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(CNN)   Airlines cutting back on leg room again. Apparently the most economical flying position is similar to lighting farts with a Zippo   (cnn.com ) divider line
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2012-08-22 10:40:41 AM  
www.tvgasm.com
 
2012-08-22 10:44:36 AM  
F*ck the airlines.

/they already f*ck us
 
2012-08-22 10:55:54 AM  
i1151.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-22 10:57:36 AM  
Ah, the rimjob position.
 
2012-08-22 11:23:27 AM  
Yet another example of the systematic marginalization of the tall. STOP HEIGHTISM!
 
2012-08-22 11:38:49 AM  
I would love to see a class action lawsuit filed against these asshats by all the people who are going to wind up with blood clots in their legs because of this bullshiat.
 
2012-08-22 11:39:05 AM  

Bob_Laublaw: Yet another example of the systematic marginalization of the tall. STOP HEIGHTISM!


I'm 6'2". It's so much fun to fly and not be able to move your legs for hours. Even more fun when the a-hole in front of you reclines his seat into your lap. And JetBlue you should be ashamed of yourself. I flew with you because you WEREN'T like the other airlines. You were the "cool airline". You had TV's in the back of the seats (which haven't been updated since 1999). People watch widescreen TV now. Upgrade the TVs. You advertised "the most legroom in coach". Now you will have to put a little asterisk next to that saying "the most legroom in coach but we took an inch away but you can pay extra if you want more legroom, otherwise screw you hippy".

You were cool, but now seem to be following the lemmings (other airlines) by removing seats and adding more and more fees. Virgin America is now a much cooler airline than you. Wider TV's, mood lighting, and you can order food, play games, listen to MP3's, and do more things from those TV's than you can do with the antiquated JetBlue ones. You are becoming more and more like Delta/US Air/etc. every day. And that's not a good thing.
 
2012-08-22 12:15:49 PM  
farking short people and their farking short people plans.

/also, flying is mass transit, don't expect to be comfortable...
 
2012-08-22 12:15:51 PM  
Im glad I dont really fly much anymore. I feel for you farkers that have to use those flying cattle cars
 
2012-08-22 12:16:11 PM  
fark it. I'm flying first class from now on.

And I'll be boarding last. Why would I want to watch all the proles walk past me to get to steerage? I'll finish my scotch in the lounge and wait until they call my name over the PA.
 
2012-08-22 12:16:11 PM  
American Airlines is very proud of its all new coach seats.
i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2012-08-22 12:17:55 PM  

Walker: I'm 6'2". It's so much fun to fly and not be able to move your legs for hours. Even more fun when the a-hole in front of you reclines his seat into your lap.



You don't recline your seat as well?

I used to have a good situation with Alaska Airlines....I could use my annual $100 companion voucher (via their credit card) along with the purchase of a first class ticket. (And then split the cost 50/50 with whoever was flying with me.) But they recently took that away. DAMN IT SO MUCH.

/Also 6'2".
//Saving up a a lot of miles so I can fly first class to Europe next year.
 
2012-08-22 12:17:56 PM  

Walker: Bob_Laublaw: Yet another example of the systematic marginalization of the tall. STOP HEIGHTISM!

I'm 6'2". It's so much fun to fly and not be able to move your legs for hours. Even more fun when the a-hole in front of you reclines his seat into your lap. And JetBlue you should be ashamed of yourself. I flew with you because you WEREN'T like the other airlines. You were the "cool airline". You had TV's in the back of the seats (which haven't been updated since 1999). People watch widescreen TV now. Upgrade the TVs. You advertised "the most legroom in coach". Now you will have to put a little asterisk next to that saying "the most legroom in coach but we took an inch away but you can pay extra if you want more legroom, otherwise screw you hippy".

You were cool, but now seem to be following the lemmings (other airlines) by removing seats and adding more and more fees. Virgin America is now a much cooler airline than you. Wider TV's, mood lighting, and you can order food, play games, listen to MP3's, and do more things from those TV's than you can do with the antiquated JetBlue ones. You are becoming more and more like Delta/US Air/etc. every day. And that's not a good thing.


nickgiovannetti.files.wordpress.com

Also Westjet, while I am dissapoint you're still better than Air Canada.
 
2012-08-22 12:17:59 PM  
which could also result in a savings in regards to jet fuel, provided customers bring their own Zippos.
 
2012-08-22 12:18:43 PM  

NightOwl2255: American Airlines is very proud of its all new coach seats.
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x534]


Holy shiat, please let that not be real. We are not sardines, airline people, FFS.
 
2012-08-22 12:18:56 PM  
poot!
 
2012-08-22 12:18:58 PM  
FTFA: "Our butts squish in different amounts depending on how much muscle and how much fat," says Robinette, who heads Oklahoma State University's department of design housing and merchandising. "Fat squishes more than muscle."

By the time this becomes a factor, you are already to small for most people.
 
2012-08-22 12:19:56 PM  
BTW, I like how the pic in TFA isn't an airplane cabin.
 
2012-08-22 12:20:14 PM  
Seems the fat flyer has been replaced by the seat recliner as the most hated flyer.
 
2012-08-22 12:20:45 PM  

NightOwl2255: American Airlines is very proud of its all new coach seats.
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x534]


i don't know what the picture is from, but I thought that american recently removed a couple rows of seats in order to increase leg room
 
2012-08-22 12:21:40 PM  
On an Amtrak train, the average seat pitch is about 40 inches.

Looking better every day. Now only if we could get some high speed trains.
 
2012-08-22 12:22:14 PM  

Grapple: Holy shiat, please let that not be real. We are not sardines, airline people, FFS.


Well, to be fair to AA, they did pass up these seating options:
www.examiner.com
www.examiner.com
 
2012-08-22 12:23:01 PM  
Crash position is now the only position possible
 
2012-08-22 12:23:17 PM  

The_Sponge: BTW, I like how the pic in TFA isn't an airplane cabin.


I'm fat, AND I like to recline (not all the way, just some)
 
2012-08-22 12:23:25 PM  

The_Sponge: Walker: I'm 6'2". It's so much fun to fly and not be able to move your legs for hours. Even more fun when the a-hole in front of you reclines his seat into your lap.


You don't recline your seat as well?

I used to have a good situation with Alaska Airlines....I could use my annual $100 companion voucher (via their credit card) along with the purchase of a first class ticket. (And then split the cost 50/50 with whoever was flying with me.) But they recently took that away. DAMN IT SO MUCH.

/Also 6'2".
//Saving up a a lot of miles so I can fly first class to Europe next year.


I'm 6'3" and I don't recline unless there is nobody behind me or the person is under 5'8" and even then its only slightly. This is only in United Economy Plus though where I have a bit of extra legroom, I haven't flown coach in years.

With the exception of red eye flights when everyone is expected to sleep, people, especially those under 6 feet, who recline excessively are just rude.

BBBUT I PAID FOR THIS SEAT AND ALL TEH SPACE AROUND IT!!!11 BBBBUTTT THE SEAT RECLINES SO THAT MEANS THE AIRLINE WANTS ME TO!!

Maybe, but you're still being rude.
 
2012-08-22 12:23:34 PM  
Am I the only one having a difficult time believing that the Dutch are 5" taller on average than Americans?
 
2012-08-22 12:23:36 PM  
You don't recline your seat as well?

This is one of my biggest pet peeves about flying. One asshat decides to lower his seat all the way back and everyone one else has to follow suit.

Two little courtesies:

1) ease your seat back. Don't slam it all the way back.
2) raise your seat back up when food is being served.
 
2012-08-22 12:23:39 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-08-22 12:24:00 PM  

NightOwl2255: Grapple: Holy shiat, please let that not be real. We are not sardines, airline people, FFS.

Well, to be fair to AA, they did pass up these seating options:
[www.examiner.com image 278x346]
[www.examiner.com image 560x373]


I think I'd rather see the planes use Option 1 than Option 2. I can just imagine how people would spread out in Option 2, luggage strewn all around, kids screaming and running in the aisles. It would be a forest of knees.
 
2012-08-22 12:24:49 PM  

pute kisses like a man: i don't know what the picture is from, but I thought that american recently removed a couple rows of seats in order to increase leg room


They started that a few years ago, and have now put them all back. My company uses AA most of the time when booking travel. AA is now firmly a "budget" airline.
 
2012-08-22 12:25:33 PM  
How much longer before the difference between first class and economy class is going to be either riding inside the plane or riding in the resurrected glider design of WWII craft being pulled by the plane?

/or did I just gave them a bad idea?
//parachutes extra
 
2012-08-22 12:25:58 PM  

Grapple: NightOwl2255: American Airlines is very proud of its all new coach seats.
[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x534]

Holy shiat, please let that not be real. We are not sardines, airline people, FFS.


I think it was one of those RyanAir concepts (also infamous for studying whether or not you have to pay to use the toilet). I don't think those seats would pass regulation though as there are rules in how fast a plane has to be evacuated in an emergency, and if you cram too many people in most just won't pass.
 
2012-08-22 12:26:25 PM  

The_Sponge: Walker: I'm 6'2". It's so much fun to fly and not be able to move your legs for hours. Even more fun when the a-hole in front of you reclines his seat into your lap.


You don't recline your seat as well?

I used to have a good situation with Alaska Airlines....I could use my annual $100 companion voucher (via their credit card) along with the purchase of a first class ticket. (And then split the cost 50/50 with whoever was flying with me.) But they recently took that away. DAMN IT SO MUCH.

/Also 6'2".
//Saving up a a lot of miles so I can fly first class to Europe next year.


No, I don't recline my seat.

1. I don't want to be a dick
2. It's not comfortable for me. I have a bad back and need to sit straight up.
 
2012-08-22 12:26:26 PM  

The_Sponge: //Saving up a a lot of miles so I can fly first class to Europe next year.


Eh, save a few miles and go business. Most airlines that have both international business and first to Europe aren't that much better in first, and it's not usually worth the extra miles. Or at least only fly first on the way back, when it's a longer flight and you have better lounges at the European airline's home base. Business already gets you perks like arrivals lounges anyway.
 
2012-08-22 12:26:35 PM  
I am 5'6" and felt like I could barely fit in United this weekend.

Southwest was much better on the way back. I just wish I could fly to Dallas using Southwest.
 
2012-08-22 12:26:41 PM  

reverend maynard: 1) ease your seat back. Don't slam it all the way back.



For sure...I do it as slow as I can.

But I will always recline my seat unless I'm guaranteed that everyone else on the plane does the same.
 
2012-08-22 12:26:47 PM  

reverend maynard: You don't recline your seat as well?

This is one of my biggest pet peeves about flying. One asshat decides to lower his seat all the way back and everyone one else has to follow suit.

Two little courtesies:

1) ease your seat back. Don't slam it all the way back.
2) raise your seat back up when food is being served.


I don't get how people think reclining their seat far back is comfortable. It's not like your lounge chair at home where you can put your feet up on an ottoman.
 
2012-08-22 12:26:57 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: Yet another example of the systematic marginalization of the tall. STOP HEIGHTISM!

I'm 6'2". It's so much fun to fly and not be able to move your legs for hours. Even more fun when the a-hole in front of you reclines his seat into your lap.


I can relate. I'm 6-3 and kind of claustrophobic, and flying is an ordeal anymore. As if it's not cramped enough I always end up sitting behind a 10 year old with a video game who wants to recline to the point I feel like I should be doing a root canal. Seriously, there should be a "no recline" rule if someone is behind you.
 
2012-08-22 12:26:58 PM  

redmid17: Am I the only one having a difficult time believing that the Dutch are 5" taller on average than Americans?


Nope that sounded odd to me as well. According to wikipedia, the average male dutchman 5 ft 11 in is while the average american male is between 5 ft 7 in and 5 ft 10 in.
 
2012-08-22 12:27:02 PM  
as long as you provide us with free Raspberry Ketones before in flight meals. cause i gotta stay trim
 
2012-08-22 12:27:09 PM  

Treygreen13: I think I'd rather see the planes use Option 1 than Option 2. I can just imagine how people would spread out in Option 2, luggage strewn all around, kids screaming and running in the aisles. It would be a forest of knees.


The good news is, so far, the FAA will not allow either option, but they're coming. Bet the house.
 
2012-08-22 12:27:30 PM  

Funbags: [i.imgur.com image 441x309]


Was coming here to post that.

/At some airline corporate HQ: this picture is posted as a goal.
//6'3" and hates flying.
 
2012-08-22 12:28:16 PM  

Bob_Laublaw: Yet another example of the systematic marginalization of the tall. STOP HEIGHTISM!


Looking for an endorsement from the NBA?
 
2012-08-22 12:28:50 PM  
When are they going to get approval from the FDA to pump the cabin full of nitrous oxide so nobody cares?
 
2012-08-22 12:29:08 PM  

LandOfChocolate: The_Sponge: Walker: I'm 6'2". It's so much fun to fly and not be able to move your legs for hours. Even more fun when the a-hole in front of you reclines his seat into your lap.


You don't recline your seat as well?

I used to have a good situation with Alaska Airlines....I could use my annual $100 companion voucher (via their credit card) along with the purchase of a first class ticket. (And then split the cost 50/50 with whoever was flying with me.) But they recently took that away. DAMN IT SO MUCH.

/Also 6'2".
//Saving up a a lot of miles so I can fly first class to Europe next year.

I'm 6'3" and I don't recline unless there is nobody behind me or the person is under 5'8" and even then its only slightly. This is only in United Economy Plus though where I have a bit of extra legroom, I haven't flown coach in years.

With the exception of red eye flights when everyone is expected to sleep, people, especially those under 6 feet, who recline excessively are just rude.

BBBUT I PAID FOR THIS SEAT AND ALL TEH SPACE AROUND IT!!!11 BBBBUTTT THE SEAT RECLINES SO THAT MEANS THE AIRLINE WANTS ME TO!!

Maybe, but you're still being rude.


6'2" here, mostly leg. My femurs render the seat in front of my unable to recline. Assuming the standard 31" pitch in coach.
 
2012-08-22 12:29:47 PM  
A few inches is serious money. Ask Ron Jeremy.
 
2012-08-22 12:29:53 PM  

ImpendingCynic: The_Sponge: //Saving up a a lot of miles so I can fly first class to Europe next year.

Eh, save a few miles and go business. Most airlines that have both international business and first to Europe aren't that much better in first, and it's not usually worth the extra miles. Or at least only fly first on the way back, when it's a longer flight and you have better lounges at the European airline's home base. Business already gets you perks like arrivals lounges anyway.



Nah....I have to go first..especially since I can transfer the miles to British Airways, and really enjoy that flight from Seattle to London.
 
2012-08-22 12:29:58 PM  

Bob_Laublaw: Yet another example of the systematic marginalization of the tall. STOP HEIGHTISM!


That's nothing compared to the descrimination levelled against obese Americans. We have feelings too, you know. Plump feelings. And hunger.

/When's lunch?
 
2012-08-22 12:30:22 PM  
the a-hole in front of you reclines his seat into your lap.

Oh.
I'm sorry.
I guess I thought what with the 14 inches of space and all that it would be allright if I actually used the recline button to the full 2.1 inches back
What an asshole I've been. How inconsiderate! I'll turn out that tiny spotlight I've been reading by, too. Sorry!
 
2012-08-22 12:31:16 PM  

Tax Boy: I don't get how people think reclining their seat far back is comfortable. It's not like your lounge chair at home where you can put your feet up on an ottoman.



It's still better than sitting up at 90 degrees.
 
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