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2012-08-21 04:54:03 AM  

stoli n coke: mind over manner


You win first price.
 
2012-08-21 04:56:32 AM  

libranoelrose: untaken_name: God-is-a-Taco: stoli n coke:
BTW, Huckster. There is NOTHING Christian about rape. At all.

How do you figure? The bible has all sorts of rules on rape, and most of it punishes the victim more than the rapist.

The victim is punished more than being stoned to death? I get the feeling you heard that from someone rather than looked it up yourself.

Who is the victim?


Is this some existential philosophical question? The victim would be the person who was raped. That's why they call them "rape victims", because they are the victim when there is a rape; that is; the person who was raped is the victim, typically.
 
2012-08-21 04:58:30 AM  
farkabees
 
2012-08-21 04:59:08 AM  

WorldCitizen: I don't want to any way defend these farkers, but I think they are "trying" to make the distinction from statutory rape.


It's already sort of been covered, but they're making the distinction between, as you say, statutory rape and rape where the rapist beats the crap out of his victim,
but also between rape by a stranger or a husband forcing himself on his wife,
or a boss who rapes a subordinate by threatening a loss of employment but no physical violence,

but also a situation where a guy with a gun and a skimask surprises a woman and says "I'll kill you if you speak or don't do everything I say," because if you don't fight back then you're giving consent.
 
2012-08-21 04:59:53 AM  

rocky_howard: Biological Ali: rocky_howard: Are you dense? There's also variations on homicide:

That's because "homicide" is a very broad term that can refer to plenty of things that aren't crimes at all - in contrast with rape, which is by definition a crime. You won't see anybody talking about "justifiable rape" or "rape committed in self-defense" or what have you.

Even in the "murder" subsection there are variations and murder is already a crime.


Yeah, but there's very few in comparison and, much like rape, most of the variants are just designations for particularly severe instances of the crime or for the crime being committed against various classes of victim (minors etc.)
 
2012-08-21 05:02:10 AM  

Biological Ali: rocky_howard: Biological Ali: rocky_howard: Are you dense? There's also variations on homicide:

That's because "homicide" is a very broad term that can refer to plenty of things that aren't crimes at all - in contrast with rape, which is by definition a crime. You won't see anybody talking about "justifiable rape" or "rape committed in self-defense" or what have you.

Even in the "murder" subsection there are variations and murder is already a crime.

Yeah, but there's very few in comparison and, much like rape, most of the variants are just designations for particularly severe instances of the crime or for the crime being committed against various classes of victim (minors etc.)


Isn't that the same for rape?

Forcibly rape
Drug-induced rape
Statutory rape
 
2012-08-21 05:02:42 AM  
Mike Huckabee would know.

As the legend goes, Mike Huckabee himself was conceived one fateful evening after the 12th annual Drunken Barn Dance when, as legend goes, his mother (a blue ribbon prize heifer) was "forcibly raped" repeatedly with sticks of butter.
 
2012-08-21 05:02:55 AM  

stoli n coke: Kevin72: phrawgh: Kevin72: SuwonROKs: I love how Libtards bash Republicans for taking things out of context
So then you agree with him that a woman can't get pregnan
What child? If a woman is legitimately raped, she won't get pregnant because the whole onROKs actually believe.

So, if that is true, I have a question.
I'm a believer in mind over manner and the idea that sometimes your mind plays tricks on the body.
In theory, maybe next time, right before the moment of truth, I should put on a ski mask and tell her, "biatch you gonna get raped."
If it works, it could result in thousands of dollars in savings on birth control. If not, I just gave some old clothes to Goodwill, so I have a surplus of wire hangers. Win-win.


Yes, yes, and yes. That's why this scientific breakthrough has been so newsworthy. Yes, legitimate rape is the best birth control. Because legitimate rape shuts the whole system down, so the woman doesn't get pregnant.
 
2012-08-21 05:03:05 AM  
Rape rape.

Also known as Republican Damage Control.
 
2012-08-21 05:04:16 AM  

untaken_name: libranoelrose: untaken_name: God-is-a-Taco: stoli n coke:
BTW, Huckster. There is NOTHING Christian about rape. At all.

How do you figure? The bible has all sorts of rules on rape, and most of it punishes the victim more than the rapist.

The victim is punished more than being stoned to death? I get the feeling you heard that from someone rather than looked it up yourself.

Who is the victim?

Is this some existential philosophical question? The victim would be the person who was raped. That's why they call them "rape victims", because they are the victim when there is a rape; that is; the person who was raped is the victim, typically.


My bad.

I was under the impression that the victim was the fully formed human that was aborted before they could become a preacher.

Is this still about how much of an asshole Huck is?
 
2012-08-21 05:04:57 AM  
Why don't they just up it a single notch and say the girl should be married to the rapist.
 
2012-08-21 05:05:32 AM  

untaken_name:
The victim is punished more than being stoned to death? I get the feeling you heard that from someone rather than looked it up yourself.


I'm referring to the "rape a virgin" punishment of her being forced to marry the rapist. Although it might have applied to any single woman, but I think it was virgin (since women are property and all).

There's the taking of women as the spoils of war, although that doesn't directly imply rape I suppose.

Oh, and Lot and his daughters had a pretty good time. I don't think that was a legitimate rape, though.

Weren't female slaves forced to concede sexually to the male slave of the owner's choice, too?
 
2012-08-21 05:05:56 AM  
Rape is not a sex crime, it is a crime of assault. Assault with an ugly weapon.
 
2012-08-21 05:06:33 AM  

namatad:
we really need a 95% accurate lie detector. of course we would have to have them surgically attached to all public officials ....


Lucky for you it's coming, MRI lie detectors
and So that was secret huh?
 
2012-08-21 05:08:26 AM  
www.islamicinvitationturkey.com

Approves.

/This is what the Tea Party Taliban wants America to become.
 
2012-08-21 05:10:42 AM  
Maddow had a great show last night about all this stuff. and the fascist sec of state in Ohio
 
2012-08-21 05:11:13 AM  
Let me see if I got this right ... The following methods are NOT 'legitimate' rape (even though they are criminal forms of rape).

- An adult abuses their position of authority (either as a professional, religious leader, community leader or individual guardian) as the means to coerce the minor or subservient to have sex.

- The rape victim is inebriated or incapacitated

And it is the lack of either one, force or trauma, that negates the need for medical coverage. And religious libertarian-types are okay with this.
 
2012-08-21 05:11:23 AM  

Kevin72: stoli n coke: Kevin72: phrawgh: Kevin72: SuwonROKs: I love how Libtards bash Republicans for taking things out of context
So then you agree with him that a woman can't get pregnan
What child? If a woman is legitimately raped, she won't get pregnant because the whole onROKs actually believe.

So, if that is true, I have a question.
I'm a believer in mind over manner and the idea that sometimes your mind plays tricks on the body.
In theory, maybe next time, right before the moment of truth, I should put on a ski mask and tell her, "biatch you gonna get raped."
If it works, it could result in thousands of dollars in savings on birth control. If not, I just gave some old clothes to Goodwill, so I have a surplus of wire hangers. Win-win.

Yes, yes, and yes. That's why this scientific breakthrough has been so newsworthy. Yes, legitimate rape is the best birth control. Because legitimate rape shuts the whole system down, so the woman doesn't get pregnant.


Problem is, I'm just not a rapey kind of guy.
But, if I play this on the stereo at the right time, maybe her body will believe it's legit.
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-08-21 05:11:57 AM  
I guess Romney/Ryan weren't doing enough to make the GOP look bad this election cycle, so now we have the B-Listers cranking up the Crazy to 11. Good job, Huckabee. At least we now know that if you'd become the GOP candidate for President, Obama would have won re-election by the largest margin in American history.
 
2012-08-21 05:13:35 AM  

DjangoStonereaver: [www.islamicinvitationturkey.com image 460x288]

Approves.

/This is what the Tea Party Taliban wants America to become.


Does that guy know that pinky rings are a sign of the homosexuals?
 
2012-08-21 05:13:51 AM  
I was raped by my friendʻs brother one night when he was drunk and stoned. He was sharpening a big knife. I told him no, but even as big as I am, he overpowered me. I begged him to use protection and he refused. I bawled the entire time and finally passed out from pain and exhaustion. When I woke up, I wanted to chew my arm off rather than wake him up. I snuck out of his house and went home where I showered for hours. I shouldʻve gone to the hospital, but my mind was just blank.

My friends questioned why I didnʻt scream or fight, but I was freaking out that he would stab me if I tried anything funny.

Since that day, I have found it nearly impossible to get close to anyone. Itʻs going on 20 years. I have tried getting help from rape counseling centers & various counselors, but with every passing year, counselors have said I should just "get over it" already.

Iʻm working on helping myself since no one else will. But the experience has made me very numb from the neck down and put on lots of weight as a coping mechanism so that no one would find me attractive. Now Iʻm lonely and want to feel safe with someone and be able to love, cuddle, make love to, and be comfortable in a dark room with someone again. I deserve to be happy and joyous in my life. Aloha.
 
2012-08-21 05:13:54 AM  
Surprised no one mentioned this.
Score the Evil Vote
 
2012-08-21 05:14:40 AM  
Wait, I guess I wasn't following too closely but, what type of rape is the one that creates the extraordinary people? Is that the forcible type or just the normal one... I gotta know since I plan on having all my children growing up with extraordinary abilities!

-- Professor X
 
2012-08-21 05:16:51 AM  
And to predict the future, it always amuses me when people attempt to take responsibility for themselves by saying "I'm sorry I said that" instead of "I'm sorry I thought that". It's roughly the same as if someone were to say "sorry you got stabbed" instead of "sorry I stabbed you" - apologizing for an action's effect rather than its cause. Such a lack of personal responsibility for one's actions means that you get to be a monster and still feel good about yourself.

/I give it two weeks
//I'm sorry I said all of that
 
2012-08-21 05:17:58 AM  
What's infuriating beyond rage isn't that Huckaboo has a TV network that panders to him, a government lifetime pension from being elected into public office or the mindset of a tribalistic fire-dancing snake charmer chanting to the moon spirit, it's that the farking asshat has an Alembic bass.

/ Those are very nice basses
 
2012-08-21 05:19:42 AM  

Gyrfalcon: So then you agree with him that a woman can't get pregnant when she is legitimately raped.

...and should be FORCED by the government to raise that child.

But no government aid, because she should have thought of that before she got pregnant.

 
And not have cheap alternatives for contraception to bypass this whole thing, because only the rich and/or employed sluts should have control over their reproductive systems.
 
mhd
2012-08-21 05:20:04 AM  
There's a quick solution to this "debate": Make the rape defenders listen to Tori Amos 24/7. They'll soon change their mind.

/Or "break up with Tom Cruise".
 
2012-08-21 05:21:43 AM  

PsychoLaurie: I was raped by my friendʻs brother one night when he was drunk and stoned. He was sharpening a big knife. I told him no, but even as big as I am, he overpowered me. I begged him to use protection and he refused. I bawled the entire time and finally passed out from pain and exhaustion. When I woke up, I wanted to chew my arm off rather than wake him up. I snuck out of his house and went home where I showered for hours. I shouldʻve gone to the hospital, but my mind was just blank.

My friends questioned why I didnʻt scream or fight, but I was freaking out that he would stab me if I tried anything funny.

Since that day, I have found it nearly impossible to get close to anyone. Itʻs going on 20 years. I have tried getting help from rape counseling centers & various counselors, but with every passing year, counselors have said I should just "get over it" already.

Iʻm working on helping myself since no one else will. But the experience has made me very numb from the neck down and put on lots of weight as a coping mechanism so that no one would find me attractive. Now Iʻm lonely and want to feel safe with someone and be able to love, cuddle, make love to, and be comfortable in a dark room with someone again. I deserve to be happy and joyous in my life. Aloha.


I'd like to give it a shot, but your username doesn't help me :/

Lemme add you on Facebook.
 
2012-08-21 05:22:30 AM  

rocky_howard: Isn't that the same for rape?

Forcibly rape
Drug-induced rape
Statutory rape


I don't think too many people would count statutory rape alongside your stereotypical rapes. It's a kind of offense, sure, but I wouldn't really list it as a variant of rape.

As for "drug-induced rape" I think it would make more sense to just treat it the same as "forcible rape" with additional charges for whatever drugs you administered to the person (assuming that it too was without their consent). I don't know much about US laws so I'm not sure about the degree to which drug-induced rape would be treated differently on a formal basis.
 
2012-08-21 05:22:39 AM  

namatad:
have you EVER watched reality TV? clearly MOST people are this stupid


I'm not saying I disagree with your conclusion, but your data field suffers from double selection bias. Reality TV doesn't want smart people, and smart people don't want to be in reality TV.
 
2012-08-21 05:23:01 AM  

God-is-a-Taco: untaken_name:
The victim is punished more than being stoned to death? I get the feeling you heard that from someone rather than looked it up yourself.

I'm referring to the "rape a virgin" punishment of her being forced to marry the rapist. Although it might have applied to any single woman, but I think it was virgin (since women are property and all).

There's the taking of women as the spoils of war, although that doesn't directly imply rape I suppose.

Oh, and Lot and his daughters had a pretty good time. I don't think that was a legitimate rape, though.

Weren't female slaves forced to concede sexually to the male slave of the owner's choice, too?


You mean the clause where if the young people who committed adultery were both virgins they could get married instead of being stoned to death? O...k. That always seemed like a reasonable out, to me. All parties to adultery were supposed to be stoned to death. Now, it's certainly true that in practical application, many men were not punished although women were - as when the guy people call Jesus stopped a crowd from stoning a woman for adultery even though the man was allowed to go free. Also, women were NOT property, and in fact the ancient Hebrews were one of the few historical ancient societies in which women were allowed to own property and make business deals. I think you're making the common mistake of thinking that a bride-price means that the bride is bought and purchased property of the husband - that's not the case, and in fact the bride price did not go to the groom. It was the inheritance that the bride would not receive from her parents upon their death - given to her early to symbolize that the responsibility for making sure she was cared for (what many people mistake as ownership) passed from father to husband. Now, I'm certainly not arguing that the treatment of the sexes was equal in the ancient Hebrew days, but it's a far cry from having to protect and support women to owning them. As for slavery - Hebrews couldn't make slaves of other Hebrews, only bond servants, whose term was limited by law. Only "strangers" could be taken into involuntary servitude (and it was illegal to beat them or starve them or mistreat them in any way other than confining them to involuntary servitude), in war or from any other cause. Bond servitude could be entered into without the consent of the bond servant, but not without some action on his part - for example, owing a debt he could not pay. Now, having said all that, I am not religious, and I only study religious texts in order to crush more arguments from religious people more easily, so my understanding may be flawed, but I've put in quite a bit of study on the ancient Hebrew religious texts.
 
2012-08-21 05:24:18 AM  
PsychoLaurie:

I'm sorry. There's nothing I can say to improve your life, other than you should be proud of yourself for maintaining the strength to march on.
And you do indeed deserve to be happy and joyous, and that day will come.

I will say this, though, that Fark is one of the worst places in which to admit a weakness.
 
2012-08-21 05:25:30 AM  

stoli n coke: dletter: On another note though, what this all is, from all of them saying this stupid shiat, is to defend banning abortions in ALL circumstances....

even if they were raped.....

even if it was incest......

even if they were 12 years old.....

gotta have the baby.

Pretty much. Live babies to turn into dead soldiers, as Carlin put it.

BTW, Huckster. There is NOTHING Christian about rape. At all. I know you got a book sale boost by convincing people that eating some overpriced chicken made them somehow more Christ-like, but the fact that you are actually seeking to find a silver lining for one of the cruelest things a human being can do to another human being is beyond sickening. And it's all in the interest of boosting your political team, not your God.

That's like walking up to someone who was beaten and crippled, and telling them at least they get the best parking spots now.

You are a snake oil salesman hiding behind a Bible. You've turned the elephant into your golden calf.
Hopefully, the horrible act you're now lamenting the brighter side of never happens to someone you care about. You wouldn't want to choke down the shiat you just spewed out.


I think the bible is ok with rape. As long as the woman is a virgin and you marry her afterwards.

/seriously
 
2012-08-21 05:25:44 AM  

PsychoLaurie: I was raped by my friendʻs brother one night when he was drunk and stoned. He was sharpening a big knife. I told him no, but even as big as I am, he overpowered me. I begged him to use protection and he refused. I bawled the entire time and finally passed out from pain and exhaustion. When I woke up, I wanted to chew my arm off rather than wake him up. I snuck out of his house and went home where I showered for hours. I shouldʻve gone to the hospital, but my mind was just blank.

My friends questioned why I didnʻt scream or fight, but I was freaking out that he would stab me if I tried anything funny.

Since that day, I have found it nearly impossible to get close to anyone. Itʻs going on 20 years. I have tried getting help from rape counseling centers & various counselors, but with every passing year, counselors have said I should just "get over it" already.

Iʻm working on helping myself since no one else will. But the experience has made me very numb from the neck down and put on lots of weight as a coping mechanism so that no one would find me attractive. Now Iʻm lonely and want to feel safe with someone and be able to love, cuddle, make love to, and be comfortable in a dark room with someone again. I deserve to be happy and joyous in my life. Aloha.


You must be thankful to find out from the wisdom of our elected officials that you were actually raped.
/end snark
 
2012-08-21 05:26:16 AM  
Time for me to contribute to society.

/does this smell like chloroform to you?
 
2012-08-21 05:27:44 AM  

untaken_name: God-is-a-Taco: untaken_name:
The victim is punished more than being stoned to death? I get the feeling you heard that from someone rather than looked it up yourself.

I'm referring to the "rape a virgin" punishment of her being forced to marry the rapist. Although it might have applied to any single woman, but I think it was virgin (since women are property and all).

There's the taking of women as the spoils of war, although that doesn't directly imply rape I suppose.

Oh, and Lot and his daughters had a pretty good time. I don't think that was a legitimate rape, though.

Weren't female slaves forced to concede sexually to the male slave of the owner's choice, too?

You mean the clause where if the young people who committed adultery were both virgins they could get married instead of being stoned to death? O...k. That always seemed like a reasonable out, to me. All parties to adultery were supposed to be stoned to death. Now, it's certainly true that in practical application, many men were not punished although women were - as when the guy people call Jesus stopped a crowd from stoning a woman for adultery even though the man was allowed to go free. Also, women were NOT property, and in fact the ancient Hebrews were one of the few historical ancient societies in which women were allowed to own property and make business deals. I think you're making the common mistake of thinking that a bride-price means that the bride is bought and purchased property of the husband - that's not the case, and in fact the bride price did not go to the groom. It was the inheritance that the bride would not receive from her parents upon their death - given to her early to symbolize that the responsibility for making sure she was cared for (what many people mistake as ownership) passed from father to husband. Now, I'm certainly not arguing that the treatment of the sexes was equal in the ancient Hebrew days, but it's a far cry from having to protect and support women to owning them. ...


This doesn't sound like you, Tats.
 
2012-08-21 05:32:42 AM  
I guess if torture can be made acceptable by the right, then so can rape.
 
2012-08-21 05:33:50 AM  

libranoelrose: untaken_name: God-is-a-Taco: untaken_name:
The victim is punished more than being stoned to death? I get the feeling you heard that from someone rather than looked it up yourself.

I'm referring to the "rape a virgin" punishment of her being forced to marry the rapist. Although it might have applied to any single woman, but I think it was virgin (since women are property and all).

There's the taking of women as the spoils of war, although that doesn't directly imply rape I suppose.

Oh, and Lot and his daughters had a pretty good time. I don't think that was a legitimate rape, though.

Weren't female slaves forced to concede sexually to the male slave of the owner's choice, too?

You mean the clause where if the young people who committed adultery were both virgins they could get married instead of being stoned to death? O...k. That always seemed like a reasonable out, to me. All parties to adultery were supposed to be stoned to death. Now, it's certainly true that in practical application, many men were not punished although women were - as when the guy people call Jesus stopped a crowd from stoning a woman for adultery even though the man was allowed to go free. Also, women were NOT property, and in fact the ancient Hebrews were one of the few historical ancient societies in which women were allowed to own property and make business deals. I think you're making the common mistake of thinking that a bride-price means that the bride is bought and purchased property of the husband - that's not the case, and in fact the bride price did not go to the groom. It was the inheritance that the bride would not receive from her parents upon their death - given to her early to symbolize that the responsibility for making sure she was cared for (what many people mistake as ownership) passed from father to husband. Now, I'm certainly not arguing that the treatment of the sexes was equal in the ancient Hebrew days, but it's a far cry from having to protect and support women to ...


So, do you ever have anything substantive to add to any discussion? If you take issue with something I've said, why not try formulating an intelligent rebuttal to it? I even stated in my post that my understanding may be flawed. If you think you have a better understanding, fill me in. If you don't have a better understanding, then why take issue with my post?
 
2012-08-21 05:34:31 AM  

PsychoLaurie: I was raped by my friendʻs brother one night when he was drunk and stoned. He was sharpening a big knife. I told him no, but even as big as I am, he overpowered me. I begged him to use protection and he refused. I bawled the entire time and finally passed out from pain and exhaustion. When I woke up, I wanted to chew my arm off rather than wake him up. I snuck out of his house and went home where I showered for hours. I shouldʻve gone to the hospital, but my mind was just blank.

My friends questioned why I didnʻt scream or fight, but I was freaking out that he would stab me if I tried anything funny.

Since that day, I have found it nearly impossible to get close to anyone. Itʻs going on 20 years. I have tried getting help from rape counseling centers & various counselors, but with every passing year, counselors have said I should just "get over it" already.

Iʻm working on helping myself since no one else will. But the experience has made me very numb from the neck down and put on lots of weight as a coping mechanism so that no one would find me attractive. Now Iʻm lonely and want to feel safe with someone and be able to love, cuddle, make love to, and be comfortable in a dark room with someone again. I deserve to be happy and joyous in my life. Aloha.


Counselor's are useless for trauma like this. You need to go and see an actual therapist and/or psychologist that specializes in trauma. It'll help, I promise you.

/so sayeth dr drew.
 
2012-08-21 05:36:23 AM  
All rape is forcible you sexist farkwit.

I'm sorry, but this would be like me trying to sell "the good side" of combat and legislating for the armed forces according to a belief that being shot or blown up is "not so bad."

This is one of those topics that,ore and more, I feel that people who have not personally experienced it need to STFU.
 
2012-08-21 05:36:41 AM  
Sure, he might be right. But some extraordinary people have been created by pre-marital sex too, and I don't see the Catholic church changing their opinion on that.
 
2012-08-21 05:42:12 AM  

untaken_name: Also, women were NOT property, and in fact the ancient Hebrews were one of the few historical ancient societies in which women were allowed to own property and make business deals. I think you're making the common mistake of thinking that a bride-price means that the bride is bought and purchased property of the


Ahhh! Wall of text wall of text!
I made the "women were property" remark because of the overall misogyny and submission of women in the Abrahamic religions, not specifically to this topic.
I mentioned "spoils of war" to refer to the taking of slaves and surely-not-to-be-raped women and children from the enemy, I realize that a good holy book wouldn't overtly damage the same society if it were to take root.

And I'm not sure why you're calling them "bond servants". No need to excuse it if God allows it. (Those people probably don't even like God anyway) 


Err, this is going off-topic. Sorry. My original point was that no moral view taken from a holy book or script is of more value than any other in said book or script. No one gets to say that their interpretation is the true one.
 
2012-08-21 05:42:39 AM  
Keep raping that chicken
 
2012-08-21 05:43:57 AM  

libranoelrose: untaken_name: God-is-a-Taco: stoli n coke:
BTW, Huckster. There is NOTHING Christian about rape. At all.

How do you figure? The bible has all sorts of rules on rape, and most of it punishes the victim more than the rapist.

The victim is punished more than being stoned to death? I get the feeling you heard that from someone rather than looked it up yourself.

Who is the victim?


The victim is clearly the conservative Christian male, whose archaic, patriarchal views are under attack by us evil libruls. Apparently rape is ok, as long as it is done within a Biblical context.

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2012-08-21 05:51:30 AM  

Irving Maimway: And again with the "forcible" rape? WTF does that even mean? How can there be variations on rape?? I really don't understand this mindset, unless it's the whole "Well, she was asking for it by the way she was dressed that horrible tramp" theory.


This is the way they really think. What they are trying to promote is the idea that some rape is legitimate rape and others aren't really rape, not when you think about it.


For example, say the son of a prominent Republican politician takes his date home and decides to get a little frisky and she plays hard to get - well, he just paid for an expensive dinner and drinks. He's entitled to a little sugar, and all women are whores. So yeah, she said no but really only wanted to see him show how attractive she is to him and once he threw her down on the bed and had her way she must have enjoyed it, right? She was writhing and scratching and screaming and there were tears running down her cheeks.

NOT RAPE.

If she gets pregnant then she's the one who chose to ruin her life being a single mother. Stupid biatch. He has important things to do in life and can't afford to be saddled down with some brat.

AGAIN I SAY, NOT RAPE and you democrats should apologise for trying to make this a political issue.
 
2012-08-21 05:53:12 AM  

cc_rider: libranoelrose: untaken_name: God-is-a-Taco: stoli n coke:
BTW, Huckster. There is NOTHING Christian about rape. At all.

How do you figure? The bible has all sorts of rules on rape, and most of it punishes the victim more than the rapist.

The victim is punished more than being stoned to death? I get the feeling you heard that from someone rather than looked it up yourself.

Who is the victim?

The victim is clearly the conservative Christian male, whose archaic, patriarchal views are under attack by us evil libruls. Apparently rape is ok, as long as it is done within a Biblical context.

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thank you
now i'm going to my non rapey bed
g'nite all
 
2012-08-21 05:57:52 AM  

Befuddled: I guess if torture can be made acceptable by the right, then so can rape.


Rape and torture aren't too far apart. I'm sure rape has been used as torture and the effects on the victim are very similar.
 
2012-08-21 05:58:58 AM  
And so I know it happens, and yet even from those horrible, horrible tragedies of rape, which are inexcusable and indefensible, life has come and sometimes, you know, those people are able to do extraordinary things."

I love this. He makes sure that he adequately decries rape before, in so many words, telling you that maybe you should just accept it,

Also, I agree with other Farkers about being annoyed by this whole "forcible" thing. Rape is rape, Do we say "green asparagus?" "Red cabernet?" Is the use of "forcible" being used to imply that some rape is less rapey than others? What difference is there in assaulting a passed out college girl at a kegger and physically holding her down while she's awake? The end result is the same.
 
2012-08-21 06:00:16 AM  
And?
 
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2012-08-21 06:02:00 AM  

FlyingLizardOfDoom: So society is better off if people keep on raping?


hallelujah!
 
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