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2012-08-21 06:02:00 AM  

FlyingLizardOfDoom: So society is better off if people keep on raping?


hallelujah!
 
2012-08-21 06:05:09 AM  

dickfreckle: Also, I agree with other Farkers about being annoyed by this whole "forcible" thing. Rape is rape, Do we say "green asparagus?" "Red cabernet?" Is the use of "forcible" being used to imply that some rape is less rapey than others?


Some people are saying statutory rape isn't (necessarily) forcible. But raping a statue would require a lot of force.
 
2012-08-21 06:14:31 AM  

LordOfThePings: Some people are saying statutory rape isn't (necessarily) forcible. But raping a statue would require a lot of force.


Yeah, but they can't consent, so it's always rape.
 
2012-08-21 06:14:42 AM  
Well, as much as I hate giving the guy any credit, at least he is TRYING to be morally consistent with the position that abortion = killing babies, not just punishing women for farking.
 
2012-08-21 06:15:10 AM  

slayer199: These clowns need to STFU...they're clearly insane.


Would you say that they form a posse?

/sorry
 
2012-08-21 06:16:16 AM  
Ok..... for the last time. It is simple.

There is rape...

.... and there is rape rape.
 
2012-08-21 06:24:19 AM  
i471.photobucket.com

"The first 8 inches were consensual."
 
2012-08-21 06:24:38 AM  

drxym: Kind of silly extol the good children without mentioning the bad. Rape has doubtless created murderers, psychopaths, and criminals of every kind and I suspect in greater percentages than other children. That would be partly through the manner women are forced to bring up an unloved offspring or send it into care and partly due to inheriting the bad genes of their scumbag lowlife father.


If there's any chance of anything good coming of it, you have to do it. Unless "it" is foodstamps, or affirmative action, or paid maternity leave, or health care, or ...
 
2012-08-21 06:29:49 AM  
cdn.hometheaterforum.com
 
2012-08-21 06:32:22 AM  
Poetic , twisted justice would be to have the biggest nastiest jailed rapist rape Huckabee's and Akin's daughters and grand daughters.

Then deny then the morning after pill.
 
2012-08-21 06:34:28 AM  

PsychoLaurie: I was raped by my friendʻs brother one night


... you're friends with Mike Huckabee's siblings? I don't understand
 
2012-08-21 06:36:44 AM  
Yet more proof that Neanderthals did not go extinct.
 
2012-08-21 06:38:40 AM  
cdn01.dailycaller.com

"Hell, my own son is a product of forcible rape, and he tortures animals like nobody's business. That's winning! Now watch this lick."
 
2012-08-21 06:39:24 AM  

Gordon Bennett: If she gets pregnant then she's the one who chose to ruin her life being a single mother. Stupid biatch. He has important things to do in life and can't afford to be saddled down with some brat.


She probably faked the whole thing just to collect child support! It's a good thing his father has a friend who's a judge
 
2012-08-21 06:42:46 AM  
So.... He's saying go out and rape some biatches, right?
 
2012-08-21 06:43:39 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: So.... He's saying go out and rape some biatches, right?


For Jesus.
 
2012-08-21 06:47:54 AM  
"Ethel Waters, for example, was the result of a forcible rape,"

these dumb mother farkers still don't get it do they?

Was there some right wing nut job meeting where they decided it was a big deal to try and make peopelt hink there were different categories of rape?
 
2012-08-21 06:49:59 AM  

dickfreckle: And so I know it happens, and yet even from those horrible, horrible tragedies of rape, which are inexcusable and indefensible, life has come and sometimes, you know, those people are able to do extraordinary things."

I love this. He makes sure that he adequately decries rape before, in so many words, telling you that maybe you should just accept it,

Also, I agree with other Farkers about being annoyed by this whole "forcible" thing. Rape is rape, Do we say "green asparagus?" "Red cabernet?" Is the use of "forcible" being used to imply that some rape is less rapey than others? What difference is there in assaulting a passed out college girl at a kegger and physically holding her down while she's awake? The end result is the same.


Please stop this. Not just you, everyone.

This kind of trivialization is what creates such confusion in the first place and gives ammo to the rape apologists since the scenario painted with such simple words is cognitively dissonant. Stop with the trivial examples or the idiotic terms as "date rape". Use language appropriately. No need to create cool terms or sound-bytes to be repeated ad nauseam.

"Date rape" just perpetuates both the idea that "hey, it was a date, I should have gotten mine" and the "omg I kinda didn't want to do this guy, but I did and now I regret it." It's way too ambiguous and light a term for anyone to take seriously. She was forced, she was drugged, none of this cutesy terms.

Ditto for the "passed out girl at a kegger". Has that actually happened? I'm pretty sure it has happened since we're 7 billion people on the planet and law of big numbers applies, but is it really a prevalent scenario? Because that just contributes to two things. 1 people dismiss it because, really? does that happen? You see a passed out body at a party and you have sex with that? and 2 it's just a sound byte that's become a stereotype and you have people arguing against stuff that probably doesn't even happen.
 
2012-08-21 06:50:56 AM  
These people have lost their damned minds... "Forcible" rape. As opposed to?

I love how the GOP is now trying to throw up a smoke screen that Akin's views are outside of the mainstream GOP view and they're all so offended by them. Bullshiat. The only thing these assholes are offended by is the fact he put a vital Senate seat in jeopardy by saying what many Republicans believe but know the vast majority of the American public find disgusting these days.

Republicans have been spouting this kind of nonsense since the 80s, at least.


Oh, and...

sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2012-08-21 06:52:14 AM  

liam76: "Ethel Waters, for example, was the result of a forcible rape,"

these dumb mother farkers still don't get it do they?

Was there some right wing nut job meeting where they decided it was a big deal to try and make peopelt hink there were different categories of rape?


He's probably trying to differentiate between raping someone by drugging/forcing them and just having sex with a kid (which is rape by law since a minor can't consent, but there wasn't force involved).
 
2012-08-21 06:52:57 AM  

FlyingLizardOfDoom: So society is better off if people keep on raping?


Huck sure didn't mind when some doc raped him of his 2nd stomach under the knife in surgery.

/farkin' dirtball mouthbreathers
//want to stop abortion? Fine, pony up the money to raise, educate, feed, clothe, house these kids you don't give a sh*t at all about once they are brought to life
 
2012-08-21 06:55:26 AM  

rocky_howard: dickfreckle: And so I know it happens, and yet even from those horrible, horrible tragedies of rape, which are inexcusable and indefensible, life has come and sometimes, you know, those people are able to do extraordinary things."

I love this. He makes sure that he adequately decries rape before, in so many words, telling you that maybe you should just accept it,

Also, I agree with other Farkers about being annoyed by this whole "forcible" thing. Rape is rape, Do we say "green asparagus?" "Red cabernet?" Is the use of "forcible" being used to imply that some rape is less rapey than others? What difference is there in assaulting a passed out college girl at a kegger and physically holding her down while she's awake? The end result is the same.

Please stop this. Not just you, everyone.

This kind of trivialization is what creates such confusion in the first place and gives ammo to the rape apologists since the scenario painted with such simple words is cognitively dissonant. Stop with the trivial examples or the idiotic terms as "date rape". Use language appropriately. No need to create cool terms or sound-bytes to be repeated ad nauseam.

"Date rape" just perpetuates both the idea that "hey, it was a date, I should have gotten mine" and the "omg I kinda didn't want to do this guy, but I did and now I regret it." It's way too ambiguous and light a term for anyone to take seriously. She was forced, she was drugged, none of this cutesy terms.

Ditto for the "passed out girl at a kegger". Has that actually happened? I'm pretty sure it has happened since we're 7 billion people on the planet and law of big numbers applies, but is it really a prevalent scenario? Because that just contributes to two things. 1 people dismiss it because, really? does that happen? You see a passed out body at a party and you have sex with that? and 2 it's just a sound byte that's become a stereotype and you have people arguing against stuff that probably doesn't even happen.


I guess you were asleep through all the GHB/Rohypnol drug rapes.

Yes, it does happen. No, it does not trivialize rape.

Speaking as a rape survivor, I tend to find the people who use that phrase, "trivializing rape," are usually trying to excuse some scenario or accuse the victims of lying. What truly trivializes rape is people who try to excuse it or blame the victims.
 
2012-08-21 06:58:11 AM  
Jesus must sometimes look down on his followers and ask himself was it really worth dying for these wretched buckets of filth.
 
2012-08-21 06:59:43 AM  

LordOfThePings: dickfreckle: Also, I agree with other Farkers about being annoyed by this whole "forcible" thing. Rape is rape, Do we say "green asparagus?" "Red cabernet?" Is the use of "forcible" being used to imply that some rape is less rapey than others?

Some people are saying statutory rape isn't (necessarily) forcible. But raping a statue would require a lot of force.


I get that, but I just figured that everyone already understood that statutory rape is sort of its own legal area.

rocky_howard: This kind of trivialization is what creates such confusion in the first place and gives ammo to the rape apologists since the scenario painted with such simple words is cognitively dissonant. Stop with the trivial examples or the idiotic terms as "date rape". Use language appropriately. No need to create cool terms or sound-bytes to be repeated ad nauseam.

"Date rape" just perpetuates both the idea that "hey, it was a date, I should have gotten mine" and the "omg I kinda didn't want to do this guy, but I did and now I regret it." It's way too ambiguous and light a term for anyone to take seriously. She was forced, she was drugged, none of this cutesy terms.


Did you miss the part where I stated that there's no difference between raping someone who is passed out (or drugged) and forcibly holding the victim down? I wasn't trivializing anything; merely pointing out that rape is rape, and using words like "forcible" to further cloud the issue seems stupid.
 
2012-08-21 07:03:04 AM  

dickfreckle: I get that, but I just figured that everyone already understood that statutory rape is sort of its own legal area


Which is why it's probably unfortunate the word is overloaded with multiple legal meanings, and why the awkwardness of "forcible" might be a required clarification.
 
2012-08-21 07:06:05 AM  
Wow, I mean, wow.. the world sure is a better place for having James Robison around. You mean we couldn't have gotten by without another televangelist?
 
2012-08-21 07:06:20 AM  

KiplingKat872: rocky_howard: dickfreckle: And so I know it happens, and yet even from those horrible, horrible tragedies of rape, which are inexcusable and indefensible, life has come and sometimes, you know, those people are able to do extraordinary things."

I love this. He makes sure that he adequately decries rape before, in so many words, telling you that maybe you should just accept it,

Also, I agree with other Farkers about being annoyed by this whole "forcible" thing. Rape is rape, Do we say "green asparagus?" "Red cabernet?" Is the use of "forcible" being used to imply that some rape is less rapey than others? What difference is there in assaulting a passed out college girl at a kegger and physically holding her down while she's awake? The end result is the same.

Please stop this. Not just you, everyone.

This kind of trivialization is what creates such confusion in the first place and gives ammo to the rape apologists since the scenario painted with such simple words is cognitively dissonant. Stop with the trivial examples or the idiotic terms as "date rape". Use language appropriately. No need to create cool terms or sound-bytes to be repeated ad nauseam.

"Date rape" just perpetuates both the idea that "hey, it was a date, I should have gotten mine" and the "omg I kinda didn't want to do this guy, but I did and now I regret it." It's way too ambiguous and light a term for anyone to take seriously. She was forced, she was drugged, none of this cutesy terms.

Ditto for the "passed out girl at a kegger". Has that actually happened?
...


Yes, it actually happens. It happened to somebody I know back in school. The rapist was the older brother of one of our classmates. But for the record, talking about people who sexually assault drunk or drugged victims does not trivialize rape in any way.

In case you weren't aware, one of America's most notorious rapists in recent times was a filthy-rich trust fund baby, who drugged his victims and videotaped them while he was raping them. Link
 
2012-08-21 07:08:37 AM  
I'm getting a kick out of this thread, because this morning I had a legitimate crepe.

It was delicious.
 
2012-08-21 07:08:39 AM  
Whoops, that was supposed to be for rocky_howard, I quoted the wrong comment. Sorry, K.K.
 
2012-08-21 07:09:07 AM  
prepareformass.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-08-21 07:10:21 AM  

dickfreckle: And so I know it happens, and yet even from those horrible, horrible tragedies of rape, which are inexcusable and indefensible, life has come and sometimes, you know, those people are able to do extraordinary things."

I love this. He makes sure that he adequately decries rape before, in so many words, telling you that maybe you should just accept it,

Also, I agree with other Farkers about being annoyed by this whole "forcible" thing. Rape is rape, Do we say "green asparagus?" "Red cabernet?" Is the use of "forcible" being used to imply that some rape is less rapey than others? What difference is there in assaulting a passed out college girl at a kegger and physically holding her down while she's awake? The end result is the same.


The difference is that some of them truly believe the passed out girl was 'asking' for it by drinking and passing out, because boys cannot help themselves. In fact, even if she was drugged without her knowledge, she was still 'asking' for it because she was going out to a party- instead of staying at home or only going out while escorted by a male such as a trustworthy christian boyfriend or family member, etc. They believe women who leave the home and try to interact with the world at large on their own are only getting what they deserve when they encroach on the territory of men, they should know better and men shouldn't be held responsible for what happens when women tempt them.
 
2012-08-21 07:11:59 AM  

drayno76: [cdn.hometheaterforum.com image 540x408]


It's not our fault they won't shut up about rape.
 
2012-08-21 07:16:00 AM  

Wittenberg Dropout: Wait, I guess I wasn't following too closely but, what type of rape is the one that creates the extraordinary people? Is that the forcible type or just the normal one... I gotta know since I plan on having all my children growing up with extraordinary abilities!

-- Professor X


the forcible type cannot get you pregnant. or so the GOP tells everyone.
only sluts who beg for it get pregnant.
 
2012-08-21 07:16:42 AM  
Jesus wasn't the only God born as a result of rape, there were others who were the result of Gods raping people.

If you read through lots of mytholgies, God rape is pretty common, as is devil rape and ghost rape.
 
2012-08-21 07:17:22 AM  

thamike: Satanic_Hamster: So.... He's saying go out and rape some biatches, right?

For Jesus.


God's PlanTM

Mysterious ways, all that.
 
2012-08-21 07:18:23 AM  

KiplingKat872: I guess you were asleep through all the GHB/Rohypnol drug rapes.


Keep on point. Nobody's talking about that. And I mentioned Rohypnol first than anyone on this thread and it's obviously rape.

Yes, it does happen. No, it does not trivialize rape.

Yes, the term "date rape" trivializes rape. Also, isn't it ironic that we have a whole thread of people complaining and adverb/adjective being used to differentiate rape, yet you insist on doing that?

There's no such thing as date rape. There's just rape. The term "date rape" is trivializing and euphemistic. It also provides rapists with an argument (albeit a weak one), while if you only used "rape" they'd have nothing to get a hold of.

Speaking as a rape survivor, I tend to find the people who use that phrase, "trivializing rape," are usually trying to excuse some scenario or accuse the victims of lying. What truly trivializes rape is people who try to excuse it or blame the victims.

Yeah, I'm sorry you got raped, but your accusations against me are inconsequential and a logical fallacy. Being raped doesn't excuse you from being wrong.
 
2012-08-21 07:18:33 AM  
cinerarium.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-08-21 07:18:35 AM  
www.ratemymotivational.com

Bonus:
If you GIS 'rape' and 'Japan', you get this gem.
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-08-21 07:20:04 AM  

dickfreckle: Did you miss the part where I stated that there's no difference between raping someone who is passed out (or drugged) and forcibly holding the victim down? I wasn't trivializing anything; merely pointing out that rape is rape, and using words like "forcible" to further cloud the issue seems stupid.


Sorry, I didn't meant to say you were doing it consciously. I just think the term "date rape" is trivializing and mitigating (from the rapist pov).
 
2012-08-21 07:23:27 AM  

cc_rider: Yes, it actually happens. It happened to somebody I know back in school. The rapist was the older brother of one of our classmates. But for the record, talking about people who sexually assault drunk or drugged victims does not trivialize rape in any way.

In case you weren't aware, one of America's most notorious rapists in recent times was a filthy-rich trust fund baby, who drugged his victims and videotaped them while he was raping them. Link


Sorry, I'm not American so I may not be up to date on what happens on who. I find it disgusting that such things happen and are, apparently, so commonplace. I asked because I just can't fathom something like that happening systematically. Like I said, yeah, I realize someone out there must have done it, just didn't know it was so prevalent. It's like, wow, people really do that?
 
2012-08-21 07:25:29 AM  
2 Comments:

1. First, if anything, attempting to use "forcible rape" as the distinction that absolves a woman of moral responsibility is worse than Akin's "legitimate rape" comment, not better.

2. "Lots of great people were born as the result of rape" it the kind of statement that makes me wonder if Mike Hucklabee has ever so much as read a Wikipedia article on moral philosophy. He is literally attempting to argue that something is a moral good because it (in some cases) produced a situation which he finds desirable. You can use the exact same argument to argue that the American Indian genocide was a good thing because there's some good restaurants in Missouri now.

Making people suffer because of the potential of potential people is not good policy - in multiple contexts.
 
2012-08-21 07:25:53 AM  

Mega Steve: dletter: Burn_The_Plows: Biological Ali: You won't see anybody talking about "justifiable rape" or "rape committed in self-defense" or what have you.

SHE WAS COMING RIGHT AT ME!!

And it was my only weapon!


PHANTOM SPACEMAN!


MegaSteve just joined the ranks of Pocket Ninja, Guntram Shatterhand, and Weaver in "awesome green"
 
2012-08-21 07:27:38 AM  

Martian_Astronomer: argue that the American Indian genocide was a good thing because there's some good restaurants in Missouri now.


Hmm, Kansas City DOES have some great BBQ. Just Sayin.
 
2012-08-21 07:29:58 AM  
Mike Huckabee and those who are defending that moron Akin needs to die in a fire. Disgusting, subhuman, pieces of shait.
 
2012-08-21 07:31:28 AM  
I used to play bass for Product of Rape. We were big in the 90s.
 
2012-08-21 07:33:00 AM  
While some farkers may technically be correct regarding the different types of rape under the law, I think the bigger issue is that some Republicans are trying to spin the comments so they don't sound as bad.

If Akin doesn't drop out, then they are stuck with him as a candidate (I believe they have an option to replace if he drops out today.) Many Republicans are trying to distance themselves from him but if he doesn't drop out and loses, they lose a seat.

The Republican party's recent return to much more conservative values combined with their already existing views on women's reproductive rights makes them appear anti-women.

Trying to qualify rape instead of stating it's bad along with trying to spin it as "Sorry you were raped but that rape baby may be a great person some day" doesn't make them look good.
 
2012-08-21 07:34:21 AM  
These are the people that spit on "San Francisco values".

Blessed are the rapists, for they give us joyous rape babies.
 
2012-08-21 07:35:06 AM  

rocky_howard: cc_rider: Yes, it actually happens. It happened to somebody I know back in school. The rapist was the older brother of one of our classmates. But for the record, talking about people who sexually assault drunk or drugged victims does not trivialize rape in any way.

In case you weren't aware, one of America's most notorious rapists in recent times was a filthy-rich trust fund baby, who drugged his victims and videotaped them while he was raping them. Link

Sorry, I'm not American so I may not be up to date on what happens on who. I find it disgusting that such things happen and are, apparently, so commonplace. I asked because I just can't fathom something like that happening systematically. Like I said, yeah, I realize someone out there must have done it, just didn't know it was so prevalent. It's like, wow, people really do that?


I guess I misunderstood your objection was to the term "date rape". But yes, these things happen and they are trivialized a lot more often than people would care to admit. Sadly, there are too many people out there like these jerk-off politicians, who still buy into the "blame-the-victim" mentality.
 
2012-08-21 07:35:17 AM  

Irving Maimway: Holy fark he really said that.

And again with the "forcible" rape? WTF does that even mean? How can there be variations on rape?? I really don't understand this mindset, unless it's the whole "Well, she was asking for it by the way she was dressed that horrible tramp" theory.

//Don't want to live on this planet anymore.


Ugh...

GF asked me about the other schmuck last night with his "pregnancy from rape can be avoided" comment. We were discussing the rampant stupidity of it, and playing devil's advocate (as some species actually do have this ability; but humans... not so much).

Total conversation time - less than 30 seconds.

Decision - candidate could probably use a lobotomy for the benefit of all those around him

Gf is MUCH further to the right than most people. She's voting democrat on most issues and candidates this election. Think that about says it all regarding the GOP over the past decade.
 
2012-08-21 07:36:08 AM  

Martian_Astronomer: "Lots of great people were born as the result of rape" it the kind of statement that makes me wonder if Mike Hucklabee has ever so much as read a Wikipedia article on moral philosophy. He is literally attempting to argue that something is a moral good because it (in some cases) produced a situation which he finds desirable. You can use the exact same argument to argue that the American Indian genocide was a good thing because there's some good restaurants in Missouri now.

Making people suffer because of the potential of potential people is not good policy - in multiple contexts.


Explained better than I could have possibly achieved, so ^THIS^
 
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