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(WSBTV)   Parents respond calmly and rationally to public art near school depicting nudity. "The pubic hair is showing and nakedness. It's not necessary." "This is a shortcut from his school. We'll take the long way home"   (wsbtv.com) divider line 200
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2012-08-22 01:48:15 AM  

SnarfVader: It's sad so many people are ashamed of the human body.


it is pretty messed up that a good chunk of our society are so repressed that they fear the nude body yet they don't care if they show 10 people getting gunned down in cold blood in prime time all while making it as violent as possible. What's even funnier is that a lot of those people are self professed Christians yet the nude body to them is so scary and they prefer people to be around violence.


/wishes we were a world with out religion
//might have flying cars by now
 
2012-08-22 01:49:43 AM  
Dangit, they need to replace that filth with good, wholesome images. Like soldiers with guns, or swords. Or Jebus dressed in just a white loincloth.

Could someone tell me where in the bible where it says nudity is evil?
 
2012-08-22 01:51:41 AM  

SnarfVader: It's sad so many people are ashamed of the human body.


I passed by this every day I went to a class in the medical school:



I passed by it with my cousin on Monday, and she definitely reacted annoyingly.

/don't worry, people usually knit them clothes in the winter months so they don't catch a chill
 
2012-08-22 01:52:51 AM  
"The city is exploring what it can do since the mural was not approved..."

Jack shiat? Free speech on private property, unless the Supreme Court recently ruled against artistic expression.
 
2012-08-22 01:52:57 AM  
FINE not like I really wanted that image to work at all or anything.

relevant article
 
2012-08-22 01:56:12 AM  

RoyBatty: mekki: Genevieve Marie: mekki: /also paint it over mostly because it's a bad piece of art.
//oh, wow, nudity. So edgy.


A big part of good art is challenging conventions and making people think. It actually IS interesting to display the nude female form in public in a piece that appears to be about a woman going through a mental transition and letting go of some negative things.

Nudity will stop being important in art when people stop getting offended by nudity.

Oh, come on. It's a bad piece of barely high school grade art. The artist isn't telling anything that has not been done a million times before in a better way. Heck, there are Animorphs book covers that are deeper than this.

It was a piece across from a church and mosque and school in what seems to a blighted area meant to improve an empty lot. It was a piece that had to be approved by a city commission that approved a different piece.

It was the artist's job to create that commissioned piece, it was not the artist's job to get all holier than thou and insult the community by presuming he had anything he could challenge them with or that they *needed* challenging. That's presumptuous, arrogant, condescending, patriarchal stereotyped possibly bigoted shiat.


No, it was him trying to get attention. I would bet money on that. This little stunt what he did here? For an artist, you can't pay for the press he is getting now. People are looking him up to see what other painting he has. There are people who are siding with him because they want to turn this into a free speech issue. Or at least art versus conservatism. His phone is probably ringing off the hook. People want to interview him. And, I guarantee you, those same people are going to be plunking down cold, hard cash for his works.

This is grade A, P.T. Barnum con work.
 
2012-08-22 01:59:41 AM  
 
2012-08-22 02:00:41 AM  

Old enough to know better: Dangit, they need to replace that filth with good, wholesome images. Like soldiers with guns, or swords. Or Jebus dressed in just a white loincloth.

Could someone tell me where in the bible where it says nudity is evil?


I think it's just a page of two in. I remember something about a snake, some fruit and a few fig leaves.
 
2012-08-22 02:07:41 AM  

SubBass49: fusillade762: How dare they try to call that filth art! Art NEVER has nudity in it!

CSB time...

I'm a high school art teacher, and my master-teacher when I started about 11 years ago was this old-school Black guy who'd been teaching for like 30 years. Really cool, chill guy...very well-versed in art & art-history topics. He also had a really extensive collection of Art In America Magazine in his classroom.

Fast-forward to 3 years after I've gotten a contract job at the school, and he has another student-teacher, this time an older woman, obviously a 2nd-career type. She tells us she's an artist, and that she loves to paint, etc. However, one day while she's supposed to be observing her master teacher, he happens to look over to where she's sitting, and sees that she has a pair of scissors and a stack of his Art In America magazines. He drops in to see what's going on, and she's CUTTING OUT ANY IMAGES THAT HAVE NUDITY IN THEM. He stays cool and calm and asks what she's doing, and she replies that nudity is filthy and has no place in a high school art classroom. Needless to say he DID NOT recommend her for a teaching credential, though he did recommend her for some counseling.

/CSB


cubiyanqui.files.wordpress.com
"There's nothing wrong with you, of course."
 
2012-08-22 02:13:50 AM  
meh. to both the protest and counterprotest. Its also kind of crappy art.
 
2012-08-22 02:29:49 AM  

CreamFilling: SnarfVader: It's sad so many people are ashamed of the human body.

It's just as sad that so many people use the human body as a tool to shock others. These are two sides of the same coin.



However, this is not one of those cases. Please explain how this is meant to be 'shocking'.
It's art, and it's a body. If the figure was shown masturbating then I could see your point but she is disrobing [something we all do every day] and transforming into anotehr figure. Pleae explain how to represent that w/o removing clothes.
 
2012-08-22 02:30:17 AM  

dbubb: meh. to both the protest and counterprotest. Its also kind of crappy art.


Word.
 
2012-08-22 02:30:27 AM  

CreamFilling: SnarfVader: It's sad so many people are ashamed of the human body.

It's just as sad that so many people use the human body as a tool to shock others. These are two sides of the same coin.


Truly it is.

On one side, we have people whose intellectual development is so stunted, they are shocked at the human body, which can be found anyway from most google image searches, and on the other side we have people that can shock those developmentally stunted twits...

Both sides are bad really.
 
2012-08-22 02:31:39 AM  
Putting the murals near religious buildings is a bit provocative for public space but they seem harmless enough. As others have pointed out, if I had kids I'd rather them see a bit of nudity than some dude getting his blown off during prime time on the tv.
 
2012-08-22 02:32:48 AM  
Here is some truly shocking nudity: NSFW!!! Link
 
2012-08-22 02:33:20 AM  

Mithiwithi: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: At least the Baptists and moslems finally have some common ground. Silver lining, amirite!

They always have had. Apart from each other, they love and hate almost exactly the same things.

Tangent:
[urlybits.com image 460x700] 
/always thought the answer key was a bit anvilicious


You could update that with a Likud member/Tatsuma dude as a third guy. Hates women, hates Obama, clings to book/scroll, pwns shiatload of guns, etc.
 
2012-08-22 02:37:03 AM  

mekki: No, it was him trying to get attention. I would bet money on that. This little stunt what he did here? For an artist, you can't pay for the press he is getting now. People are looking him up to see what other painting he has. There are people who are siding with him because they want to turn this into a free speech issue. Or at least art versus conservatism. His phone is probably ringing off the hook. People want to interview him. And, I guarantee you, those same people are going to be plunking down cold, hard cash for his works.

This is grade A, P.T. Barnum con work.



You do realize that neither the artist's name nor the artist's gender have been made public right?

If that was the game, he or she is keeping a pretty low profile.

 
 
2012-08-22 02:42:09 AM  

davidphogan: SubBass49: [sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 507x960]

I like Banksy's approach...lol

Fortunately I didn't damage my keyboard. It's part of my laptop, and damaging the keyboard would make it harder to post that I LOL'd.


What you said. I love fark today. Here's another image on the topic of...uh... "shrubbery art":
I show it to my art history students when discussing Classical Greek art and they usually lol.

adnauseous.com
 
2012-08-22 02:44:02 AM  
Eh. Wouldn't head out of my way to see the piece. Wouldn't paint over or otherwise remove. Nice use of the space, though. The row of images makes the piece more interesting and does make the area seem a little nicer.
 
2012-08-22 02:44:24 AM  
My only question is: who paid for the crappy art? Because I have no problem with the nudity or anything - but if taxpayers paid for that shiat, they got ripped off big time.
 
2012-08-22 02:52:15 AM  
I am more concerned about this school depicting nudity that subby speaks of...won't somebody think of the children??

//or are they the ones who are nude?
///I'll just sit over there...
 
2012-08-22 02:53:26 AM  

vd61: CreamFilling: SnarfVader: It's sad so many people are ashamed of the human body.

It's just as sad that so many people use the human body as a tool to shock others. These are two sides of the same coin.


However, this is not one of those cases. Please explain how this is meant to be 'shocking'.
It's art, and it's a body. If the figure was shown masturbating then I could see your point but she is disrobing [something we all do every day] and transforming into anotehr figure. Pleae explain how to represent that w/o removing clothes.


In the long range shot it looked to me as if she shed a covering of hair that transformed into a dog.
The Bible, just as an off the top of my head example, uses a change in the color of a garment to symbolize transformation without disrobing.

Just playing devil's advocate, so to speak.
 
2012-08-22 02:58:58 AM  

FizixJunkee: Our daughter is 4 years old and sees me (her mother) naked on a regular basis. She knows that pubic hair is something you get when you start becoming an adult, and that both boys and girls get it (though she's never seen her father's pubic hair, or even his genitalia for that matter). She also sees my breasts on a near daily basis, and she knows that she used to get milk from them. All this, and she's not a bit scarred.

Nudity ≠ profanity


just out of interest why not her dads junk? Is he not around or do you/he not consider it appropriate?

Pardon for prying...
 
2012-08-22 03:07:23 AM  
www.seeing-stars.com
 
2012-08-22 03:23:14 AM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: Genevieve Marie: Representative of the unwashed masses: We all have different ideas of where that is, obviously some parents don't want their kids to see this piece. that's the only reason I think this piece would be better suited to either a different area (ie fewer kids and worshippers overall) or indoors.


I think it's a bad idea to force society to orient around what the most conservative people are ok with their kids seeing.

Away from a church, mosque and school in this case isn't a huge thing to ask... Is it?


If you told the church you were doing it to upset the mosque, and told the mosque you were doing it to upset the church, there's a large part of your problem solved right there.
 
2012-08-22 03:37:14 AM  
I hope these uptight entitled parents remind their 14-year-old boys and girls to not look at themselves in their bedroom mirror as they're dressing in the morning. They might see a Private Part that Leads to Babies Which Can't Be Aborted because Todd Arrrgghh gmmff errrt ghaaak !! 

**pant, pant**

too .... much ... hysteria ... can't ... take it ....
 
2012-08-22 03:51:45 AM  

CreamFilling: It's just as sad that so many people use the human body as a tool to shock others. These are two sides of the same coin.


If a naked human is inherently "shocking" to you, you have pretty big issues.

There is nothing inherently shocking about the naked body. It can be made shocking through context, anyone who thinks differently needs to see a Lemon Party in action. If there were a billboard advertisement for a razor that showed a naked man who has shaved his entire body, I would chuckle, cause that's funny.

There is no reason to be ashamed of the human body. It's a beautiful thing thing to look at.

/now, this "art" piece from the article, it sucks.
 
2012-08-22 03:52:09 AM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: Away from a church,


A lot of churches have statues and paintings of naked or nearly naked people in them. There are plenty of nudes on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, and the Last Judgement on the wall had lots of nudity, until a while after Michelangelo finished it was decided to cover some of them up a bit.
 
2012-08-22 03:57:18 AM  
Parents respond calmly and rationally to pubic art near school depicting nudity.


They have an entire school depicting nudity? I knew my elementary school sucked.

/subtle
//probably been done already
 
2012-08-22 03:58:46 AM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: We all have different ideas of where that is, obviously some parents don't want their kids to see this piece. that's the only reason I think this piece would be better suited to either a different area (ie fewer kids and worshippers overall) or indoors.


I'm not going to self censor or censor someone else just because someone is ashamed of the naked human body. They're the one with the issue to work out, not me.
 
2012-08-22 05:46:28 AM  

Genevieve Marie: I wonder how many of these people walk past Victoria's Secret ads every day and don't think anything of it.
 
Remember folks: women's bodies are highly offensive and inherently pornographic, but only if they're not being used to sell something.


THIS.

SubBass49: [sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 507x960]

I like Banksy's approach...lol


LOLOLOL! ^_^
 
2012-08-22 05:50:52 AM  
I don't watch videos with trailer ads.
 
2012-08-22 06:45:18 AM  
They need to just put statues of mass orgies in front of all the schools.
 
2012-08-22 06:49:06 AM  

WhyteRaven74: Representative of the unwashed masses: Away from a church,

A lot of churches have statues and paintings of naked or nearly naked people in them. There are plenty of nudes on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, and the Last Judgement on the wall had lots of nudity, until a while after Michelangelo finished it was decided to cover some of them up a bit.


Also every catholic church has a guy with just a piece of cloth around the waist. Why not have a woman with just a piece of cloth around the waist?
 
2012-08-22 07:16:00 AM  

squirrelflavoredyogurt: Wasteland: "This is a shortcut from his school. We'll take the long way home."

You're the joke of the neighborhood? Why should you care, if you're feeling good?

Didn't come here for the Supertramp reference, but leaving satisfied.


I did, and it took too long.

/Probably fed the kids kippers for breakfast before school, too.
 
2012-08-22 07:16:52 AM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: Dreamless: CreamFilling: SnarfVader: It's sad so many people are ashamed of the human body.

It's just as sad that so many people use the human body as a tool to shock others. These are two sides of the same coin.

It's sad that so many people are shocked by the human body.

/checkmate?

Overall I'd prefer this type of exhibit to be in a gallery etc. I personally don't care about the piece or its meaning, but since there is nudity involved I'd keep it indoors so parents can make that choice for young kids, right or wrong.

Also I'm assuming the choice of location was to annoy a church and mosque.


So the world I live in should be child-proofed to your personal specifications?
How 'bout: NO.
 
2012-08-22 07:19:13 AM  
It actually makes me feel better hearing this. At least there are still some decent parents out there. I figured they were all gone.
 
2012-08-22 07:21:26 AM  

Ilmarinen: WhyteRaven74: Representative of the unwashed masses: Away from a church,

A lot of churches have statues and paintings of naked or nearly naked people in them. There are plenty of nudes on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel, and the Last Judgement on the wall had lots of nudity, until a while after Michelangelo finished it was decided to cover some of them up a bit.

Also every catholic church has a guy with just a piece of cloth around the waist. Why not have a woman with just a piece of cloth around the waist?


It's usually a leaf or long hair around their waists. No substantive difference. We Catholics like our nudes.
 
2012-08-22 07:21:48 AM  
I know. I'm probably not helping....

Tom Lehrer SFW
 
2012-08-22 07:25:53 AM  

ordinarysteve: Putting the murals near religious buildings is a bit provocative for public space but they seem harmless enough. As others have pointed out, if I had kids I'd rather them see a bit of nudity than some dude getting his blown off during prime time on the tv.


I'm all for shocking the religious. They shock me all the time.
 
2012-08-22 07:30:33 AM  

Renowned transvestite sexologist: It's a beautiful thing thing to look at.


apparently you've never been to Atlanta
 
2012-08-22 07:31:42 AM  

kukukupo: It actually makes me feel better hearing this. At least there are still some decent parents out there. I figured they were all gone.


Really? If they need to child proof the world in order for their children to develop good values, thay must be pretty wretched parents.
 
2012-08-22 07:37:30 AM  
muslims like that pubic hair free stuff. like children
 
2012-08-22 07:43:20 AM  
Definition of PORNOGRAPHY
1: the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement.

If that picture excites you, you are a deviant. If you just see the human body, you are a normal person. Congratulations. (On either achivement)
 
2012-08-22 07:45:33 AM  

jso2897: Representative of the unwashed masses: Dreamless: CreamFilling: SnarfVader: It's sad so many people are ashamed of the human body.

It's just as sad that so many people use the human body as a tool to shock others. These are two sides of the same coin.

It's sad that so many people are shocked by the human body.

/checkmate?

Overall I'd prefer this type of exhibit to be in a gallery etc. I personally don't care about the piece or its meaning, but since there is nudity involved I'd keep it indoors so parents can make that choice for young kids, right or wrong.

Also I'm assuming the choice of location was to annoy a church and mosque.

So the world I live in should be child-proofed to your personal specifications?
How 'bout: NO.


I'm not in any way arguing what qualifies as art or if there should be limits on what an artist should be able to express in their work. But if the intent of the art is to shock, which it certainlyseems to be in this case, then there are better places for it than a mural on a public street.
 
2012-08-22 07:46:41 AM  
Really? You need to be told NOT to paint naked chicks and mens' junk on a publicly viewed wall? Really?
 
2012-08-22 07:46:45 AM  
well i get aroused looking at ethernet cables trying to be forced into USB sockets
 
2012-08-22 08:13:13 AM  

Jon iz teh kewl: well i get aroused looking at ethernet cables trying to be forced into USB sockets


"Okay... All right... Here we go... Aaaand, opening. On one. Next time. Spatial relationships. Okie-doke! Come to papa! Male end, female end..."
 
2012-08-22 08:15:54 AM  

CreamFilling: jso2897: Representative of the unwashed masses: Dreamless: CreamFilling: SnarfVader: It's sad so many people are ashamed of the human body.

It's just as sad that so many people use the human body as a tool to shock others. These are two sides of the same coin.

It's sad that so many people are shocked by the human body.

/checkmate?

Overall I'd prefer this type of exhibit to be in a gallery etc. I personally don't care about the piece or its meaning, but since there is nudity involved I'd keep it indoors so parents can make that choice for young kids, right or wrong.

Also I'm assuming the choice of location was to annoy a church and mosque.

So the world I live in should be child-proofed to your personal specifications?
How 'bout: NO.

I'm not in any way arguing what qualifies as art or if there should be limits on what an artist should be able to express in their work. But if the intent of the art is to shock, which it certainlyseems to be in this case, then there are better places for it than a mural on a public street.


"It seems to be" is code-talk for "my personal feelings are objective facts".
I thought that i already made it clear that I do not acknowledge the objective facuality of your personal whims.
 
2012-08-22 08:22:50 AM  

Genevieve Marie: Bossk'sSegway: Just the other day somebody spray painted on the ground near my house what appeared to be a penis, under it they wrote, "This is not a penis."
 
When art competitions specifically state "no nudity" that should be viewed as a challenge.
 
 
Heh. It was actually an abstract representation of a penis.
 
Who knew, a dadaist tagger.


i.imgur.com

Tagger was either a Magritte fan, or a Foucault fan. Good to see a well educated tagger. I admit, I love shiat like this.
 
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