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(CNN)   GOP plans on adding a Constitutional amendment banning all abortion to its national platform at their convention. At least there's no war on women   (politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com) divider line 374
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2012-08-21 08:29:45 AM
Last time they nominated Palin, this time Ryan, now the Akin thing and then this.

The GOP: Why don't they just self-immolate?

I can't even take them seriously even though I don't have any passion for their opposition at all.
 
2012-08-21 08:33:58 AM
They really don't want any moderates to vote for them anymore, do they?
 
2012-08-21 08:34:36 AM
Yet:

wonkette.com
 
2012-08-21 08:35:13 AM
I hope they do. Maybe it will cause a backlash and finally put an end to this debate resulting in some more clear legislation protecting abortion rights, rather than a rather vague SCOTUS ruling based off of patient / doctor privacy.
 
2012-08-21 08:47:01 AM
We're for state's rights. Except when we're not.
 
2012-08-21 08:51:15 AM
I can't get any fundie right wingers to explain why THIS is what they focus their energy on while screaming that Obama hasn't done anything about jobs!
 
2012-08-21 08:55:11 AM
goo.gl
 
2012-08-21 08:55:33 AM

SoxSweepAgain: Why don't they just self-immolate?


Every time the GOP has been on the brink of death, they rise again like Jason Voorees, slashing their way through the political campground, disemboweling teenagers.
 
2012-08-21 08:59:33 AM

SecretAgentWoman: I can't get any fundie right wingers to explain why THIS is what they focus their energy on while screaming that Obama hasn't done anything about jobs!


It's because they've solved all other problems facing America
 
2012-08-21 09:00:25 AM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: SoxSweepAgain: Why don't they just self-immolate?

Every time the GOP has been on the brink of death, they rise again like Jason Voorees, slashing their way through the political campground, disemboweling teenagers.


So, if all the non-GOP people don't split up, and don't get involved in a sex scene, we'll all make it through okay?
 
2012-08-21 09:03:15 AM
Impeccable timing, GOP.
 
2012-08-21 09:06:41 AM
Tony Perkins, the president of the Family Research Council, chided McCain and said it would be "political suicide" for him to add language about exceptions for rape or incest in the abortion platform.

And there is Mr. Perkins again. Chided? Really? Yesterday he threatened to take out Scott Brown for saying Akin should resign.

Perkins sure seems violently insistent that the rights of rapists and those that commit incest should be protected. Their rights supersede those of a victim.

Perkins represents a Christian organization, right? So the "Family Research" Council is pro rape, pro sexual violence and pro forcible pregnancy.
 
2012-08-21 09:07:43 AM
Who gives a shiat about farking abortion with all the real problems we have in this country? I don't give a shiat if some whore wants to flush her baby down the toilet and neither do the republicans. They're just using this as a wedge issue to get people to vote against their economic interests.
 
2012-08-21 09:09:03 AM

SoxSweepAgain: The GOP: Why don't they just self-immolate?


I believe this is actually what that would look like.
 
2012-08-21 09:10:04 AM
[doooeet]

Cards on the table time.

Stakes couldn't be simpler.

Democrats want to bring America forward into a new century where reproductive rights are not in question and all citizens share in the equality under the law promised by the Constitution.

Republicans want to take America back to the bad ole days of back alley abortions, gays in closets and minorities in their place.

Forward to a real future or back to a dim, dark past. 

Choose well, America.

Be Well.
 
2012-08-21 09:10:22 AM
GOP: Elect us because fark the Constitution. Except the 2nd Amendment, we like that one. People die from that one.
 
2012-08-21 09:12:06 AM
"Adding", subby? It's basically the same position as in previous elections, and in each case the platform went precisely nowhere, even when Chimpy McHitlerburton and his minion Li'l Sauron were elected.

Platforms are the strongly-worded-letters of our political parties. They shuffle the words around a bit every four years to convince the base they're going to do something.
 
2012-08-21 09:17:10 AM

quatchi: [doooeet]

Cards on the table time.

Stakes couldn't be simpler.

Democrats want to bring America forward into a new century where reproductive rights are not in question and all citizens share in the equality under the law promised by the Constitution.

Republicans want to take America back to the bad ole days of back alley abortions, gays in closets and minorities in their place.

Forward to a real future or back to a dim, dark past. 

Choose well, America.

Be Well.



This is what the democrats believe about the republicans. No wonder we are at war with each other.
 
2012-08-21 09:20:13 AM
GOP: "How do we get the support of the people we are screwing over financially?"
GOP Shill: "Social issues, like gay marriage & abortion"
GOP: "But people are starting to accept gays."
GOP Shill: "All out war on abortion."
GOP: "Well, OK then.'
 
2012-08-21 09:30:00 AM

EnviroDude: quatchi: [doooeet]

Cards on the table time.

Stakes couldn't be simpler.

Democrats want to bring America forward into a new century where reproductive rights are not in question and all citizens share in the equality under the law promised by the Constitution.

Republicans want to take America back to the bad ole days of back alley abortions, gays in closets and minorities in their place.

Forward to a real future or back to a dim, dark past. 

Choose well, America.

Be Well.


This is what the democrats believe about the republicans. No wonder we are at war with each other.


Just as in a court, the jury can only deliberate on the evidence presented.

Maybe instead of continually knocking on Democrats here you should be writing to Mr. Perkins, and his henchman Bryan Fischer, some letters.
 
2012-08-21 09:37:22 AM

EnviroDude: This is what the democrats believe about the republicans. No wonder we are at war with each other.


Which part of that is incorrect?
 
2012-08-21 09:41:38 AM

Diogenes: EnviroDude: quatchi: [doooeet]

Cards on the table time.

Stakes couldn't be simpler.

Democrats want to bring America forward into a new century where reproductive rights are not in question and all citizens share in the equality under the law promised by the Constitution.

Republicans want to take America back to the bad ole days of back alley abortions, gays in closets and minorities in their place.

Forward to a real future or back to a dim, dark past.

Choose well, America.

Be Well.


This is what the democrats believe about the republicans. No wonder we are at war with each other.

Just as in a court, the jury can only deliberate on the evidence presented.

Maybe instead of continually knocking on Democrats here you should be writing to Mr. Perkins, and his henchman Bryan Fischer, some letters.




You guys are both silly, not only for using double spacing in your comments, but believing the abortion topic is debatable. You have one part of the population who believes live begins at conception. You have another who believes it begins at birth. No side is ever going to give way. This election is going to be argued on an severely divided topic, one that is recycled every presidential election year.
The mere fact the Republicans are going full retard on abortion indicates they have no plans to solve the problems of the middle and lower classes. The difference this year, is the rich are going to get demoted by the super-rich.
 
2012-08-21 09:42:45 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: Impeccable timing, GOP.


and by Impeccable, I mean COMPLETELY PECCABLE!
 
2012-08-21 09:43:21 AM

Mugato: Who gives a shiat about farking abortion with all the real problems we have in this country? ... They're just using this as a wedge issue to get people to vote against their economic interests.


I think you've just answered your own question.
 
2012-08-21 09:43:53 AM
So basically any Republicans calling on Akin to bow out of the race are just mad at him for articulating the party's positions.
 
2012-08-21 09:49:17 AM

EnviroDude: quatchi: [doooeet]

Cards on the table time.

Stakes couldn't be simpler.

Democrats want to bring America forward into a new century where reproductive rights are not in question and all citizens share in the equality under the law promised by the Constitution.

Republicans want to take America back to the bad ole days of back alley abortions, gays in closets and minorities in their place.

Forward to a real future or back to a dim, dark past. 

Choose well, America.

Be Well.


This is what the democrats believe about the republicans. No wonder we are at war with each other.


You know what would be nice? Two (or more!) strong, rational political parties who both genuinely want what's best for the country, and are willing to discuss and compromise to advance the country as a whole, a media which rigorously questions and fact-checks their statements, and a populace which demands accountability and backs it up by voting at every opportunity.
 
2012-08-21 09:49:52 AM
Republicans: We are focused on the economy!

GOP Platform:

1.abortion
2. birth control
3. Jesus in schools
4. gay marriage
5. Bomb Iran
 
2012-08-21 09:50:41 AM

Bonkthat_Again: Diogenes: EnviroDude: quatchi: [doooeet]

Cards on the table time.

Stakes couldn't be simpler.

Democrats want to bring America forward into a new century where reproductive rights are not in question and all citizens share in the equality under the law promised by the Constitution.

Republicans want to take America back to the bad ole days of back alley abortions, gays in closets and minorities in their place.

Forward to a real future or back to a dim, dark past.

Choose well, America.

Be Well.


This is what the democrats believe about the republicans. No wonder we are at war with each other.

Just as in a court, the jury can only deliberate on the evidence presented.

Maybe instead of continually knocking on Democrats here you should be writing to Mr. Perkins, and his henchman Bryan Fischer, some letters.



You guys are both silly, not only for using double spacing in your comments, but believing the abortion topic is debatable. You have one part of the population who believes live begins at conception. You have another who believes it begins at birth. No side is ever going to give way. This election is going to be argued on an severely divided topic, one that is recycled every presidential election year.
The mere fact the Republicans are going full retard on abortion indicates they have no plans to solve the problems of the middle and lower classes. The difference this year, is the rich are going to get demoted by the super-rich.


Thanks for the input I guess. But all I was saying is don't blame Democrats for the GOP's image problems.
 
2012-08-21 09:55:06 AM
The Democrats are far from perfect, and at times, have been complete spineless pussies....but how anyone can vote for the GOP over them is beyond me. There is nothing remotely redeemable about the Republican platform today, and there won't be for a long, long time, until they dump the Christofascists that have hijacked it.
 
2012-08-21 09:56:47 AM

Diogenes: But all I was saying is don't blame Democrats for the GOP's image problems.


But that's how it's done. One side blames the other. Our whole political system is based on pitting one group of people against another. It's rather disgusting.
In football, you either root for one team or another.
We need our politics to be less like football and more like Nascar. There are 43 competitors every week as opposed to 2.
 
2012-08-21 10:11:29 AM

EnviroDude: quatchi: [doooeet]

Cards on the table time.

Stakes couldn't be simpler.

Democrats want to bring America forward into a new century where reproductive rights are not in question and all citizens share in the equality under the law promised by the Constitution.

Republicans want to take America back to the bad ole days of back alley abortions, gays in closets and minorities in their place.

Forward to a real future or back to a dim, dark past. 

Choose well, America.

Be Well.


This is what the democrats believe about the republicans. No wonder we are at war with each other.


ok, then regale us with at least a dozen examples of the official GOP party, its leaders, or its top tier politicos, acting in a way that obviously refutes that charge. You have 1 hour. time starts now.
 
2012-08-21 10:18:12 AM

RexTalionis: We're for state's rights. Except when we're not.


Well to be fair, states have to ratify the amendment, so they get their say. I'm more curious why Republicans are so eager to amend their second-favorite "sacred" document.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-08-21 10:20:18 AM

EnviroDude: quatchi: [doooeet]

Cards on the table time.

Stakes couldn't be simpler.

Democrats want to bring America forward into a new century where reproductive rights are not in question and all citizens share in the equality under the law promised by the Constitution.

Republicans want to take America back to the bad ole days of back alley abortions, gays in closets and minorities in their place.

Forward to a real future or back to a dim, dark past. 

Choose well, America.

Be Well.


This is what the democrats believe about the republicans. No wonder we are at war with each other.


The people who don't believe that that's what Republicans think are called RINOs.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-08-21 10:21:26 AM

GAT_00: GOP: Elect us because fark the Constitution. Except the 2nd Amendment, we like that one. People die from that one.


Only the second part. The whole thing about "well regulated militias" doesn't count.
 
2012-08-21 10:22:28 AM

Diogenes: Tony Perkins, the president of the Family Research Council, chided McCain and said it would be "political suicide" for him to add language about exceptions for rape or incest in the abortion platform.

And there is Mr. Perkins again. Chided? Really? Yesterday he threatened to take out Scott Brown for saying Akin should resign.

Perkins sure seems violently insistent that the rights of rapists and those that commit incest should be protected. Their rights supersede those of a victim.

Perkins represents a Christian organization, right? So the "Family Research" Council is pro rape, pro sexual violence and pro forcible pregnancy.


The thing is, how do you state it is truly a human being, then say it's ok to kill because of the actions of its father?
 
2012-08-21 10:30:58 AM

vernonFL: Republicans: We are focused on the economy!

GOP Platform:

1.abortion
2. birth control
3. Jesus in schools
4. gay marriage
5. Bomb Iran


6. Outsource everything
 
2012-08-21 10:31:08 AM
there was a time when i agreed with the GOP about 50 percent of the time. today, i firmly believe that they are wrong on every single issue. every. single. one.
 
2012-08-21 10:36:22 AM

impaler: The thing is, how do you state it is truly a human being, then say it's ok to kill because of the actions of its father?


It's not for me to reconcile the issues for the FRC or others who believe a fetus is a full human being, entitled to all the rights and protections of a born person.

But given they do believe it's a human being, then they need to be willing to accept and admit that if they intend to be truly consistent in their belief about fetal personhood, they have to accept that it requires a woman to be victimized twice -- once by her attacker, and once by the state. Their beliefs have consequences, and they cannot be exempt from them.

Whose rights matter more in your opinion? A grown human or a fetus? Do the rights of an unwilling woman have any standing?
 
2012-08-21 10:36:29 AM

ManateeGag: God Is My Co-Pirate: Impeccable timing, GOP.

and by Impeccable, I mean COMPLETELY PECCABLE!


I don't think that chicken has any pecking left in it.
 
2012-08-21 10:37:10 AM

FlashHarry: there was a time when i agreed with the GOP about 50 percent of the time. today, i firmly believe that they are wrong on every single issue. every. single. one.


Curious: On what issues did you used to share agreement with the GOP?
 
2012-08-21 10:38:31 AM
The Republican Party favors a continuance of the public dialogue on abortion and supports the efforts of those who seek enactment of a constitutional amendment to restore protection of the right to life for unborn children.

That was the GOP platform in 1976 (right below their support for the Equal Rights Amendment), and each subsequent platform has had more or less the same abortion language in it.

Fat lot of good it does them, but it keeps each side's kool-aid drinkers cutting the checks.

Which is what this drama is really about.
 
2012-08-21 10:39:31 AM

FlashHarry: there was a time when i agreed with the GOP about 50 percent of the time. today, i firmly believe that they are wrong on every single issue. every. single. one.


True dat. I'm repulsed that at one point in my life I listened to Sean Hannity and watched Fox news.
 
2012-08-21 10:45:19 AM

Bonkthat_Again: You have one part of the population who believes live begins at conception. You have another who believes it begins at birth. No side is ever going to give way.


Life began 3.5 billion years ago. What's up for debate is not whether any particular collection of biological cells is living or not - by definition it is. What is up for debate is at what point does a collection of biological cells become a "person" in the eyes of the law.
 
2012-08-21 10:45:53 AM

Cythraul: Curious: On what issues did you used to share agreement with the GOP?


Since I agreed with him, I'll bite:
1) I wholly believed Saddam had WMDs, only because I limited myself to conservative media.
2) I didn't believe in gay marriage, because....well, I was taught intolerance, but mostly because I didn't know any gay couples. Over the years i met many wonderful people who easily made me realize i had no basis for the intolerance....or rather, hate.
3) I supported supply-side economics...again, I was taught. I always thought my income bracket aligned more with fiscal conservatives than liberals. Boy, was i wrong. There are no facts to support that supply-side economics work....it is merely an ideal that is used as a tool to funnel more money to the super-rich.
 
2012-08-21 10:48:31 AM
That's going to be kindof difficult, given that Romney already said explicitly that he wants to allow abortion in cases of Rape. Who exactly is running the show over there?
 
2012-08-21 10:50:12 AM
I never understood, and I am serious here, how is ban on abortion a "War on Women?"

Isn't a ban on abortion also bad for the guy who got her pregnant?

I am big time pro choice, by the way, but just wondering how this works. I find it similar to the feminists who say the government not giving out free birth control (not condoms, mind you) is a "war on women" and not a "war on men" as well for the same reasons.
 
2012-08-21 10:50:30 AM

Bonkthat_Again: FlashHarry: there was a time when i agreed with the GOP about 50 percent of the time. today, i firmly believe that they are wrong on every single issue. every. single. one.

True dat. I'm repulsed that at one point in my life I listened to Sean Hannity and watched Fox news.


I watch Hannity and listen to Limbaugh on the radio occasinoally. I don't necessarily agree with them, but I do make it a point to listen to what all sides are saying. It's important to know what arguments are being put forward and their rationale as to why.
 
2012-08-21 10:51:11 AM

Lost Thought 00: That's going to be kindof difficult, given that Romney already said explicitly that he wants to allow abortion in cases of Rape. Who exactly is running the show over there?


Sheldon Adelson.
 
2012-08-21 10:51:50 AM

Lost Thought 00: That's going to be kindof difficult, given that Romney already said explicitly that he wants to allow abortion in cases of Rape. Who exactly is running the show over there?


Make reference to Romney's stated positions is an unfair personal attack on him.
 
2012-08-21 10:52:00 AM

Diogenes: Perkins sure seems violently insistent that the rights of rapists and those that commit incest should be protected. Their rights supersede those of a victim.

Perkins represents a Christian organization, right? So the "Family Research" Council is pro rape, pro sexual violence and pro forcible pregnancy.


I'll ask the same question here I asked in the other thread:


If life begins at conception, why do Christians baptize kids after they are born? Are they intentionally condemning all miscarriages and all fertilized eggs that do not go to term to life in hell?

And if so, why? This seems heartless and cruel.
 
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