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2012-08-21 07:37:07 AM  
The amazing thing is how many of the Republican Party are coming out to defend this guy. Okay, it's Hickabee and the Chick-Fil-A people, but really? Are we at the point in the white male insecurity tour that they're justifying rape now?
 
2012-08-21 07:37:43 AM  
Chastity belts are the answer!
If a woman does not want to be raped she should be wearing a chastity belt. Only her husband or father (if she is not married) should have the key. This would stop her from getting pregnant during a rape. If she is not wearing a chastity belt then it must have been an illegitimate rape?

Will they be handing out chastity belts at the RNC? or do they not care about their women?
 
2012-08-21 07:40:34 AM  
Can a tax return be raped?
That would explain why Mittens is protecting them.
 
2012-08-21 07:45:34 AM  

MythDragon: Bonus:
If you GIS 'rape' and 'Japan', you get this gem.
3.bp.blogspot.com



The green vegetable in the back of the octopi is a stalk of rape flower.

Don't know what rape flower is? Look into what "canola" really means. It will blow your mind. Also, you'll finally understand why there's 40lbs of it a box.
 
2012-08-21 07:46:35 AM  

Karac: anyone who sexts is an idiot


the fark is this shiat
 
2012-08-21 07:46:41 AM  
The whole "forcible rape" (legitimate rape according to Akin) is a way to ban abortion. Akin, Ryan and many other GOP Reps all cosponsored a bill to ban abortion except in cases of forcible rape. However, since Akin and others claim that you can't get pregnant from forcible rape, then all abortions are illegal (since if you're pregnant, it wasn't "real, legitimate rape").

His views are reprehensible - but he he can distract you long enough, his views will be the law of the land. He's not just a loon, he's a loon with legislative authority.
 
2012-08-21 07:53:31 AM  

Private_Citizen: The whole "forcible rape" (legitimate rape according to Akin) is a way to ban abortion. Akin, Ryan and many other GOP Reps all cosponsored a bill to ban abortion except in cases of forcible rape. However, since Akin and others claim that you can't get pregnant from forcible rape, then all abortions are illegal (since if you're pregnant, it wasn't "real, legitimate rape").

His views are reprehensible - but he he can distract you long enough, his views will be the law of the land. He's not just a loon, he's a loon with legislative authority.


He's a loon whose views are held by the current Republican VP nominee, who was handpicked by their Presidential candidate. Which means that the Republicans want to reduce women's rights to a historical footnote. This alone shows just how farked the Republicans really are. At this point, we should probably start considering immigrating women out of red states because this behavior is inexcusable.
 
2012-08-21 08:00:08 AM  
Rape has killed some extraordinary people.
 
2012-08-21 08:03:20 AM  
Dropping atomic bombs on Japan gave us some extraordinary scientific and philosophical insight. So let's get back to it. HUP HUP
 
2012-08-21 08:04:05 AM  
The more you rape,the more you reap.
 
2012-08-21 08:07:49 AM  

Irving Maimway: And again with the "forcible" rape? WTF does that even mean? How can there be variations on rape??


At the risk of sounding like I agree with these morons, I think there is a distinction in the public mind between "consensual sex" between an 18 and a 15 year old vs. having sex with a girl after you both got plastered at a party vs. beating a woman and forcibly penetrating her and leaving her for dead in an alley.

All of those are rape under various definitions, but they're not the same flavor of crime.

The galling thing was not that Akin used the term "legitimate rape," so much as he implied that if you're pregnant it's because you didn't do enough to fight off your rapist and you must have really wanted it (you slut). Given that the standard actual (vs. stated) justification for banning abortion in this country is that it punishes sluts - that's why all but the staunchest opponents would allow abortion in the cases of rape or incest - what Akin was doing was blaming the victims. If you got pregnant after you got raped, you must have kinda liked it or you would have struggled and your body would have rejected the pregnancy... slut.
 
2012-08-21 08:13:17 AM  
Could somebody explain to me again why I'm supposed to think the republicans have any respect for women or minorities when every time one of them says something insanely idiotic and offensive in regards to one of those two groups a whole bunch of others come out and say "well, yea, that was bad, but...."?

Normal, well-adjusted decent people don't come out and say "well, sure, he thinks one of the humors of the female body is anti-spermicidal and it sure sounds like the implication was that a rape victim who gets pregnant wasn't really raped, BUT sometimes awesome people are born after a rape!"

That's not normal. That's just another small window into the minds of people who think violence against women isn't really much different than slamming a door when you're mad.
 
2012-08-21 08:15:12 AM  

rocky_howard: KiplingKat872: I guess you were asleep through all the GHB/Rohypnol drug rapes.

Keep on point. Nobody's talking about that. And I mentioned Rohypnol first than anyone on this thread and it's obviously rape.

Yes, it does happen. No, it does not trivialize rape.

Yes, the term "date rape" trivializes rape. Also, isn't it ironic that we have a whole thread of people complaining and adverb/adjective being used to differentiate rape, yet you insist on doing that?

There's no such thing as date rape. There's just rape. The term "date rape" is trivializing and euphemistic. It also provides rapists with an argument (albeit a weak one), while if you only used "rape" they'd have nothing to get a hold of.

Speaking as a rape survivor, I tend to find the people who use that phrase, "trivializing rape," are usually trying to excuse some scenario or accuse the victims of lying. What truly trivializes rape is people who try to excuse it or blame the victims.

Yeah, I'm sorry you got raped, but your accusations against me are inconsequential and a logical fallacy. Being raped doesn't excuse you from being wrong.


I agree with you about the term "date rape" being trivializing, however you did make a ridiculous assertion that "raping girls passed out at a kegger" did not really happen.

It does. And it is rape.
 
2012-08-21 08:17:04 AM  

WorldCitizen: Irving Maimway: Holy fark he really said that.

And again with the "forcible" rape? WTF does that even mean? How can there be variations on rape?? I really don't understand this mindset, unless it's the whole "Well, she was asking for it by the way she was dressed that horrible tramp" theory.

//Don't want to live on this planet anymore.

I don't want to any way defend these farkers, but I think they are "trying" to make the distinction from statutory rape.


historically, its only "forcible" rape if the woman is battered, and vocally fought against the attaker. Court cases would hinge on whether or not the woman fought "enough."

thats why the whole "no means no" campaign is such a big deal. it's supposed to teach that if she says no AT ALL, thats enough.
 
2012-08-21 08:17:13 AM  
"Forcible" rape. Huckabee, you're an asshole.
 
2012-08-21 08:17:41 AM  

Irving Maimway: And again with the "forcible" rape? WTF does that even mean? How can there be variations on rape?? I really don't understand this mindset, unless it's the whole "Well, she was asking for it by the way she was dressed that horrible tramp" theory.


That's exactly what it is. Forceable rape is when "respectable" or ugly women get raped. Everything else is sluts asking for it and boys being boys.
 
2012-08-21 08:18:01 AM  

KiplingKat872: I agree with you about the term "date rape" being trivializing


Cool.

however you did make a ridiculous assertion that "raping girls passed out at a kegger" did not really happen.

Hey, that's not what I said, now keep reading my posts to find the answer to that :)

*fistbump*
 
2012-08-21 08:18:28 AM  

fusillade762: I wonder what their stance on this would be if rape always produced gay babies?


Well, they can't be aborted; that would be a sin. So you have to give birth, then immediately put the kid in a "straight education camp" so he can learn to be attracted to girls like a "normal" person.

Then, when he's a teenager and starting to like girls, make him take virginity and anti-masturbation pledges. Later in college, he'll be bursting with God's love - so much that he'll grab he first girl he sees at a frat party, non-forcibly rape her in accordance with God's Plan, and impregnate her with another extraordinary Christian Warrior.
 
2012-08-21 08:18:45 AM  
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Was it rape or rape rape?
 
2012-08-21 08:18:48 AM  

indylaw: Irving Maimway: And again with the "forcible" rape? WTF does that even mean? How can there be variations on rape??

At the risk of sounding like I agree with these morons, I think there is a distinction in the public mind between "consensual sex" between an 18 and a 15 year old vs. having sex with a girl after you both got plastered at a party vs. beating a woman and forcibly penetrating her and leaving her for dead in an alley.

All of those are rape under various definitions, but they're not the same flavor of crime.

The galling thing was not that Akin used the term "legitimate rape," so much as he implied that if you're pregnant it's because you didn't do enough to fight off your rapist and you must have really wanted it (you slut). Given that the standard actual (vs. stated) justification for banning abortion in this country is that it punishes sluts - that's why all but the staunchest opponents would allow abortion in the cases of rape or incest - what Akin was doing was blaming the victims. If you got pregnant after you got raped, you must have kinda liked it or you would have struggled and your body would have rejected the pregnancy... slut.


Hrm. I'm of a similar mind, with some differences.

Akin is trying to put a bill through that would outlaw all abortion excepting only for mother health issues. Rape? Suck it up, have the kid. Now, 75% of americans, republicans included, are *not* cool with this. That's why there's another version that allows abortion for "forcible rape", Now, what I believe Akin is doing is trying to redefine "forcible rape". He tried to say that pregnancy was impossible in those cases. Therefore, even if he lost on his version of the bill, the one where abortion was allowed for pregnancies resulting in forcible rape wouldn't matter, because under his twisted worldview, pregnancies as a result of forcible rape are impossible.

This cocksucker is literally trying to redefine reality in order to force his abhorrent version of morality through legislation.
 
2012-08-21 08:19:09 AM  
Clicked the link, hoping he would have said "Hey, don't think that just because the baby came from rape it can't be born and be awesome. Do what you feel is right, just know the baby had nothing to do with how it was created.

Nope. "forceable rape" wagrahbaleble.

*sigh*
 
2012-08-21 08:23:00 AM  

indylaw:
The galling thing was not that Akin used the term "legitimate rape," so much as he implied that if you're pregnant it's because you didn't do enough to fight off your rapist and you must have really wanted it (you slut). Given that the standard actual (vs. stated) justification for banning abortion in this country is that it punishes sluts - that's why all but the staunchest opponents would allow abortion in the cases of rape or incest - what Akin was doing was blaming the victims. If you got pregnant after you got raped, you must have kinda liked it or you would have struggled and your body would have rejected the pregnancy... slut.


After watching Rachel Maddow talk about this and walk through the history of this position, it's not the minority in the GOP anymore. They're all about punishing sluts and the gays. Barry Goldwater and Ike are spinning in their graves.
 
2012-08-21 08:26:28 AM  
What we need is a "Freedom from religion" bill. One that states, explicitly, that legislation made purely for religious reasons, regardless of religion, is prohibited. Nail that sucker so tight that not even the slimiest politician could find a hole to worm through.
 
2012-08-21 08:27:07 AM  

slayer199: These clowns need to STFU...they're clearly insane.


Mitt Romney has a posse.
 
2012-08-21 08:29:12 AM  

dletter: Hey GOP..... I'm trying to run a campaign here... you think you can go 2 days without talking about rape? Thanks.


"Now, where we're we? Oh ...

"As I was saying, Obama's tax plan is a job-killer. Under his plan, millions of Americans will have to fire 3-4 of their butlers, and scale down to only 2 new Bentleys a week ..."
 
2012-08-21 08:30:58 AM  

WorldCitizen: Irving Maimway: Holy fark he really said that.

And again with the "forcible" rape? WTF does that even mean? How can there be variations on rape?? I really don't understand this mindset, unless it's the whole "Well, she was asking for it by the way she was dressed that horrible tramp" theory.

//Don't want to live on this planet anymore.

I don't want to any way defend these farkers, but I think they are "trying" to make the distinction from statutory rape.


Too bad there isn't a legal distinction for statutory rape that would handle this rigamarole. Oh well. We'll have to leave the definitions in the hands of pundits. That sucks.
 
2012-08-21 08:31:14 AM  

FlyingLizardOfDoom: So society is better off if people keep on raping?


That's what Mike said.

Since he is a leader we should all do as he says.

I am building a rape kit now.

Duct tape.... check
Rope.... check
Van down by the river .... check
 
2012-08-21 08:32:09 AM  

Cpl.D: This cocksucker is literally trying to redefine reality in order to force his abhorrent version of morality through legislation.


You say it like it's an uncommon thing.

This same bullshiat has been around since some poor schlub in the mason's guild had Hamurabi march into his office and and say "Now take these rules down."

The difference between this law and most other laws is that this guy is proposing an especially stupid law. But the methodolgy he's using is very orthodox. How else do you think we got all the anti-smoking laws passed and yet you can still buy incense or SUVs legally?


Never assume that just because someone you dislike does something you dislike that they are automatically using a faulty strategy. That's how battles are lost and dicks like this guy get their nasty bills passed.
 
2012-08-21 08:32:34 AM  

Cpl.D: This cocksucker is literally trying to redefine reality in order to force his abhorrent version of morality through legislation.


And oddly, the entire GOP seems to be working to help him do just that.
 
2012-08-21 08:33:59 AM  
Remember that whole, "war on women" thing a while back, and how all the Farkcon shills were like, "NO THERE ISN'T! SHUT UP! IT DOESN'T MATTER ANYWAY! IT'S ONLY SPRING!!"

Thanks, Todd Akin, for bringing that back into the news again. In August. With the election only 3 months away.
 
2012-08-21 08:35:37 AM  
what if the rape rate goes up in Missouri because of his comments. hey dudes, lets go a rapin, the biatch wont get pregnant!
 
2012-08-21 08:35:55 AM  
if you ever find yourself arguing the merits of rape, something is very wrong with your line of thinking
 
2012-08-21 08:36:18 AM  

Irving Maimway: Holy fark he really said that.

And again with the "forcible" rape? WTF does that even mean? How can there be variations on rape?? I really don't understand this mindset, unless it's the whole "Well, she was asking for it by the way she was dressed that horrible tramp" theory.

//Don't want to live on this planet anymore.


Pretty much. It seems like they view stuff like statutory rape or where the victim was incapacitated as situations where the victim is at fault. That is pretty sickening. There will be no exceptions for rape in the GOP platform either meaning as a party they agree no matter what their talking heads and candidates say.

You would think that when an official party stance gets explained in non-legalese as it did by Todd Akin and it gains such universal scorn, it might be time to change it. Not the GOP.
 
2012-08-21 08:37:20 AM  
Oh thank god I've been in the middle of nowhere for the past couple days and only just read about this...
 
2012-08-21 08:37:23 AM  

GAT_00: Well, I'm pretty sure Jesus qualifies as a child of rape under any definition of the word. I don't think Mary wanted to be pregnant.


Yeah, but have you seen how she dressed? She was totally asking for it.
 
2012-08-21 08:38:33 AM  
Mike Huckabee is just jealous that he couldn't give birth to those extraordinary people himself. You women should consider yourself lucky that you have that opportunity.
 
2012-08-21 08:38:45 AM  

libranoelrose: DjangoStonereaver: [www.islamicinvitationturkey.com image 460x288]

Approves.

/This is what the Tea Party Taliban wants America to become.

Does that guy know that pinky rings are a sign of the homosexuals?


3.bp.blogspot.com  What'd you say?
 
2012-08-21 08:38:46 AM  
Even as a Republican working for the USG in the political arena, I will say this was just about the stupidest thing I've ever heard a politician say, ever. And I mean publicly or privately. It's just even worse that he said it publicly. And worse yet that Huckabee has jumped on board with his own crazy-ass brand of approval. I would love to be a fly on the wall in the Romney camp right about now. But there's a lot of "why don't Republicans chastise these comments!!!! RAWR!!!" Well, take a look through the twitter feeds, the blogosphere, hell even the WSJ today had an article with handfulls of Republicans telling Akin to get the f*ck out kindly step aside. I don't care what party you belong to, any and all reasonable human beings will very quickly let you know just how wrong you can be when it comes to this subject. And they have.
 
2012-08-21 08:41:28 AM  
America, in 2012, has had representatives of a major party defend rape and the reprehensible comments made about it by an ignorant moron.

They are defending rape. And even worse, there is a large number of people ready to defend it with them. Just like the stupid chicken idiot, these morons will make asses of themselves. fark them, fark Huckabee and fark the Republican party. Pieces of shiat dressed as humans.
 
2012-08-21 08:41:43 AM  

doglover: MythDragon: Bonus:
If you GIS 'rape' and 'Japan', you get this gem.
3.bp.blogspot.com


The green vegetable in the back of the octopi is a stalk of rape flower.

Don't know what rape flower is? Look into what "canola" really means. It will blow your mind. Also, you'll finally understand why there's 40lbs of it a box.


Interesting.
To YOU, good sir, for advancing our knowledge. I am humbled by you.

chzgifs.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-08-21 08:41:47 AM  

heavymetal: Irving Maimway: Holy fark he really said that.

And again with the "forcible" rape? WTF does that even mean? How can there be variations on rape?? I really don't understand this mindset, unless it's the whole "Well, she was asking for it by the way she was dressed that horrible tramp" theory.

//Don't want to live on this planet anymore.

Pretty much. It seems like they view stuff like statutory rape or where the victim was incapacitated as situations where the victim is at fault. That is pretty sickening. There will be no exceptions for rape in the GOP platform either meaning as a party they agree no matter what their talking heads and candidates say.

You would think that when an official party stance gets explained in non-legalese as it did by Todd Akin and it gains such universal scorn, it might be time to change it. Not the GOP.


They've lost control of their message aka The NarrativeTM. I was listening to NPR last week, and there was a woman on there explaining why there's no liberal Ayn Rand. The reasons are apparent to most of us here probably, but the short version is that conservatives spent decades creating an intricate, reinforced narrative they could use to gain traction. Now that message is a monster and it's stomped off into the village.
 
2012-08-21 08:43:05 AM  

WhiskeyBoy: Even as a Republican working for the USG in the political arena, I will say this was just about the stupidest thing I've ever heard a politician say, ever. And I mean publicly or privately. It's just even worse that he said it publicly. And worse yet that Huckabee has jumped on board with his own crazy-ass brand of approval. I would love to be a fly on the wall in the Romney camp right about now. But there's a lot of "why don't Republicans chastise these comments!!!! RAWR!!!" Well, take a look through the twitter feeds, the blogosphere, hell even the WSJ today had an article with handfulls of Republicans telling Akin to get the f*ck out kindly step aside. I don't care what party you belong to, any and all reasonable human beings will very quickly let you know just how wrong you can be when it comes to this subject. And they have.


You are correct. And I do appreciate that.
 
2012-08-21 08:44:06 AM  
1.bp.blogspot.com

Take it easy, GOP. Why don't you sit this next one out, stop talking for a while.
 
2012-08-21 08:45:09 AM  

WhiskeyBoy: Even as a Republican working for the USG in the political arena, I will say this was just about the stupidest thing I've ever heard a politician say, ever.


as a dyed in the wool liberal, I laughed at him and called him a moron and thought that would be the end of it. then I see that it put Romney under the microscope and the abortion issue brought to the forefront and thought, ok, that's a bit much, until I saw that Akin and Ryan are joined at the hip, and then laughed more. anyway, thats a tldr of me saying I agree with you.
 
2012-08-21 08:46:34 AM  
Republicans are such complete pussies. When you're got former major presidential candidates, the farking current vice-presidential candidate, and damn near the entire house GOP co-signing a bill redefining what rape is, you're party has some farked up values.

The second these pussies get called on it, they slither away and whine about "gotcha journalism." Own this shiat you pussies. Moreso for all your farking idiots that continue to vote GOP because of jesus or some other shiat.

Pussies. Every single one of you.
 
2012-08-21 08:50:08 AM  
Now if the rapist would just marry the victim and be a father to the rape baby like the bible says he's supposed to, all will be well.
 
2012-08-21 08:50:29 AM  
I am seriously loving how this keeps coming back up, and it's not like us liberals are doing it. The GOP just can't f*cking help but say stupid sh*t about sex. Keep at it, you dumbf*cks. It's only August now, I'm sure you can blow a few more, in the bag Senate and Congressional races before this is over.
 
2012-08-21 08:50:33 AM  
Fark Republicans, that is all
 
2012-08-21 08:50:37 AM  
I guess I'll just throw this out there.

Having flashbacks of a rape, or having someone even remind you of it, can send an otherwise stable person into ptsd mode. I'm shaking and stabby right now reading a damn fark thread about it. I can't even imagine the life of the "typical" person who grew up as a product of rape, but I can personally say that such product wouldn't have made it many years before it was dead and I was in prison.
 
2012-08-21 08:50:48 AM  

Private_Citizen: The whole "forcible rape" (legitimate rape according to Akin) is a way to ban abortion. Akin, Ryan and many other GOP Reps all cosponsored a bill to ban abortion except in cases of forcible rape. However, since Akin and others claim that you can't get pregnant from forcible rape, then all abortions are illegal (since if you're pregnant, it wasn't "real, legitimate rape").

His views are reprehensible - but he he can distract you long enough, his views will be the law of the land. He's not just a loon, he's a loon with legislative authority.


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