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2012-08-22 12:19:27 PM  
Last I heard, He was dead. What's the good news?
 
2012-08-22 12:30:25 PM  

simplicimus: Last I heard, He was dead. What's the good news?


That he was black.

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And, apparently, really buff.

/a candidate's religion shouldn't even be an issue, nor should it be the basis of their decisions on important issues that the book of fairy tales didn't even mention.
 
2012-08-22 12:48:26 PM  
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/Stolen
 
2012-08-22 12:52:58 PM  
he's right. I don't care who he or Romney prays to. the real issue here is what kind of condiment does he put on his bologna sammiches, Mayo or Mustard? This is very important to the people of the free world!
 
2012-08-22 01:06:59 PM  

ManateeGag: he's right. I don't care who he or Romney prays to. the real issue here is what kind of condiment does he put on his bologna sammiches, Mayo or Mustard? This is very important to the people of the free world!


Jeez, the rule is simple: Mustard on hot foods, Mayo on cold foods.
 
2012-08-22 01:18:40 PM  

ManateeGag: he's right. I don't care who he or Romney prays to. the real issue here is what kind of condiment does he put on his bologna sammiches, Mayo or Mustard? This is very important to the people of the free world!


Miracle Whip
 
2012-08-22 01:25:03 PM  
FTFA: Mitt Romney tells skeptics of his faith: "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the Savior of mankind" and pleads for tolerance.

Why don't you tell the public what you think about Joseph Smith and Jackson county, Missouri.
 
2012-08-22 01:26:00 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: That he was black.


Actually, wouldn't he have been more middle-easterny than white or black?
 
2012-08-22 01:35:45 PM  

nekom: FirstNationalBastard: That he was black.

Actually, wouldn't he have been more middle-easterny than white or black?


No one really knows for sure whether he was white or black so it's still a bit of a gray area.
 
2012-08-22 01:42:14 PM  
Favorite Bible passage? Romney cited Matthew 25:35-36-"For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me."

ORLY? When do we talk about the GOP's plans for welfare again?
 
2012-08-22 01:45:27 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: /a candidate's religion shouldn't even be an issue, nor should it be the basis of their decisions on important issues that the book of fairy tales didn't even mention.


"Shouldn't".... but you are familiar with most americans right?
 
2012-08-22 01:48:30 PM  
Mitt Romney tells skeptics of his faith: "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the Savior of mankind" ... From another planet. Oh and Satan is also the son of God too. And God had physical sex with Mary.

He kind of left those parts out.
 
2012-08-22 01:48:39 PM  

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/Stolen


Brilliant.
 
2012-08-22 01:48:51 PM  

dletter: Favorite Bible passage? Romney cited Matthew 25:35-36-"For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me."

ORLY? When do we talk about the GOP's plans for welfare again?


Really, how about the rest of passage: (Apostles, scratching heads) When did we we do these things, Lord? Whatever you do for the least of mine, you do for me.
 
2012-08-22 01:48:51 PM  
Favorite Bible passage? Romney cited Matthew 25:35-36-"For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me."

Holy shiat Romney is a socialist.
 
2012-08-22 01:50:33 PM  

ManateeGag: he's right. I don't care who he or Romney prays to. the real issue here is what kind of condiment does he put on his bologna sammiches, Mayo or Mustard? This is very important to the people of the free world!


We already know that Obama prefers Communist brown mustard to American yellow mustard. What more do you need?
 
2012-08-22 01:50:35 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: /a candidate's religion shouldn't even be an issue, nor should it be the basis of their decisions on important issues that the book of fairy tales didn't even mention.


Those clauses are contradictory when someone religion IS a basis for their decisions then it DOES matter.
 
2012-08-22 01:50:38 PM  
Favorite Bible passage? Romney cited Matthew 25:35-36-"For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me."

EXACT OPPOSITE OF GOP PLATFORM
 
2012-08-22 01:51:51 PM  

lennavan: Favorite Bible passage? Romney cited Matthew 25:35-36-"For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me."

Holy shiat Romney is a socialist.


Funny according to Ryan (this is actually what he said) the bible teaches to people about being self reliant and shouldn't be given hand-outs. He actually said this and got rebuked by Catholics bishops for saying this.
 
2012-08-22 01:52:00 PM  

lennavan: Favorite Bible passage? Romney cited Matthew 25:35-36-"For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me."

Holy shiat Romney is a socialist.


You could make the argument that Romney is more liberal than Obama.
 
2012-08-22 01:52:10 PM  
For those who don't read TFA
The former Massachusetts governor warns against those who he said take the separation of church and state "well beyond its original meaning" and aim "to remove from the public domain any acknowledgment of God."

And there was no question asking Rmoney what the orginial separration fo Church and state was and what he would do to get back to that.
 
2012-08-22 01:54:01 PM  

gunga galunga: ManateeGag: he's right. I don't care who he or Romney prays to. the real issue here is what kind of condiment does he put on his bologna sammiches, Mayo or Mustard? This is very important to the people of the free world!

We already know that Obama prefers Communist brown mustard to American yellow mustard. What more do you need?


wouldnt yellow be Communist what with the Chinese commies and brown be anti-commie with those brave commie fighters back in the thirties?
 
2012-08-22 01:54:02 PM  

PanicMan: lennavan: Favorite Bible passage? Romney cited Matthew 25:35-36-"For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me."

Holy shiat Romney is a socialist.

You could make the argument that Romney is more liberal than Obama.


Which Romney? If you have every position then of course you could make an argument he is "anything you want him to be".

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2012-08-22 01:54:20 PM  
Let's say Obama is not a Christian. That he is in fact, a Muslim. Let me introduce you to my little friend Article 6, Clause 3 of the Constitution: "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

Now, why is it that the people who get most up in arms about Obama's religion are also the ones who claim to be the most staunch defenders of said Constitution?
 
2012-08-22 01:55:00 PM  

Citrate1007: Favorite Bible passage? Romney cited Matthew 25:35-36-"For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me."

EXACT OPPOSITE OF GOP PLATFORM


'I needed help, so you cut services that could and mumbled something about bootstraps.'
 
2012-08-22 01:55:42 PM  
Favorite Bible passage? Romney cited Matthew 25:35-36-"For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me."

What RINO socialist wrote that crap? Get a job and pay for your own food, drink, clothing, and shelter. If you just give people food out of basic human compassion and decency, it will create a cycle of dependency where they will always expect you to keep them from starving to death. Next, they'll demand to have their wounds and diseases treated, even though they can't afford to pay thousands in healthcare costs for it.

Blessed are the bootstrappy, for if you are not obscenely wealthy, it is your own fault for not working hard enough.
 
2012-08-22 01:55:47 PM  

Citrate1007: Favorite Bible passage? Romney cited Matthew 25:35-36-"For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me."

EXACT OPPOSITE OF GOP PLATFORM


Not really. The passage cited was not an address to government.
 
2012-08-22 01:57:16 PM  

Corvus: PanicMan: lennavan: Favorite Bible passage? Romney cited Matthew 25:35-36-"For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me."

Holy shiat Romney is a socialist.

You could make the argument that Romney is more liberal than Obama.

Which Romney? If you have every position then of course you could make an argument he is "anything you want him to be".

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I should have added..."of course, you can also make the argument that Romney is a potted plant".
 
2012-08-22 01:57:23 PM  
i1034.photobucket.com

Yup. Obama went to church regulary and had many spiritual mentors.
 
2012-08-22 01:57:29 PM  

HAMMERTOE: Citrate1007: Favorite Bible passage? Romney cited Matthew 25:35-36-"For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me."

EXACT OPPOSITE OF GOP PLATFORM

Not really. The passage cited was not an address to government.


Believe this, but don't actually do anything about it.
 
2012-08-22 01:57:42 PM  

PanicMan: lennavan: Favorite Bible passage? Romney cited Matthew 25:35-36-"For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me."

Holy shiat Romney is a socialist.

You could make the argument that Romney is more liberal than Obama.


You could make the argument that the Indianapolis Colts are the best team in the NFL, but without the actual details of the argument and evidence of why you think that, you aren't making any actual argument that either proves it, or can be refuted.
 
2012-08-22 01:57:57 PM  
ManateeGag


he's right. I don't care who he or Romney prays to. the real issue here is what kind of condiment does he put on his bologna sammiches, Mayo or Mustard? This is very important to the people of the free world!



ketchup
 
2012-08-22 01:58:15 PM  

simplicimus: ManateeGag: he's right. I don't care who he or Romney prays to. the real issue here is what kind of condiment does he put on his bologna sammiches, Mayo or Mustard? This is very important to the people of the free world!

Jeez, the rule is simple: Mustard on hot foods, Mayo on cold foods.


wrong. mustard goes on meat. mayo goes on vegies. katsup goes on eggs.
 
2012-08-22 01:58:16 PM  

HAMMERTOE: Citrate1007: Favorite Bible passage? Romney cited Matthew 25:35-36-"For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me."

EXACT OPPOSITE OF GOP PLATFORM

Not really. The passage cited was not an address to government.


So... when asked in follow-up how will religion guide you in government, Romney replied "not at all even a little bit?"

Asked different questions about the role of religious faith in public life, both men noted its central role in national struggles like the civil rights movement, and in calls for compassion and service. And what do you know about a political leader from his faith?

"A political leader's faith can tell us a great deal or nothing," Romney said. "So much depends on what lies behind that faith. And so much depends on deeds, not words."
 
2012-08-22 01:58:53 PM  

Danger Mouse: [i1034.photobucket.com image 300x300]

Yup. Obama went to church regulary and had many spiritual mentors.


Too bad Romney hides his church history. In fact you are not even allowed in and he was even a bishop.
 
2012-08-22 01:59:42 PM  
Obama should get the blingiest cross he can find and wear it as a necklace until the election.
 
2012-08-22 01:59:49 PM  

HAMMERTOE: Citrate1007: Favorite Bible passage? Romney cited Matthew 25:35-36-"For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me."

EXACT OPPOSITE OF GOP PLATFORM

Not really. The passage cited was not an address to government.


So if you're in government, you can ignore the WORD OF GOD? That's...convenient.

How about "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's"? Is that clear enough for you?

// Jesus was black, Ronald Reagan was the devil, and the government isn't telling the truth about 9/11
 
2012-08-22 02:00:55 PM  
Interestingly enough, depending on how one defines "Christian" then Mitt Romney isn't.

Do you believe in the One God in Three Persons (i.e. the Trinity)? Romney doesn't.

Do you believe that God used to be just a guy? Not like the Incarnation of Christ, just some regular dude? Mitt Romney does.

Do you believe that God created the Universe? Mitt Romney doesn't.

I'm agnostic-leaning-atheist, and I don't care what religion people choose to believe or practice, but the people claiming that Obama isn't (their brand of) Christian while ignoring Mitt Romney's beliefs are a little disingenuous.
 
2012-08-22 02:01:20 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Let's say Obama is not a Christian. That he is in fact, a Muslim. Let me introduce you to my little friend Article 6, Clause 3 of the Constitution: "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

Now, why is it that the people who get most up in arms about Obama's religion are also the ones who claim to be the most staunch defenders of said Constitution?


To be fair... I don't think anyone who claims Obama is a Muslim is saying that alone should make him "ineligible" to be president (at least that I have seen). Of course, they are hopeful that if it was true, it would make enough people not WANT him to be president.

Although I am sure you can find some total imbeciles on the internet who somehow conjecture that simply being Muslim is grounds for impeachment.
 
2012-08-22 02:01:43 PM  

HAMMERTOE: Citrate1007: Favorite Bible passage? Romney cited Matthew 25:35-36-"For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me."

EXACT OPPOSITE OF GOP PLATFORM

Not really. The passage cited was not an address to government.


Matthew 28:18
Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.

Sounds like jesus was saying that governments should go ahead and do eveything he said, including help the poor.
 
2012-08-22 02:03:01 PM  

TrollingForColumbine: simplicimus: ManateeGag: he's right. I don't care who he or Romney prays to. the real issue here is what kind of condiment does he put on his bologna sammiches, Mayo or Mustard? This is very important to the people of the free world!

Jeez, the rule is simple: Mustard on hot foods, Mayo on cold foods.

wrong. mustard goes on meat. mayo goes on vegies. katsup goes on eggs.


Katsup is used to make Remalade or Russian dressing and never to be applied directly to food.
 
2012-08-22 02:03:33 PM  

lennavan: Favorite Bible passage? Romney cited Matthew 25:35-36-"For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me."

Holy shiat Romney is a socialist.


I'm astonished that Romney said that. Maybe he doesn't get the whole, "Judgement of Nations" part.

Jesus followed that up by saying that those that did not help the least among them would be cast into Hell. Sort of funny that he and Ryan advocate policies that actually hurt the least among us. Their ideal nation would put us among the goats, not the lambs.
 
2012-08-22 02:06:40 PM  

HAMMERTOE: Not really. The passage cited was not an address to government.


Oh I see so just because they say it in the bible doesn't mean government should do it?

So then Republicans also think banning abortion and gay marriage because of the bible is wrong too?

Amazing how that magically only works for helping the poor something JESUS actually said shiat about and not for the things that Jesus said nothing about.
 
2012-08-22 02:07:14 PM  
"I am often asked about my faith and my beliefs about Jesus Christ," Romney said.
"I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the Savior of mankind. Every religion has its own unique doctrines and history. These should not be bases for criticism but rather a test of our tolerance. Religious tolerance would be a shallow principle indeed if it were reserved only for faiths with which we agree."


Now allow me to tell you how your religion is wrong, and how you are going to burn in Hell unless you switch to MY religion.
 
2012-08-22 02:07:42 PM  

Sybarite: ManateeGag: he's right. I don't care who he or Romney prays to. the real issue here is what kind of condiment does he put on his bologna sammiches, Mayo or Mustard? This is very important to the people of the free world!

Miracle Whip


Blasphemer!
 
2012-08-22 02:08:03 PM  

buck1138: HAMMERTOE: Citrate1007: Favorite Bible passage? Romney cited Matthew 25:35-36-"For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me."

EXACT OPPOSITE OF GOP PLATFORM

Not really. The passage cited was not an address to government.

Matthew 28:18
Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.

Sounds like jesus was saying that governments should go ahead and do eveything he said, including help the poor.


Yeah, the religious right doesn't actually read the bible. They just pick and choose shiat that support their already held political beliefs.
 
2012-08-22 02:09:22 PM  
Come on guys!! This is a device argument to be making when we should be bring people together!!

You can have mayo AND mustard on a sandwich!!!

YUM!
 
2012-08-22 02:13:20 PM  

HAMMERTOE: Citrate1007: Favorite Bible passage? Romney cited Matthew 25:35-36-"For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me."

EXACT OPPOSITE OF GOP PLATFORM

Not really. The passage cited was not an address to government.


It wasn't an address to private groups either. It was simply a command to people in general to follow it whatever manner that they find best.
 
2012-08-22 02:13:49 PM  

Corvus: Come on guys!! This is a device argument to be making when we should be bring people together!!

You can have mayo AND mustard on a sandwich!!!

YUM!


If it's a southern hamburger, mayo, mustard and ketchup can coexist. Otherwise, combining mayo and mustard, or the direct use of ketchup, is blasphemy.
 
2012-08-22 02:15:27 PM  
I came here to point out that Romney's choice of bible passage is the equivalent of slipping the reporter a note reading "help the GOP has my daughter please god send 271 electoral votes in unmarked bills to drop point at mailbox no guns please god this is for real".

But I see it's been covered, though most people seem to be parsing the statement on the assumption that his current statements are for real and his previous behavior (Romneycare, etc) was the lie, whereas I kinda come from the opposite direction.

And now I'm going to be unable to envision the GOP end of this election as anything but a hostage situation with Romney as the victim and the GOP as the terrorists holding a machete to his throat on video. We've officially progressed from "the Romney campaign is like a starving puppy with only one leg, that's just sad" to "buy this candidate or we will shoot this dog".

//fark you, GOP. Romney may not have been one of the good ones as such, but he was an OK guy until you got him singing your retard song. He was one of like 4 or 5 governors in the US capable of compromise and getting shiat done with some degree of competence.
 
2012-08-22 02:17:40 PM  

ManateeGag: he's right. I don't care who he or Romney prays to. the real issue here is what kind of condiment does he put on his bologna sammiches, Mayo or Mustard? This is very important to the people of the free world!


Both. The big question is Mayo or Miracle Whip... Miracle Whip seems to be the frontrunner here in Utah.
 
2012-08-22 02:19:57 PM  

mr bad example: Obama should get the blingiest cross he can find and wear it as a necklace until the election.


Why not two?

www.jewelryadviser.org
 
2012-08-22 02:21:43 PM  

Lor M. Ipsum: FTFA: Mitt Romney tells skeptics of his faith: "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the Savior of mankind" and pleads for tolerance.

Why don't you tell the public what you think about Joseph Smith and Jackson county, Missouri.


Or for that matter, gays, women, and the poor.
 
2012-08-22 02:25:08 PM  

Corvus: Come on guys!! This is a device argument to be making when we should be bring people together!!

You can have mayo AND mustard on a sandwich!!!

YUM!


BURN THE HERETIC
 
2012-08-22 02:27:29 PM  

Mikey1969: ManateeGag: he's right. I don't care who he or Romney prays to. the real issue here is what kind of condiment does he put on his bologna sammiches, Mayo or Mustard? This is very important to the people of the free world!

Both. The big question is Mayo or Miracle Whip... Miracle Whip seems to be the frontrunner here in Utah.


i91.photobucket.com

Your blasphemous crimes against mustard shall not be tolerated.
 
2012-08-22 02:33:02 PM  
Obama sounds like he understands Christianity a whole hell of a lot better than the southern bible pounders.
 
2012-08-22 02:43:04 PM  

simplicimus: TrollingForColumbine: simplicimus: ManateeGag: he's right. I don't care who he or Romney prays to. the real issue here is what kind of condiment does he put on his bologna sammiches, Mayo or Mustard? This is very important to the people of the free world!

Jeez, the rule is simple: Mustard on hot foods, Mayo on cold foods.

wrong. mustard goes on meat. mayo goes on vegies. katsup goes on eggs.

Katsup is used to make Remalade or Russian dressing and never to be applied directly to food.


also cocktail sauce
 
2012-08-22 02:43:24 PM  

Citrate1007: Obama sounds like he understands Christianity a whole hell of a lot better than the southern bible pounders.


No. Obama understands what Jesus said, not Christianity. There is a subtle, but distinct, difference.
 
2012-08-22 02:44:59 PM  

Corvus: Danger Mouse: [i1034.photobucket.com image 300x300]

Yup. Obama went to church regulary and had many spiritual mentors.

Too bad Romney hides his church history. In fact you are not even allowed in and he was even a bishop.


Nice smear tactic. Are you suggesting that the mormon church is not ewhat it seems?

The Chruch of Latter Day Saints is VERY open about what they believe. In fact they probaby knocked on your door at on time hoping to tell you about thier faith.


You should read the 13 Articles of Mormon Faith and then research the teaching of Rev Wright and Rev Cone.
 
2012-08-22 02:54:45 PM  

Danger Mouse: Corvus: Danger Mouse: [i1034.photobucket.com image 300x300]

Yup. Obama went to church regulary and had many spiritual mentors.

Too bad Romney hides his church history. In fact you are not even allowed in and he was even a bishop.

Nice smear tactic. Are you suggesting that the mormon church is not ewhat it seems?

The Chruch of Latter Day Saints is VERY open about what they believe. In fact they probaby knocked on your door at on time hoping to tell you about thier faith.


You should read the 13 Articles of Mormon Faith and then research the teaching of Rev Wright and Rev Cone.


Well, Mormons have knocked at my door, but when I tell them I'm Catholic, they very politely leave as soon as humanely possible.
 
2012-08-22 02:58:56 PM  

dletter: Karma Chameleon: Let's say Obama is not a Christian. That he is in fact, a Muslim. Let me introduce you to my little friend Article 6, Clause 3 of the Constitution: "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

Now, why is it that the people who get most up in arms about Obama's religion are also the ones who claim to be the most staunch defenders of said Constitution?

To be fair... I don't think anyone who claims Obama is a Muslim is saying that alone should make him "ineligible" to be president (at least that I have seen). Of course, they are hopeful that if it was true, it would make enough people not WANT him to be president.

Although I am sure you can find some total imbeciles on the internet who somehow conjecture that simply being Muslim is grounds for impeachment.


Actually, while Obama obviously is Christian - or at worst pretends to be Christian like most politicians throughout history have (I don't really pay enough attention to him to judge which is the case), if he had lied and was secretly a muslim it would seem to be a valid reason to be strongly against him (for the lying, not the choice of religion) - not sure if it would be grounds for impeachment (although it would be similar to Clinton I guess - the case being based on his lying about something to Congress(?) or something, rather than being impeached for what he was lying about). Of course in practise someone being a muslim would lose them a large chunk of potential votes, even though it obviously shouldn't do (both constitutionally and morally).
 
2012-08-22 03:02:04 PM  

Mikey1969: Miracle Whip seems to be the frontrunner here in Utah


Miracle Whip is the Antimayo. The vile substance should not be allowed in civilized places and its culinary sacraments are offensive to the tastebuds of the faithful.
 
2012-08-22 03:05:43 PM  

xria:
Actually, while Obama obviously is Christian - or at worst pretends to be Christian like most politicians throughout history have (I don't really pay enough attention to him to judge which is the case), if he had lied and was secretly a muslim it would seem to be a valid reason to be strongly against him (for the lying, not the choice of religion) - not sure if it would be grounds for impeachment (although it would be similar to Clinton I guess - the case being based on his lying about something to Congress(?) or something, rather than being impeached for what he was lying about). Of course in practise someone being a muslim would lose them a large chunk of potential votes, even though it obviously shouldn't do (both constitutionally and morally).


Well, Reagan said he was a christian and seldom (if ever) went to church. Plus, his wife believed in astrology, which is (an) anathema to Catholics.
 
2012-08-22 03:06:09 PM  

Donnchadha: Citrate1007: Obama sounds like he understands Christianity a whole hell of a lot better than the southern bible pounders.

No. Obama understands what Jesus said, not Christianity. There is a subtle, but distinct, difference.


True, he's at least read the bible.......which is more than 90% of the people who base their political beliefs off of their "faith" can say.
 
2012-08-22 03:06:36 PM  
The mormon missionaries are NOT open about their batcrap crazy beliefs. They knock on your door, tell you their 'normal' beliefs, but wait until your sucked into their church to tell you about things like Kolob, Jesus and Satan being spiritual brothers, baptism for the dead, magic underwear (which is hot, but that's another conversation), Mary having physical sex with god, etc. They call it 'milk before meat' and it's designed to get you sucked in to their membership rolls and club dues list.
 
2012-08-22 03:08:36 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Let's say Obama is not a Christian. That he is in fact, a Muslim. Let me introduce you to my little friend Article 6, Clause 3 of the Constitution: "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

Now, why is it that the people who get most up in arms about Obama's religion are also the ones who claim to be the most staunch defenders of said Constitution?


They're the same ones making excuses for the non-Christian Romney, that it's 'okay' and either Romney is a Christian or his Mormonism doesn't.

We truly do get it. Obama is blah.
 
2012-08-22 03:09:26 PM  

simplicimus: Well, Mormons have knocked at my door, but when I tell them I'm Catholic, they very politely leave as soon as humanely possible.


So THAT'S the secret. I tell them I'm Jewish, and they don't leave me alone. Ditto for the rest of the Christian missionaries I've run into. Never on my doorstep, though - the pic of Jesus on a velociraptor that says "No religious soliciting and no flyers" does the trick.

Maybe the problem is that I'm a sucker for a philosophy debate, and I love correcting people's misperceptions, especially about my erstwhile faith.
 
2012-08-22 03:10:42 PM  

Danger Mouse: [i1034.photobucket.com image 300x300]

Yup. Obama went to church regulary and had many spiritual mentors.


See what I'm talking about?

Reverend Wright: God Damn America For Not Living Up To Her Potential
Fake Ass Christians: BLASPHEMER!one!!!!!!11111one11!!!

Bishop Romney: There are multiple gods, the god of Earth is just one, he originally was a mortal man from Kolob, and through Mormonism and Joseph Smith when you die you get to be a god and caretake your own planet, too, but only if you're a dude. And white.
Fake Ass Christians: Sounds legit.
 
2012-08-22 03:10:56 PM  
For a history of Joseph Smith, the beginning of the church, and many 'prophecies' I would suggest 'No Man Knows My History'. It was written and published a while ago, and the lds church didn't like how much info it revealed, they excommunicated the author. My favorite part was the prophecy written to the saints in Missouri saying that god had blessed the land for them and they'd never have to leave that was delivered to them after the locals had kicked their asses out of the county and told them to never come back....
 
2012-08-22 03:12:38 PM  

Dr Dreidel: simplicimus: Well, Mormons have knocked at my door, but when I tell them I'm Catholic, they very politely leave as soon as humanely possible.

So THAT'S the secret. I tell them I'm Jewish, and they don't leave me alone. Ditto for the rest of the Christian missionaries I've run into. Never on my doorstep, though - the pic of Jesus on a velociraptor that says "No religious soliciting and no flyers" does the trick.

Maybe the problem is that I'm a sucker for a philosophy debate, and I love correcting people's misperceptions, especially about my erstwhile faith.


The Catholic card wards off Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses. No idea why it works.
 
2012-08-22 03:22:28 PM  

Lord Dimwit: Interestingly enough, depending on how one defines "Christian" then Mitt Romney isn't.

Do you believe in the One God in Three Persons (i.e. the Trinity)? Romney doesn't.

Do you believe that God used to be just a guy? Not like the Incarnation of Christ, just some regular dude? Mitt Romney does.

Do you believe that God created the Universe? Mitt Romney doesn't.

I'm agnostic-leaning-atheist, and I don't care what religion people choose to believe or practice, but the people claiming that Obama isn't (their brand of) Christian while ignoring Mitt Romney's beliefs are a little disingenuous.


WaPo (in April): Mitt Romney Holds Huge Lead Among White Catholics and Evangelicals

upload.wikimedia.org

Some folk truly take that Mark of Cain and Curse of Ham shiat seriously. If Satan came down looking like Sam Neil and Jesus came down looking like Joe Morton or the Green Mile ... it would actually prove Mormonism right.

See also: Ex Mormon blows a gasket about symbolisms in Mormon wedding ceremony (endowment). Joseph Smith truly is the Greatest Troll of All.
 
2012-08-22 03:26:42 PM  

fenianfark: lennavan: Favorite Bible passage? Romney cited Matthew 25:35-36-"For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me."

Holy shiat Romney is a socialist.

I'm astonished that Romney said that. Maybe he doesn't get the whole, "Judgement of Nations" part.

Jesus followed that up by saying that those that did not help the least among them would be cast into Hell. Sort of funny that he and Ryan advocate policies that actually hurt the least among us. Their ideal nation would put us among the goats, not the lambs.


Except that Mormonism takes the unintended consequence of Paradise Lost (Satan is the Hero) and bumps it up a notch. Meaning, what you just wrote wouldn't be so bad.

(Paul Ryan needs a traditional ass-beating from Sister Mary Catherine for hooking up with this asshole)
 
2012-08-22 03:27:34 PM  

simplicimus:

Well, Mormons have knocked at my door, but when I tell them I'm Catholic, they very politely leave as soon as humanely possible.


That's never worked for me. Told them I was Catholic and they said, oh, it's pretty similar and kept trying to leave their books.
 
2012-08-22 03:29:59 PM  

Jim_Callahan: I came here to point out that Romney's choice of bible passage is the equivalent of slipping the reporter a note reading "help the GOP has my daughter please god send 271 electoral votes in unmarked bills to drop point at mailbox no guns please god this is for real".

But I see it's been covered, though most people seem to be parsing the statement on the assumption that his current statements are for real and his previous behavior (Romneycare, etc) was the lie, whereas I kinda come from the opposite direction.

And now I'm going to be unable to envision the GOP end of this election as anything but a hostage situation with Romney as the victim and the GOP as the terrorists holding a machete to his throat on video. We've officially progressed from "the Romney campaign is like a starving puppy with only one leg, that's just sad" to "buy this candidate or we will shoot this dog".

//fark you, GOP. Romney may not have been one of the good ones as such, but he was an OK guy until you got him singing your retard song. He was one of like 4 or 5 governors in the US capable of compromise and getting shiat done with some degree of competence.


If he was truly all that, he wouldn't have gotten caught up in the bullshiat. Nobody placed his daughter hostage but himself. He gave her to them, like Lot offering his pre-teen daughters to the mob in order to save the Angels from surprise butt sex. And Lot was the most righteous man in the city.

He didn't have to compromise anything. He CHOSE this path, for his own reasons, in full consent of what it meant and what the consequences would be.
 
2012-08-22 03:31:31 PM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: WaPo (in April): Mitt Romney Holds Huge Lead Among White Catholics and Evangelicals

[upload.wikimedia.org image 190x160]

Some folk truly take that Mark of Cain and Curse of Ham shiat seriously. If Satan came down looking like Sam Neil and Jesus came down looking like Joe Morton or the Green Mile ... it would actually prove Mormonism right.

See also: Ex Mormon blows a gasket about symbolisms in Mormon wedding ceremony (endowment). Joseph Smith truly is the Greatest Troll of All.


From my side of the Catholic Church (Liberal Theology), I can see support of Romney in the "Any path that leads to God is good". But I doubt Catholic support of Romney comes from my side.
 
2012-08-22 03:37:01 PM  

Danger Mouse: Corvus: Danger Mouse: [i1034.photobucket.com image 300x300]

Yup. Obama went to church regulary and had many spiritual mentors.

Too bad Romney hides his church history. In fact you are not even allowed in and he was even a bishop.

Nice smear tactic. Are you suggesting that the mormon church is not ewhat it seems?

The Chruch of Latter Day Saints is VERY open about what they believe. In fact they probaby knocked on your door at on time hoping to tell you about thier faith.


You should read the 13 Articles of Mormon Faith and then research the teaching of Rev Wright and Rev Cone.


I thought you were being sarcastic, until you pulled up Reverend Wright. So I'm gonna have to pull this up:

Ten Lies I Told As A Mormon Missionary

... As a full-time Mormon missionary from 1975 to 1977, I lied for the church countless times. Like my colleagues in the South Dakota-Rapid City Mission, which served the Dakotas and adjacent areas, I spoke truthfully about my background, but touted many Mormon teachings that contradict the Bible. After my mission ended, however, I examined these doctrines more closely. The harder I tried to reconcile the contradictions, the more evident they became. So, after extensive prayer and study, I resigned my church membership in 1984....

1. We're Not Trying to Convert You
2. The Bible is Insufficient
3. We're the Only True Christians
4. We're the Only True Church
5. We Have a Living Prophet
6. The Book of Mormon is Scripture
7. You're Saved By Works
8. People Can Become Gods
9. You're Born Again By Becoming a Mormon
10. Temple Marriage is Required for Eternal Life


There's more. Anyway, if you were being sarcastic, in a meta way, that's cool. I dig atheists and agnostics who think the whole thing is silly, all the comparisons are moot; I understand where you are coming from. My words are for those who self-identify as Christians, and want to accept Romney into the fold while condemning Obama.
 
2012-08-22 03:42:45 PM  
Full interview reprinted by some unauthorized Norwegian here....
 
2012-08-22 03:49:58 PM  

simplicimus: Last I heard, He was dead. What's the good news?


Maybe you should read the next chapter, because, last I heard, He was alive.
 
2012-08-22 03:52:28 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: nekom: FirstNationalBastard: That he was black.

Actually, wouldn't he have been more middle-easterny than white or black?

No one really knows for sure whether he was white or black so it's still a bit of a gray area.


I think it is pretty safe to assume that he looked like a Jew.
 
2012-08-22 03:57:10 PM  
ExperianScaresCthulhu:
1. We're Not Trying to Convert You
2. The Bible is Insufficient
3. We're the Only True Christians
4. We're the Only True Church
5. We Have a Living Prophet
6. The Book of Mormon is Scripture
7. You're Saved By Works
8. People Can Become Gods
9. You're Born Again By Becoming a Mormon
10. Temple Marriage is Required for Eternal Life

Just for giggles, let's match that against my religion, if anybody doesn't know by now, Catholic.
1. We're Not Trying to Convert You (Nope, you heathens have to come to us)
2. The Bible is Insufficient (Well, yeah, we have 2,000 years of interpretation added to it)
3. We're the Only True Christians (Yep)
4. We're the Only True Church (Yep)
5. We Have a Living Prophet (Nope)
6. The Book of Mormon is Scripture (Nope)
7. You're Saved By Works (That's a Protestant thing, so nope)
8. People Can Become Gods (Nope)
9. You're Born Again By Becoming a Mormon (Born again is a Protestant thing, so nope.)
10. Temple Marriage is Required for Eternal Life (Well, um, a Church marriage is required to be valid in the Eyes of God)
 
2012-08-22 04:02:58 PM  

stevetherobot: simplicimus: Last I heard, He was dead. What's the good news?

Maybe you should read the next chapter, because, last I heard, He was alive.


Corporeal in Heaven?
 
2012-08-22 04:19:37 PM  

simplicimus: Well, Mormons have knocked at my door, but when I tell them I'm Catholic, they very politely leave as soon as humanely possible.


You're polite. I just go straight to asking when I can get me a pack of wives.
 
2012-08-22 04:25:07 PM  

EyeballKid: simplicimus: Well, Mormons have knocked at my door, but when I tell them I'm Catholic, they very politely leave as soon as humanely possible.

You're polite. I just go straight to asking when I can get me a pack of wives.


You really need to think that through. Each wife brings a Mother-in-law, possibly a Father-in-law. If you really want to get Hell over while you are alive, go for it.
 
2012-08-22 06:01:12 PM  
At least we can all agree, in unity, that mustard belongs on deli meats.
 
2012-08-22 06:05:26 PM  

Corvus: buck1138: HAMMERTOE: Citrate1007: Favorite Bible passage? Romney cited Matthew 25:35-36-"For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me."

EXACT OPPOSITE OF GOP PLATFORM

Not really. The passage cited was not an address to government.

Matthew 28:18
Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.

Sounds like jesus was saying that governments should go ahead and do eveything he said, including help the poor.

Yeah, the religious right doesn't actually read the bible. They just pick and choose shiat that support their already held political beliefs.


No they read it is just that they read the Bible in the following way.
Literaly in context To read the Bible in context you first have to pray and also helps to have someone explain it to you. Some times you have to jump around, you can't just pull out the Sermon on the Mount you have to read every part they tell you to read before that, this is the context. And remember much of what Jesus says in the Bible is parables, parable=not factual story. How do you know what is a parable and what is not, the previous writings of the Christians and the elders in church will help you with that.

Why Jesus taught so many parables because people can't understand the word of God, why an omnipotent being couldn't make language that could be understood, uh uh something about only those with the Holy Spirt can understand. But really Jesus wants everyone to go to Heaven, even those he confuses. Look you just have to trust them, I mean him, God yeah trust God on this.
 
2012-08-22 06:09:34 PM  

Danger Mouse: Corvus: Danger Mouse: [i1034.photobucket.com image 300x300]

Yup. Obama went to church regulary and had many spiritual mentors.

Too bad Romney hides his church history. In fact you are not even allowed in and he was even a bishop.

Nice smear tactic. Are you suggesting that the mormon church is not ewhat it seems?

The Chruch of Latter Day Saints is VERY open about what they believe. In fact they probaby knocked on your door at on time hoping to tell you about thier faith.
You should read the 13 Articles of Mormon Faith and then research the teaching of Rev Wright and Rev Cone.


You should look up the doctrine of Milk Before Meat. The Mormons don't tell you everything they believe up front, they get you in the door and then slowly tell you more. As you would a baby you give milk and then progress to meat.
 
2012-08-23 12:58:31 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: simplicimus: Last I heard, He was dead. What's the good news?

That he was black.

[yoknyamdabale.files.wordpress.com image 381x480]

And, apparently, really buff.

/a candidate's religion shouldn't even be an issue, nor should it be the basis of their decisions on important issues that the book of fairy tales didn't even mention.


Actually I prefer my leaders to not be superstitious.
 
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