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(Washington Post)   Steve King (R-IA): Stop saying that I said kids can't get pregnant from rape. That's twisting my words. The record clearly shows that I just said I'd never heard of it happening   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 48
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2012-08-22 02:34:35 PM
The record clearly shows that I just said I'd never heard of it happening

And why would you say that?

For the record, I've never heard of any women getting pregnant inside Boston, Massachusetts. But you know what? I'm 100% certain that a woman has gotten pregnant inside Boston. How? I know people have sex in Boston, and sex will eventually result in pregnancy.

If you know that statutory rape and incest happen, then you know that some victims have become pregnant as a result. Period. Why would you give a "I personally don't know if it's happened" response? You DO know.

The only possible reason I can think you would say that, is that you just want to muddy the waters around the whole "pregnancy can result from rape" controversy. I can't believe I wrote that last sentence. It's the 21st century right?

Yeah, pro-lifers are in a logical dilemma. If they allow rape-exceptions for abortions, they're admitting abortion really isn't about child murder. But if they don't allow rape-exceptions, they look like heartless-monsters. What to do? Deny pregnancy can even result from rape.
 
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2012-08-22 02:44:56 PM

impaler: The record clearly shows that I just said I'd never heard of it happening

And why would you say that?

For the record, I've never heard of any women getting pregnant inside Boston, Massachusetts. But you know what? I'm 100% certain that a woman has gotten pregnant inside Boston. How? I know people have sex in Boston, and sex will eventually result in pregnancy.

If you know that statutory rape and incest happen, then you know that some victims have become pregnant as a result. Period. Why would you give a "I personally don't know if it's happened" response? You DO know.

The only possible reason I can think you would say that, is that you just want to muddy the waters around the whole "pregnancy can result from rape" controversy. I can't believe I wrote that last sentence. It's the 21st century right?

Yeah, pro-lifers are in a logical dilemma. If they allow rape-exceptions for abortions, they're admitting abortion really isn't about child murder. But if they don't allow rape-exceptions, they look like heartless-monsters. What to do? Deny pregnancy can even result from rape.


Give the man a break. He was just speaking of the women he, uh, never mind.
 
2012-08-22 02:59:01 PM

impaler: The record clearly shows that I just said I'd never heard of it happening

And why would you say that?

For the record, I've never heard of any women getting pregnant inside Boston, Massachusetts. But you know what? I'm 100% certain that a woman has gotten pregnant inside Boston. How? I know people have sex in Boston, and sex will eventually result in pregnancy.

If you know that statutory rape and incest happen, then you know that some victims have become pregnant as a result. Period. Why would you give a "I personally don't know if it's happened" response? You DO know.

The only possible reason I can think you would say that, is that you just want to muddy the waters around the whole "pregnancy can result from rape" controversy. I can't believe I wrote that last sentence. It's the 21st century right?

Yeah, pro-lifers are in a logical dilemma. If they allow rape-exceptions for abortions, they're admitting abortion really isn't about child murder. But if they don't allow rape-exceptions, they look like heartless-monsters. What to do? Deny pregnancy can even result from rape.


I think the stat is 30,000 cases a day.
 
2012-08-22 04:36:10 PM

mrshowrules: impaler: The record clearly shows that I just said I'd never heard of it happening

And why would you say that?

For the record, I've never heard of any women getting pregnant inside Boston, Massachusetts. But you know what? I'm 100% certain that a woman has gotten pregnant inside Boston. How? I know people have sex in Boston, and sex will eventually result in pregnancy.

If you know that statutory rape and incest happen, then you know that some victims have become pregnant as a result. Period. Why would you give a "I personally don't know if it's happened" response? You DO know.

The only possible reason I can think you would say that, is that you just want to muddy the waters around the whole "pregnancy can result from rape" controversy. I can't believe I wrote that last sentence. It's the 21st century right?

Yeah, pro-lifers are in a logical dilemma. If they allow rape-exceptions for abortions, they're admitting abortion really isn't about child murder. But if they don't allow rape-exceptions, they look like heartless-monsters. What to do? Deny pregnancy can even result from rape.

I think the stat is 30,000 cases a day.


that's a lot of pregnant bostonians.
 
2012-08-22 04:36:59 PM

thomps: mrshowrules: impaler: The record clearly shows that I just said I'd never heard of it happening

And why would you say that?

For the record, I've never heard of any women getting pregnant inside Boston, Massachusetts. But you know what? I'm 100% certain that a woman has gotten pregnant inside Boston. How? I know people have sex in Boston, and sex will eventually result in pregnancy.

If you know that statutory rape and incest happen, then you know that some victims have become pregnant as a result. Period. Why would you give a "I personally don't know if it's happened" response? You DO know.

The only possible reason I can think you would say that, is that you just want to muddy the waters around the whole "pregnancy can result from rape" controversy. I can't believe I wrote that last sentence. It's the 21st century right?

Yeah, pro-lifers are in a logical dilemma. If they allow rape-exceptions for abortions, they're admitting abortion really isn't about child murder. But if they don't allow rape-exceptions, they look like heartless-monsters. What to do? Deny pregnancy can even result from rape.

I think the stat is 30,000 cases a day.

that's a lot of pregnant bostonians.


It was a wicked kegger.
 
2012-08-22 04:42:02 PM
Vote for legislation banning abortions for rape victims, say your farked up "logic" behind it, stand behind your words and actions. Simple as that.
 
2012-08-22 04:42:14 PM
I don't know anyone personally who has voted for Steve King.
 
2012-08-22 04:44:57 PM

impaler:

Yeah, pro-lifers are in a logical dilemma. If they allow rape-exceptions for abortions, they're admitting abortion really isn't about child murder. But if they don't allow rape-exceptions, they look like heartless-monsters. What to do? Deny pregnancy can even result from rape.


Here lies the real truth
 
2012-08-22 04:46:04 PM
They need a new name/rebranding. What about the G.O.R.P. (Grand Old Rape Party) or the Rapeublican Party?
 
2012-08-22 04:46:26 PM
I get it. king is saying none of the girls he raped ever got pregnant.
 
2012-08-22 04:50:14 PM
Eh, he did say "brought to me personally", which sounds like no one had ever brought it up to him in a discussion about rape/abortions. Which is asinine for its own reasons, but it really isn't the same thing as denying it happens.

On the other hand, King shoves his foot down his throat every few weeks, so I'm willing to believe he believes the only incest is in a Lot's daughters kind of way (so the only victim is the man), but still...

Make no mistake, King's a damn idiot, but I think we should probably look the other way on this one.

/like his wife when he incests--bazzinga!
 
2012-08-22 04:50:59 PM
I actually have to give Akin some credit. His belief, no matter how absurdly wrong, that women can't get pregnant from forcible rape is at least some kind of justification for his stance of not making exceptions for rape victims in his attempts at banning abortion.

I think it would have been hilarious if after someone pointed out how wrong he was, he said something like, "What? You mean they CAN get pregnant from that? fark, we need to make exceptions for that kind of thing in our future abortion bans. Are you telling me that most people already know this? What kind of sick farks want to deny these rape victims an abortion if they can actually get pregnant?"
 
2012-08-22 04:51:02 PM

skepticultist: I get it. king is saying none of the girls he raped ever got pregnant.


sure, some of them put on a little weight and missed some periods, but the cement staircase at king's office can be slippery and b*tches be clumsy.
 
2012-08-22 04:51:58 PM
Why did they have to redistrict him into my neck of Iowa? I don't want to deal with this d-bagg.
 
2012-08-22 04:54:50 PM

RussianPooper: I don't know anyone personally who has voted for Steve King.


There are already huge KING signs along Hwy 122 and 18 around Mason City. I know it's illegal, but i just want to throw little glass bottles filled with Gasoline and a lit rag as a cork at each one.
 
2012-08-22 04:56:03 PM
While recovering from a rape a young woman finds out she's pregnant. If she was acquainted with Rep King does he really seem like the person she would turn to with her experience?

He's a borderline monster, along with Akin. These men truly live in a world where all they care to consider is the male viewpoint, openly showing disdain for half of humanity.
 
2012-08-22 05:01:37 PM

bulsd: RussianPooper: I don't know anyone personally who has voted for Steve King.

There are already huge KING signs along Hwy 122 and 18 around Mason City. I know it's illegal, but i just want to throw little glass bottles filled with Gasoline and a lit rag as a cork at each one.


maybe wait until the entire state of iowa isn't covered in dried out kindling.
 
2012-08-22 05:01:52 PM
I've never been in a Ruth Crist steakhouse. Therefore, they don't exist.
 
2012-08-22 05:03:15 PM

RussianPooper: I don't know anyone personally who has voted for Steve King.


He's incredibly popular among the Dutch Reformed population that lives in the northwest corner of the state, who are some of the most ridiculously Republican people I've ever met.
 
2012-08-22 05:03:29 PM

Ozarkhawk: I've never been in a Ruth Crist steakhouse. Therefore, they don't exist.


Or, because its a Ruth Chris steakhouse. Dammit, why cant you edit on Fark?
 
2012-08-22 05:04:10 PM
King said, "Well, I just haven't heard of that being a circumstance that's been brought to me in any personal way, and I'd be open to discussion about that subject matter."

OK, Mr. King, this whole thing where people on the Internet are calling you an uninformed idiot? Consider it a 'discussion.' I'm glad we had this little talk.
 
2012-08-22 05:06:34 PM
it's interesting to hear that king bases all of his political positions only on things he has personally experienced. i look forward to him abstaining from the vast majority of votes in future sessions of congress.
 
2012-08-22 05:11:18 PM
I've never personally met Jesus...
 
2012-08-22 05:12:10 PM
this election should be about, how did Todd Akin vote and what did he vote for and what did he stand for

You see sir, it is relevant because how he voted and the bills he co-sponsored were based on his BAT shiat FARKING CRAZY IDEA ABOUT WOMEN. What is more disturbing is that the GOP VOTED FOR THE SAME CRAP BASED ON PSEUDO-MEDICINE.
 
2012-08-22 05:13:14 PM

impaler: Yeah, pro-lifers are in a logical dilemma. If they allow rape-exceptions for abortions, they're admitting abortion really isn't about child murder. But if they don't allow rape-exceptions, they look like heartless-monsters. What to do? Deny pregnancy can even result from rape.


To some extent this is true. I'm sure plenty of people on the pro-life side do believe that abortion is child murder, but just as many don't. What some believe is a lot worse: That women should be forced to carry a baby and forced to raise that child as PUNISHMENT for having sex. Even if it's sanctioned sex. Far too many have the mentality that if a woman didn't want to get pregnant she should have kept her legs closed. Of course this is retarded, but to a significant portion of the pro-life movement, that is what the issue is about.
 
2012-08-22 05:22:33 PM
How can you go through life and never hear of it happening? It is in the bible. And the news. And history books. (Vikings raping and pillaging for example....)

If he's been that cut off from the world his entire life maybe he should have a different job ...
 
2012-08-22 05:23:28 PM
www.dailyhaha.com
 
2012-08-22 05:24:29 PM

RussianPooper: I don't know anyone personally who has voted for Steve King.


Me neither, to be honest. I've actually made it a point in every election to go vote simply to vote for the person running against King.
 
2012-08-22 05:49:53 PM

AngryDragon: [www.dailyhaha.com image 555x444]


But I DON"T VOTE THEM INTO OFFICE!
 
2012-08-22 05:51:21 PM
Let me just leave this here. https://vilsack.ngpvanhost.com/contribute
 
2012-08-22 06:00:23 PM
farm1.static.flickr.com

/wishful thinking
 
2012-08-22 06:14:25 PM
It has gotten really bizarre lately as Republicans are all bragging about how they were spawned from people raping their mothers. These dudes have gotten seriously weird.
 
2012-08-22 06:47:19 PM

Citrate1007: impaler:

Yeah, pro-lifers are in a logical dilemma. If they allow rape-exceptions for abortions, they're admitting abortion really isn't about child murder. But if they don't allow rape-exceptions, they look like heartless-monsters. What to do? Deny pregnancy can even result from rape.

Here lies the real truth


I have a Catholic friend who opposes rape in all cases except to save the woman's life. I really respect him for that, because clearly it IS about saving a child. But then he's pretty liberal for a Catholic. He thinks women should have cheap and easy access to birth control, and that teens should have comprehensive sex education, because that is the best way to prevent abortion.

/He teaches at a private Catholic school
 
2012-08-22 06:49:46 PM

Mike Chewbacca: Citrate1007: impaler:

Yeah, pro-lifers are in a logical dilemma. If they allow rape-exceptions for abortions, they're admitting abortion really isn't about child murder. But if they don't allow rape-exceptions, they look like heartless-monsters. What to do? Deny pregnancy can even result from rape.

Here lies the real truth

I have a Catholic friend who opposes rape in all cases except to save the woman's life. I really respect him for that, because clearly it IS about saving a child. But then he's pretty liberal for a Catholic. He thinks women should have cheap and easy access to birth control, and that teens should have comprehensive sex education, because that is the best way to prevent abortion.

/He teaches at a private Catholic school


When can rape save a life?
 
2012-08-22 06:57:39 PM

bmongar: When can rape save a life?


You don't know if you don't try!
 
2012-08-22 07:01:34 PM

impaler: bmongar: When can rape save a life?

You don't know if you don't try!


Probably in those never happening '24' scenarios where a man is about to set off a nuke but will only disarm it if you rape someone.
 
2012-08-22 07:02:11 PM

bmongar: When can rape save a life?


some women don't want to get pregnant, which effectively murders innocent egg-babies. if a rapist can slip one by the rigid tubes, he has saved the life of that precious unborn baby.
 
2012-08-22 07:34:32 PM

bmongar: When can rape save a life?


Let's say a guy's about to jump off a bridge. You sneak up behind him, subdue him, and in order to stall for time while the authorities are on their way, you rape him just a bit.

Result: life saved.
 
2012-08-22 07:45:20 PM

Ozarkhawk: Dammit, why cant you edit on Fark?


Hilarity would ensue. Chaos would reign. I say let's do it.

/poster's regret in 3....2....1....
 
2012-08-22 07:48:27 PM

bulsd: Why did they have to redistrict him into my neck of Iowa? I don't want to deal with this d-bagg.


ha ha. glad i don't have him anymore.
 
2012-08-22 07:50:11 PM
Rape goes in, rape-baby comes out.
You can't explain that.
 
2012-08-22 08:47:41 PM
Ya know, every group and every political party has at least one or two people that you wish would join the opposition.

They've almost all joined the Republican Party.
 
2012-08-22 09:53:46 PM

wejash: Ya know, every group and every political party has at least one or two people that you wish would join the opposition.

They've almost all joined the Republican Party.


I LOL'd.
 
2012-08-22 10:06:15 PM
Representative Steve King is a pervert and a necrophiliac.
 
2012-08-22 10:40:48 PM
Prior to this debacle, I'd never heard of a case of a woman getting pregnant from a rape, either.

I'd also never heard of Congressman Akin, either, but I had no trouble believing either one existed when someone said it did.
 
2012-08-22 10:58:05 PM
When are we going to stop using the false and candy coated term "pro-life" to refer to forced-birth advocates?
 
2012-08-23 02:24:03 AM
Republican weasel words:

"I read that..."

And now

"I've never heard of..."
 
2012-08-23 10:02:51 AM

From a 1996 report based on data from 1992:

The [U.S.] national rape-related pregnancy rate is 5.0% per rape among victims of reproductive age (aged 12 to 45); among adult women an estimated 32,101 pregnancies result from rape each year.
Am J Obstet Gynecol 1996;175:320-5

A more recent report (2000) estimated--assuming a 50% reduction in rape cases over that time--the number of yearly rape-related pregnancies in the United States, near the year 2000, was is about 25,000.
Am J Prev Med. 2000 Nov;19(4):228-9.

Here are the FBI's own statistics for forcible rape--"legitimate rape" if you're a knuckle-dragging misogynist--which includes forcible carnal knowledge against a female's will, but doesn't include "statutory rape (without force) and other sex offenses". It is good to see that the rate of forcible rape has decreased since 1992, going from 42.8 to 28.7 per 100,000 in 2009. Based on the population in 2009, that's 88,097 forcible rapes in the U.S. Assuming previous rape-related pregnancy rates are not dramatically different (~5%), that's approximately 4,400 pregnancies in 2009 from reported forcible rape. Naturally, since rates of reporting for forcible rape are low, only about 55%, this is a dramatic underestimate.
 
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