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2012-08-21 08:51:40 AM  

Oh fer fuxsake...the little d-bag Kirk Cameron is on CNN apologizing for Akin.

HE DID NOT MISSPEAK, YOU DUMBFARK!



Hurrrrrr.
 
2012-08-21 08:51:57 AM  
Ah, farkabee. This is an old bit from 2001, but it's a great bit that shows just how stupid this guy is -- even on issues that have nothing to do with anything related to Jeebus. This longer clip sets up the joke, but you can FF to 1:50 to see the most relevant part.

Congratulations, Canada, on preserving your national igloo!
 
2012-08-21 08:52:07 AM  
I can understand and sympathize with the idea that every fetus should have a chance to grow into a successful adult but come on in the real world that just isn't a working solution.
 
2012-08-21 08:53:29 AM  

ModernPrimitive01: Private_Citizen: The whole "forcible rape" (legitimate rape according to Akin) is a way to ban abortion. Akin, Ryan and many other GOP Reps all cosponsored a bill to ban abortion except in cases of forcible rape. However, since Akin and others claim that you can't get pregnant from forcible rape, then all abortions are illegal (since if you're pregnant, it wasn't "real, legitimate rape").

His views are reprehensible - but he he can distract you long enough, his views will be the law of the land. He's not just a loon, he's a loon with legislative authority.

[blessthe40oz.com image 480x347]


And that's when we lawyers come in handy.

/just sayin'
 
2012-08-21 08:54:22 AM  

untaken_name: Vodka Zombie: The concept of "forcible" rape exists only to demonstrate to the planet that you are a very stupid person who deserves to be mocked without mercy.


I agree that people who believe in so-called "date rape" are stupid and deserve to be mocked.


once the rape starts I think the date is over.
 
2012-08-21 08:55:12 AM  

verbaltoxin: They've lost control of their message aka The NarrativeTM. I was listening to NPR last week, and there was a woman on there explaining why there's no liberal Ayn Rand. The reasons are apparent to most of us here probably, but the short version is that conservatives spent decades creating an intricate, reinforced narrative they could use to gain traction. Now that message is a monster and it's stomped off into the village.


lh3.ggpht.com

That said, I think Huckabee's argument is valid. Saying ``Rape is a terrible thing but abortion would only compound what is terrible'' is much better than saying, ``Well, in some cases rape's bad, but it's rare that you'll get pregnant, so piss off if you get pregnant from rape.''
 
2012-08-21 08:55:17 AM  

Headso: I can understand and sympathize with the idea that every fetus should have a chance to grow into a successful adult but come on in the real world that just isn't a working solution.


See there's the problem right there. You have to make up a fictitious world first, then shape the facts to match your imaginary idea
 
2012-08-21 08:55:47 AM  

cc_rider: Oh fer fuxsake...the little d-bag Kirk Cameron is on CNN apologizing for Akin.

HE DID NOT MISSPEAK, YOU DUMBFARK!

Hurrrrrr.


Which means they had to get KIRK CAMERON to do it, because people within the party who matter know. They know what this, the rape bill last spring, the all-male contraceptive hearing, and all that "war on women" crap is going to cost them, and they need to get as far away from Akin as possible. That's why it's being left to guys like Huckabee and Cameron to apologize for it. They already know they're covered in sh*t and have nothing to lose. Their audience is the converted. They just need to make sure none of the rubes start saying to themselves, "Hey, wait a second...."
 
2012-08-21 08:56:05 AM  
If they get to redefine rape, I think the rest of us should redefine spitting on them anytime they're in public as not 'legitimate' assault.

In fact, not only should it be totally legal to spit on Huckabee and Akin, but it should be encouraged. All right thinking Americans, hawk your loogies for freedom!
 
2012-08-21 08:56:43 AM  

Salt Lick Steady: ModernPrimitive01: Private_Citizen: The whole "forcible rape" (legitimate rape according to Akin) is a way to ban abortion. Akin, Ryan and many other GOP Reps all cosponsored a bill to ban abortion except in cases of forcible rape. However, since Akin and others claim that you can't get pregnant from forcible rape, then all abortions are illegal (since if you're pregnant, it wasn't "real, legitimate rape").

His views are reprehensible - but he he can distract you long enough, his views will be the law of the land. He's not just a loon, he's a loon with legislative authority.

[blessthe40oz.com image 480x347]

And that's when we lawyers come in handy.

/just sayin'


I hate villainous Republicans as much as the next guy, but siding with lawyers? That's just not something I can bring myself to do
 
2012-08-21 08:59:08 AM  

verbaltoxin: cc_rider: Oh fer fuxsake...the little d-bag Kirk Cameron is on CNN apologizing for Akin.

HE DID NOT MISSPEAK, YOU DUMBFARK!

Hurrrrrr.

Which means they had to get KIRK CAMERON to do it, because people within the party who matter know. They know what this, the rape bill last spring, the all-male contraceptive hearing, and all that "war on women" crap is going to cost them, and they need to get as far away from Akin as possible. That's why it's being left to guys like Huckabee and Cameron to apologize for it. They already know they're covered in sh*t and have nothing to lose. Their audience is the converted. They just need to make sure none of the rubes start saying to themselves, "Hey, wait a second...."


But no, they're not rubes. My dad, many of my longtime friends, they're conservative as hell, and they're smart as hell. But they were there for me when that happened, and they will not tolerate this. They have already started saying, "Hey, wait a second..." Or more like "What the fark?"
 
2012-08-21 09:00:28 AM  

ModernPrimitive01: Salt Lick Steady: ModernPrimitive01: Private_Citizen: The whole "forcible rape" (legitimate rape according to Akin) is a way to ban abortion. Akin, Ryan and many other GOP Reps all cosponsored a bill to ban abortion except in cases of forcible rape. However, since Akin and others claim that you can't get pregnant from forcible rape, then all abortions are illegal (since if you're pregnant, it wasn't "real, legitimate rape").

His views are reprehensible - but he he can distract you long enough, his views will be the law of the land. He's not just a loon, he's a loon with legislative authority.

[blessthe40oz.com image 480x347]

And that's when we lawyers come in handy.

/just sayin'

I hate villainous Republicans as much as the next guy, but siding with lawyers? That's just not something I can bring myself to do


hah. "First thing we do, we kill all the lawyers!"

/not familiar with me are ya?
 
2012-08-21 09:01:27 AM  

Salt Lick Steady: I guess I'll just throw this out there.

Having flashbacks of a rape, or having someone even remind you of it, can send an otherwise stable person into ptsd mode. I'm shaking and stabby right now reading a damn fark thread about it. I can't even imagine the life of the "typical" person who grew up as a product of rape, but I can personally say that such product wouldn't have made it many years before it was dead and I was in prison.

 


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2012-08-21 09:03:29 AM  

doglover: Salt Lick Steady: I guess I'll just throw this out there.

Having flashbacks of a rape, or having someone even remind you of it, can send an otherwise stable person into ptsd mode. I'm shaking and stabby right now reading a damn fark thread about it. I can't even imagine the life of the "typical" person who grew up as a product of rape, but I can personally say that such product wouldn't have made it many years before it was dead and I was in prison. 


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ah that's why I love you. I went from "Kill now" to "laughing my ass off" in a moment

/thanks :)
 
2012-08-21 09:04:11 AM  
WorldCitizen: "I think they are "trying" to make the distinction from statutory rape."

On day 2 after a national media firestorm over the issue, there's really no room for playing the "misspoke" card anymore, nor is there any call to infer generous "interpretations" that turn offensive, regressive bullshiat into something slightly less offensive, regressive and bullshiat.

If these two ass-clowns were trying to say "I think abortion should be legal in most cases of rape, but I don't think the circumstances of statutory rape justify it." there should be a precise direct quote we can point to. And another quote to specify that that's the only class of 'rape' they're trying to exempt. Absent quotes to that effect, there's absolutely no reason to think that they're being any less regressive than they really are.

It is quite clear at this point that they're trying -- again -- to draw some distinction between their concept of 'rape' and their concept of 'rape rape'. And given that their party and core constituency has a long and well-documented history of supporting and repeating that sort of bullshiat ('she was askin for it', 'date-rape is just regret', 'feminists cry rape because they hate men', etc.), it's thoroughly unsurprising and there really shouldn't have been any polite interpretations offered *the first time*.
 
2012-08-21 09:07:08 AM  

Salt Lick Steady: doglover: Salt Lick Steady: I guess I'll just throw this out there.

Having flashbacks of a rape, or having someone even remind you of it, can send an otherwise stable person into ptsd mode. I'm shaking and stabby right now reading a damn fark thread about it. I can't even imagine the life of the "typical" person who grew up as a product of rape, but I can personally say that such product wouldn't have made it many years before it was dead and I was in prison. 


[25.media.tumblr.com image 624x317]

ah that's why I love you. I went from "Kill now" to "laughing my ass off" in a moment

/thanks :)


You took it in a totally different direction that I would have expected.
 
2012-08-21 09:07:53 AM  

Salt Lick Steady: verbaltoxin: cc_rider: Oh fer fuxsake...the little d-bag Kirk Cameron is on CNN apologizing for Akin.

HE DID NOT MISSPEAK, YOU DUMBFARK!

Hurrrrrr.

Which means they had to get KIRK CAMERON to do it, because people within the party who matter know. They know what this, the rape bill last spring, the all-male contraceptive hearing, and all that "war on women" crap is going to cost them, and they need to get as far away from Akin as possible. That's why it's being left to guys like Huckabee and Cameron to apologize for it. They already know they're covered in sh*t and have nothing to lose. Their audience is the converted. They just need to make sure none of the rubes start saying to themselves, "Hey, wait a second...."

But no, they're not rubes. My dad, many of my longtime friends, they're conservative as hell, and they're smart as hell. But they were there for me when that happened, and they will not tolerate this. They have already started saying, "Hey, wait a second..." Or more like "What the fark?"


But those are just the people you know, not the masses living in Bible-stenched Missouri, where there's a Baptist church every few blocks in the Ozarks, Catholic ones every few blocks in the cities, and Evangelical ones all over the northern portion of the state.

Call me a cynic, but I grew up there and I saw these folks at work everyday. If anything, be hopeful they have to send people out to keep the converted in line. If more of them were like your dad, the GOP would be in for a world of hurt not just this fall, but many elections after.

It's like how the right was surprised at the backlash coming from women in the party back when the whole, forcible rape bill first came up, and Congress was having hearing on the pill like it was 1955 again. They didn't understand how even some conservative women have their limits with authoritarianism, and those women remembered what it felt like to be able to have some protection for the first time, and they thought of their daughters and granddaughters, and realized what the men were trying to do. So what did the GOP do? They had to dredge up Sarah Palin, Dana Loesch and Michelle Bachmann to try and get the true believin' ladies to pipe down, lest this whole election becomes a referendum on reproductive rights - a fight the GOP knows they can't win, no matter how much PAC money gets spent.

Funny thing is, they got so close to making it fade from view, and they were starting to craft a somewhat effective message against Obama and the economy. Sure it was reality-defying still, for the economy is recovering, albeit slowly, but at least it played to Republican strengths, because hey, conservatives love money, and they hate taxes.

Then Todd Akin had to open his yapper on the local news, and it went viral. He might not have just blown his chances at a Senate seat here, is what I'm saying.
 
2012-08-21 09:07:56 AM  

Garaba: Fark Republicans, that is all


Now, would that be rape, or would it be rape rape?
 
2012-08-21 09:07:56 AM  
Don't forget that Mike Huckabee was on of the first major speakers announced for the Republican National Convention.

This is the chosen face of the modern Republican Party. These are the views they choose to promote.
 
2012-08-21 09:09:27 AM  

doglover: MythDragon: Bonus:
If you GIS 'rape' and 'Japan', you get this gem.
3.bp.blogspot.com


The green vegetable in the back of the octopi is a stalk of rape flower.

Don't know what rape flower is? Look into what "canola" really means. It will blow your mind. Also, you'll finally understand why there's 40lbs of it a box.


I know what a rape flower is, I wasn't even thinking about that. When I see octopus come up in a GIS for 'rape' and 'Japan' I just think it's par for the course for Japan.
 
2012-08-21 09:10:38 AM  
What is "forcible" rape? Rape is rape regardless.
 
2012-08-21 09:10:43 AM  

verbaltoxin: Salt Lick Steady: verbaltoxin: cc_rider: Oh fer fuxsake...the little d-bag Kirk Cameron is on CNN apologizing for Akin.

HE DID NOT MISSPEAK, YOU DUMBFARK!

Hurrrrrr.

Which means they had to get KIRK CAMERON to do it, because people within the party who matter know. They know what this, the rape bill last spring, the all-male contraceptive hearing, and all that "war on women" crap is going to cost them, and they need to get as far away from Akin as possible. That's why it's being left to guys like Huckabee and Cameron to apologize for it. They already know they're covered in sh*t and have nothing to lose. Their audience is the converted. They just need to make sure none of the rubes start saying to themselves, "Hey, wait a second...."

But no, they're not rubes. My dad, many of my longtime friends, they're conservative as hell, and they're smart as hell. But they were there for me when that happened, and they will not tolerate this. They have already started saying, "Hey, wait a second..." Or more like "What the fark?"

But those are just the people you know, not the masses living in Bible-stenched Missouri, where there's a Baptist church every few blocks in the Ozarks, Catholic ones every few blocks in the cities, and Evangelical ones all over the northern portion of the state.

Call me a cynic, but I grew up there and I saw these folks at work everyday. If anything, be hopeful they have to send people out to keep the converted in line. If more of them were like your dad, the GOP would be in for a world of hurt not just this fall, but many elections after.

It's like how the right was surprised at the backlash coming from women in the party back when the whole, forcible rape bill first came up, and Congress was having hearing on the pill like it was 1955 again. They didn't understand how even some conservative women have their limits with authoritarianism, and those women remembered what it felt like to be able to have some protection for the first time, and they ...


That was beautifully said. I live in the Bible belt, but still...
 
2012-08-21 09:10:51 AM  

verbaltoxin: heavymetal: Irving Maimway: Holy fark he really said that.

And again with the "forcible" rape? WTF does that even mean? How can there be variations on rape?? I really don't understand this mindset, unless it's the whole "Well, she was asking for it by the way she was dressed that horrible tramp" theory.

//Don't want to live on this planet anymore.

Pretty much. It seems like they view stuff like statutory rape or where the victim was incapacitated as situations where the victim is at fault. That is pretty sickening. There will be no exceptions for rape in the GOP platform either meaning as a party they agree no matter what their talking heads and candidates say.

You would think that when an official party stance gets explained in non-legalese as it did by Todd Akin and it gains such universal scorn, it might be time to change it. Not the GOP.

They've lost control of their message aka The NarrativeTM. I was listening to NPR last week, and there was a woman on there explaining why there's no liberal Ayn Rand. The reasons are apparent to most of us here probably, but the short version is that conservatives spent decades creating an intricate, reinforced narrative they could use to gain traction. Now that message is a monster and it's stomped off into the village.


You are right and it is interesting watching the mainstream GOP try to slay the beast they created. One big problem is in creating that narrative they formed an "unholy alliance" with people who basically agree with Todd Akin and depend on that vote in order to win elections.
 
2012-08-21 09:11:56 AM  

doglover: Salt Lick Steady: doglover: Salt Lick Steady: I guess I'll just throw this out there.

Having flashbacks of a rape, or having someone even remind you of it, can send an otherwise stable person into ptsd mode. I'm shaking and stabby right now reading a damn fark thread about it. I can't even imagine the life of the "typical" person who grew up as a product of rape, but I can personally say that such product wouldn't have made it many years before it was dead and I was in prison. 


[25.media.tumblr.com image 624x317]

ah that's why I love you. I went from "Kill now" to "laughing my ass off" in a moment

/thanks :)

You took it in a totally different direction that I would have expected.


In what respect, doglover?
 
2012-08-21 09:12:46 AM  

Makh: Legitimate rape: It's a pretty effective birth control. No need for condoms. On the rare chance it works, it produces wonderful people.


Two kids is enough for us so my wife and I practice legitimate rape as our form of birth control.
 
2012-08-21 09:17:22 AM  
Rapepublicans?
 
2012-08-21 09:17:23 AM  

Biological Ali: rocky_howard: Are you dense? There's also variations on homicide:

That's because "homicide" is a very broad term that can refer to plenty of things that aren't crimes at all - in contrast with rape, which is by definition a crime. You won't see anybody talking about "justifiable rape" or "rape committed in self-defense" or what have you.


Don't forget Florida's "Stand Your Ground" protections on raping.
 
2012-08-21 09:17:39 AM  

Salt Lick Steady: In what respect, doglover?


I wasn't expecting a customer for the Die CoTM Baby Catapult* by the end of the post. Maybe something more passive aggressive or mournful.


*Not for babies.
 
2012-08-21 09:19:32 AM  

doglover: Salt Lick Steady: In what respect, doglover?

I wasn't expecting a customer for the Die CoTM Baby Catapult* by the end of the post. Maybe something more passive aggressive or mournful.


*Not for babies.


Oh my god I'm crying now

/stomach... hurts
 
2012-08-21 09:19:53 AM  

mrshowrules: Biological Ali: rocky_howard: Are you dense? There's also variations on homicide:

That's because "homicide" is a very broad term that can refer to plenty of things that aren't crimes at all - in contrast with rape, which is by definition a crime. You won't see anybody talking about "justifiable rape" or "rape committed in self-defense" or what have you.

Don't forget Florida's "Stand Your Ground" protections on raping.


As in "she was giving me slutty looks, so I raped her in self defense"?
 
2012-08-21 09:19:59 AM  

indylaw: At the risk of sounding like I agree with these morons, I think there is a distinction in the public mind between "consensual sex" between an 18 and a 15 year old vs. having sex with a girl after you both got plastered at a party vs. beating a woman and forcibly penetrating her and leaving her for dead in an alley.


The thing is, except for statutory rape (which is a whole different topic), rape is rape. Turn it around, and you have rape (what's being called "forcible rape") vs "fake rape".
But there's no distinction. Fundies like to pretend there is one because they like blaming the victim.
 
2012-08-21 09:21:16 AM  
Well clearly he's just a dog. All he knows is "ball", and "good".... And "rape".
 
2012-08-21 09:22:10 AM  

verbaltoxin: Call me a cynic, but I grew up there and I saw these folks at work everyday. If anything, be hopeful they have to send people out to keep the converted in line. If more of them were like your dad, the GOP would be in for a world of hurt not just this fall, but many elections after.

It's like how the right was surprised at the backlash coming from women in the party back when the whole, forcible rape bill first came up, and Congress was having hearing on the pill like it was 1955 again. They didn't understand how even some conservative women have their limits with authoritarianism, and those women remembered what it felt like to be able to have some protection for the first time, and they thought of their daughters and granddaughters, and realized what the men were trying to do. So what did the GOP do? They had to dredge up Sarah Palin, Dana Loesch and Michelle Bachmann to try and get the true believin' ladies to pipe down, lest this whole election becomes a referendum on reproductive rights - a fight the GOP knows they can't win, no matter how much PAC money gets spent.

Funny thing is, they got so close to making it fade from view, and they were starting to craft a somewhat effective message against Obama and the economy. Sure it was reality-defying still, for the economy is recovering, albeit slowly, but at least it played to Republican strengths, because hey, conservatives love money, and they hate taxes.

Then Todd Akin had to open his yapper on the local news, and it went viral. He might not have just blown his chances at a Senate seat here, is what I'm saying.


Just wait until they trot out that old biatch Phyllis Schlafly to apologize for Akin.

Aw hell no.. looks like she already did.

Link

Republicans: "We defend the indefensable-even if it's rape-rape!"
 
2012-08-21 09:22:19 AM  
In the comments, one poster is shocked that anyone could conceive of an illegitimate rape. I don't think our objections to the idiocy of Akin's comment should make us deny that there are absolutely instances where consensual sex has occurred and rape was claimed afterwards. The claim against the Duke Lacrosse team and Tawana Brawley come to mind, and of course there are others. This isn't really the point, the point is his completely unsupportable assertion that in the case of actual rape that a woman's body is less likely to get pregnant, so that one can determine if she consented or not based upon whether pregnancy occurred.

I think the basic idea that a zygote should be afforded the same rights as a living person to be ridiculous, but at least Huckabee is consistent if he believes the opposite. Still, you would think once a person has to justify telling a woman who was raped that she must carry the baby to term that they have lost all grasp on the matter and are purely arguing out of an attempt to be consistent with a position while ignoring the reality of it. If men could get pregnant by rape, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
 
2012-08-21 09:23:21 AM  

Irving Maimway: Holy fark he really said that.

And again with the "forcible" rape? WTF does that even mean? How can there be variations on rape?? I really don't understand this mindset, unless it's the whole "Well, she was asking for it by the way she was dressed that horrible tramp" theory.

//Don't want to live on this planet anymore.


Back when I was married, I built a couple pair of speakers.
Whenever I finished a pair, I'd bring them in the house, hook them up and put on Aerosmith's "Sweet Emotion".
Both times, my wife (at the time) raped me, but it wasn't forcible.
Like most rapes, these went unreported.
In fact, if I'd built more speakers I might still be married.
 
2012-08-21 09:23:41 AM  

WhiskeyBoy: Even as a Republican working for the USG in the political arena, I will say this was just about the stupidest thing I've ever heard a politician say, ever. And I mean publicly or privately. It's just even worse that he said it publicly. And worse yet that Huckabee has jumped on board with his own crazy-ass brand of approval. I would love to be a fly on the wall in the Romney camp right about now. But there's a lot of "why don't Republicans chastise these comments!!!! RAWR!!!" Well, take a look through the twitter feeds, the blogosphere, hell even the WSJ today had an article with handfulls of Republicans telling Akin to get the f*ck out kindly step aside. I don't care what party you belong to, any and all reasonable human beings will very quickly let you know just how wrong you can be when it comes to this subject. And they have.


What's creepy to me is that in response to this blowback, there are members of the GOP who's strategy isn't "get the fark away from this conversation as quickly as possible", but rather, "I bet we can convince these peons that we're right."

All GOP? Nope. And it's good to hear from one on that side of the fence who recognizes this for what it is. But that anyone can stand up and be all "Well, really he's kind of right if you turn your head like this and squint." is farking disgusting.

These are the assholes who think that the primary goal of being a Republican is to piss of the libs.

Mission accomplished. This conversation *legitimately* pisses me off.
 
2012-08-21 09:24:03 AM  

andrewagill: That said, I think Huckabee's argument is valid. Saying ``Rape is a terrible thing but abortion would only compound what is terrible'' is much better than saying, ``Well, in some cases rape's bad, but it's rare that you'll get pregnant, so piss off if you get pregnant from rape.''


Better, not necessarily valid. The "forcible rape" categorizing weakens it. It also neglects that there are plenty of monsters that have been born from rape, as there are from consensual sex. Ted Bundy's family believes that he was born from his abusive grandfather's incestuous relationship with Bundy's teenage mother.

The fact is someone who has been raped has had all their rights over their own body heinously violated, and now the Republicans want to legislate that for women, forever.

Fark that noise.
 
2012-08-21 09:25:31 AM  

Guntram Shatterhand: The amazing thing is how many of the Republican Party are coming out to defend this guy. Okay, it's Hickabee and the Chick-Fil-A people, but really? Are we at the point in the white male insecurity tour that they're justifying rape now?


I'm going to steal that-
White Male Insecurity tour.

/band name
 
2012-08-21 09:26:12 AM  

RussianPooper: In the comments, one poster is shocked that anyone could conceive of an illegitimate rape. I don't think our objections to the idiocy of Akin's comment should make us deny that there are absolutely instances where consensual sex has occurred and rape was claimed afterwards. The claim against the Duke Lacrosse team and Tawana Brawley come to mind, and of course there are others. This isn't really the point, the point is his completely unsupportable assertion that in the case of actual rape that a woman's body is less likely to get pregnant, so that one can determine if she consented or not based upon whether pregnancy occurred.

I think the basic idea that a zygote should be afforded the same rights as a living person to be ridiculous, but at least Huckabee is consistent if he believes the opposite. Still, you would think once a person has to justify telling a woman who was raped that she must carry the baby to term that they have lost all grasp on the matter and are purely arguing out of an attempt to be consistent with a position while ignoring the reality of it. If men could get pregnant by rape, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.


I agree with you 111%.

/to think i voted for the idiot in 2008.
 
2012-08-21 09:27:08 AM  
Mike Huckabee would like to remind you that rape has created some extraordinary people

Take Jesus for example.
 
2012-08-21 09:27:43 AM  

RussianPooper: I don't think our objections to the idiocy of Akin's comment should make us deny that there are absolutely instances where consensual sex has occurred and rape was claimed afterwards.


His apology all revolves around the word "legitimate" and the religious nutters who support him are trying to make the conversation about that part of his statements. It's actually a pretty shrewd move to control the narrative.
 
2012-08-21 09:27:56 AM  
i367.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-21 09:27:59 AM  
Didn't Huckabee's son forcibly, yet lovingly, rape a basset hound?
 
2012-08-21 09:29:31 AM  

RussianPooper: If men could get pregnant by rape, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.


If men could get pregnant, the abortion debate would have been over as soon as they invented abortion.
 
2012-08-21 09:29:38 AM  
Do you know how else was the product of rape?

Hitler.
 
2012-08-21 09:29:40 AM  

GF named my left testicle thundercles: [i367.photobucket.com image 640x532]


damnit why does fark do that? hopefully works this time.

i36.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-21 09:29:50 AM  

REO-Weedwagon: Didn't Huckabee's son forcibly, yet lovingly, rape a basset hound?


But that biatch deserved it!
 
2012-08-21 09:33:07 AM  

cc_rider: verbaltoxin: Call me a cynic, but I grew up there and I saw these folks at work everyday. If anything, be hopeful they have to send people out to keep the converted in line. If more of them were like your dad, the GOP would be in for a world of hurt not just this fall, but many elections after.

It's like how the right was surprised at the backlash coming from women in the party back when the whole, forcible rape bill first came up, and Congress was having hearing on the pill like it was 1955 again. They didn't understand how even some conservative women have their limits with authoritarianism, and those women remembered what it felt like to be able to have some protection for the first time, and they thought of their daughters and granddaughters, and realized what the men were trying to do. So what did the GOP do? They had to dredge up Sarah Palin, Dana Loesch and Michelle Bachmann to try and get the true believin' ladies to pipe down, lest this whole election becomes a referendum on reproductive rights - a fight the GOP knows they can't win, no matter how much PAC money gets spent.

Funny thing is, they got so close to making it fade from view, and they were starting to craft a somewhat effective message against Obama and the economy. Sure it was reality-defying still, for the economy is recovering, albeit slowly, but at least it played to Republican strengths, because hey, conservatives love money, and they hate taxes.

Then Todd Akin had to open his yapper on the local news, and it went viral. He might not have just blown his chances at a Senate seat here, is what I'm saying.

Just wait until they trot out that old biatch Phyllis Schlafly to apologize for Akin.

Aw hell no.. looks like she already did.

Link

Republicans: "We defend the indefensable-even if it's rape-rape!"


So far it's Kirk Cameron, Mike Huckabee and now Phyllis Schlafly. Ah and now Deadbart trooper Dana Loesch is in on the act: Link
 
2012-08-21 09:35:01 AM  

GAT_00: Well, I'm pretty sure Jesus qualifies as a child of rape under any definition of the word. I don't think Mary wanted to be pregnant.


Gabriel did ask her permission...
Though, if she said no it would have gone against god's plan, which kind of kills the idea of free will...
If I was pre-destined to be born, did my parents really have free will to choose to hook up?
 
2012-08-21 09:37:07 AM  

stonicus: GAT_00: Well, I'm pretty sure Jesus qualifies as a child of rape under any definition of the word. I don't think Mary wanted to be pregnant.

Gabriel did ask her permission...
Though, if she said no it would have gone against god's plan, which kind of kills the idea of free will...
If I was pre-destined to be born, did my parents really have free will to choose to hook up?


Actually no. Gabe showed up and said, "God is gunna tap your ass" and Mary was like "if he must", and just let it happen.
 
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