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(CNN)   Tesla is also the father of wifi. Unfortunately, the article does not say if he finally figured out how to make 802.11b backwards compatible with 802.11a, so I think we are gonna have to wait a bit longer   (cnn.com) divider line 35
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2012-08-22 05:05:40 AM  
Not exactly for data transmission but rather for power transmission.

Now, Hedy Lammar the sex bomb actress of the 30's and 40's. Help invent the technology of 'Frequency-hopping spread-spectrum" a technology that allows your cell phone to move from cell tower to cell tower without interruptions.upload.wikimedia.orgLink 

And probably more important to Wifi than Tesla.
 
2012-08-22 07:32:36 AM  

optikeye: Not exactly for data transmission but rather for power transmission.

Now, Hedy Lammar the sex bomb actress of the 30's and 40's. Help invent the technology of 'Frequency-hopping spread-spectrum" a technology that allows your cell phone to move from cell tower to cell tower without interruptions.[upload.wikimedia.org image 459x600]Link 

And probably more important to Wifi than Tesla.


That's Hedley!
 
2012-08-22 08:33:27 AM  
FTFA: Combine (the fact) that I've got this army of Tesla fans and the experience and success with my other fund-raiser

Yeah...THOSE were good times.
 
2012-08-22 08:38:46 AM  
Subby's lack of understanding of the technology behind wifi standards makes me grumpy.
 
2012-08-22 08:51:08 AM  

optikeye: Not exactly for data transmission but rather for power transmission.

Now, Hedy Lammar the sex bomb actress of the 30's and 40's. Help invent the technology of 'Frequency-hopping spread-spectrum" a technology that allows your cell phone to move from cell tower to cell tower without interruptions.[upload.wikimedia.org image 459x600]Link 

And probably more important to Wifi than Tesla.


Actually, she didn't invent it. It was prior art before she and her composer came up with it. Their contribution was to use a perforated sheet like a player piano roll to control the sequence and timing of the hops.

Also, the idea of using radio to control a torpedo shows a lack of understanding of the basic physics. We still don't do that, we use wire-guided torpedoes because salt water blocks most radio transmissions quite well.
 
2012-08-22 09:06:37 AM  
Tesla is also the father of wifi.

Nope. Heinrich Hertz is the first person to intentionally transmit and receive radio waves. That's why we speak of kilohertz, megahertz, and gigahertz instead of kiloteslas, megateslas, and gigateslas.

If you want to go with theoretical underpinnings of radio, that would be James Clark Maxwell.

/Radio nerd.
 
2012-08-22 09:13:48 AM  
Still donating to his memorial via The Oatmeal.
 
2012-08-22 09:16:12 AM  
Tesla invented AC current and helped develope the radio. He did not invent an earthquake machine or talk to aliens. The government did not steal and hide his inventions when he died. In fact, he died kind of looney thinking Einstein was wrong and sayng he had a theory of gravity.
 
2012-08-22 09:18:54 AM  
Cult hero?

The guy invented so many things it boggles the mind.

The electric motor used in basically everything, for one. But man was his band an over rated hunk of garbage.
 
2012-08-22 09:33:41 AM  
Um...802.11b and 892.11a are standards which use different frequencies. They aren't supposed to be compatible.

/that's the joke
 
2012-08-22 09:36:54 AM  
I guess the author/editor didn't hit refresh on their browser before posting the article. The campaign has surpassed $900k.
 
2012-08-22 09:44:29 AM  

stuhayes2010: Tesla invented AC current and helped develope the radio. He did not invent an earthquake machine or talk to aliens. The government did not steal and hide his inventions when he died. In fact, he died kind of looney thinking Einstein was wrong and sayng he had a theory of gravity.


Tesla didn't invent AC. He did work on three phase distribution, but alternating current was already known about.
 
2012-08-22 09:46:36 AM  
Subby needs a class on wifi tech.
 
2012-08-22 09:58:15 AM  
In other news, the Oatmeal made their goal last night and they're well on their way to 1 million.
 
2012-08-22 10:01:37 AM  

linuxpyro: Tesla didn't invent AC. He did work on three phase distribution, but alternating current was already known about.


That's needlessly pedantic. He made the first AC motors and generators to support them.
 
2012-08-22 10:12:05 AM  

t3knomanser: linuxpyro: Tesla didn't invent AC. He did work on three phase distribution, but alternating current was already known about.

That's needlessly pedantic. He made the first AC motors and generators to support them.


Needlessly pedantic? This is the Geek tab, after all. We kinda do pedantic. I made a comment yesterday that the standard geek response to any question is "no, that's stupid". And once again, it holds.

If my reply to your comment would have been "no, that's stupid", no one would have been too surprised. Hell, if my entire comment would have just been those three words, it would have worked. If you're ever on this tab and at a loss for words, just drop a "no, that's stupid." it will almost always work.
 
2012-08-22 10:19:49 AM  

Gonz: Needlessly pedantic? This is the Geek tab, after all. We kinda do pedantic. I made a comment yesterday that the standard geek response to any question is "no, that's stupid". And once again, it holds.

If my reply to your comment would have been "no, that's stupid", no one would have been too surprised. Hell, if my entire comment would have just been those three words, it would have worked. If you're ever on this tab and at a loss for words, just drop a "no, that's stupid." it will almost always work.


No, that's stupid.
 
2012-08-22 10:43:42 AM  
Tesla invented a remote control boat in 1898...
I think that might qualify as data.
 
2012-08-22 10:45:47 AM  
Sorry Subby, but Australia has the patent for wifi, no matter how old the tech.
 
2012-08-22 11:07:28 AM  
Tesla invented a remote control boat in 1898...
I think that might qualify as data.


http://www.xenonproject.com/history-of-rc-timeline-a-21.html

No, that's stupid. Technically, sending a discrete signal one-way to effect a change in direction or speed in a boat (while impressive for the time) would not count as the transmission of "data"; because the command goes on a one-way trip and the device being controlled was not capable of sending feedback using the same method. Although given enough time and funding, he probably could have rigged some simple sensors to relay back depth, speed, and direction in some fashion.
 
2012-08-22 11:14:00 AM  
Did he invent the goddamn electric motor? Ok then, I don't care what else he invented - that'll do nicely on its own.
 
2012-08-22 11:26:58 AM  

Seequinn: Tesla invented a remote control boat in 1898...
I think that might qualify as data.

http://www.xenonproject.com/history-of-rc-timeline-a-21.html

No, that's stupid. Technically, sending a discrete signal one-way to effect a change in direction or speed in a boat (while impressive for the time) would not count as the transmission of "data"; because the command goes on a one-way trip and the device being controlled was not capable of sending feedback using the same method. Although given enough time and funding, he probably could have rigged some simple sensors to relay back depth, speed, and direction in some fashion.


Bullshiat. Data transmission can be one-way, like a radio or TV broadcast. Or is that not data to you?
 
2012-08-22 12:00:57 PM  
Is this like how they were claiming Edison came up with the concept of the ebook a hundred years ago? Except Edison's idea wasn't electronic and required re-pressing razor thin sheets of metal with a new book when you want to read something else. Other than that, exactly like a Kindle.
 
2012-08-22 12:03:31 PM  

JohnBigBootay: Did he invent the goddamn electric motor? Ok then, I don't care what else he invented - that'll do nicely on its own.


There were motors for decades before Tesla came along, but he did invent polyphase AC, and in particular the polyphase induction motor. Which is a device that is simultaneously so simple, elegant, rugged, and inspired in its conception (basically a transformer with a self-powered, self-regulating rotating secondary) that I too am happy to award him the title of genius with near-mystical powers of insight. With nothing more than copper and iron -- no brushes, no fussy permanent magnets, no electronics -- he came up with the prime mover that did 99% of the industrial work done by electric motors for a century.

But the Tesla worship has gotten way out of hand and attracted the same sort of people who want to believe in the 100-mpg carburetor. I'm glad his campaign is going well, but I lost a lot of respect for the Oatmeal guy while reading his Tesla strip, in which he blows a vague Tesla patent for something resembling a logical AND function into the idea that Tesla was the origin of both the transistor and the computer.
 
2012-08-22 12:28:06 PM  

EddyKilowatt: There were motors for decades before Tesla came along, but he did invent polyphase AC, and in particular the polyphase induction motor. Which is a device that is simultaneously so simple, elegant, rugged, and inspired in its conception (basically a transformer with a self-powered, self-regulating rotating secondary) that I too am happy to award him the title of genius with near-mystical powers of insight. With nothing more than copper and iron -- no brushes, no fussy permanent magnets, no electronics -- he came up with the prime mover that did 99% of the industrial work done by electric motors for a century.

But the Tesla worship has gotten way out of hand and attracted the same sort of people who want to believe in the 100-mpg carburetor. I'm glad his campaign is going well, but I lost a lot of respect for the Oatmeal guy while reading his Tesla strip, in which he blows a vague Tesla patent for something resembling a logical AND function into the idea that Tesla was the origin of both the transistor and the computer.


I am not going to argue electric motors with a guy named Eddy Kilowatt!

I get your point and there has been a rush on tesla in recent years. But I'm gonna give it a pass. Tesla has been criminally ignored - not by your engineers and science geeks - but by the general population for far too long. And the stuff people do know about from various movies and such is not his most important work. It's always the broadcast power stuff when, HELLO, THE GODDAM ELECTRIC MOTOR EVERYONE USED FOR EVERYTHING. He was well-known in his day of course and the oatmeal's caricature is a bit of an exaggeration in the other direction, but understandable in my opinion. Sometimes you have to scream to get your point across and strict accuracy can suffer when you do that. But he got the point across. I'm glad he put the batshiat insane stuff in there for perspective. Tesla had a ton of crackpot ideas. But his ac power work and the motor as you mention are leviathan accomplishments that cannot be underestimated so I'm glad the guy is getting his pop culture props even if we'll get sick of it for a while. Fact is the crazy guy should have a museum. Most smart people know that the majority of all these big things are the result of lots of different people's work and decades of alterations and refinements.
 
2012-08-22 12:35:41 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: optikeye: Not exactly for data transmission but rather for power transmission.

Now, Hedy Lammar the sex bomb actress of the 30's and 40's. Help invent the technology of 'Frequency-hopping spread-spectrum" a technology that allows your cell phone to move from cell tower to cell tower without interruptions.[upload.wikimedia.org image 459x600]Link 

And probably more important to Wifi than Tesla.

That's Hedley!


What the hell are you worried about? This is 1874. You'll be able to sue her!
 
2012-08-22 01:13:44 PM  

mr_bunny: Cult hero?

The guy invented so many things it boggles the mind.

The electric motor used in basically everything, for one. But man was his band an over rated hunk of garbage.


I loved Tesla during the 80's and to this day they're one of my favorite bands. If it wasn't for them I wouldn't have heard of the Master of Lightning for probably another five years or so. As a middle schooler with no direction, reading the insert of The Great Radio Controversy opened my eyes and I have questioned everything I hear about anything ever since.

I don't get the over rated crap though. Most people I talk to that listen to 80's music only have heard "signs"and "love song." As guitar hair metal they blew the popular rockers, poison, crüe, etc out of the water. I think they could have used a different lead singer though, then they probably would have appealed to a larger audience. They may have been bigger than they are today except for the whole grunge era kicking in.
 
2012-08-22 01:16:51 PM  
Didn't he make some sort of machine that could clone Wolverine? Whatever happened to that thing?
 
2012-08-22 01:43:36 PM  
You wouldn't remember Tesla today were it not for George Westinghouse...
 
2012-08-22 04:00:57 PM  

Ball of Confusion: You wouldn't remember Tesla today were it not for George Westinghouse...


I'd say the reverse might be true as well.
 
2012-08-22 06:13:23 PM  
You know what's sad...growing up, I never heard of Tesla, outside of the hair band. We were always taught that Edison was the father of electricity, and that without him we would be cowering in caves.

Now, at 41 years old, I find out that Tesla did all the work and Edison basically just patented the work as his own and it really makes my ass itch.

Edison may have done some good, but to find out that he's a douchenozzle of this magnitude AND that Tesla gets zero mention in school is discouraging.
 
2012-08-22 07:44:24 PM  
Bullshiat. Data transmission can be one-way, like a radio or TV broadcast. Or is that not data to you?

Have you seen TV lately?

Do you consider Rhomboid Goatcabin's example a valid case of "data" transmission?

If so, does the prior example of a radio controlled device as provided on that time line not then also invalidate the claim of Tesla being an inventor or discoverer of same?
 
2012-08-22 11:50:06 PM  

dittybopper: Tesla is also the father of wifi.

Nope. Heinrich Hertz is the first person to intentionally transmit and receive radio waves. That's why we speak of kilohertz, megahertz, and gigahertz instead of kiloteslas, megateslas, and gigateslas.


What's this "we"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_(unit)
 
2012-08-23 12:18:29 AM  

t3knomanser: linuxpyro: Tesla didn't invent AC. He did work on three phase distribution, but alternating current was already known about.

That's needlessly pedantic. He made the first AC motors and generators to support them.


He did invent the induction motor, and develop the three phase system. That's not the same thing as discovering alternating current.

EddyKilowatt: There were motors for decades before Tesla came along, but he did invent polyphase AC, and in particular the polyphase induction motor. Which is a device that is simultaneously so simple, elegant, rugged, and inspired in its conception (basically a transformer with a self-powered, self-regulating rotating secondary) that I too am happy to award him the title of genius with near-mystical powers of insight. With nothing more than copper and iron -- no brushes, no fussy permanent magnets, no electronics -- he came up with the prime mover that did 99% of the industrial work done by electric motors for a century.

But the Tesla worship has gotten way out of hand and attracted the same sort of people who want to believe in the 100-mpg carburetor. I'm glad his campaign is going well, but I lost a lot of respect for the Oatmeal guy while reading his Tesla strip, in which he blows a vague Tesla patent for something resembling a logical AND function into the idea that Tesla was the origin of both the transistor and the computer.


This.

Also, might as well leave this here:

www.linuxpyro.tk
 
2012-08-23 10:42:04 AM  

Fursecution: dittybopper: Tesla is also the father of wifi.

Nope. Heinrich Hertz is the first person to intentionally transmit and receive radio waves. That's why we speak of kilohertz, megahertz, and gigahertz instead of kiloteslas, megateslas, and gigateslas.


What's this "we"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_(unit)


That's why we typically use microteslas and milliteslas, because a whole Tesla is just too awesome for most people.
 
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