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(Washington Post)   How confident is Paul Ryan of victory this November? He's still running to keep his House seat   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 83
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2012-08-21 08:41:54 PM
That was one thing I respected Dole a lot for. Made him seem a lot more legitimate.

There should be a rule; you're only allowed to run for one seat at a time.
 
2012-08-21 08:41:57 PM
I am no fan of the Eddie Haskel of politics, but this is truly no big whoop. It isn't as if he can take himself off the ballot at this point, although it's odd that they are going ahead with the media buy for his commercials.
 
2012-08-21 08:43:23 PM

CommieTaoist: Eh, not a big deal. Everyone in the the House stands for elections every two years making the conflict unavoidable whereas senators can often miss it. The last House member to run for VP also campaigned for her own seat (and lost). Federal law states that you can campaign for two offices but only hold one at a time, so no problems there.

Of all the things to be pissed off with (or make fun of) Ryan about, this isn't one of them.


Yes it is.
 
2012-08-21 08:44:22 PM

NickelP: Do you guys quit your jobs if you get a chance to interview for a new one?

If the Wisconsin voters are ok voting for him knowing if he wins both seats its new election time then let them.

And for the dems if he wins both you get a do over. This is good for you.


I heard that extra elections in WI are a huge waste of taxpayer money and a subversion of the democratic process.
 
2012-08-21 08:46:03 PM

spongeboob: Sgt Otter: John Kerry and John McCain did not resign from the Senate during their Presidential runs. Okay, not the greatest examples, but you get the point.

Bob Dole did.


Bob Dole was a great man.
 
2012-08-21 08:46:48 PM

NickelP: Do you guys quit your jobs if you get a chance to interview for a new one?

.


No but my job doesn't pay while I take months to go on interviews.
 
2012-08-21 08:49:03 PM

Ed Finnerty: Why can't Paul Ryan stop living off the taxpayer's dime?

GET A JOB, YOU BUM!


The war is over, Mr. Lebowski! The bums lost! The bums will always lose!!
 
2012-08-21 08:52:23 PM

MFAWG: spongeboob: Sgt Otter: John Kerry and John McCain did not resign from the Senate during their Presidential runs. Okay, not the greatest examples, but you get the point.

Bob Dole did.

Bob Dole was a great man.


Yes but he was considered a RINO even then. Rush said 'do we really want to support someone just because it is his TURN' Did Rush ever say that about anyone this year?
 
2012-08-21 09:10:48 PM
Biden did it. So when are the fark liberals going to talk about actual issues?
 
2012-08-21 09:15:29 PM
Remember when Obama resigned his seat to run for president. Me neither.
 
2012-08-21 09:20:07 PM
Ryan is probably hoping Romney will win so that Governor Walker can pick the most hideously vile p.o.s. but unelectable fascist he could find (or actually, the KOCH BROTHERS will find) to fill the seat.

It would be like a DOUBLE win for Evil.
 
2012-08-21 09:22:25 PM

TimonC346: What shocks me more is that no one seems to jump ship in the Republican party, no matter what. These guys could come out for removal of all American genitals and Republican voters would be cool with it.


Republican voters would cheer for an alien invasion in the belief that they would be assigned to help pick out the meatiest humans for harvesting.
 
2012-08-21 09:27:24 PM

MyRandomName: Biden did it. So when are the fark liberals going to talk about actual issues?


A women's reproductive rights is a very fundamental issue. What issue is bigger than that?
 
2012-08-21 09:29:36 PM

skipjack: Remember when Obama resigned his seat to run for president. Me neither.


They Ryan running for two thing is meaningless. It has no bearing and is a silly Liberal talking point. However, Obama was only halfway through his term so the comparison is not quite fair.
 
2012-08-21 09:32:15 PM

MyRandomName: Biden did it. So when are the fark liberals going to talk about actual issues?


What issues would you like to discuss?
 
2012-08-21 09:42:28 PM

mrshowrules: skipjack: Remember when Obama resigned his seat to run for president. Me neither.

They Ryan running for two thing is meaningless. It has no bearing and is a silly Liberal talking point. However, Obama was only halfway through his term so the comparison is not quite fair.


Ah the ole' "it's different when we do it" deflection.

If a candidate doesn't resign from their current government position to run (the only exception being an incumbent President) is chicken shiat IMHO. McCain, Obama and Biden should have all resigned as should Ryan. Congresscriters don't often resign when running, so it's become the norm, but if you truly think you can win the Presidency, step up. To assail Ryan, while giving a pass to Obama....well..welcome to being a partisan hack.
 
2012-08-21 09:45:39 PM

Forbidden Doughnut: What would he do for a living if he wasn't on the Government's dime? I guess he'd have to get bootstrappy...


No, he would write(eg, a publisher would pay someone to write) a book, do faux news, lecture, and then follow up "toddlers and tiras" tonight on TLC!
 
2012-08-21 09:47:24 PM

TimonC346: These guys could come out for removal of all American genitals and Republican voters would be cool with it.


"I'm not usin' mine anyway, plus it would keep those CITY HOOERS from crankin' out babies that I end up payin' for."
 
2012-08-21 09:58:30 PM

skipjack: mrshowrules: skipjack: Remember when Obama resigned his seat to run for president. Me neither.

They Ryan running for two thing is meaningless. It has no bearing and is a silly Liberal talking point. However, Obama was only halfway through his term so the comparison is not quite fair.

Ah the ole' "it's different when we do it" deflection.

If a candidate doesn't resign from their current government position to run (the only exception being an incumbent President) is chicken shiat IMHO. McCain, Obama and Biden should have all resigned as should Ryan. Congresscriters don't often resign when running, so it's become the norm, but if you truly think you can win the Presidency, step up. To assail Ryan, while giving a pass to Obama....well..welcome to being a partisan hack.


I think there are bigger problems to focus on
 
2012-08-21 10:01:09 PM
Meh, so what.
 
2012-08-21 10:15:32 PM
Folks, it's not like it's ancient history;

After ending his second presidential bid in January 2008, Biden focused instead on running for a seventh Senate term against Republican Christine O'Donnell. In late August 2008, he was picked by Obama to be his running mate. Biden nevertheless continued to run for Senate re-election as well as Vice President,[104] as permitted by Delaware state law.[46] On November 4, 2008, Biden was re-elected as senator, in addition to winning the vice presidency.[105]

Having won both races, Biden made a point of holding off his resignation from the Senate so that he could be sworn in for his seventh term on January 6, 2009.[106] He became the youngest senator ever to be sworn in for a seventh full term, and said, "In all my life, the greatest honor bestowed upon me has been serving the people of Delaware as their United States senator."[106] Biden cast his last Senate vote on January 15, supporting the release of the second $350 billion for the Troubled Asset Relief Program.[107] Biden resigned from the Senate later that day; in emotional farewell remarks on the Senate floor, where he had spent most of his adult life, Biden said, "Every good thing I have seen happen here, every bold step taken in the 36-plus years I have been here, came not from the application of pressure by interest groups, but through the maturation of personal relationships."[108]

Delaware's Democratic governor, Ruth Ann Minner, announced on November 24, 2008, that she would appoint Biden's longtime senior adviser Ted Kaufman to succeed Biden in the Senate.[109] Kaufman said he would only serve two years, until Delaware's special senate election in 2010.[109] Biden's son Beau ruled himself out of the 2008 selection process due to his impending tour in Iraq with the Delaware Army National Guard.[110] He was a possible candidate for the 2010 special election, but in early 2010 said he would not run for the seat.[111]


By the time he was mentioned for VEEP. much less nominated, it was too late to get off the ballot. So it goes. Ryan will lose as second in the BIG SHOW, but will be re-elected as rep in Hicksville WI
 
2012-08-21 10:24:02 PM
Also, Biden did not actively campaign for his Senate seat after his VP nomination. You can guess why he won.
 
2012-08-21 11:09:23 PM
He can run for two offices at once? Only a slimy professional politician would take advantage of such a loophole.
 
2012-08-22 01:36:06 AM
They don't want the presidency.... they want to biatch about it.
 
2012-08-22 02:04:06 AM

JerseyTim: Also, Joe Biden has to bring this up at the debate.

Here, I'll even write the line for him. One of you Internet operatives pass this up the organizational chart to Jim Messina or someone. When confronted with a question on the economy, Biden should say this following:

"The economy has gotten better, but we believe it can be even stronger. However, Barack Obama can not do it alone. The Republican party in Congress has done nothing but obstruct since the day the took over the majority. That's why it's important for voters to not just vote to reelect President Obama, but to also vote for representatives who are going to help him bring jobs back to the country, people like Rob Zerban running in Wisconsin's 1st district."


You realize the minute he says that, the right will call it "THE GAFFE TO END ALL GAFFES!" "THIS IS BIDEN'S POTATOE MOMENT!" "WHO AM I? WHY AM I HERE? LOCK BOX! THIS BLOWS THOSE DEBATE BLUNDERS AWAY!"
 
2012-08-22 02:08:21 AM
He was already on the ballot when he was asked to be VP candidate. He can't legally be removed anymore. The article even says this. Why is this even an article?
 
2012-08-22 02:33:08 AM

IlGreven: JerseyTim: Also, Joe Biden has to bring this up at the debate.

Here, I'll even write the line for him. One of you Internet operatives pass this up the organizational chart to Jim Messina or someone. When confronted with a question on the economy, Biden should say this following:

"The economy has gotten better, but we believe it can be even stronger. However, Barack Obama can not do it alone. The Republican party in Congress has done nothing but obstruct since the day the took over the majority. That's why it's important for voters to not just vote to reelect President Obama, but to also vote for representatives who are going to help him bring jobs back to the country, people like Rob Zerban running in Wisconsin's 1st district."

You realize the minute he says that, the right will call it "THE GAFFE TO END ALL GAFFES!" "THIS IS BIDEN'S POTATOE MOMENT!" "WHO AM I? WHY AM I HERE? LOCK BOX! THIS BLOWS THOSE DEBATE BLUNDERS AWAY!"


You realize the right will find something, anything, even if they have to fabricate it from raw protons, neutrons, and electrons, with which to do that.

Just as they'll pick something, anything, even if they have to hire in Hollywood script doctors to invent it, to be Ryan's sparkling-through-the-screen wink moment.
 
2012-08-22 03:29:52 AM

impaler: CommieTaoist: Eh, not a big deal. Everyone in the the House stands for elections every two years making the conflict unavoidable whereas senators can often miss it. The last House member to run for VP also campaigned for her own seat (and lost). Federal law states that you can campaign for two offices but only hold one at a time, so no problems there.

Of all the things to be pissed off with (or make fun of) Ryan about, this isn't one of them.

Yep.


Eshman: I'd like to point out to all the conservatards in audience that in this thread liberals are the first to point out what a non-issue this is, which is the exact opposite of what our conservatard friends are wont to do.


MyRandomName: Biden did it. So when are the fark liberals going to talk about actual issues?


How can anyone see this, and not deny that MyRandomName is a threadshiatter? I mean really.
 
2012-08-22 03:49:35 AM

DeaH: I am no fan of the Eddie Haskel of politics, but this is truly no big whoop. It isn't as if he can take himself off the ballot at this point, although it's odd that they are going ahead with the media buy for his commercials.


Eddie Munster. Eddie Haskel is someone else.
 
2012-08-22 07:50:35 AM
Is it legal to do? Yes? Then who the fark cares?
 
2012-08-22 08:09:26 AM

Karac: Sgt Otter: John Kerry and John McCain did not resign from the Senate during their Presidential runs. Okay, not the greatest examples, but you get the point.

John Kerr was re-elected to the senate in 2002, and was not up for re-election in 2004. So that one not only isn't the greatest example, it isn't a farking example at all.

 

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2012-08-22 09:47:11 AM

Gosling: Back in 2010, I compiled an overview of the aftermaths of losing VP candidates.

Unless your name is Franklin Delano Roosevelt, it is not pretty.


Interesting read, especially the parts where the 1924 and 1928 guys are timelords or something.

/is this where I say your blog sucks?
//never quite sure when to use that one
 
2012-08-22 02:01:35 PM

Kevin72: DeaH: I am no fan of the Eddie Haskel of politics, but this is truly no big whoop. It isn't as if he can take himself off the ballot at this point, although it's odd that they are going ahead with the media buy for his commercials.

Eddie Munster. Eddie Haskel is someone else.


No, I mean the boot-licking, two-faced smarmball. Eddie Munster may be who Ryan looks like. Eddie Haskel is who he is.
 
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