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2012-08-21 03:17:05 AM
It's called Tragedy of the commons, and we've been struggling with it since the time of the Ancient Greeks.
 
2012-08-21 04:02:35 AM
That was amazing and depressing at the same time.
 
2012-08-21 04:06:08 AM
it's called Black Friday at Walmart
 
2012-08-21 04:12:58 AM
i970.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-21 04:28:00 AM
That ain't nothin'. You weren't there in ZZT when we ran out of memory to store more objects. Those were dark days, I tell you. Dark days with yellow borders.
 
2012-08-21 04:31:55 AM
Very interesting read. The dick-ass griefers had to have everything and lived in a gated community. Sounds familiar.
 
2012-08-21 06:07:37 AM
FAKE

I hate to link to reddit (and I especially hate to link to reddit via The Verge), but the whole thing's a big rehash of an even older story.

FAKE
 
2012-08-21 06:10:49 AM
And I guess even Fark hates linking to reddit since it et' up my link, so here's The Verge story (caveat at the end of the article).
 
2012-08-21 06:15:07 AM
I'm reading this as an insurance commercial goes "Humans, even when we cross our t's and dot our i's we still run into problems. Mainly, other humans."

Odd timing. Well, odd on top of odd. I'm normally not awake at 5am, and I normally don't watch news. And it's RAINING, in Dallas, and I spent the night preparing something that has to be transported when it's dry. I could have slept.

/Only really need 3 hours sleep
//Even sleep deprived I'm smarter than the average bear.
 
2012-08-21 06:22:26 AM
My "experiment" is to assume bacon is tasty, and then I eat it to determine if bacon is tasty.

/I once took a science class a long time ago, so I can do many experiments.
 
2012-08-21 06:24:31 AM
Easter Island without the statues of the ancestors.
 
2012-08-21 07:02:41 AM

wildcardjack: Odd timing. Well, odd on top of odd. I'm normally not awake at 5am, and I normally don't watch news. And it's RAINING, in Dallas, and I spent the night preparing something that has to be transported when it's dry. I could have slept.


Cover it with a tarp?
 
2012-08-21 07:12:40 AM
Obvious tag broken this morning subby?
 
2012-08-21 07:24:34 AM

wildcardjack: I'm reading this as an insurance commercial goes "Humans, even when we cross our t's and dot our i's we still run into problems. Mainly, other humans."

Odd timing. Well, odd on top of odd. I'm normally not awake at 5am, and I normally don't watch news. And it's RAINING, in Dallas, and I spent the night preparing something that has to be transported when it's dry. I could have slept.

/Only really need 3 hours sleep
//Even sleep deprived I'm smarter than the average bear.


Did you leave your cake out in the rain?
 
2012-08-21 07:29:14 AM

casual disregard: wildcardjack: Odd timing. Well, odd on top of odd. I'm normally not awake at 5am, and I normally don't watch news. And it's RAINING, in Dallas, and I spent the night preparing something that has to be transported when it's dry. I could have slept.

Cover it with a tarp?


Meh, the tarp I have is canvas and the whole thing can wait a day or three. And now I can prep a larger shipment.

/I get Amazon's base-load rate for UPS
//But they won't do pick-up at 35 cents a pound.
 
2012-08-21 07:31:09 AM
I've seen a similar documentary
i264.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-21 07:39:52 AM
Lol experiments in games like this always fascinate me, because gaming is usually humanity at its rawest. People often have no conscience in games because there is no lasting consequences to their actions. And this is a perfect example. And the dick-ass griefers........lol. That is humanity at it's finest. Getting a monopoly of resources and then abusing and ruining everything for everyone else.
 
2012-08-21 07:46:01 AM
Wait! I have another experiment.

I will burn some lighter fluid inside a chickenwire cage & see if that can't hold up a cinder block.

/911 truth is out there111!!111!
 
2012-08-21 07:51:32 AM

I hate I_Hate_Iowa: And I guess even Fark hates linking to reddit since it et' up my link, so here's The Verge story (caveat at the end of the article).


A lot of that has to do with the fact that fark has gone to shiat but reddit sails along with majestic aplomb.

/would be on reddit right now, but am at work and imigur is blocked.......and that is annoying.
 
2012-08-21 07:56:49 AM

andrewmoriarty: It's called Tragedy of the commons, and we've been struggling with it since the time of the Ancient Greeks.


Yeah, that was my reaction as well when I read the headline: "Another generation discovers the Tragedy of the Commons. Film at 11."
 
2012-08-21 07:59:15 AM

Sm3agol85: Lol experiments in games like this always fascinate me, because gaming is usually humanity at its rawest. People often have no conscience in games because there is no lasting consequences to their actions. And this is a perfect example. And the dick-ass griefers........lol. That is humanity at it's finest. Getting a monopoly of resources and then abusing and ruining everything for everyone else.


Except it's a fake, so there.
 
2012-08-21 07:59:59 AM

Gunny Walker: I've seen a similar documentary
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+1
 
2012-08-21 08:01:29 AM

andrewmoriarty: It's called Tragedy of the commons, and we've been struggling with it since the time of the Ancient Greeks.


Yes, but... but... Atlas Shrugged.
 
2012-08-21 08:18:51 AM
Of course, the population density of that limited-resource world was about six times that of the land area of Earth...
 
2012-08-21 08:25:23 AM

gameshowhost: Yes, but... but... Atlas Shrugged.


I've always wondered where Galt thinks he's going to refuel, maintain or land his plane when he comes back if there's no order to organize the people required on the ground.

I'm sure those are all things rich people can do on their own though....

/ John Galt: fictional history's greatest moron
 
2012-08-21 08:29:40 AM
STUPID

Humans go to war all the time for no reason. Going to war for a good reason means nothing.
 
2012-08-21 08:35:29 AM
Imagine that you are living on an island where all of the trees are being cut down and all of the animals hunted to extinction to sustain an unsustainable population, and at the end, people use all of their remaining resources to pray to the gods to bring about the apocalypse.
fubini.swarthmore.edu
 
2012-08-21 08:35:41 AM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: gameshowhost: Yes, but... but... Atlas Shrugged.

I've always wondered where Galt thinks he's going to refuel, maintain or land his plane when he comes back if there's no order to organize the people required on the ground.

I'm sure those are all things rich people can do on their own though....

/ John Galt: fictional history's greatest moron


In Atlantis, there no longer were limited resources; or at least limited enough to matter.
 
2012-08-21 08:38:29 AM
it reads like a giant game of settlers of catan

i guess the griefers had wood for sheep
 
2012-08-21 08:39:27 AM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: / John Galt: fictional history's greatest moron


Meet Ned Ludd
 
2012-08-21 08:43:15 AM

SevenizGud: Vegan Meat Popsicle: / John Galt: fictional history's greatest moron

Meet Ned Ludd


I'd prefer to meet Ned Kelly:

www.badassoftheweek.com
 
2012-08-21 08:47:44 AM
This reminds me of the book War With the Newts by Karel Capek.
 
2012-08-21 08:47:44 AM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: I've always wondered where Galt thinks he's going to refuel, maintain or land his plane when he comes back if there's no order to organize the people required on the ground.


He's an Alaskan bush pilot... problem solved.
 
2012-08-21 08:52:33 AM

I hate I_Hate_Iowa: FAKE

I hate to link to reddit (and I especially hate to link to reddit via The Verge), but the whole thing's a big rehash of an even older story.

FAKE


I don't understand, all 3 links tell the same story with the same characters, so how does that prove it's fake?
 
rpl
2012-08-21 09:00:17 AM
So... The struggle for survival is the struggle for dominance and in such a struggle the people will be split into terrorists, merchants, warring tribes and the lower class, in that respective order of dominance? And this has nothing to do with ideology? Golly!
 
2012-08-21 09:03:09 AM

Slaxl: I hate I_Hate_Iowa: FAKE

I hate to link to reddit (and I especially hate to link to reddit via The Verge), but the whole thing's a big rehash of an even older story.

FAKE

I don't understand, all 3 links tell the same story with the same characters, so how does that prove it's fake?


The verge link has an update at the end which links to the reddit thread where they claim it's fake.
 
2012-08-21 09:05:08 AM

MadMonk: This reminds me of the book War With the Newts by Karel Capek.


Good book.
 
2012-08-21 09:06:53 AM
I'm in a post apocalyptic Minecraft world right now, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies...
 
2012-08-21 09:08:00 AM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: gameshowhost: Yes, but... but... Atlas Shrugged.

I've always wondered where Galt thinks he's going to refuel, maintain or land his plane when he comes back if there's no order to organize the people required on the ground.

I'm sure those are all things rich people can do on their own though....

/ John Galt: fictional history's greatest moron


/Oblig

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-08-21 09:14:40 AM
Someone hasn't seen many Yogscast videos.
 
2012-08-21 09:42:24 AM
I don't know about this experiment. Griefing is part of minecraft when it comes to multiplayer servers. Don't most players know that? If he wanted to test people, wouldn't getting 30 people who have never played minecraft before have been a better idea?
 
2012-08-21 09:49:51 AM
It obviously wasn't an exercise in teaching the difference between "there" and "their".

/Read the long version linked in the article. I don't think he gets it right even once.
 
2012-08-21 10:24:14 AM
It's bullshiat. Check the updated page. Never happened.
 
2012-08-21 10:43:55 AM

cirby: Of course, the population density of that limited-resource world was about six times that of the land area of Earth...


why do you hate science?

he proved a theory that he set out to prove. a theory that I happen to support. he has experimental data in the form of screenshots!

never mind that he may have faked the whole thing. it proves that Ayn Rand wrote fiction, and socialism works! that is how experiments work in real life.

therefore, you are a moran.

/only serious responses to my non-troll post, plz
 
2012-08-21 10:48:57 AM

Saborlas: [i970.photobucket.com image 405x613]


Creepers drop gunpowder which is good for developing lulz.

Also, if you work at it, records.
 
2012-08-21 11:59:28 AM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: gameshowhost: Yes, but... but... Atlas Shrugged.

I've always wondered where Galt thinks he's going to refuel, maintain or land his plane when he comes back if there's no order to organize the people required on the ground.

I'm sure those are all things rich people can do on their own though....

/ John Galt: fictional history's greatest moron


I always wonder how Muggles think they're going to have jobs without smart/rich people providing them. Also, one does not need the gov't to provide order, unless one is an aforementioned Muggle.
 
2012-08-21 12:31:52 PM

gameshowhost: andrewmoriarty: It's called Tragedy of the commons, and we've been struggling with it since the time of the Ancient Greeks.

Yes, but... but... Atlas Shrugged.


More than anything I found it rather depressing that Eddie Willers is loyal and works hard for Dagny but in the end is abandoned in the desert, he just wasn't "special enough" so apparently he means nothing.

It's a worthwhile read, not because it is a good book but because like the South Park episodes you can say "This is what libertarians actually believe."
 
2012-08-21 01:05:10 PM
Except now the article says it was all a hoax.

I thought something sounded fishy. How do you 'run out of dirt'? And trees? Hell every one I cut down spits out 2-3 saplings. Its a renewable resource.
 
2012-08-21 01:05:17 PM

ThatBillmanGuy: I don't know about this experiment. Griefing is part of minecraft when it comes to multiplayer servers. Don't most players know that? If he wanted to test people, wouldn't getting 30 people who have never played minecraft before have been a better idea?


That and because minecraft is an entirely digital world, it's essentially consequence free. People tend to be less dickish when being a dick can put your life on the line, so I don't know if the results of this experiment (even if conducted in the way you suggest) would say much about the real world.
 
2012-08-21 01:17:10 PM
Years ago in one of the early updates for WoW there was a boss character who could give a disease that would sap something like 150 hp every second for 15 seconds and it would jump between nearby characters. People discovered that you could give it to your pet and then recall them and if you left the instance and re-summoned your pet it would still have the disease and could infect other people. Not surprisingly players used this to grief the cities and kill all lower level characters in the auction houses or quest givers. I think it was the inspiration for later zombie events.

I know it's short on details but I haven't played WoW for years, I'm sure there's someone else on FARK who can remember more clearly.
 
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