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(Boston.com)   The most competitive Senate race in America is also the most civil   (boston.com) divider line 38
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2012-08-20 08:00:39 AM
Weird how that happens. Shame we can't have more of that nowadays
 
2012-08-20 08:05:45 AM
We could, if voters would quite whining about negativity on the one hand, and then rewarding those guilty by electing them on the other.
 
2012-08-20 08:06:48 AM

RassilonsExWife: We could, if voters would quite whining about negativity on the one hand, and then rewarding those guilty by electing them on the other.


or just outright ban third-party ads
 
2012-08-20 08:08:26 AM
Good.
That race seems to be what we need more of in this country.

I'd prefer Warren win, but Brown is what more Republicans should be and less and less of them are. Decent people who I disagree with instead of... well, most of the other ones.
 
2012-08-20 08:14:48 AM

somedude210: RassilonsExWife: We could, if voters would quite whining about negativity on the one hand, and then rewarding those guilty by electing them on the other.

or just outright ban third-party ads


And removing Fox News.

Hell, all 24/7 'news' channels should be removed from TV. They only make it worse.
 
2012-08-20 08:15:49 AM

delathi: I'd prefer Warren win, but Brown is what more Republicans should be and less and less of them are. Decent people who I disagree with instead of... well, most of the other ones.


I was a supporter of Brown last time around but I feel that Warren is the better candidate, mostly because she doesn't seem to be a politician at all (which may screw her over if she does win). Ideally, I would've preferred Brown and Warren being the two senators from MA instead of Brown/Warren and Kerry.

Political discourse is a necessary thing and Brown is someone who can help that on the GOP side, but Kerry is just a career politician and has lost his way.

/wish more Republicans were like other New England Republicans.
\\At least we're polite when we hate you :D
 
2012-08-20 08:19:02 AM
It's good to see something like this happening, but as far as Brown goes, I wonder if he'll be as civil should Warren end up polling much higher than he does. I have a nagging feeling that should that happen, that Brown would 'release the hounds' and start courting the 3rd party attack ads.

I've been pleasantly surprised before, so I hope that he doesn't. But time will tell the closer we get to Election Day.
 
2012-08-20 08:19:24 AM

NeverDrunk23: And removing Fox News.

Hell, all 24/7 'news' channels should be removed from TV. They only make it worse.


Very true. By being 24/7 news station, they end up having to create news and flip their shiat over nothing because of ratings. Get rid of them and politicians will stop pandering to the likes of MSNBC/CNN/Fox

\watch last night's episode of Newsroom. It had a nice thing on the debates and how CNN farked us over in the primary
 
2012-08-20 08:22:39 AM
OW, My Balls...
 
2012-08-20 08:23:29 AM
Brown and Warren have been unwilling to risk alienating voters with the kind of slash-and-burn ads routinely run by outside groups.

Aint corporate personhood and freedom of speech grand?
 
2012-08-20 08:26:51 AM
You mean, when two candidates refuse to mudsling at each other... they act civily...

Mind = Blown.

/Calls for Brown as RINO in 3, 2...
 
2012-08-20 08:28:23 AM

delathi: Good.
That race seems to be what we need more of in this country.

I'd prefer Warren win, but Brown is what more Republicans should be and less and less of them are. Decent people who I disagree with instead of... well, most of the other ones.


I know exactly what you mean. I wish I could elect Brown to be the Republican Senator from Kentucky.
 
2012-08-20 08:30:33 AM

Bedurndurn: delathi: Good.
That race seems to be what we need more of in this country.

I'd prefer Warren win, but Brown is what more Republicans should be and less and less of them are. Decent people who I disagree with instead of... well, most of the other ones.

I know exactly what you mean. I wish I could elect Brown to be the Republican Senator from Kentucky.


Brown is what Republicans from Michigan used to be.
 
2012-08-20 08:34:14 AM
When do the false flag attacks start? What is stopping a pro-Warren group from running an anti-Warren ad in order to cost Brown money? Granted, it would have to be a group that people don't know is actually pro-Warren, but in our new utopian age of super PACs, I wouldn't really think keeping that a secret would be an issue.

As an aside, in my example, if Brown then tells the fake anti-Warren group to stop, would he then be violating the campaign laws against coordinating with super PACs?
 
2012-08-20 08:41:00 AM

NeverDrunk23: And removing Fox News.

Hell, all 24/7 'news' channels should be removed from TV. They only make it worse.


Amen. Mindless mudslinging and recrimination only belongs in a deep, dark pit like the Politics tab.
 
2012-08-20 08:42:53 AM
I give it a week.
 
2012-08-20 08:45:30 AM

Gulper Eel: I give it a week.


you realize it's been like this since March-ish, right?
 
2012-08-20 08:45:35 AM
ORLY scott brown? didn't you spent two months trying to find a way to make her look like her entire career was an affirmative action con-job?
 
2012-08-20 08:47:20 AM

somedude210: you realize it's been like this since March-ish, right?


That is to say, I give it a week now that everybody's noticed how supposedly civil it is.
 
2012-08-20 08:49:42 AM

Summercat: You mean, when two candidates refuse to mudsling at each other... they act civily...

Mind = Blown.

/Calls for Brown as RINO in 3, 2...


Oh, they've been calling him a rino for a while now. He's COMPROMISED. The jerk.
 
2012-08-20 08:52:09 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Summercat: You mean, when two candidates refuse to mudsling at each other... they act civily...

Mind = Blown.

/Calls for Brown as RINO in 3, 2...

Oh, they've been calling him a rino for a while now. He's COMPROMISED. The jerk.


They called him that as soon as they figured out he wasn't really a teabagger.
 
2012-08-20 08:56:12 AM
MA resident here. I like both candidates but simply could never vote for Brown. The reason? One more republican toward handing the senate over to the rest of the lunatics like Paul. No thanks.
 
2012-08-20 09:04:24 AM

NeverDrunk23: Hell, all 24/7 'news' channels should be removed from TV


CNN was great until faux nuze and their nuzeblondes became an arm of the gop. Everything has been downhill since. It is nice to see a civil race. Shame they both can't be elected.
 
2012-08-20 09:05:38 AM
When moving to New England I strongly considered living in MA simply so I could vote for Elizabeth Warren. That said, I gained a little respect for Scott Brown for taking that pledge and sticking to it (so far).

/a *little*...he's still firmly in the pocket of Wall Street, so I definitely want to see him ousted.
 
2012-08-20 09:18:00 AM

Waxing_Chewbacca: MA resident here. I like both candidates but simply could never vote for Brown. The reason? One more republican toward handing the senate over to the rest of the lunatics like Paul. No thanks.


Same here... Brown's not the most offensive Republican out there these days, but he is part of party, whose platform I detest at just about every level.

In another time, I may have indeed voted for Brown, but, honestly, it will be a cold day in hell before I vote for another Republican. The party has gone off the deep end and they've made it perfectly clear, folks like myself and my family in the lower middle class mean nothing to them.

I see no reason to reward their nonsense with a vote.
 
2012-08-20 09:46:42 AM
"This effort to sign up welfare recipients is being aided by Elizabeth Warren's daughter," Brown said. "And it's clearly designed to benefit her mother's political campaign."
 
2012-08-20 09:47:09 AM

Gulper Eel: somedude210: you realize it's been like this since March-ish, right?

That is to say, I give it a week now that everybody's noticed how supposedly civil it is.


Warren has edged to a small but consistent lead in recent weeks. It's only a matter of time till the RSC starts freaking out and turns on the firehose again. Now that MO just started looking a lot less like a slam dunk, MA is turning into a "must-win" for the GOP. Unless things change you can bet they are going to bring out the heavy artillery sooner or later. They can't help themselves.
 
2012-08-20 09:52:38 AM

Waxing_Chewbacca: MA resident here. I like both candidates but simply could never vote for Brown. The reason? One more republican toward handing the senate over to the rest of the lunatics like Paul. No thanks.


Seconded. I grew up in Utah, and Scott Brown's truck would be called a commie there. We could have done a lot worse as far as Republican Senators go. That said, he did co-sponsor the Blunt amendment, which scored absolutely no points with me. Also, because of the way the senate is set up, the party with a majority holds most of the power. A vote for Scott Brown only helps creepers like McConnell and Kyl make the Senate even more dysfunctional than it already is.
 
2012-08-20 09:55:10 AM

NowhereMon: Gulper Eel: somedude210: you realize it's been like this since March-ish, right?

That is to say, I give it a week now that everybody's noticed how supposedly civil it is.

Warren has edged to a small but consistent lead in recent weeks. It's only a matter of time till the RSC starts freaking out and turns on the firehose again. Now that MO just started looking a lot less like a slam dunk, MA is turning into a "must-win" for the GOP. Unless things change you can bet they are going to bring out the heavy artillery sooner or later. They can't help themselves.


Although, if Brown can hold them off from doing it, even in a losing race, he will be able to position himself as the 'honorable' guy for his next run at whatever he runs for. If he caves and loses, he's done.
 
2012-08-20 10:34:40 AM
It makes sense when you realize that they're both liberals.
 
2012-08-20 10:37:17 AM
Massachusetts, the bastion of sane political discourse and activity!??

*ducks for cover*
 
2012-08-20 10:38:01 AM

Summercat: /Calls for Brown as RINO in 3, 2...


In TFA, the lady standing behind Brown is none other than our beloved Sen. Collins (R-ME).

So. Yeah. RINO!1!
 
2012-08-20 10:38:36 AM
...NTTAWTT 
 
2012-08-20 10:55:53 AM

Jackson Herring: "This effort to sign up welfare recipients is being aided by Elizabeth Warren's daughter," Brown said. "And it's clearly designed to benefit her mother's political campaign."


Ok, but that's a lot better than "Women can't get pregnant from rape".
 
2012-08-20 11:21:12 AM
Welp, they've got my vote.
 
2012-08-20 11:56:11 AM

keylock71: Same here... Brown's not the most offensive Republican out there these days, but he is part of party, whose platform I detest at just about every level.

In another time, I may have indeed voted for Brown, but, honestly, it will be a cold day in hell before I vote for another Republican. The party has gone off the deep end and they've made it perfectly clear, folks like myself and my family in the lower middle class mean nothing to them.

I see no reason to reward their nonsense with a vote.


And that's what it goes down to. While Scott Brown is a decent person, is there any doubt that on the vast majority of major, important votes that he won't be voting straight party line like he's ordered?
 
2012-08-20 01:06:10 PM

Satanic_Hamster: keylock71: Same here... Brown's not the most offensive Republican out there these days, but he is part of party, whose platform I detest at just about every level.

In another time, I may have indeed voted for Brown, but, honestly, it will be a cold day in hell before I vote for another Republican. The party has gone off the deep end and they've made it perfectly clear, folks like myself and my family in the lower middle class mean nothing to them.

I see no reason to reward their nonsense with a vote.

And that's what it goes down to. While Scott Brown is a decent person, is there any doubt that on the vast majority of major, important votes that he won't be voting straight party line like he's ordered?


Yes. At least from me. I'll probably vote for him again because I think he has some integrity, and for some reason I like being represented by both a Republican and a Democrat. Like mentioned above, though, i wish the Democrat could be Elizabeth Warren or someone else less like a career politician.
 
2012-08-20 05:09:48 PM

Mose: for some reason I like being represented by both a Republican and a Democrat.


I used to hold a similar opinion ... balance each other's worst excesses, etc., but not any more. When (if ever) the hyper-conservative wing of the Republican party returns to the fringe, and the party is dominated by people who are at least sane and intelligent, then we can talk about compromise solutions. Until then, no votes for them at any level.
 
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