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(Yahoo)   When trying to get $400,000 in funding for your local high school's blue football field, it's probably best not to offer 5 houses as collateral with only 12 months to pay it off, otherwise this could happen   (sports.yahoo.com) divider line 54
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2012-08-21 05:21:53 PM  
Overwhelming or not, the current support may not be enough to save Reis or Keenist's homes, leaving others to marvel in the sacrifice that a small group of families has made for the greater benefit of the community. football

There, fixed. Someone else can pick a replacement word for "sacrifice"
 
2012-08-21 06:55:31 PM  
"This was all done for the sake of the kids,"

Bullshiat.
 
2012-08-21 07:20:58 PM  
Community? So other schools can come use this field, or any joe off the street can play on it? No I didn't think so. This was the fulfill the vanity of this school and they're getting exactly what they deserve.
 
2012-08-21 07:50:10 PM  
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2012-08-21 07:51:59 PM  
I really hope these families don't lose their homes.

That said, can we now realize that it is farking high school football and stop making such a big deal out of it?

/I'm looking at you college football fans as well.
//If you're madly in love with a college team and you're not even attending that university, you've got issues.
 
2012-08-21 08:08:38 PM  
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West Hills High School. This field is headache inducing.
 
2012-08-21 08:17:18 PM  
And why I called BS...

Just saw on the news that Carthage, TX, just finished instaling the biggest jumbo tron of any HS in the world...

Link

For the record, Carthage has 6,779 at the 2010 census
 
2012-08-21 08:18:04 PM  
Fark them, OK I get it, grass freezes and gets cold. But it's green. I bet they could have got enough Bronies together to make it pink with rainbows. Football, Green field, Baseball infield red clay or brown, outfield green,Basketball, It better be wood by gawd,tennis, those Europeans play on grass, clay and asphalt(concrete painted green and some other colour).
 
2012-08-21 08:24:13 PM  
While it might seem rather foolhardy to have a massive, $400,000 loan offered up with private houses used as collateral, that's precisely what appears to have happened in Oxford.

I would've said "retarded", but foolhardy works.
 
2012-08-21 08:29:23 PM  

Lifeless: While it might seem rather foolhardy to have a massive, $400,000 loan offered up with private houses used as collateral, that's precisely what appears to have happened in Oxford.

I would've said "retarded", but foolhardy works.


yeah, a lot of this. what the fark were they thinking? if they lose their homes, let that be a lesson to everyone on what collateral means.
 
2012-08-21 08:30:07 PM  
 
2012-08-21 09:05:26 PM  

baka-san: And why I called BS...

Just saw on the news that Carthage, TX, just finished instaling the biggest jumbo tron of any HS in the world...

Link

For the record, Carthage has 6,779 at the 2010 census


What's more concerning is that more than 1 high school has a farking jumbotron. If there's one thing I do like about North Carolina (and there are very few things), it's that high school sports are pretty irrelevant.
 
2012-08-21 09:05:48 PM  
Something tells me that those five houses are valued way, way more than $400,000.

Oh wait, this is Michigan.
 
2012-08-21 09:11:23 PM  
people who put up their houses to install blue turf deserve to have them taken
 
2012-08-21 09:11:58 PM  

marius2: /I'm looking at you college football fans as well.


oh shut up
 
2012-08-21 09:12:29 PM  
I bet all of these families that did this are right wing supports who will now be screaming for the government to help them
 
2012-08-21 09:17:50 PM  

Cheesus: What's more concerning is that more than 1 high school has a farking jumbotron. If there's one thing I do like about North Carolina (and there are very few things), it's that high school sports are pretty irrelevant.

 

WTF part of NC are YOU from? Here in Charlotte, they have three local TV recap shows on Friday nights for football, one is an hour long. Time Warner Cable has a state wide recap show at the same time. They just had a state wide vote to try to keep the Catholic schools who kick the shiat out of the ghetto schools in every sport except basketball out of the public school leagues. They televise the boys and girls state basketball tournaments, which is odd since nobody in Carolina gives a rat fark about basketball.

But nobody in the state takes high school sports seriously.
 
2012-08-21 09:28:31 PM  
The article says that the community voted on a bond to fund this and the community voted against the bond. Meaning, the community didn't want this (or just didn't want to pay for it).

So, people decided to privately fund this and five families put their houses up as collateral. As the article says, "In the 12 months since the field became operational, the school has only raised $100,000, leaving the entire community in a mad scramble to try and drum up $300,000 in a matter of days to save the houses of Keenist and four other families."

It would definitely suck for the families to lose their homes, but it sounds like they have no body to blame but themselves. The community said no to funding the turf, but now they are being guilted into paying for it anyhow so the 5 families don't lose their homes.
 
2012-08-21 09:35:28 PM  

Roukzeptea23: The article says that the community voted on a bond to fund this and the community voted against the bond. Meaning, the community didn't want this (or just didn't want to pay for it).

So, people decided to privately fund this and five families put their houses up as collateral. As the article says, "In the 12 months since the field became operational, the school has only raised $100,000, leaving the entire community in a mad scramble to try and drum up $300,000 in a matter of days to save the houses of Keenist and four other families."

It would definitely suck for the families to lose their homes, but it sounds like they have no body to blame but themselves. The community said no to funding the turf, but now they are being guilted into paying for it anyhow so the 5 families don't lose their homes.


Pretty much. I kinda hope they do lose their houses.
 
2012-08-21 09:41:36 PM  
first off who the fark takes out that big of a loan in terms that require it to be paid off in 12 months?

secondly what high school needs a $400,000 Astro type turf playing surface. Too good to play on Grass?

Seriously if the bond issue failed what made the people think they could raise the money to pay off the loan in 12 months time?
 
2012-08-21 09:49:34 PM  

Grunt2006: Cheesus: What's more concerning is that more than 1 high school has a farking jumbotron. If there's one thing I do like about North Carolina (and there are very few things), it's that high school sports are pretty irrelevant. 

WTF part of NC are YOU from? Here in Charlotte, they have three local TV recap shows on Friday nights for football, one is an hour long. Time Warner Cable has a state wide recap show at the same time. They just had a state wide vote to try to keep the Catholic schools who kick the shiat out of the ghetto schools in every sport except basketball out of the public school leagues. They televise the boys and girls state basketball tournaments, which is odd since nobody in Carolina gives a rat fark about basketball.

But nobody in the state takes high school sports seriously.


I used to live in the Charlotte market, so I'm familiar with the shows. Delano Little still gets on my damn nerves. Those always struck me as more about 'OMG MOM IM ON THE TV' then really covering the games, but meh. How many people do you know in NC that really care? In other states I've been to, especially Texas, you have the entire town/county talking about the high school team non-stop. Here it seems to get a passing mention. Even when my alma mater became a semi-powerhouse, it never seemed like a huge deal.
 
2012-08-21 09:58:55 PM  

grimlock1972: what made the people think they could raise the money to pay off the loan in 12 months time?


Well, they have a good sob story to lean on now.

The community needs to pony up the cash or the school sportsball program won't have the arena equivalent of spinning rims and an R-Type decal? Eh, too bad.

The community needs to pony up the cash or several families will be thrown out on the street by mean old Mr. Potter at the bank! O noes, we must save them!
 
2012-08-21 10:09:46 PM  

Foxxinnia: Something tells me that those five houses are valued way, way more than $400,000.

Oh wait, this is Michigan.


It's Oxford. The school district probably couldn't afford it straight up only because the town is full of Teabaggers who wouldn't approve a bond issue.
 
2012-08-21 10:31:03 PM  

baka-san: "This was all done for the sake of the kids,"

Bullshiat.


I just dropped by to echo the same comment. This was done to stroke the egos of a very small group of asshat parents. Fark 'em. Let them live in the streets. And shame on anyone involved in this project.
 
2012-08-21 10:50:31 PM  

wxboy: It's Oxford. The school district probably couldn't afford it straight up only because the town is full of Teabaggers who wouldn't approve a bond issue.


and they were right
 
2012-08-21 10:51:43 PM  

ThisIsntMe: Fark them, OK I get it, grass freezes and gets cold. But it's green. I bet they could have got enough Bronies together to make it pink with rainbows. Football, Green field, Baseball infield red clay or brown, outfield green,Basketball, It better be wood by gawd,tennis, those Europeans play on grass, clay and asphalt(concrete painted green and some other colour).


You know, I'm just as upset as you over this predicament, but I don't think Bronies are to blame for this.
 
2012-08-21 10:55:40 PM  

wxboy: It's Oxford. The school district probably couldn't afford it straight up only because the town is full of Teabaggers who wouldn't approve a bond issue.

ongbok: I bet all of these families that did this are right wing supports who will now be screaming for the government to help them


Why can't you keep this shiat in the appropriate tab?

Also:

FTA: Almost precisely a year ago, Prep Rally brought you the bizarre tale of Oxford (Mich.) High and the school's blue FieldTurf, which can not legally be referred to as "blue turf" because of a strict copyright held by Boise State.

Caption on the next line: Oxford Michigan's blue turf field
 
2012-08-21 11:01:25 PM  

skrame: Caption on the next line: Oxford Michigan's blue turf field


Press can refer to it however they want. Pretty sure the school can't use it in promotional materials / advertising though
 
2012-08-21 11:39:43 PM  

baka-san: "This was all done for the sake of the kids,"

Bullshiat.


just like all other things "done for the kids"
 
2012-08-21 11:58:54 PM  

rjakobi: ThisIsntMe: Fark them, OK I get it, grass freezes and gets cold. But it's green. I bet they could have got enough Bronies together to make it pink with rainbows. Football, Green field, Baseball infield red clay or brown, outfield green,Basketball, It better be wood by gawd,tennis, those Europeans play on grass, clay and asphalt(concrete painted green and some other colour).

You know, I'm just as upset as you over this predicament, but I don't think Bronies are to blame for this.


Sry, I was just all caught up in the whole Kickstart thing and figured crowdsourcing would have worked better with Pink and Ponies instead of 5 people and Blue Turf.
 
2012-08-22 12:30:38 AM  
Almost precisely a year ago, Prep Rally brought you the bizarre tale of Oxford (Mich.) High and the school's blue FieldTurf, which can not legally be referred to as "blue turf" because of a strict copyright held by Boise State.

This is why we can't have nice things.
 
2012-08-22 01:13:34 AM  

NutWrench: Overwhelming or not, the current support may not be enough to save Reis or Keenist's homes, leaving others to marvel in the sacrifice football to the groin that a small group of families has made taken for the greater benefit of the community football.

There, fixed. Someone else can pick a replacement word for "sacrifice"


It works on so many levels.
 
2012-08-22 02:08:05 AM  
Imagine how many computers/lab equipment/books/art supplies/costumes that $400,000 could have bought...
 
2012-08-22 03:19:05 AM  
Heres an idea... raise the money FIRST then.... hey wait. Boise State has a "strict copyright" on the phrase "Blue turf". You can copyright descriptions of nouns now?

So much to make your head hurt in this article, I cant properly focus.
 
2012-08-22 03:20:11 AM  

harm dealer: Imagine how many computers/lab equipment/books/art supplies/costumes that $400,000 could have bought...


Yeah, cause YOUR pansy children are better than these people's jocks, right?

/ I think you might be assuming that these things were not also purchased.
 
2012-08-22 03:22:25 AM  

baka-san: And why I called BS...

Just saw on the news that Carthage, TX, just finished instaling the biggest jumbo tron of any HS in the world...

Link

For the record, Carthage has 6,779 at the 2010 census


The article clearly shows that it pays for itself, so.... Im not sure who is paying 35K a year to advertise on it in a community that size though.
 
2012-08-22 05:21:34 AM  

harm dealer: Imagine how many computers/lab equipment/books/art supplies/costumes that $400,000 could have bought...


A few families putting their houses up as collateral for a loan to fund basic school needs would be much more newsworthy. I guess talking about up to date textbooks isn't sexy like the football team's Blue Turf™.
 
2012-08-22 06:33:40 AM  
This is why the world is handing us our asses in math and science
 
2012-08-22 07:49:41 AM  

groppet: This is why the world is handing us our asses in math and science


It's a strong example.

This is a very, very strange America these days.

/Also, blue football fields make me retch for some reason. I can't even watch a Boise State home game. My brain struggles to see GREEN. Which is what football field colors SHOULD be.
//No sympathy for these dumbasses.
 
2012-08-22 08:00:54 AM  

Cheesus: baka-san: And why I called BS...

Just saw on the news that Carthage, TX, just finished instaling the biggest jumbo tron of any HS in the world...

Link

For the record, Carthage has 6,779 at the 2010 census

What's more concerning is that more than 1 high school has a farking jumbotron. If there's one thing I do like about North Carolina (and there are very few things), it's that high school sports are pretty irrelevant.


it's nice that a state that is constantly reminding us how Obama is wasting people's money by trying to provide health to everyone finds that spending money (through public means, no less) on jumbotrons for high school football teams is a necessity.

At least investing in artificial turf has some benefits like lower maintenance. If you need a jumbotron to get your supposedly rabid local home-town fan-base excited (who has won the state championship 3 years running), maybe you need a better class of cheerleader (or a lower class of depressants).
 
2012-08-22 09:36:28 AM  
This is actually kind of brilliant. My guess is that the five families have a handshake agreement to pay however much they can't raise and that they are using this storyline of losing their homes to squeeze as much money as possible from the community in the 11th hour.

Okay, brilliant or rather smarmy.
 
2012-08-22 09:49:33 AM  
"Hey taxpayers, we know Detroit is struggling, but we want you to pay $400k for this great new blue field for our high school football team."

a municipal bond earmarked to pay for the new turf was rejected by local voters.

"F*ck it, we're doing it anyway."

"Please donate to help pay for this blue field you did't want."

In the 12 months since the field became operational, the school has only raised $100,000, leaving the entire community in a mad scramble to try and drum up $300,000 in a matter of days

"THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE OUR HOMES!"
 
2012-08-22 10:03:49 AM  

cyberwolf: This is actually kind of brilliant. My guess is that the five families have a handshake agreement to pay however much they can't raise and that they are using this storyline of losing their homes to squeeze as much money as possible from the community in the 11th hour.

Okay, brilliant or rather smarmy.


it's not so much a handshake agreement, but a necessity if they ever planned to keep their homes. i've actually done this sort of fund raising before when the money was needed right then and there wasn't time to see how the donation drive went. though not for 400K, and without the bullshiat media story, and i didn't put up a house as collateral.
 
2012-08-22 10:12:00 AM  

grimlock1972: first off who the fark takes out that big of a loan in terms that require it to be paid off in 12 months?

secondly what high school needs a $400,000 Astro type turf playing surface. Too good to play on Grass?

Seriously if the bond issue failed what made the people think they could raise the money to pay off the loan in 12 months time?


I can understand astro type turf on multipurpose fields, especially in places where it starts getting cold early in the fall.

Our town (25,000ish) has two high schools, but one stadium. It hosts 6 high school games a week from September to November, plus regional playoffs, plus youth soccer and football, plus band competitions, plus track and field. When it was grass, it was terrible to play on by the end of September.
 
2012-08-22 10:30:24 AM  

Broktun: I can understand astro type turf on multipurpose fields, especially in places where it starts getting cold early in the fall.


Plus more maintenance is required on grass fields, so it saves you money annually to go with field turf.
 
2012-08-22 11:03:44 AM  
There are three retards involved in this transaction - in descending order:
1) the people who put their houses up for collateral - just like Vegas you never gamble with something you aren't willing to lose. They put their homes at risk for an investment that produces no income and can't be re-sold....so they shouldn't be surprised to lose it.
2) the school - yeah I know they were getting something for free but they are still a part of this transaction and someone at the school should have realized how disasterous this would be if and when it failed, and shouls have had the balls to say "you know what - grass is just fine thanks".
3) the bank - just because there's collateral doesn't mean that the loan default won't cost them something in the time and effort and everything else that is getting blown up in this mess. Even if they break even financially they are still going to take a huge hit on reputation. The investment was a terrible risk which is precisely what banks are not supposed to do.
 
2012-08-22 11:18:18 AM  

BigJake: skrame: Caption on the next line: Oxford Michigan's blue turf field

Press can refer to it however they want. Pretty sure the school can't use it in promotional materials / advertising though


Ah, thanks. I do think it's a silly thing to be allowed to copyright.
 
2012-08-22 11:19:04 AM  

IAmRight: Broktun: I can understand astro type turf on multipurpose fields, especially in places where it starts getting cold early in the fall.

Plus more maintenance is required on grass fields, so it saves you money annually to go with field turf.


my old high school (which isn't far from the one in TFA) just last year completed a major overhaul of all its athletic fields. That included converting the football field to artificial turf. Of course, people didn't have to mortgage their houses to pay for it. It was part of a larger bond issue for building and technology upgrades.
 
2012-08-22 11:24:23 AM  

Baryogenesis: I guess talking about up to date textbooks isn't sexy like the football team's Blue Turf™.


LOL hey gramps that's not as big a deal as it was in the 40s, or the 70s, or even the 90s.
 
2012-08-22 11:47:56 AM  

wxboy: IAmRight: Broktun: I can understand astro type turf on multipurpose fields, especially in places where it starts getting cold early in the fall.

Plus more maintenance is required on grass fields, so it saves you money annually to go with field turf.

my old high school (which isn't far from the one in TFA) just last year completed a major overhaul of all its athletic fields. That included converting the football field to artificial turf. Of course, people didn't have to mortgage their houses to pay for it. It was part of a larger bond issue for building and technology upgrades.


Hell, my old HS had turf installed back before I went to HS in '96. The field was also used by the other two city high schools and they played soccer, football, and had marching band events on it, at least, from what I remember. It's funny when people act like getting turf is some ridiculous newfangled thing that isn't cost-effective in the long run.

/and this was in Washington, where HS football isn't a big deal
//and our school won like 6 games in the four years I went there
 
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