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(The Verge)   Google says patent wars "not helpful to innovation", as it launches its latest patent lawsuit   (theverge.com) divider line 15
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2012-08-21 02:31:08 PM  
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Captain_Ballbeard: Fark Google, these evil bastards bought Motorola specifically so that they could sue Apple.

Google, the eBay of information.


Oh my god, Google file one lawsuit against Apple after Apple filed gazillion lawsuits against Google's partners. Total evil incarnate.
2012-08-21 12:48:06 PM  
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Bacontastesgood: Shill, baby, shill. Tell us again how Drew was wrong.


Uh, okay, Ms. Palin. But to save everyone from your off-topic threadjacking, I'll merely refer you to the thread on Drew's talk and the discussion I had with Drew in it about where he was wrong and where he was right.
2012-08-21 12:16:52 PM  
1 votes:

drjekel_mrhyde: Meanwhile Google patents the Powerglove Link


A recently granted patent hints at a potential glove-based controller, with references to a pair of detectors that record "images" of an environment, and then determine gestures based on the calculated movement between them.

Hey, now, that's pretty cool.
2012-08-21 12:05:29 PM  
1 votes:

ha-ha-guy: /I keep hearing rumors that MS is going to preemptively take some shots at Apple to discourage any iPad/MS Surface releated patent trolling


Unlikely. One of the things that came out in the Samsung-Apple trial is that MS has licenses to many of Apple's patents, with explicit conditions that they not duplicate the look and feel of the iPad or iPhone.
They wouldn't want to either - MS still has a strong enough brand that they'd want to be visually distinguished from the iPad. Hence, Metro.
2012-08-21 11:58:10 AM  
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Random Anonymous Blackmail: Masso

It's one lawsuit against a very aggressive patent troll (Apple). I claim this legitimate self defense and let it slide. Apple's been suing anything Android and people that made rectangles with round edges. Until Google go suing anything under the Sun, they're still ok in my book.

This is exactly how I see it. Apple is being ankle biting biatches by going after Samsung, HTC because they know damn well going directly after Google would not be in their best interest. I think this is a big poke in the chest of Apple letting them know that they are aware of their childish games and fed up with their bullshiat.


Yup, the lawsuits have farked up some HTC delivery schedules (Apple had customs seizing shiat at one point) and really hurt their stock prices. I'm left holding on to my HTC stock and hoping after all this all resolved, they can rebound. I really just want Google to use its Motorola portfolio to make Apple their biatch at this point.

/I keep hearing rumors that MS is going to preemptively take some shots at Apple to discourage any iPad/MS Surface releated patent trolling
2012-08-21 11:53:58 AM  
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HotWingConspiracy: Theaetetus: HotWingConspiracy: Theaetetus: The garage inventor just starting out with $100 in sales? He's not even going to get noticed, much less a cease and desist.

Unless he tries to sell his invention to one of the bigs. Then they tell him no and swipe the design.

And then he takes his documentation of those negotiations and his patent and gathers investors who want in on his suit against the big guy. Worked for i4i for the tune of almost 300 million. Or if the little guy just wants to cash out and run, he can sell his patent and negotiation documentation to a patent troll.

Honestly, the "small inventor vs. big company" situation can be great for the inventor.

I somehow doubt this is the common outcome.


No, the more common outcome is that the small inventor never bothers talking to investors or getting legal advice and ends up posting on internet forums years later about how he totally had a great idea but got screwed over by "the man".
2012-08-21 11:52:19 AM  
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Masso

It's one lawsuit against a very aggressive patent troll (Apple). I claim this legitimate self defense and let it slide. Apple's been suing anything Android and people that made rectangles with round edges. Until Google go suing anything under the Sun, they're still ok in my book.

This is exactly how I see it. Apple is being ankle biting biatches by going after Samsung, HTC because they know damn well going directly after Google would not be in their best interest. I think this is a big poke in the chest of Apple letting them know that they are aware of their childish games and fed up with their bullshiat.
2012-08-21 11:45:33 AM  
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Masso: It's one lawsuit against a very aggressive patent troll (Apple). I claim this legitimate self defense and let it slide. Apple's been suing anything Android and people that made rectangles with round edges. Until Google go suing anything under the Sun, they're still ok in my book.


Google bought Motorola specifically so that they would have some patents to sue Apple for. That's a real patent troll, you brainwashed half-wit.
2012-08-21 11:41:07 AM  
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HotWingConspiracy: Theaetetus: The garage inventor just starting out with $100 in sales? He's not even going to get noticed, much less a cease and desist.

Unless he tries to sell his invention to one of the bigs. Then they tell him no and swipe the design.


And then he takes his documentation of those negotiations and his patent and gathers investors who want in on his suit against the big guy. Worked for i4i for the tune of almost 300 million. Or if the little guy just wants to cash out and run, he can sell his patent and negotiation documentation to a patent troll.

Honestly, the "small inventor vs. big company" situation can be great for the inventor.
2012-08-21 11:22:59 AM  
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Masso: Until Google go suing anything under the Sun


Why would they sue Sun Systems?
2012-08-21 11:22:24 AM  
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tgambitg: The patents in question:


5,883,580 - "a method and apparatus for receiving messages having a relevancy status (e.g., a location identifier) and processing the messages when the relevancy status changes."
5,922,047 - "an apparatus and method for providing control functions over multiple and diverse media applications, preferably operating at more than one designated node or location."
6,425,002 - "a message manager program for accepting and dispatching messages, application program(s) for handling and presenting messages, and message client program(s) that receive messages from the message manager program and provides them to the application program."
6,493,673 - "providing prompt element including an announcement to be read to a user, and an input element that allows an audible user input to be converted into a text string."
6,983,370 - "the ability to sync the messaging capabilities of multiple devices."
7,007,064 - "an apparatus and method for obtaining and managing wirelessly communicated content."
7,383,983 - "a system and method for pausing content in one device and resuming playback of the content in another device that may be in a different domain."

All software, and thus should be invalidated, since software should not be patented.


What makes you think any of those patents claim software, particularly when you've never actually read any of them? I mean, those "quotations" of yours don't even appear in the actual patents. It's apparent that you copy-pasted it from somewhere, without doing any verification of it, and are basing your conclusions on what someone else said.

Software and vague Design Patents are what are stifling innovation. Small companies can't enter the market without stepping on someone's toes due to sketchy patents, which hampers their ability to compete.

Pff... Small companies don't get sued*, because litigation isn't free. If you're seriously concerned about being sued for patent infringement, then it's because you've got revenues of a few million per year, and might have to pay a few tens of thousands in royalties, and perhaps you should cry yourself to sleep on your giant bed of money. The garage inventor just starting out with $100 in sales? He's not even going to get noticed, much less a cease and desist.

*except as a procedural tactic to force a particular venue, such as suing Microsoft in Washington and Fred Smallguy in Florida in the same suit, and then saying that Texas is a good compromise that's halfway between them. And that's no longer allowed, thanks to the patent reform act. And even back then, Microsoft's lawyers would cover Fred Smallguy, since they don't want him hampering their defense.
2012-08-21 11:13:45 AM  
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Masso: It's one lawsuit against a very aggressive patent troll (Apple).


"Patent troll" has an actual meaning, and it's not "anyone doing anything with patents that I dislike."
2012-08-21 11:07:08 AM  
1 votes:
It's one lawsuit against a very aggressive patent troll (Apple). I claim this legitimate self defense and let it slide. Apple's been suing anything Android and people that made rectangles with round edges. Until Google go suing anything under the Sun, they're still ok in my book.
2012-08-21 11:01:30 AM  
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Are you retarded subby? Google has no choice but to get involved in these expensive patent suits. Google would obviously rather not engage in them and save some money but has no choice. If you wanna play the game you have to play by the rules, doesn't mean you can't biatch about how stupid the rules are.
2012-08-21 09:12:31 AM  
1 votes:
This is absurd.

/Patently so.
 
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