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(Jerusalem Post)   Russia says only UN should decide on force against Syria, reminds UN it has veto power on all strongly worded letters   (jpost.com) divider line 34
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2012-08-20 04:14:39 PM
Wunderbar.
 
2012-08-20 04:16:34 PM
Let Russia takeover control of Syria. Russia then becomes the focus of Middle Eastern terrorists who are paid by the Saudis. I'm sure Russia will enjoy terrorists attacks.
 
2012-08-20 04:17:42 PM
as long as the US stays the heck out, i don't care.
 
2012-08-20 04:18:11 PM
You can ask Muammar Gaddafi about those strongly worded letters.
 
2012-08-20 04:18:23 PM

WTF Indeed: Let Russia takeover control of Syria. Russia then becomes the focus of Middle Eastern terrorists who are paid by the Saudis. I'm sure Russia will enjoy terrorists attacks.


They can have Afghanistan back too.
 
2012-08-20 04:20:32 PM
F**k Russia.
 
2012-08-20 04:24:19 PM
Russia has done a good job becoming an evil caricature. I do wonder if China is still beefing with them though.
 
2012-08-20 04:27:49 PM
In other words "We want to be able to block intervention, because we know that if these uprisings have much in the way of further success we'll be seeing one of our own in not too many years."
 
2012-08-20 04:29:03 PM

WTF Indeed: Let Russia takeover control of Syria. Russia then becomes the focus of Middle Eastern terrorists who are paid by the Saudis. I'm sure Russia will enjoy terrorists attacks.


This.
Russia takes a hard line against terrorism from their own, I'm sure they would be extra civil with outside terrorist attacks.
The pwnage would be full of lulz.
 
2012-08-20 04:29:22 PM
Good.
 
2012-08-20 04:36:14 PM
little known fact, the first Mormon translation of their bible has stories in it saying that all the white trash from all corners of the globe traveled to Asia in 1000 BC and from that exodus was born the Russian motherland.
 
2012-08-20 04:36:36 PM
Good is correct .. the US needs a little taste of it's own medicine. It's been pulling crap like this for years at the behest of the Israelis. Balance is a good thing. Brinkmanship is even better.
 
2012-08-20 04:40:33 PM
Free Pussy! Riot!
 
2012-08-20 04:48:28 PM
You know, I can understand the permanent Security Council seats. I can't understand the overriding veto power. I also can't understand why the General Assembly has no power over it.

In short, I don't understand the United Nations.
 
2012-08-20 04:51:10 PM

Headso: little known fact, the first Mormon translation of their bible has stories in it saying that all the white trash from all corners of the globe traveled to Asia in 1000 BC and from that exodus was born the Russian motherland.


Weird. There seem to be several of their lost tribes here in Missouri. It's truly a triumph of evolution, the mullet evolving independently on two continents.
 
2012-08-20 04:52:32 PM
Does the world really still care what Russia thinks?
 
2012-08-20 04:53:33 PM
How do oil and natural gas pipelines factor into all of this?
 
Esn
2012-08-20 04:53:36 PM

WTF Indeed: Let Russia takeover control of Syria. Russia then becomes the focus of Middle Eastern terrorists who are paid by the Saudis. I'm sure Russia will enjoy terrorists attacks.


Hmm, I wonder who it is that pays the Saudis that allows them to have enough money to fund all these extremist Salafist groups?
 
2012-08-20 05:00:41 PM
Is this the same Russia that has vetoed everything but strongly worded letters in regards to Syria so far?
The same Russia who happens to have a single port their navy can use in the Mediterranean Ocean, and that happens to be in Syria?
The same Russia that has a vested interest in propping up the corrupt, unpopular and undemocratic regime in Syria?
The same Russia that is still supplying advanced weapons to the regime in Syria and can be said to be imposing "dictatorship by bombs"?

Just checking...
 
2012-08-20 05:07:06 PM

Esn: WTF Indeed: Let Russia takeover control of Syria. Russia then becomes the focus of Middle Eastern terrorists who are paid by the Saudis. I'm sure Russia will enjoy terrorists attacks.

Hmm, I wonder who it is that pays the Saudis that allows them to have enough money to fund all these extremist Salafist groups?


The entire world
 
2012-08-20 05:08:05 PM

WegianWarrior: Is this the same Russia that has vetoed everything but strongly worded letters in regards to Syria so far?
The same Russia who happens to have a single port their navy can use in the Mediterranean Ocean, and that happens to be in Syria?
The same Russia that has a vested interest in propping up the corrupt, unpopular and undemocratic regime in Syria?
The same Russia that is still supplying advanced weapons to the regime in Syria and can be said to be imposing "dictatorship by bombs"?

Just checking...


They didn't say dictatorship by bombs is bad, just democracy by bombs.
 
2012-08-20 05:08:29 PM
unpopular

Citation needed.
 
2012-08-20 05:15:44 PM
we already know what GOP "business men" who are only in politics 'cause of daddy do when they want to get their war on.
 
2012-08-20 05:16:42 PM

DeathLemur: You know, I can understand the permanent Security Council seats. I can't understand the overriding veto power. I also can't understand why the General Assembly has no power over it.

In short, I don't understand the United Nations.


Short answer: because nukes.

Long answer: at the end of WW2, you had 5 countries that were still capable of fighting (USSR, China, France, UK, USA), and they were really used to fighting at that point. So when they created the UN, they decided that rather than have, say, Russia get pissed off about some UN resolution and start a war over it, they would let any country with the potential to seriously fark up the world's shiat to veto any UN resolutions before they became international law.

That way nobody who matters ever feels like the entire world is officially against them.That leads to plenty of abuse and squabbling and favoritism, but at the time all of that sounded like a much better idea than the US and Russia grinding central Europe into even smaller piles of rubble.

Over the next couple of decades everybody on the Security Council got nukes, which made the General Assembly even more powerless in comparison. Oh, so every country in South America and Africa votes that China is doing something illegal. And what are all of those piddly little countries going to do to enforce their vote? Better to have that sort of thing die in committee rather than have China feel like it has to save face and send the missiles to Lima.
 
2012-08-20 05:17:05 PM

pacified: we already know what GOP "business men" who are only in politics 'cause of daddy--and dodged Vietnam--do when they want to get their war on.


FTFM
 
2012-08-20 05:20:57 PM

pacified: we already know what GOP "business men" who are only in politics 'cause of daddy do when they want to get their war on.


Its the humanitarians who are in charge right now.


/if a vegetarian eats vegetables..
 
2012-08-20 05:24:45 PM
www.threadbombing.com

see what I did there comrad?
 
2012-08-20 05:42:45 PM
Putin sucks and needs to stub his toe on a Navy SEAL Team.

/End Putin.
 
2012-08-20 06:15:42 PM
So, on Monday the UN is the Gang that Can't Shoot Straight? On what days is it the Evil Black Helicopter New World Order?
 
Esn
2012-08-20 07:07:25 PM

redmid17: Esn: WTF Indeed: Let Russia takeover control of Syria. Russia then becomes the focus of Middle Eastern terrorists who are paid by the Saudis. I'm sure Russia will enjoy terrorists attacks.

Hmm, I wonder who it is that pays the Saudis that allows them to have enough money to fund all these extremist Salafist groups?

The entire world


Not Russia, though. They didn't even have diplomatic offices in each other's countries from 1938 until after the Soviet Union fell apart. The US allied itself with Saudi Arabia's extremist ideology to help topple the USSR in the 1980s, through Afghanistan. Now the US is again allied with Saudi Arabia to bring mujahideen into yet another Middle Eastern country and remove the Russian presence there.
 
2012-08-20 07:23:54 PM

Esn: redmid17: Esn: WTF Indeed: Let Russia takeover control of Syria. Russia then becomes the focus of Middle Eastern terrorists who are paid by the Saudis. I'm sure Russia will enjoy terrorists attacks.

Hmm, I wonder who it is that pays the Saudis that allows them to have enough money to fund all these extremist Salafist groups?

The entire world

Not Russia, though. They didn't even have diplomatic offices in each other's countries from 1938 until after the Soviet Union fell apart. The US allied itself with Saudi Arabia's extremist ideology to help topple the USSR in the 1980s, through Afghanistan. Now the US is again allied with Saudi Arabia to bring mujahideen into yet another Middle Eastern country and remove the Russian presence there.


Not news: Net oil exporters don't typically rely on foreign sources for oil
 
2012-08-21 03:00:40 AM

Lucky LaRue: Does the world really still care what Russia thinks?


So long as they continue to pump out as much vodka as they do, they can tell me the earth is flat and I probably wouldn't argue with them. Plus all those nukes they have lying around tend to give them a bit of a voice on the international stage I guess.
 
2012-08-21 06:43:28 AM
Oh, Pootster, this has your fingerprints all over it.

We get it, okay?

It's the only country in the region with port access that is still within your sphere of influence.

That noted, tell your guy to lay off of thoughts of using any of that stockpile of chemical weapons on your own people.

And free Pussy Riot while your about too, you soul-less egomaniac.

Obama gave a little talk today regarding Syria and their stockpile saying that while he remains committed to not involving US troops in the country that the use of illegal weapons would cross a "red line".

The president noted that he hasn't ordered any armed U.S. intervention yet, but said: "We have communicated in no uncertain terms with every player in the region, that that's a red line for us, and that there would be enormous consequences if we start seeing movement on the chemical weapons front, or the use of chemical weapons. That would change my calculations significantly."

USA Today Link/ AP article

So there's that.
 
2012-08-21 06:46:18 AM
...*his* own people.

Yeesh.

/I blame autocorrect, the new preview buttons and the 1919 Chicago Blacksox.
 
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