd grader and complaining that he'shiatting back.


consider this
Yeah, if only they had somewhere else to go.

lol at anything east of Iraq being considered "Arab".

People want to live in their home, not some random patch of rock a thousand miles away.

the people that have launched over 9,000 rockets at them in the past 10 years

The civilian population = the terrorists, eh? By that logic, because of settler attacks on Palestinian civilians, every Israeli should be considered a terrorist too, right?


muck4doo
Where is your outrage when Hamas sends rockets into Israel?

Let me know when Hamas carpets Israel in checkpoints, demolishes Israeli airports and power plants, restricts Israeli access to water, sequesters Israelis into isolated ghettoes that require intentionally excessively circuitous routes to pass between, denies Israel access to the Mediterranean, arrests members of the Knesset, arbitrarily denies Israelis building permits and sends in the bulldozers when they build anyway, and allows Palestinians to illegally take over apartment blocks in Tel Aviv and protects them with thousands of soldiers. Then I will give a fark.
 
2012-08-23 12:32:04 AM

Keizer_Ghidorah: muck4doo: Keizer_Ghidorah: muck4doo: Keizer_Ghidorah: I don't give a damn if that chunk of desert and scorpions IS God's msot favorite place in the universe and Israelies ARE God's most favorite humans of all. We're not your goddamned attack dog, Israel. We've got better and more important things to do in our own fricking country, if you want to start up yet another holy war you can do it by your damn self.

Take care of the white man. It's serious business. Damn jews can wait.

Don't know where I said that, unless you think America is home to only Caucasians. A little racist there?

We've got enough problems at home that we can't seem to fix without our own political aprties fighting and biatching, we DON'T need to be wasting any more time, money, and manpower playing referee to a region where they've been murdering each other over religion for the last 2,000 years. Sorry if that sounds mean, but reality is often harsh.

Except that America has many allies, and enemies. The anti-semetic crowd hates that the Jews are Allies. When asked their reasons why, it's usually the typical Nazi and pan-Arabism propoganda. So shoot it to me. What is your reason for hating the jews?

I don't hate Jews. I hate stupid people. I hate people who fight over retarded reasons. I hate morons who can't stop slaughtering each other for ten seconds to realize that a two millennia blood feud isn't going to get them anything except more death and destruction. My rational mind can't wrap around the level of irrationality going on over there, a conflict over who's the most bestest favorite in the eyes of a fictional being and who gets to rule a sun-baked sand pile.

As far as I'm converned, EVERYONE over there is nuttier than a shiathouse rat. The sane ones are welcome to come over here or go elsewhere until the madness either finally blows over or results in apocalyptic destruction. Personally I hope it's the former, but at this point I'll welcome anything that will finally end it and let a b ...


I only saw one insane thing in that post. It was the assumption that you hold the ultimate truth, and everyone else is wrong.
 
2012-08-23 12:32:33 AM

RoyBatty: fatalvenom: I know what happened to my family and the way Jews hate Germans and Arabs is the way I hate Jews and Russians.

I don't know what happened to your family, but I don't think you know how Jews feel towards Germans and Arabs either, and I believe the views you've expressed in this thread go way beyond that.


Fark you.

http://www.rijafilms.lv/category/distribution-galleries/historical-do c umentaries-from-siberia/
 
2012-08-23 12:32:38 AM

muck4doo: By the way Mr. Keizer, you do indeed have an infatuation with Jews. Care to expand on it?


Fisrt point out my "infatuation" with them, because I haven't seen it.
 
2012-08-23 12:32:53 AM

studebaker hoch: To me, the situation seems as if a white family had ancestral properties of great significance in the middle of Watts. They move in, build a nice house, dress the kids well and try to live their dreams. But they get attacked, endlessly, by the gangsters and thugs living all around. And so they fight back in self defense, people end up dead on both sides, and now it's a war. And the white family pleads rightfully that they can't walk to the park or even go out at night because there are scary mofos standing on the corners watching them constantly. And it will never stop. No matter how many get shot on either side, the war will continue, forever.


My Uncle and his family has lived in S. Central since the 50s. So he lived there as the neighborhood changed. He just had a 90th birthday and many of his neighbors came to it. It was a great party.

So there's that data point and since I live in Trek land there is also Federation and Klingons but also US and Russia, US and Japan, England France and Germany, US and China, Israel and Jordan (?), Dick Cheney and gays. Gays in America.

Trade opens, people talk, people get to know each other, people learn to live together, neighbors, relatives, and trading partners find it more difficult to fight.
 
2012-08-23 12:35:33 AM

muck4doo: Keizer_Ghidorah: muck4doo: Keizer_Ghidorah: muck4doo: Keizer_Ghidorah: I don't give a damn if that chunk of desert and scorpions IS God's msot favorite place in the universe and Israelies ARE God's most favorite humans of all. We're not your goddamned attack dog, Israel. We've got better and more important things to do in our own fricking country, if you want to start up yet another holy war you can do it by your damn self.

Take care of the white man. It's serious business. Damn jews can wait.

Don't know where I said that, unless you think America is home to only Caucasians. A little racist there?

We've got enough problems at home that we can't seem to fix without our own political aprties fighting and biatching, we DON'T need to be wasting any more time, money, and manpower playing referee to a region where they've been murdering each other over religion for the last 2,000 years. Sorry if that sounds mean, but reality is often harsh.

Except that America has many allies, and enemies. The anti-semetic crowd hates that the Jews are Allies. When asked their reasons why, it's usually the typical Nazi and pan-Arabism propoganda. So shoot it to me. What is your reason for hating the jews?

I don't hate Jews. I hate stupid people. I hate people who fight over retarded reasons. I hate morons who can't stop slaughtering each other for ten seconds to realize that a two millennia blood feud isn't going to get them anything except more death and destruction. My rational mind can't wrap around the level of irrationality going on over there, a conflict over who's the most bestest favorite in the eyes of a fictional being and who gets to rule a sun-baked sand pile.

As far as I'm converned, EVERYONE over there is nuttier than a shiathouse rat. The sane ones are welcome to come over here or go elsewhere until the madness either finally blows over or results in apocalyptic destruction. Personally I hope it's the former, but at this point I'll welcome anything that will finally e ...


I wish "stop fighting over stupid shiat and be intelligent about it" was an ultimate truth. PRetty sure a lot of people wouldn't mind following it.
 
2012-08-23 12:35:45 AM

RanDomino: muck4doo
Where is your outrage when Hamas sends rockets into Israel?

Let me know when Hamas carpets Israel in checkpoints, demolishes Israeli airports and power plants, restricts Israeli access to water, sequesters Israelis into isolated ghettoes that require intentionally excessively circuitous routes to pass between, denies Israel access to the Mediterranean, arrests members of the Knesset, arbitrarily denies Israelis building permits and sends in the bulldozers when they build anyway, and allows Palestinians to illegally take over apartment blocks in Tel Aviv and protects them with thousands of soldiers. Then I will give a fark.


You are the powertool elite of Hamas. We get it. Hamas is innocent, those damn jews deserve to die. Seig heil!Jews are tuining the world! Kill them all before they kill us! RanDomino is a racist tard that has been p[otsing this kind of crap for years, and needs to be called for the Nazi he is.
 
2012-08-23 12:38:29 AM

consider this: The Germans and the Russians kicked Latvia's ass so this guy hates the Jews. Sounds logical.


If it wasnt for the Jews, the Germans would probably have never invaded and then the Russians wouldn't have been provoked into more slaughter.
 
2012-08-23 12:42:31 AM

fatalvenom: consider this: The Germans and the Russians kicked Latvia's ass so this guy hates the Jews. Sounds logical.

If it wasnt for the Jews, the Germans would probably have never invaded and then the Russians wouldn't have been provoked into more slaughter.


Because the Germans totally weren't out to take over all of Europe and eventually the world.
 
2012-08-23 12:43:33 AM
fatalvenom
the Jews

All of them, yeah?

OMG...someone can hate people.

The agony!?!?!?!?


Yes, that does in fact make you a terrible person.


yagottabefarkinkiddinme
They may be 100% correct as Iranian leaders keep saying just that.

they say they want nuclear power for civilian purposes only = ignore what they say
they say they want to destroy Israel = everything they say is true

we would lose an ally most likely forever

Worst. Ally. Ever.

The hundreds of thousands of people that could potentially die in such a situation, that's a problem, though.
 
2012-08-23 12:51:38 AM

consider this: fatalvenom: If it wasnt for the Jews, the Germans would probably have never invaded and then the Russians wouldn't have been provoked into more slaughter.

Yeah, it's the Jews fault that Germany invaded Latvia. You're just flat out insane.


I beg to differ.

In any event, my antisemitic ass needs to get to sleep so I can work to make the 1% richer tomorrow.

Shalom.
 
2012-08-23 12:53:03 AM
consider this
Guess that doesn't apply to the Jews, right?

At this point, it's like the American theft of Indian land- the original criminals and victims are largely dead, and now there are a lot of people who are living on stolen land through no fault of their own; it wouldn't be fair to kick them out either, and the people who would have inherited it don't know it personally either. So it's fair that practically all of Israel proper and probably most of the settlements should stay the way they are, since it's been a generation or two. But the most recent settlements, from the last decade at the very least, should definitely be removed.


muck4doo
RanDomino is a racist tard that has been p[otsing this kind of crap for years, and needs to be called for the Nazi he is.

I'm an Anarchist- I mainly only care about power relations. Israel overwhelmingly has the power in this situation. Any way you slice it the Palestinians are the victims here. The ethnic cleansing and land grab is nothing but a Primitive Accumulation for a civilization and economy that has run out of legitimately productive activities and has to resort to mass robbery. Sorry if you don't like being called out.
 
2012-08-23 12:53:53 AM
fusillade762

This will not end well.

Correction:
This will not end.
 
2012-08-23 12:55:50 AM
memedepot.com
I love you all. At least at this moment.
 
2012-08-23 01:01:11 AM

RanDomino: consider this
Guess that doesn't apply to the Jews, right?

At this point, it's like the American theft of Indian land- the original criminals and victims are largely dead, and now there are a lot of people who are living on stolen land through no fault of their own; it wouldn't be fair to kick them out either, and the people who would have inherited it don't know it personally either. So it's fair that practically all of Israel proper and probably most of the settlements should stay the way they are, since it's been a generation or two. But the most recent settlements, from the last decade at the very least, should definitely be removed.


muck4doo
RanDomino is a racist tard that has been p[otsing this kind of crap for years, and needs to be called for the Nazi he is.

I'm an Anarchist- I mainly only care about power relations. Israel overwhelmingly has the power in this situation. Any way you slice it the Palestinians are the victims here. The ethnic cleansing and land grab is nothing but a Primitive Accumulation for a civilization and economy that has run out of legitimately productive activities and has to resort to mass robbery. Sorry if you don't like being called out.


I've see your posts for years. the answer is no. You are a straight up Jew hater that hides behind the "I'm just an anti-zionist" flag. We know you blame the jews for bringing their own problems in them and such, including rockets from gaza, but you aren't fooling anyone other than the racist idiots like yourself here on fark. Racist tards like yourself are just like the racists who say "I don't hate black people, I hate n******". Search out some day why you are such a hateful douche.
 
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