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2012-08-20 11:10:21 PM  
Mr. Romeney's important information is during the time he worked in Utah after 1999. Either he filed as a resident of Utah or he didn't. Either he filed as an active Chairman of Bain or he wasn't. We've heard rumors that he retroactively changed his state of residence from Utah to MA so he could meet the residency requirements to run for governor. That's what we want to see. Nobody cares whether he paid 13.9% or 15.2% in 2011. Either he lied on a federal document under penalty of perjury, or he didn't.
 
2012-08-20 11:18:00 PM  
I love that he's allowing this issue to sink his entire campaign. Unless there is something blatantly felonious in those returns, he could have released them in June, and we'd have been all done talking about them by now.

Instead, he is dragging it out and encouraging people to draw their own conclusions as to what is fueling his hypocrisy and secrecy.

Seriously. It's got to be a truly special hell for Romney to sit there and realize that not releasing his returns will cost him the election while believing that releasing them will also cost him the election. At some point, he's going to have an epic "Fark-it" moment, and I want to be there to see it.
 
2012-08-20 11:18:01 PM  
Wasn't 2009 the Amnesty year?
 
2012-08-20 11:20:24 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: Wasn't 2009 the Amnesty year?


By what must be merely an amazing coincidence, yes.
 
2012-08-20 11:21:40 PM  
And Mitt's November surprise?

/"I got a rock"
 
2012-08-20 11:25:12 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: And Mitt's November surprise?

/"I got a rock"



... I totally misread that the first time.

It would be a surprise, though.
 
2012-08-20 11:26:26 PM  
I thought third party tax materials had to be mailed by February 15th so a tax filer had time to complete their returns by April 15th. It must be different when you're not part of the 99.9%
 
2012-08-20 11:32:58 PM  
Who gives a shiat about 2011. We need to see his taxes from when he wasn't actively running for President...or 2009.
 
2012-08-20 11:38:49 PM  

Vodka Zombie: Seriously. It's got to be a truly special hell for Romney to sit there and realize that not releasing his returns will cost him the election while believing that releasing them will also cost him the election. At some point, he's going to have an epic "Fark-it" moment, and I want to be there to see it.


It has to be a truely special hell to realize that he should have had more basic tax returns than whatever creative accounting fustercluck he's trying to run from now. He's been running for president for at least 6 years! This was going to come up!
 
2012-08-21 12:10:00 AM  
"They're being finalized. There's a lot of forms that have to come in from other entities that the governor doesn't have control over scrubbed of anything incriminating and by the time anyone finds out they've been altered he'll be president and it'll be too late to do anything about it,"

Fixed.
 
2012-08-21 12:16:00 AM  

DamnYankees: Who gives a shiat about 2011. We need to see his taxes from when he wasn't actively running for President...or 2009.


Yeah, that's how you win that argument. "We demand his taxes for all years. Except this years, those don't count." 

Way to lose an argument that I didn't think was possible to lose.
 
2012-08-21 12:22:37 AM  

GAT_00: DamnYankees: Who gives a shiat about 2011. We need to see his taxes from when he wasn't actively running for President...or 2009.

Yeah, that's how you win that argument. "We demand his taxes for all years. Except this years, those don't count." 

Way to lose an argument that I didn't think was possible to lose.


It's a valid argument. he's only releasing 2011 becuase he's actively not screwing aroudn with them. IT's all the years he isn't releasing that contain bombshells. Republicans claim to get all hyperventalating about not paying taxes and yet seem to have NO Problem with Romney actively HIDING his tax returns, even though releasing them has been standard for presidential candidates since his FATHER ran.

It's very suspicious in a campaign that can't afford suspicion.
 
2012-08-21 12:25:52 AM  
I wonder if he's waited this long to hype up the dem derp only to release his taxes at the last minute to show that they're really boring and there's nothing to see.

That would discredit the dems in the eyes of quite a few...
 
2012-08-21 12:28:20 AM  

Ambivalence: GAT_00: DamnYankees: Who gives a shiat about 2011. We need to see his taxes from when he wasn't actively running for President...or 2009.

Yeah, that's how you win that argument. "We demand his taxes for all years. Except this years, those don't count." 

Way to lose an argument that I didn't think was possible to lose.

It's a valid argument. he's only releasing 2011 becuase he's actively not screwing aroudn with them. IT's all the years he isn't releasing that contain bombshells. Republicans claim to get all hyperventalating about not paying taxes and yet seem to have NO Problem with Romney actively HIDING his tax returns, even though releasing them has been standard for presidential candidates since his FATHER ran.

It's very suspicious in a campaign that can't afford suspicion.


You can't demand the guy release 12 years of returns and then ignore the ones he's actually released, it makes you disingenuous and makes you look like a farking moron. What's more, it completely undercuts your entire argument.
 
2012-08-21 12:35:47 AM  

GAT_00: AmYou can't demand the guy release 12 years of returns and then ignore the ones he's actually released, it makes you disingenuous and makes you look like a farking moron. What's more, it completely undercuts your entire argument.


He hasn't released anything more than a partial 2010. He hasn't released a full year's tax returns. By any metric that's incredibly inadequate for a presidential candidate.
 
2012-08-21 12:41:27 AM  
With a debate the next day.
Perfect.
 
2012-08-21 12:56:39 AM  

crypticsatellite: I wonder if he's waited this long to hype up the dem derp only to release his taxes at the last minute to show that they're really boring and there's nothing to see.

That would discredit the dems in the eyes of quite a few...


It's possible. That's more or less the card Obama played with the birth certificate. However the tax return thing has at least one important difference - candidates have been, per tradition, releasing their returns for decades. Nobody had ever questioned a president's qualifications to be president by reason of alleged foreign birth, and thus to my knowledge, no president had ever been pestered to release their long-form birth certificate.

Also, Romney is a steaming, lying sack of shiat, so there's that, too.
 
2012-08-21 12:57:14 AM  

crypticsatellite: I wonder if he's waited this long to hype up the dem derp only to release his taxes at the last minute to show that they're really boring and there's nothing to see.

That would discredit the dems in the eyes of quite a few...


Yeah, that Mitt is a master troll.
 
2012-08-21 01:02:13 AM  
Dems obsession with Romney's tax returns don't win any votes for Obama.

So keep up the good work, boys.
 
2012-08-21 01:24:26 AM  

Ambivalence: GAT_00: AmYou can't demand the guy release 12 years of returns and then ignore the ones he's actually released, it makes you disingenuous and makes you look like a farking moron. What's more, it completely undercuts your entire argument.

He hasn't released anything more than a partial 2010. He hasn't released a full year's tax returns. By any metric that's incredibly inadequate for a presidential candidate.


Go be intentionally retarded elsewhere.
 
2012-08-21 01:26:25 AM  

MeinRS6: Dems obsession with Romney's tax returns don't win any votes for Obama.

So keep up the good work, boys.


Just release the tax returns, Mitt, and we'll stop talking about them. Unless, of course, they really show that you paid no taxes between 2000 and 2009. Or have a huge deduction for all the tiny kittens whose heads you bit off.
 
2012-08-21 01:30:50 AM  
What would it take for an Anon raid to steal the critical years and dump them on Wikileaks? I wonder how hard that would be.

Old-ass man is old-ass, likely has them in paper copy if at all.
 
2012-08-21 01:34:29 AM  

omnibus_necanda_sunt: What would it take for an Anon raid to steal the critical years and dump them on Wikileaks? I wonder how hard that would be.

Old-ass man is old-ass, likely has them in paper copy if at all.


First I think it would require Anon to be more powerful in fact than it is in reputation
 
2012-08-21 01:37:52 AM  
Way to go Mitt, just a few weeks before the election is a great time to remind undecided voters about you being the first candidate in damn near forever to not release several years of tax returns. No way that's going to bite you in the ass.
 
2012-08-21 01:43:52 AM  

ShawnDoc: Way to go Mitt, just a few weeks before the election is a great time to remind undecided voters about you being the first candidate in damn near forever to not release several years of tax returns. No way that's going to bite you in the ass.


It won't matter. Voters already know Romney is rich. People will be voting for him to get rid of Obama.

And most importantly, people voting for Romney don't care what pisses libs off. In fact, it's good comedy.
 
2012-08-21 01:44:35 AM  
So... his October surprise is that he's finally releasing the second tax return he's been saying he's already released? I mean, he keep saying he's "released two," but what he did was release 2010 plus estimates for 2011. Now he's saying that three weeks before the election he's going to get around to it? Whoopty farking doo.

I think I finally figured out what the Republicans are doing this election. They put Romney up because it's his turn but they knew he'd never have a chance, so they don't really have to throw their support behind the first non-Christian Republican in history. Ryan was put up because Boehner is tired of the push back he's been getting from the Teabagging contingent, so they're throwing him in the mix so they can say, "See? Those super extreme ideas don't work. Now we need to get back to good old Bush-era economics."
 
2012-08-21 01:51:53 AM  

Tarkus: I thought third party tax materials had to be mailed by February 15th so a tax filer had time to complete their returns by April 15th. It must be different when you're not part of the 99.9%


he filed an extension to delay filing the papers, not actually paying the taxes. You are required to have paid ~90%(?) by the year end. april 15th is just about filing the papers and paying off the remainder.
Pretty sure that the extension does NOT include delaying the paying of taxes .....

either way, does he really think that he should still be president? he cant even get his taxes done on time and GUESS WHAT, he isnt doing them!!!

oh wait, if his accountants had finished in april, he would have no excuse to not having released them.
bwhahahahahaahahahahahhahahahahahahahaah
 
2012-08-21 01:53:48 AM  

ShawnDoc: Way to go Mitt, just a few weeks before the election is a great time to remind undecided voters about you being the first candidate in damn near forever to not release several years of tax returns. No way that's going to bite you in the ass.


You can imagine non-stop ads from Obama Inc.
"Mitt what are you really hiding??"
and then list the years released for every candidate back to nixon? LOL
 
2012-08-21 02:00:34 AM  

MeinRS6: ShawnDoc: Way to go Mitt, just a few weeks before the election is a great time to remind undecided voters about you being the first candidate in damn near forever to not release several years of tax returns. No way that's going to bite you in the ass.

It won't matter. Voters already know Romney is rich. People will be voting for him to get rid of Obama.

And most importantly, people voting for Romney don't care what pisses libs off. In fact, it's good comedy.


What pisses libs off: a candidate bucking years of tradition for no apparent reason, other than that following it would be more damaging.

What pisses cons off: America is now a Communo-fascist state run with an iron fist by a tyrannical Muslim Kenyan.

C'mon, Mein...which is really more comical?
 
2012-08-21 02:08:35 AM  

MeinRS6: And most importantly, people voting for Romney don't care what pisses libs off. In fact, it's good comedy.


It's a well-established fact that conservatives don't do or even understand good comedy.
 
2012-08-21 02:14:29 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-08-21 02:37:07 AM  
Mitt Romney's body has to be covered in partially-removed Band-Aids.
 
2012-08-21 02:37:09 AM  
Is it really going to take till October to dummy those up?

I could do it in half the time and they'd look 100% legit.

Call me, Mittens. (thumb+pinky gesture here)
 
2012-08-21 02:55:07 AM  
Oh the tangled web so pretty,
when we allow armies of highly paid accountants
hey, here's my 1040 EZ
 
2012-08-21 03:06:34 AM  
I.
Don't.
Care.
He.
Tied.
His.
Dog
To.
The.
Car.
Roof.
And.
Drove.
Hundreds.
Of.
Miles.
And.
Thought.
It.
Was.
Funny.

Fark him.
 
2012-08-21 03:07:11 AM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: Wasn't 2009 the Amnesty year?


Romney's already stated releasing his 2009 returns would sink his campaign. My guess it's a three-fer..

1. Received amnesty from Obama.
2. Didn't pay any American taxes.
3. Paid significantly less than 10% of income to his cult.
 
2012-08-21 03:07:15 AM  
Waiting for Obama to release a piece of evidence implying that Mitt had an illegal Swiss bank account that he received amnesty for in 2009. That 2009 tax return is an obvious roadblock to him releasing more years, as it would look weird if he released the past 10 years but skipped one. There's something in the '09 return that is so damaging that he'll risk his entire campaign to keep it a secret.
 
2012-08-21 03:07:16 AM  

timujin: They put Romney up because


Stop right there.

"They" didn't put Romney up.

"He" basically never stopped campaigning since the last election. He was the first on the ground with the most money to throw around and the backers came in when they realized that he had no intention of letting up.

"They" would have preferred any number of other candidates. This cycle the nutcases came out of the woodwork and were allowed to because Mitt took a big dump in their Wheaties by doing what he did and not giving them any real chance to pick anyone BUT him. 2010 was supposed to be when the real crazies came out. The phrase was "If not now, then when?" And that's why folks like Rand Paul made it in and O'Donnell came closer than she reasonably ever should.

And thusly the bit about "Democrats fall in love and Republicans fall in line" failed. After the wreck of backing Bush for eight years and a splinter group they can't get anyone in line anymore.
 
2012-08-21 03:10:19 AM  

GleeUnit: That's more or less the card Obama played with the birth certificate.


Wait, what?

Obama released his birth certificate WAY before the 2008 election. He's also the ONLY presidential candidate to have released his birth certificate in the history of the country.

So no, this is nothing like the "card Obama played with the birth certificate."
 
2012-08-21 03:11:02 AM  
Romney won't release his tax returns. Palin never released her medical records. Both reflect an unprecedented level of secrecy in presidential campaigns that Dem candidates have had zero problems releasing. But in the GOP team-first mentality, it's OK to have no f*cking idea who the person you're voting for actually is, so long as he calls himself a Republican.
 
2012-08-21 03:14:58 AM  

GleeUnit: That's more or less the card Obama played with the birth certificate.



I don't think this is a Romney rope-a-dope. I think this is Romney hiding as much as he can for as long as he can. October is too late for it to have any real impact, especially after taking a beating over it for another two months.

And Obama released his birth certificate in June of 2008, but the stupid teabaggers INSISTED on hanging themselves with it for four more years.
 
2012-08-21 03:15:15 AM  
What are the chances that Romney is an Andy Kaufman like troll?

Or even Kaufman himself, in the greatest stunt ever.
 
2012-08-21 03:24:29 AM  
Releasing just 2011 is plain retarded, or better said, is a slap in the face of Americans implying that we are retarded. No one cares about 2011 when Romney was running for president. It would be useful to know his taxes as a businessperson. AND we would like to know about the overseas offshore income.
 
2012-08-21 03:25:19 AM  

shower_in_my_socks: Romney won't release his tax returns. Palin never released her medical records. Both reflect an unprecedented level of secrecy in presidential campaigns that Dem candidates have had zero problems releasing. But in the GOP team-first mentality, it's OK to have no f*cking idea who the person you're voting for actually is, so long as he calls himself a Republican.


Spare us your faux outrage. The ONLY reason you want Romney's returns is to use them to attack him - no matter what they say.

If it was proven that Obama purposely cheated on his taxes for years, you would still vote for him in Nov. You don't care about the taxes. You care about attacking Romney, so at least be honest about that.

And somehow the country survived not having Palin's medical records. Let me put on my shocked face.
 
2012-08-21 03:25:30 AM  

MeinRS6: ShawnDoc: Way to go Mitt, just a few weeks before the election is a great time to remind undecided voters about you being the first candidate in damn near forever to not release several years of tax returns. No way that's going to bite you in the ass.

It won't matter. Voters already know Romney is rich. People will be voting for him to get rid of Obama.

And most importantly, people voting for Romney don't care what pisses libs off. In fact, it's good comedy.


Instead of making such a silly worthless post, would you like to actually speculate why Romney refuses to release his returns, and/or defend the action in some way?
 
2012-08-21 03:30:42 AM  

GleeUnit: no president had ever been pestered to release their long-form birth certificate


Before the birthers, I don't think most people knew a long-form birth certificate was a thing that existed at all. I certainly didn't.

Of course the real difference between someone's birth certificate and someone's tax return is one is created before they have any awareness of the world, and contains little in the way of information, and the other is something they endorse as true, facing jail time if they lie, and contains a farkton of information about them.
 
2012-08-21 03:32:04 AM  

farkityfarker: MeinRS6: ShawnDoc: Way to go Mitt, just a few weeks before the election is a great time to remind undecided voters about you being the first candidate in damn near forever to not release several years of tax returns. No way that's going to bite you in the ass.

It won't matter. Voters already know Romney is rich. People will be voting for him to get rid of Obama.

And most importantly, people voting for Romney don't care what pisses libs off. In fact, it's good comedy.

Instead of making such a silly worthless post, would you like to actually speculate why Romney refuses to release his returns, and/or defend the action in some way?


I don't think it was silly. I think it is true that people voting for Romney don't care what piss libs off. They also want Romney to win by running the best campaign he can. And I would guess that Romney isn't releasing more returns because his political enemies are using them to attack him. 

If the whole thing gets under Obama's and all libs' skin, then so much the better. They can twist and turn in the wind over returns from 5 yrs ago and not gain a single vote in the process.
 
2012-08-21 03:34:45 AM  

shower_in_my_socks: Waiting for Obama to release a piece of evidence implying that Mitt had an illegal Swiss bank account that he received amnesty for in 2009. That 2009 tax return is an obvious roadblock to him releasing more years, as it would look weird if he released the past 10 years but skipped one. There's something in the '09 return that is so damaging that he'll risk his entire campaign to keep it a secret.


yup
this is it
so the REAL solution is to demand that he release ONE additional year, 2009.
and watch him SQUIRMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
 
2012-08-21 03:38:37 AM  
Romney gets grief for not showing multiple tax returns like every candidate has for decades.

Obama gets grief for not showing his birth certificate which no candidate has ever been asked to do (and eventually he does)

See how unfair libs are to poor Willard?
 
2012-08-21 03:41:51 AM  
FTFA: Gillespie faulted the Obama team's focus on Romney's personal taxes. "It wasn't an issue in 2008 because President Obama wasn't trying to distract from a four-year-long record of failed policies," he added.

I thought Mitt Romney's tax returns weren't an issue in 2008 because John McCain was the Republican Presidential Nominee.

Oh wait, they actually were an issue in 2008 - Mitt gave McCain a copy of his returns when trying to become his VP pick....
 
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