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(The Gazette)   Problem: College students who know their legal rights are refusing to let the police enter their homes when they knock. Solution: Make that a civil offense, with fines up to $1000 per offense   (thegazette.com) divider line 253
    More: Scary, Iowa City, Iowa, local ordinance, Iowa City Press-Citizen, disorderly house, police Chief Sam Hargadine  
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2012-08-23 01:17:19 PM  

fnordfocus: MycroftHolmes: You understand that the police chief is not advocating breaking the constitution, right? He is basically telling the city that he will not waste his men's time trying to get a search warrant for a noise complaint. Which is why the city had to use code enforcement to do an end around on the search warrant. Nowhere in the article did it state or imply that the police were advocating warrantless searches.

Sounds like that's exactly what they're advocating.

Either you let them into your house without a warrant or you get a $1000 fine.


So, do you believe that all code enforcement is a violation of the 4th amendment? If I get ticketed in absentia for a decrepit house, do you consider that a constitutional violation? If not, how is this different?
 
2012-08-23 04:50:30 PM  
Well.... 275 comments. I'm glad we all chipped in to settled this one and came to an amicable agreement.

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2012-08-24 12:40:24 PM  

MycroftHolmes: The implication in this statement is that the police feel that civil rights are a waste of time.


Exactly. Getting a warrant is not worth the time of the police so they decided to change the law. That's what the article was about.

MycroftHolmes: The questionable law enforcement is not being performed by the police. The police are not taking any actions that compromise civil rights. Municipal code enforcement is a separate entity from the police department.


The police and city council are changing a criminal law to a civil law so they don't have to get a warrant. That's what this is about. Again, the 4th amendment is annoying because warrants are annoying to get, therefore they changed this law. I don't get how you can possibly miss the civil rights implication here. What other new civil laws should we write so we can bypass the constitution?
 
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