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2012-08-20 04:15:57 PM
Sutro Tower really gets around. I always thought it was kind of ugly and overpowering like it was some monster threatening San Francisco, but lately I've seen it cropping up all across the USA, sometimes in Southern California, sometimes in Florida.
 
2012-08-20 04:26:12 PM
They either pulled the link or should have included Subby's alma matter
 
2012-08-20 04:27:06 PM

SnakeLee: They either pulled the link or should have included Subby's alma matter


Oh no wait it works, maybe they should have included mine. What a terrible format though
 
2012-08-20 04:46:13 PM
1. University of Central Florida

Percent of applicants admitted: 45 percent
Median SAT (Math and Critical Reading): 1185
Median ACT: 26
Student-to-Faculty Ratio: 32
College Prowler manageability workload score (out of 10): 7.2


and yet I would give this person a chance in an interview as over anyone who put the University of Phoenix on their resume. (In fact, if you got a degree from UofPhoenix in order to get a raise or something... just don't admit to it)
 
2012-08-20 05:00:42 PM
Was that page created by the least rigorous web designer?
 
2012-08-20 05:05:58 PM

brap: Was that page created by the least rigorous web designer?


It's been deslidified, a service made by a FARKER to automatically deslide slideshows.
 
2012-08-20 05:07:22 PM

SnakeLee: SnakeLee: They either pulled the link or should have included Subby's alma matter

Oh no wait it works, maybe they should have included mine. What a terrible format though


De-slide. It was this format or 27 slides. Sorry if it didn't work right, maybe I did something wrong when linking?
 
2012-08-20 05:20:15 PM

dahmers love zombie: De-slide. It was this format or 27 slides. Sorry if it didn't work right, maybe I did something wrong when linking?


Nope. Considering the alternative, it's a piece of beauty.
 
2012-08-20 05:23:06 PM
Oh the text is over to the right.  That IS nice.
 
(Have my computer set on the Mr. Magoo Blind Man setting).
 
My apologies and thank you.
 
2012-08-20 05:35:37 PM

brap: Oh the text is over to the right.  That IS nice.
 
(Have my computer set on the Mr. Magoo Blind Man setting).
 
My apologies and thank you.



Yeah, it ain't perfect... but its better than the original.  Kudos to whoever created this site... i didn't know it was a farker.
 
2012-08-20 05:37:30 PM

brap: Was that page created by the least rigorous web designer?


Really. WTF was that?
 
2012-08-20 06:11:16 PM
all I get are deslidified photos that aren't identified. I'm not staring for an hour playing "where's waldo" to figure out what f*cking schools those are.

If you do that in the future, put the full link address and give us a deslidified one in your initial post
 
2012-08-20 06:13:19 PM

Timmy the Tumor: all I get are deslidified photos that aren't identified. I'm not staring for an hour playing "where's waldo" to figure out what f*cking schools those are.

If you do that in the future, put the full link address and give us a deslidified one in your initial post



Open your browser window really big... its on the right.  Its really scrunched up because the images are big.  But its there.
 
I missed it the first time too.
 
2012-08-20 06:48:44 PM
I can assure everyone the image given for the University of South Florida is completely wrong. I mean, it's Florida. The trees, buildings, and mountains in the distance are completely wrong.

Aw, crap. They listed UCF where I got my bachelors at. In fairness though, they did include the accursed University of Alabama.

/RED TIDE EVERYBODY!
 
2012-08-20 07:01:56 PM
Rigor mortis, anyone?

Anyone?

Newsweek ranking education mortace, anyone?

Tace is face.

Anyone?

Stiff.
 
2012-08-20 07:03:02 PM

Indubitably: Rigor mortis, anyone?

Anyone?

Newsweek ranking education mortace, anyone?

Tace is face.

Anyone?

Stiff.


P.S. I call this cyber-poem "Deface"
 
2012-08-20 07:09:44 PM
Pics are...problematic. I am almost 99% sure there are no mountains visible from anywhere on the USF campus.
 
2012-08-20 07:12:04 PM

AirForceVet:

They listed UCF where I got my bachelors at.


I'm not quite sure what to say....
 
2012-08-20 07:16:54 PM

skink: Pics are...problematic. I am almost 99% sure there are no mountains visible from anywhere on the USF campus.


Surely, you have never been! Why, their mascot is the fearsome mountain lion, and who can forget their school anthem, "The Greenest Hills of Tampa Bay"? All that high altitude practice gives their athletics teams that extra edge they need to be competitive. It really helps drive the local community into their strong frenzy of school spirit!

/I may or may not have gone to USF for 2 years
//I may or may not have given that page a quizzical look when I saw that picture
 
2012-08-20 07:17:35 PM
Wow. I read the headline above this one first. It's about racism. Then I read this one and it took me a minute to realize that the word was "rigorous" instead of...something else.
 
2012-08-20 07:18:34 PM
What, no South Harmon Institute of Technology?
 
2012-08-20 07:19:51 PM
NC State? Naw, recent events prove that UNC-CH is the new slide king of the NC system. To keep their jocks on campus they created classes out of thin air, enrolled only jocks, and then didn't even meet. Lowest grade received for these no-show classes was a "B"

And if you have parents connected into North Carolina's one-party political system, you'll be admitted even if you spent your high school years smoking weed at the beach.
 
2012-08-20 07:25:09 PM

SymphonyXtasy: I may or may not have gone to USF for 2 years


I may or may not have a daughter at TWO schools on the list.

/I totally do
 
2012-08-20 07:26:02 PM

skink: SymphonyXtasy: I may or may not have gone to USF for 2 years

I may or may not have a daughter at TWO schools on the list.

/I totally do


Why didn't she just find one school that has everything she wants?
 
2012-08-20 07:29:47 PM

umad: skink: SymphonyXtasy: I may or may not have gone to USF for 2 years

I may or may not have a daughter at TWO schools on the list.

/I totally do

Why didn't she just find one school that has everything she wants?


She's taking the Sarah Palin approach?
 
2012-08-20 07:30:13 PM
FSU is a mixed bag. You can always try to get a degree in humanities or music, but if you want to study and learn something you should try the history, poli sci, and physics departments. You can either have an easy degree or a hard one. It's really up to you.
 
2012-08-20 07:44:29 PM
They used student-to-faculty ratio as an indicator of rigorousness, and a low student-to-faculty ratio was an indicator that the university was MORE rigorous?

I think they did that backwards. A personal relationship with a professor makes everything easy peasy lemon squeezy.
 
2012-08-20 07:47:01 PM
"Smaller class size and greater professor oversight are proxies for tougher classes"

I would find a big class with a negligent prof tougher. But that's just me.
 
2012-08-20 07:54:27 PM
UCF has some good science and engineering research programs.
 
2012-08-20 07:59:25 PM
No WVU? That daycare has a 98% acceptance rate.
 
2012-08-20 08:00:43 PM

nickerj1: They used student-to-faculty ratio as an indicator of rigorousness, and a low student-to-faculty ratio was an indicator that the university was MORE rigorous?

I think they did that backwards. A personal relationship with a professor makes everything easy peasy lemon squeezy.


Not to mention jaily, sometimes. :)
 
2012-08-20 08:00:50 PM
Florida has a 21 shotgun salute at there "gradiation saramony after handin' out da deplomuhs."
 
2012-08-20 08:03:30 PM

martid4: there

 
2012-08-20 08:03:43 PM
To be fair, this list only includes four-year universities that don't admit everyone who applies. The high scorers have a mismatch between highly qualified students and not-so-rigorous academics. (And their method of defining "not-so-rigorous" seems dubious to me.)

I wouldn't have expected Cal Poly San Luis Obispo to be on the list, but it makes sense by the criteria they defined. The students are qualified--it's one of the most competitive schools in the Cal State system to get into. But class sizes tend to be large, and even though its undergraduate engineering programs are highly regarded, as a Cal State campus it's second tier to the University of California schools.

That said, it's not fair to call it "not rigorous" compared to the thousands of colleges and universities who will admit anyone with a pulse.
 
2012-08-20 08:04:45 PM
I have a friend attending the UCF nursing school, and she has assured me it is anything but "least rigorous".
 
2012-08-20 08:06:00 PM

Sm3agol85: I have a friend attending the UCF nursing school, and she has assured me it is anything but "least rigorous".


nursing school is not undergrad
 
2012-08-20 08:08:45 PM
Oh sure, NOW you tell me.
 
2012-08-20 08:11:17 PM

nickerj1: They used student-to-faculty ratio as an indicator of rigorousness, and a low student-to-faculty ratio was an indicator that the university was MORE rigorous?

I think they did that backwards. A personal relationship with a professor makes everything easy peasy lemon squeezy.


My experience confirms that they used the right approach, and I think Mrs. Gough and Gough II will support me in this. All three of us have had experience at schools with low student/faculty ratios and those with high ones. If nothing else, there was the difference between essay exams and those that were multiple choice.
 
2012-08-20 08:11:29 PM

BigJake: Sm3agol85: I have a friend attending the UCF nursing school, and she has assured me it is anything but "least rigorous".

nursing school is not undergrad


There are many undergrad nursing programs
 
2012-08-20 08:14:59 PM
UW-Madison, really? Being an undergrad there was tougher than grad school. And of the 13 UW campuses they had to pick Madtown?

I suspect some fishy math.
 
2012-08-20 08:15:36 PM
UNC-CH has always had cool jock courses, even back in the 70's when I was there. My personal favorite was Geology 10 (Rocks for jocks). Good times, good times.
 
2012-08-20 08:17:12 PM
Oddly, no proprietary colleges made the cut. I find that, disingenuous.

Perhaps USN+WR doesn't think that they're real colleges. And they'd be right.

Don't care if you've been to one and got out with an education or not.
 
2012-08-20 08:18:38 PM
USF accepts 33% of applicants? This is the same school where they caught the dean of admissions just rubber stamping every applicant to get more cash for the school? Did they suddenly become a serious school in the last ten years?
 
2012-08-20 08:29:42 PM

assjuice: No WVU? That daycare has a 98% acceptance rate.


I can tell you know jack and shiat. WVU fans may get wild on occasion, but the university is a top notch school.
For example, a lot of the research on chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) is being done at the WVU Brain Injury Research Institute.
I was also glad but not surprised that NO schools from West Virginia were on the list above.
 
2012-08-20 08:33:56 PM

neurothing: There are many undergrad nursing programs


As a major? And not at a tech school? If you say so
 
2012-08-20 08:36:24 PM
As someone who will admit to working for UCF for the past 15 years almost, I will say that most schools laugh at these things. First, note that this is the ranking of the top 200 most selective schools. That does not mean UCF is the least rigorous out of all schools, just out of the top 200.

Second, I was one of the people who used to provide data to places like newsweek and princeton review and whatnot. I would pull the numbers, then the administrators would sit around a table and 'massage' the numbers as they said it. From speaking to people at other schools, I can say with certainty that every school does the same massaging. Some schools are just willing to lie a bit more than others.

Third, the standards used to come up with this are a bit ridiculous. As a school with 60,000 who has seen our budget cut by over $150 million in the past 3 years of course some of our classes are a bit big (a couple of online classes have over 1000 students). When it comes to upper level courses that really count towards your degree I can guarantee that the classes are much smaller and are in fact closer to 20-30 students per class.

With that said, I'm pretty sure most students don't care how rigorous the school is, and in fact would prefer the least rigorous schools. We have a population of about 60% female and are usually fairly high up in the rankings of hottest schools. Students want to come here, there's a reason we get 15-20k applicants each year.
 
2012-08-20 08:37:04 PM
I'v earned degrees from three of those schools.
 
2012-08-20 08:37:47 PM

BigJake: neurothing: There are many undergrad nursing programs

As a major? And not at a tech school? If you say so


Actually a BSN is quite common and is becoming required at a lot of hospitals. The 2 year degrees that are received at tech schools aren't enough for most places now.
 
2012-08-20 08:38:07 PM
Some lazy Google image searching going on for this story...I'm pretty sure University of Maryland, Baltimore County and University of Maryland, Baltimore are two separate universities...
 
2012-08-20 08:41:43 PM

skink: SymphonyXtasy: I may or may not have gone to USF for 2 years

I may or may not have a daughter at TWO schools on the list.

/I totally do


What I didn't say is that I'm now at another school on the list.
 
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