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(RealClearPolitics)   Reporter, "President Obama are you comfortable with your campaign calling Mr. Romney a felon?" Barack, "No one called him a felon." Thankfully, no one recorded his campaign saying that   (realclearpolitics.com) divider line 268
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2012-08-21 12:36:25 AM  

RyogaM: MyRandomName: Calling your opponent a felon by insinuating they committed a felony and then saying government agencies should investigate is the shiat pu tin and chavez do

You...were alive in the 1990s, right? Whitewater? Travelgate? Vince Foster's "murder?" "Watermelon Man" Dan Burton? MENA airport? Cattle future? The Clinton murder list? Ring a bell?

Christ, you never respond anyway. I'm pissing in the wind.


Except all those things were made up. Romney has put himself in the position where he is either (a)lying to the public about not being in charge of Bain during a specific time-period, or (b) he was lying to the to the FEC by because he said he was in charge of Bain during that same time-period. This is an either/or situation without any option for c) None of the above, as it was for Vince Foster, et. al.

Pointing out that this is a binary situation is not the same thing as calling Romney a felon. It's pointing out that either Romney is lying to America about his tenure at Bain during massive off-shoring OR he is lied to the FEC. While it s true that the latter option WOULD make Romney a felon, the most likely thing is that Romney is lying to America because he doesn't want to take responsibility for something that is deeply unpopular with the American people. It also undercuts his message that he is all about creating job. Essentially, what his opposition is doing is saying that it is highly unlikely that Romney is a felon.
 
2012-08-21 12:50:45 AM  

Nadie_AZ: Looks like the campaign needs to bring him up to speed on their little side mission.


The campaign said that Romney either lied to the SEC, or lied to the american people. One of those is a felony. It's funny how given those two possibilities, Romney objects to being called a possible felon, but said nothing about being called a possible liar.
 
2012-08-21 12:53:12 AM  
Romney killed some woman
Romney believes people of color are subhuman
Romney lied on his taxes (felony)
Romney lied about Bain (felony)
Romney is going to put some people back in chains
Romney is hated by Europeans
Romney is planning on killing old people

"Either Mitt Romney, through his own words and his own signature, was misrepresenting his position at Bain to the SEC, which is a felony," Cutter said on a conference call with reporters back then.
 
2012-08-21 01:03:51 AM  
Dunno if this's been covered or not, but there's also the allegations regarding the fundraising Romney did while overseas - in particular, while in Israel.

Big No-No. Our election, not yours. Cannot has.
 
2012-08-21 01:06:41 AM  

Coco LaFemme: consider this: kevinfra: Popular vote
Bush: 50,456,002
Gore: 50,999,897

I guess you missed the part where I said that result was bullshiat.

Hey sparklefark, shut the hell up already. The US is not getting rid of the Electoral College, no matter how outdated, stupid, messed up, farked up, or absurd you think it is. It exists for a reason, and that's because the Founding Fathers knew that direct election, such as you are proposing, can lead to tyranny of the majority.....which they wanted to avoid. Ever read about ancient Greece and their governmental issues? Specifically in the Senate? If you did, as they did, you'd understand why the EC exists, and what its existence means to prevent. All the popular vote does is accurately demonstrate how farking pathetic our voter turnout is, and making it the sole arbiter for who is elected President every 4 years won't do jack or shiat to change that.

So please......quit while you're ahead.

 

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2012-08-21 01:06:49 AM  

Rockstone: Killed Osama Bin Laden? Wasn't him


Bullshiat. It wasn't only him, and no one ever claimed it was, but without him, Osama is still alive. He went against most of his advisers and chose an extremely risky course of action.

If Osama weren't there and/or a SEAL had been injured or killed, the very people saying "Obama didn't do anything" would have held Obama personally and solely responsible, and Obama could have kissed a second term goodbye right then and there.

It was a risky, ballsy decision and he deserves credit for it.

Many of your other points are nearly as stupid, but this bullshiat talking point needs to stop
 
2012-08-21 01:19:42 AM  
I suppose even politicians are learning that SuperPACs are a bad idea.
 
2012-08-21 01:20:05 AM  
If lying was a crime, Romney would be doing time.
 
2012-08-21 01:31:29 AM  

consider this: Lando Lincoln: a supposedly unfair system

What part of the loser winning don't you farking understand?


I think most people see the loser here.

Thanks for threadshiatting.
 
2012-08-21 02:25:17 AM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: I said it before, if I were Obama's campaign chief, I would be out there every day. "Nobody is calling Mitt Romney a felon. We absolutely reject any insinuation that Mitt Romney is a felon. Why, Mitt Romney himself says that Mitt Romney is not a felon, and if you can't trust Romney, you can you trust? No, Mitt Romney is definitely not a felon. Felon."


"There's no way we can claim Romney's a felon. Certainly, we have have no proof that Romney had shot a person, or had ever raped a woman, or even perhaps falsely signed documents claiming something he verbally said otherwise. Those would be completely unsubstantiated claims. They're not even rumors, as no one is saying them or spreading them. Well, except the possibility of the documents thing. Or that he may have claimed residence in one location, but lived in another. Or that he leveraged tax loopholes -- which are completely legal, by the way -- for his own benefit. No, we make no claims that Romney is a felon. Not possible. At least not without a clear display of his tax returns. For the past 12 years."
 
2012-08-21 03:36:20 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: Rockstone: Killed Osama Bin Laden? Wasn't him

Bullshiat. It wasn't only him, and no one ever claimed it was, but without him, Osama is still alive. He went against most of his advisers and chose an extremely risky course of action.

If Osama weren't there and/or a SEAL had been injured or killed, the very people saying "Obama didn't do anything" would have held Obama personally and solely responsible, and Obama could have kissed a second term goodbye right then and there.

It was a risky, ballsy decision and he deserves credit for it.

Many of your other points are nearly as stupid, but this bullshiat talking point needs to stop


It really is amusing how the right took "Obama gave the word for the operation to proceed", twisted it into "Obama did everything", and then screamed about how "Everyone is saying 'Obama did it all by himself'!".

Their capacity for twisting, manipulating, and outright lying knows no bounds.
 
2012-08-21 04:18:51 AM  

unit63: Coco LaFemme: consider this: kevinfra: Popular vote
Bush: 50,456,002
Gore: 50,999,897

I guess you missed the part where I said that result was bullshiat.

Hey sparklefark, shut the hell up already. The US is not getting rid of the Electoral College, no matter how outdated, stupid, messed up, farked up, or absurd you think it is. It exists for a reason, and that's because the Founding Fathers knew that direct election, such as you are proposing, can lead to tyranny of the majority.....which they wanted to avoid. Ever read about ancient Greece and their governmental issues? Specifically in the Senate? If you did, as they did, you'd understand why the EC exists, and what its existence means to prevent. All the popular vote does is accurately demonstrate how farking pathetic our voter turnout is, and making it the sole arbiter for who is elected President every 4 years won't do jack or shiat to change that.

So please......quit while you're ahead. 

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Ancient Greece is a bad example for two reasons: One, not everyone could vote, since the electorate was restricted to adult male citizens; and two, among those who COULD vote, it was not optional, it was required. Failure to vote, in Ancient Greece, could result in banishment, deprivation of rights or even death, depending on who was ruling. Therefore, they usually had a 100% turnout among eligible voters.

In our system, everyone can vote if they feel like it, or if they care enough to try; so we have a miserable 50% turnout at best, even though more people are actually enfranchised to do so.
 
2012-08-21 05:27:09 AM  

Coco LaFemme: State legislatures are responsible for how electoral votes are divvied up; either winner-takes-all, electoral districts, Congressional District, or proportional. Splitting the votes, as you propose, would make it almost impossible for a candidate to achieve the requisite 270 electoral votes to win. California has 55 electoral votes; if Obama gets 66% of the popular vote, and California changed the method of apportioning electors and went to proportional....he'd get 2/3 of 55. What is 2/3 of 55? Not an even number, I'll help you out. So then how to do parse a fraction of an elector? That's one good reason to keep winner-takes-all. Keeps all the numbers nice and round, with no decimals.


So we should stay with an archaic way of determining who should be president because you don't wanna round?

...and the dumbing down of America continues...
 
2012-08-21 05:28:38 AM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: consider this: Rwa2play: So IOW you would've wanted the other option? Weeks and weeks of not just verifying the votes but legal challenges galore as to who's vote counts?

What happened in Florida happened with the electoral college in place. What in the hell are you even trying to say? Whether or not the electoral college exists, votes still need to be accurately counted.

Didn't they try to twice and finally gave up? Memory's hazy.


No, the Supreme Court told them to stop counting and give Florida's EVs to Bush.
 
2012-08-21 05:30:29 AM  

Coco LaFemme: There is a reason the "loser" won only four times in 235 years, and not 20 times or something.


With the popular vote, the "loser" would never win. Of course, the inherent problem with that is why we have the EC in the first place.
 
2012-08-21 06:53:44 AM  
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2012-08-21 08:19:51 AM  
But in recent weeks, your campaign has suggested repeatedly - without proof - that Mr. Romney might be hiding something in his tax returns.

Ann Romney said releasing his returns would give the Dems "Ammo".

Of course Mitt's hiding something. Probably several somethings. The question isn't "If?" it's "What?".

They have suggested that Mr. Romney might be a felon for the way that he handed over power of Bain Capital.

Romney lied about when he stopped being in charge over there and then changed his story later when it was politically convenient for him. Nobody in the campaign has outright called him a felon per se just a really bad and inveterate liar who can't be trusted to do anything other than lie.

And your campaign and the White House have declined to condemn an ad by one of your top supporters that links Mr. Romney to a woman's death from cancer.

Why should they? Romney's camp is saying that Obama is saying in those ads "OMG, Romney totally killed this guy's wife!11!" when in fact, it was more a more indirect but still undeniable chain of events. False absolutist arguments are about as common with the GOP as false equivalence BS is in the corporate media.

Are you comfortable with the tone being set with your campaign?

I'm more comfortable with the tone of the Obama campaign than I am yours here, toots.
 
2012-08-21 05:48:12 PM  

quatchi: Ann Romney said releasing his returns would give the Dems "Ammo".

Of course Mitt's hiding something. Probably several somethings. The question isn't "If?" it's "What?".


I don't even get the "you claim--without proof--that Romney is hiding something in his tax returns."

Uh, yeah. He is hiding his f*cking tax returns! That's why we don't know what's in them!
 
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