i know, and there used to be the amazing wall running through berlin where kids could graffiti stuff, but then a bunch of freedom-hating assholes came in and tore it down.

First, a spray painter that can draw cartoons and balloon letters is no more an "artist" than are street rappers or pop rock stars. Second, a luxury high rise will bring more money to NYC, bring in more jobs (both in construction and, afterwards, in services), and will probably house a few real, successful artists.

It's shiat like this that makes it hard for people to like liberal, hipster douche bags.

It's not really graffiti unless it involves running from The Man. The developers are just helping keep things real.

Not that I ride the 7 train that often, but it's always cool to see that place when you pass it. And sometimes you can see the side from the LIRR just before you go into the tunnel. Not that I'm for graffiti in general, but I'm ok with it in this case when it's allowed on the property and there's some obvious talent being displayed.

But that whole LIC area is starting to get built up because people are realizing that it's right across the river from Midtown and it's not too hard to get rid of old factories. They even built a park on the waterfront. I know a couple of people who moved there and it's pretty nice even though there isn't much around (yet, I guess).

Come to Long Island, boys and girls. We got plenty of abandoned buildings for you to play with, and would love to see the gang tags covered up by works of art.

But on a serious note, I'm going to have to take a trip back out to 5Pointz before the demo starts. I haven't been there in awhile.

change1211: Doesn't really seem like he's trolling, just seems like you don't like his point of view.

On Fark, a differing point of view IS "trolling." The word means about as much as "hipster."

So, this is the last abandoned building in NYC? They're done?

change1211: seadoo2006: Lucky LaRue: First, a spray painter that can draw cartoons and balloon letters is no more an "artist" than are street rappers or pop rock stars. Second, a luxury high rise will bring more money to NYC, bring in more jobs (both in construction and, afterwards, in services), and will probably house a few real, successful artists.

It's shiat like this that makes it hard for people to like liberal, hipster douche bags.

5/10 ... I'm sure you'll get some bites.

Doesn't really seem like he's trolling, just seems like you don't like his point of view.

I was confused by the 'trolling" myself. I mean, the guy made a reasonably intelligent comment and it's labeled 'trolling'. You've got to love the internets.

It's not art unless someone is willing to pay for it.

Crewmannumber6: So, this is the last abandoned building in NYC? They're done?

Yes, with the collapse of the last, free, abandoned factory in 2013, NYC began a downward spiral that culminated in the great conclave of 2040, where dirty professionals, artists, and working class people had so widely infested the town, that street entrepreneurs (people who often re-distributed wealth, provided alternative medicines, sensual relief services, and those who simply provided 'blunt force therapy') were at an all time low. Nasty children, screeching as they swarmed over public spaces. With the latest generation of high-tech buildings and the new clean energy sources they used, as well as the so-called "green" practices of these mobs, the rich patina the city used to acquire from the output of its former industrial base.

The beginning of the end.