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(WSBTV)   Parents respond calmly and rationally to public art near school depicting nudity. "The pubic hair is showing and nakedness. It's not necessary." "This is a shortcut from his school. We'll take the long way home"   (wsbtv.com) divider line 200
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2012-08-22 08:23:21 AM  

gumpy: FizixJunkee: Our daughter is 4 years old and sees me (her mother) naked on a regular basis. She knows that pubic hair is something you get when you start becoming an adult, and that both boys and girls get it (though she's never seen her father's pubic hair, or even his genitalia for that matter). She also sees my breasts on a near daily basis, and she knows that she used to get milk from them. All this, and she's not a bit scarred.

Nudity ≠ profanity

just out of interest why not her dads junk? Is he not around or do you/he not consider it appropriate?

Pardon for prying...


Actually the fact that was explicitly stated in of itself is a rather interesting point.
 
2012-08-22 08:29:50 AM  
www.bestcareanywhere.net

Naked nuditity?
 
2012-08-22 08:32:28 AM  

xaldin: gumpy: FizixJunkee: Our daughter is 4 years old and sees me (her mother) naked on a regular basis. She knows that pubic hair is something you get when you start becoming an adult, and that both boys and girls get it (though she's never seen her father's pubic hair, or even his genitalia for that matter). She also sees my breasts on a near daily basis, and she knows that she used to get milk from them. All this, and she's not a bit scarred.

Nudity ≠ profanity

just out of interest why not her dads junk? Is he not around or do you/he not consider it appropriate?

Pardon for prying...

Actually the fact that was explicitly stated in of itself is a rather interesting point.


Agreed, that's why I asked.
 
2012-08-22 08:37:21 AM  

SubBass49: [sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 507x960]

I like Banksy's approach...lol


That is fantastic
 
2012-08-22 08:42:43 AM  
People who complain about art like that as being porn are arrogant in that they think what something is to them is what it is period and they won't recognize that not everyone sees it the same way they do.

Thinking that an exposed human body is a shameful thing even in a non-sexual context does not come naturally.
 
2012-08-22 08:49:07 AM  
The painting shows a woman nude, then she dresses, and then she take off her dress, which turns into a wild animal that walks away. People upset with the image don't understand the message. But one parent said she does.

"It starts off as a woman and it end up as a dog so think about what it's really saying. Read between the lines," Wanda Cooper said.



This is why we can't have nice things. We listen to stupid people and we pay such attention that we write their words down so we can pass them along to others with accuracy and fidelity.

Does that seem right to you?

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-08-22 08:51:18 AM  
Since when does pornography = nudity? Pornography is pictures of sex. Nakedness isn't necessary sex.

If naked = porn, then I hope those parents don't help their kids in the bath tub. That's kiddie porn.
 
2012-08-22 09:00:22 AM  

Bullseyed: Since when does pornography = nudity? Pornography is pictures of sex. Nakedness isn't necessary sex.

If naked = porn, then I hope those parents don't help their kids in the bath tub. That's kiddie porn.


relax muslims don't have a problem with baby Aisha (only SIX years old)
 
2012-08-22 09:00:52 AM  
If God wanted us to be naked, we would have been born that way.
 
2012-08-22 09:20:27 AM  
Good lord - McDonough and Sawtell, next to the Federal penitentiary, site of a massive closed auto factory, representative of the sort of relentless urban blight that will never be gentrified, full of kids who have literally no chance, rent by the week apartments, gunfire, boarded up half burnt crack houses - AND THIS IS WHAT IS BUGGING SOMEONE?

/maybe 2 miles from my house
//can't see it from my porch, but I hear the gunfire all the time.
///The mosque is in a McDonalds that closed. Really. The neighborhood is so bad McDonalds couldn't make it.
 
2012-08-22 09:21:38 AM  

hitlersbrain: Really? You need to be told NOT to paint naked chicks and mens' junk on a publicly viewed wall? Really?


In America in this day and age. Otherwise, it's quite normal.
 
2012-08-22 09:24:21 AM  

jso2897: "It seems to be" is code-talk for "my personal feelings are objective facts".
I thought that i already made it clear that I do not acknowledge the objective facuality of your personal whims.


No one is asking you to. And, likewise. If you disagree, state that and explain why you feel that way, other than "Well, that's just your opinion." That's how adults have a conversation. I have many opinions. Some are true. Others are subjective. I'm sure some are incorrect. Explain what you think the artist's motivation was, if not to shock, keeping in mind that he submitted a different piece for approval and changed it for the final. Is that the point you're contending?
 
2012-08-22 09:43:11 AM  
"This is a shortcut from his school. We'll take the long way home."

"Now if you'll excuse me, little Timmy wants to go home to blow the heads off people in his new video game."
 
2012-08-22 10:11:45 AM  
The parents are correct. They must, at all cost, insure that their children never, ever see a pussy. Those things are just distracting and, of course, filthy. If boys never see one, they will never be tempted to want to pollute himself with one.
 
2012-08-22 10:22:23 AM  
D_Evans45:
I saw my first porn in elementary school (shemale porn the first time, no less, think about how confused a kid could get) and heard some real heinous stories in the bible at the same age.

I vividly remember Abrahams daughters getting him blackout drunk so they could have sex with him.



nope. that was Lot, post-sodom.
 
2012-08-22 10:28:28 AM  

Paul Baumer: Good lord - McDonough and Sawtell, next to the Federal penitentiary, site of a massive closed auto factory, representative of the sort of relentless urban blight that will never be gentrified, full of kids who have literally no chance, rent by the week apartments, gunfire, boarded up half burnt crack houses - AND THIS IS WHAT IS BUGGING SOMEONE?


It's basically "The Wire" and people are upset about tits on a wall.

People are farked up.
 
2012-08-22 10:38:16 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: some people don't like public nudity, some don't like bacon.
yet only one is bad.
go figure.


Some people ignore what they don't like. Other people get hysterical and make a massive media frenzy and major stink over I, yet only one is rational.
Go figure.
 
2012-08-22 10:45:33 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Not sexy but some might be NSFW. I didn't see the mural from the article.

Unbelievable people are scared of this stuff. They must think their kids are raving lunatics.


No, but they're *making* their kids raving lunatics.

Sex/body shame is arguably a defining characteristic of American culture, one that I hope will one day be eradicated.

Part of doing that is not to freak out like these parents when unattractive people offend your sense of modesty.
 
2012-08-22 10:50:49 AM  
Since artistic nudity = pornography, what about parents with pics of their nekkid kids in the tub?

Should they be in prison for child porn?
 
2012-08-22 11:17:01 AM  
Vigelandsparken would give those people a heart attack.

media-2.web.britannica.com
 
2012-08-22 11:23:14 AM  

zzrhardy: crab66: There are not many things worse than young parents who think they are somehow enlightened and so entitled that the rest of the world should revolve around their snowflake.

Young parents? Since when.

Most of the kids these days are born to women pushing 35 to 40 who need something to cling to in their life, after having a breakdown over the fact that not everyone wants to fark them anymore.

"I am not special anymore :( ...but I can have a kid to be special and entitled again!"


The same ones who say they'll never want kids because they are happy doing whatever they want all the time?

MaudlinMutantMollusk: How can you brainwash someone into believing their eternal soul depends on the approval and forgiveness of an invisible intangible being unless you first break down their self-esteem by convincing them that their very being, and by extension everyone elses, is inherently nasty and sinful?

/violence is still OK, though


People can be killed in the most horrible ways imaginable but you show ONE NIPPLE and the US goes mad.
 
2012-08-22 11:47:26 AM  

CreamFilling: I'm not in any way arguing what qualifies as art or if there should be limits on what an artist should be able to express in their work. But if the intent of the art is to shock, which it certainlyseems to be in this case, then there are better places for it than a mural on a public street.


Would you care to explain just what exactly is so shocking about this mural to you? Because I don't see it.
 
2012-08-22 11:48:43 AM  

FizixJunkee: I like the mural.


Same. It sounds like a really interesting piece (well, unless the artist couldn't draw for shiat).
 
2012-08-22 11:50:40 AM  

PsiChick: FizixJunkee: I like the mural.

Same. It sounds like a really interesting piece (well, unless the artist couldn't draw for shiat).


It's got flat coloring, but the artist seems to have the fundamentals of building a human body down.
 
2012-08-22 11:58:27 AM  

The My Little Pony Killer: CreamFilling: I'm not in any way arguing what qualifies as art or if there should be limits on what an artist should be able to express in their work. But if the intent of the art is to shock, which it certainlyseems to be in this case, then there are better places for it than a mural on a public street.

Would you care to explain just what exactly is so shocking about this mural to you? Because I don't see it.


I don't see it eitet, because I haven't seen the mural. Have you? That being said, full frontal nudity on a public wall, especially when you promised something else, suggests something being done for shock value. And there's a substantial difference between doing something for shock value and actually being shocking.
 
2012-08-22 12:13:52 PM  

CreamFilling: The My Little Pony Killer: CreamFilling: I'm not in any way arguing what qualifies as art or if there should be limits on what an artist should be able to express in their work. But if the intent of the art is to shock, which it certainlyseems to be in this case, then there are better places for it than a mural on a public street.

Would you care to explain just what exactly is so shocking about this mural to you? Because I don't see it.

I don't see it eitet, because I haven't seen the mural. Have you? That being said, full frontal nudity on a public wall, especially when you promised something else, suggests something being done for shock value. And there's a substantial difference between doing something for shock value and actually being shocking.


Yes, a link to the mural was posted near the beginning of this thread. You should try clicking it sometime and coming back with an informed opinion. The way you're acting now is really not that different than how the parents in TFA are behaving. You're all hysterical over basically nothing.

Look at it this way: Has a representative from either the church or the mosque come out to call it offensive? Have any of the daycare workers spoken out against it? No, it's all concerned parents. You're welcome to keep your children in bubblewrap their entire lives, but you also need to recognize that that particular path must come with keeping your child indoors all the time. The rest of the world will not sanitize itself to suit your worldview.
 
2012-08-22 12:46:44 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Look at it this way: Has a representative from either the church or the mosque come out to call it offensive?


I apologize, but I have confused you for another FARKer that reads the articles.

It's also near a school, a day care center and a mosque. The imam at the mosque said the last thing his community needs is a nude woman for all to see.
 
2012-08-22 12:56:41 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Yes, a link to the mural was posted near the beginning of this thread. You should try clicking it


Are you talking about the link that specifically said the piece in question wasn't included or the one with the picture that might as well have been taken from the moon?
 
2012-08-22 12:56:53 PM  
I hope none of these outraged people ever take a trip to Europe. There is Art and Architecture with nudity in it freaking everywhere, and for some reason those people have no problem with it and their society hasn't burnt to the ground. Imagine that.
 
2012-08-22 12:58:04 PM  

CreamFilling: The My Little Pony Killer: Yes, a link to the mural was posted near the beginning of this thread. You should try clicking it

Are you talking about the link that specifically said the piece in question wasn't included or the one with the picture that might as well have been taken from the moon?


Look at it this way: Has a representative from either the church or the mosque come out to call it offensive? Have any of the daycare workers spoken out against it? No, it's all concerned parents. You're welcome to keep your children in bubblewrap their entire lives, but you also need to recognize that that particular path must come with keeping your child indoors all the time. The rest of the world will not sanitize itself to suit your worldview.
 
2012-08-22 01:00:11 PM  
And seeing as how the link earlier is of works by the same artist with similar themes, I find it quite telling that you assume it has nothing to do with anything...
 
2012-08-22 01:13:08 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Look at it this way: Has a representative from either the church or the mosque come out to call it offensive? Have any of the daycare workers spoken out against it? No, it's all concerned parents.


Interesting, I guess I must be on ignore....

RoyBatty: The My Little Pony Killer: Look at it this way: Has a representative from either the church or the mosque come out to call it offensive?

I apologize, but I have confused you for another FARKer that reads the articles.

It's also near a school, a day care center and a mosque. The imam at the mosque said the last thing his community needs is a nude woman for all to see.

 
2012-08-22 01:15:38 PM  
One of the huge and best features of ignore is that you don't have to listen to people that have upset you in the past demonstrate that you are wrong and misinformed thereby keeping from getting upset once more.
 
2012-08-22 01:20:30 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Look at it this way: Has a representative from either the church or the mosque come out to call it offensive?


Yes? The Imam? The one quoted in the article? Is this a trick question?

The My Little Pony Killer: And seeing as how the link earlier is of works by the same artist with similar themes, I find it quite telling that you assume it has nothing to do with anything...


I guess I thought I should judge this piece on its own merits. Especially since he submitted another design for approval and then changed it when he actually put it up on the wall.

Are you discarding the argument that yes, you've seen the mural and it's fine?
 
2012-08-22 01:26:07 PM  

CreamFilling: I guess I thought I should judge this piece on its own merits. Especially since he submitted another design for approval and then changed it when he actually put it up on the wall.



Everyone keeps assuming the artist is a man. As far as I know, the artist's name and gender haven't been revealed, but I think there's a good chance the artist is a woman.
 
2012-08-22 01:26:52 PM  

CreamFilling: The My Little Pony Killer: Look at it this way: Has a representative from either the church or the mosque come out to call it offensive?

Yes? The Imam? The one quoted in the article? Is this a trick question?

The My Little Pony Killer: And seeing as how the link earlier is of works by the same artist with similar themes, I find it quite telling that you assume it has nothing to do with anything...

I guess I thought I should judge this piece on its own merits. Especially since he submitted another design for approval and then changed it when he actually put it up on the wall.

Are you discarding the argument that yes, you've seen the mural and it's fine?


Do you see anything obscene in the image they showed you in TFA, besides the censor bubble they decided to add before printing? Are you seriously going to argue that a pair of breasts is obscene?
 
2012-08-22 01:29:01 PM  

CreamFilling: The My Little Pony Killer: Look at it this way: Has a representative from either the church or the mosque come out to call it offensive?

Yes? The Imam? The one quoted in the article? Is this a trick question?


Would you like to point out exactly where the Imam is quoted? I see mention of an Imam, and then a quote that may or may not be related to said Imam.

I also see NO REASON GIVEN for WHY this mural is obscene, just that a bunch of folks with their panties in a bunch don't like it. They're more than welcome to design their own mural.
 
2012-08-22 01:30:01 PM  

CreamFilling: I guess I thought I should judge this piece on its own merits. Especially since he submitted another design for approval and then changed it when he actually put it up on the wall.


I'm interested in your thoughts on the girl who was denied her diploma over the use of the word "hell" in her graduation speech. As I recall, she also changed her speech from the one she submitted for approval.
 
2012-08-22 01:40:11 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: CreamFilling: The My Little Pony Killer: Look at it this way: Has a representative from either the church or the mosque come out to call it offensive?

Yes? The Imam? The one quoted in the article? Is this a trick question?

Would you like to point out exactly where the Imam is quoted? I see mention of an Imam, and then a quote that may or may not be related to said Imam.


Seriously, If this is the sort of dodge s/he is using, I can understand why I am on ignore. The report says there is an imam upset about it, but that's not good enough. However, the rest of the report is taken as accurate. And worse, a simple google reveals who the Imam is here.

i.imgur.com
i.imgur.com 

farking Googles, How Do They Work?
 
2012-08-22 01:45:41 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: CreamFilling: The My Little Pony Killer: Look at it this way: Has a representative from either the church or the mosque come out to call it offensive?

Yes? The Imam? The one quoted in the article? Is this a trick question?

Would you like to point out exactly where the Imam is quoted? I see mention of an Imam, and then a quote that may or may not be related to said Imam.

I also see NO REASON GIVEN for WHY this mural is obscene, just that a bunch of folks with their panties in a bunch don't like it. They're more than welcome to design their own mural.


3rd paragraph, not a quote but is attributed to the imam. Has a representative from either the church or the mosque come out to call it offensive? Why would that matter if it is not paid for by the city and is on private property?
 
2012-08-22 02:05:09 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: CreamFilling: The My Little Pony Killer: Look at it this way: Has a representative from either the church or the mosque come out to call it offensive?

Yes? The Imam? The one quoted in the article? Is this a trick question?

The My Little Pony Killer: And seeing as how the link earlier is of works by the same artist with similar themes, I find it quite telling that you assume it has nothing to do with anything...

I guess I thought I should judge this piece on its own merits. Especially since he submitted another design for approval and then changed it when he actually put it up on the wall.

Are you discarding the argument that yes, you've seen the mural and it's fine?

Do you see anything obscene in the image they showed you in TFA, besides the censor bubble they decided to add before printing? Are you seriously going to argue that a pair of breasts is obscene?


I guess I should drive over there and take a pic for everyybody. Personally, I find the Federal penitentiary, junk car lots, crappy housing, and huge industrial slag heap you can also see far more obscene but that's just like, my opinion man.
 
2012-08-22 02:07:11 PM  

mekki: RoyBatty: mekki: Genevieve Marie: mekki: /also paint it over mostly because it's a bad piece of art.
//oh, wow, nudity. So edgy.


A big part of good art is challenging conventions and making people think. It actually IS interesting to display the nude female form in public in a piece that appears to be about a woman going through a mental transition and letting go of some negative things.

Nudity will stop being important in art when people stop getting offended by nudity.

Oh, come on. It's a bad piece of barely high school grade art. The artist isn't telling anything that has not been done a million times before in a better way. Heck, there are Animorphs book covers that are deeper than this.

It was a piece across from a church and mosque and school in what seems to a blighted area meant to improve an empty lot. It was a piece that had to be approved by a city commission that approved a different piece.

It was the artist's job to create that commissioned piece, it was not the artist's job to get all holier than thou and insult the community by presuming he had anything he could challenge them with or that they *needed* challenging. That's presumptuous, arrogant, condescending, patriarchal stereotyped possibly bigoted shiat.

No, it was him trying to get attention. I would bet money on that. This little stunt what he did here? For an artist, you can't pay for the press he is getting now. People are looking him up to see what other painting he has. There are people who are siding with him because they want to turn this into a free speech issue. Or at least art versus conservatism. His phone is probably ringing off the hook. People want to interview him. And, I guarantee you, those same people are going to be plunking down cold, hard cash for his works.

This is grade A, P.T. Barnum con work.


And I thought the Birthers, 9/11 Truthers, and Faked Moon Landing crowd were as bunch of paranoid nutsacks...

Go ahead, bring Hitler and Pearl Harbor into your pathetic conspiracy theories. You've already convinced yourselves of enough bullshiat, what's a few more turds?
 
2012-08-22 02:23:11 PM  
i2.photobucket.com

I am OUTRAGED!
 
2012-08-22 05:04:34 PM  
Soeone find the bastard that drew that. Ship his ass off to japan. To learn to draw neked womens properly.
 
2012-08-22 05:12:46 PM  
Awww you poor southerners and your delicate sensibilities. It's the human body, you have one yourself. Get over yourselves and stop being butthurt at every chance you get.
 
2012-08-22 06:20:07 PM  

ultraholland: The imam at the mosque said the last thing his community needs is a nude woman for all to see.

So he admits the community needs it.


It just not high on his list.

/he has more important infidels fish to fry.
 
2012-08-23 09:41:57 AM  
Wait, this offended muslims? Call me when they're not offended by something.
 
2012-08-23 12:16:52 PM  

frankencj: The My Little Pony Killer: CreamFilling: The My Little Pony Killer: Look at it this way: Has a representative from either the church or the mosque come out to call it offensive?

Yes? The Imam? The one quoted in the article? Is this a trick question?

Would you like to point out exactly where the Imam is quoted? I see mention of an Imam, and then a quote that may or may not be related to said Imam.

I also see NO REASON GIVEN for WHY this mural is obscene, just that a bunch of folks with their panties in a bunch don't like it. They're more than welcome to design their own mural.

3rd paragraph, not a quote but is attributed to the imam. Has a representative from either the church or the mosque come out to call it offensive? Why would that matter if it is not paid for by the city and is on private property?


Why would his outrage even matter if it wasn't paid for by the state and is on private property? He has eyes, I'm sure his eyes have muscles, he can use them to *gasp* look AWAY from whatever it is that offends him.
 
2012-08-23 12:17:53 PM  
I see there are yet to be any actual reasons given for WHY this mural is offensive other than "some guys in a newspaper said it was!" and "boobies! pubic hair! wharrgarbl!"
 
2012-08-23 12:23:06 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Why would his outrage even matter if it wasn't paid for by the state and is on private property? He has eyes, I'm sure his eyes have muscles, he can use them to *gasp* look AWAY from whatever it is that offends him.


He has object permanence - something that kids learn in their first two years. It's the fact that it exists that seems to piss him off.
 
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